Joker Kills Batman, His Worst Nightmare

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[@comicstorian]

Bros and Broettes. Knight Terrors has been so much fun, what are you guys thinking of these stories so far? Next week we have Green Lantern and the Flash!

[@kingshadow8782]

Okay!

[@kingshadow8782]

😅

[@dragonlorddracodenblaze]

They're good !

[@haroldnecmann7040]

Where's the 👊 ⚟

[@MR._LEON]

Where are the link's for the other joker stories? You lied saying you'd have the link's here.

[@imthe_catman]

I love how anytime Batman is supposedly "dead" or the Joker wins, he just has no clue what else to do with his life and just gets a normal job.

[@InkBlotts]

Dude was at least happy at the DMV once

[@joshuac2652]

If I had a nickel for everytime the joker got a normal job when Batman died 😭

[@robsnook4512]

You can freely torture people at the dmv

[@Artez-c4r]

@@InkBlottsdude joker in the D.M.V makes sense

[@kriegermaria9923]

He actually dont want to kill him

[@commonviewer2488]

There are three fears in Joker's nightmare: 1. Winning Effortlessly 2. Mundanity 3. Having none of it matter anyways.

[@HamboneyGamezYT]

I respectfully disagree to your third point ...because he Knows None of it matters anyways ...I think the fear is He had no purpose anymore... It matters so much that he can't even be himself without his other half...

[@Spicystachegamer]

You forgot being forgotten

[@emmanuelmakulika9730]

You forget the IRS

[@torquetheprisoner]

and sloped metal roofs

[@kennyobi9871]

But Jokers whole ideology is that nothing actually matters. I get what you mean though. Joker believes that nothing actually matters but he doesn’t want people to agree with him. If no one cares then the joke isn’t funny anymore. The joke is that people do care even though they shouldn’t.

[@vgfreak4life]

I think one of the worst aspects of this was Joker didn't even kill Batman. It was a freak accident that that caused Batman to die, NOT Joker. This all powerful superhero that Joker's been feuding with for years, died by slipping on the floor. This is the equivalent of reaching the finals to a competition you been prepping for years, only for the other guy to forfeit because he got hurt prior to the finals and you won. How would you feel after that?

[@paradoxcr522]

Why do you think it was his nightmare?

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

The Joker preaches chaos and meaninglessness, but deep down the concept terrifies him. The idea that the hero or villain could just trip and die with zero fanfare would be any entertainer's worst nightmare.

[@douglasacero1710]

Seeing that it was Joker's nightmare I'm surprised he didn't slip on a banana peel.

[@moonblaze2713]

​@@douglasacero1710That would've held a layer of humor. The lack of any meaning or value to it is the nightmare.

[@bragnir]

Worse, still- even afterwards, his actions and words had 0 consequences. Nothing he did mattered at all. Joker's an attention seeker who thrives in being the source of chaos to eeryone's lives. Having everyone around him laughing it off and no repercussions come out of his actions- to the point where there's even another Batman who doesn't care about him, terrifies Joker. At the end of the day, in this nightmare, HE lost Batman... But, everyone else, did not.

[@HellishSpoon]

I'd honestly watch a show where joker is just a desk guy and he goes about his weird yet mundane life.

[@TrexTamer]

the office but the Joker is a mainstay

[@MidnightIsolde]

​@@TrexTameromg. I'd read / watch that

[@CSharpRenan]

You just described his own movie, except he is an artist and not a desk jockey.

[@SupaSillyThyme]

I mean... kinda season 3 of that harley quinn show?

[@TetsuShima]

Joker while suffering from Batman's absence: "A bad joke... Everything is a bad joke..." *Shoots himself in the head*

[@zanyraccoon6361]

I believe a part of it is the fact that everyone just treats him like a joke. Sure he might claim to want that but in reality he wants to shock people and have an impact on the world. But at the office everyone just laughs no matter what he does. There is after all a reason why the Joker never became a stand up comedian instead of a super villain.

[@MrKhho100]

The fact Joker was bluffing the whole time about wanting to ruin Batman lmao

[@char1194]

There's really nothing else the joker COULD be afraid of

[@localvega688]

The Batman who Laughs: Am I a joke to you?

[@Darkdragonhero1]

Have u not hear of the IRS?

[@kevinbaumhoer7359]

IRS of course they get you for Tax evasion if i fight Batman i can get a Sentence for Insanity but not the IRS they even got Capone

[@HamboneyGamezYT]

Marriage and the IRS

[@HamboneyGamezYT]

​@@Darkdragonhero1you beat me by only 12 hours and 58 mins... Dang so close too...

[@darthinkarnatus7264]

Okay… I’ve found my all time favorite comic… I can’t believe nobody has ever thought to make this before… THIS IS PURE GOLD!!! 🤣🤣😂

[@jameswhite8345]

I think if joker ever did kill batman out of boardem would take up the mantal himself perhaps even split personality so he could keep the dynamic going

[@handlebarsmustache]

Me reading the title: finally DC has decided to start cooking The premise reminds me of a Joker centric HQ the animated series episode.

[@jeremiahbristow7609]

I would have thought that Joker's worst nightmare would have been NOT being a fictional character? What, with all of the times that he has acknowledged the readers. This would make it so that all of his actions had consequences that were confined to a single plane of existence; and that it was his choice. It would have forced him to reflect on his actions without there being a convenient safety net of "gotta give my fans what they want"

[@KrazyArrows]

Yea joker can’t live without Batman. Look how they teamed up in batmetal. Does Batman reference to joker as “darling” when he going to his level?

[@spinnerleex]

Joker's worst nightmare: Having a job.

[@mittensfastpaw]

Well to be fair working in corporate America is extremely soul crushing. Not surprising he hated life even more.

[@takeshikujo2909]

“I’m like a dog who chases a car. If I catch it I wouldn’t know what to do with it.” “Without Batman… crime has no punchline.” 😔

[@blackflyingfox3365]

Joker doesn't want to kill Batman because the Joker is a sadist like Thanos. The Joker wants to inflict as much pain and misery onto Batman and others as possible. You can't inflict pain onto a dead person. He once said he would like to put an exploding whoopie cushion in the Batmobile. But not with a big enough blast to kill Batman but just enough to inflict damage and an incredible amount of pain. The Joker is angry and bitter that he was left disfigured by the chemicals he fell into and he blames Batman. So he made it his mission to inflict as much pain and misery as he can to him. But without killing him because if he kills him he can't hurt him anymore. This also explains why in the 1989 Batman movie he liked destroying artwork and spraying women in the face with acid. He wants to destroy what is beautiful since he has been made ugly.

[@PartialKredit]

I like that part of his greatest fear is Batman dying mundanely in an accident

[@drakennabusaki8878]

i love youre vids not just to watch but sometimes if i cant sleep i watch ur vids and i pass out like its nothing thank you for that

[@adrianscorch]

I like how zoomed pulls a Superman, making himself unrecognizable to the public by wearing glasses.

[@sokagofferenginar8669]

Joker looked like he wanted yo kill himself a few times

[@lonejohnwolf]

Yeah Joker definitely didn't want to actually win, he just wanted to have fun and be able to go all out against someone, and Batman was that someone who could actually stand against Joker and make it fun for him.

[@Poorleeno]

"YES THERES NOTHING STOPPING!"

[@sansgrafnie2593]

Armstrong???? Nanomachines son Mr. Goodman??? Better call saul

[@shaggysnax01]

You're afraid of being ashes. You're afraid of being forgotten. And you *will* be forgotten, Joker. Because of me. Oh, and you're also afraid of the IRS, and having no one to play your sick game with. So, there's that.

[@michaellilov9768]

His joker voice sounds like Vegeta 😆 I love it though

[@Batman-lg2zj]

I’m glad this isn’t canon

[@nehemiahpouncey3607]

Batman an joker is pretty much Superman to Lex luthor.

[@kap1618]

Bruce should just fake Batman's death, just to troll the Joker. Have a fake funeral and fake unmasking just to make it convincing.

[@justincholos.balisang6884]

I just realized that a character from Jagaan called Chiharu is similar to Joker. They both live in chaos and brings chaos because a life without it is uninteresting/mundane. A chaotic world is Chiharu's desire, a chaotic world is where Joker finds meaning in living. Without chaos, without Batman, Joker is nothing.

[@geckoo9190]

You can't sit around waiting all day for a man in a bat custom to assault you. That phrase sounds so weird. I can see how the joker would be bored by a 9 to 5, maybe the nightmare should be that he can't quit because he has to pay the bills.

[@ZatchZXman]

I've watched this 5 times already, someone stop me.

[@nehemiahpouncey3607]

Like these what if stories.

[@xlro8f853]

Joker took the Blue pill before the story.

[@romansanchez2277]

Here’s my take on Batman‘s death so after Batman‘s death, all the villains realize they got nothing really better to do so most of them stop being villains and go to normal every day things but some continue joker realizes that now he has no one to torment and reality slaps hard on him because now he actually has to go get a job so he goes to an accounting firm and continues walking dead for his life but then he decided to try comedy and realizes his comedy gold so he continues being a comedian

[@w4lkurr214]

Finally you’re ahead of the game!

[@apenas_tarso]

I love how joker's fake name is just Joker with han and ais JOhan KaisER

[@sweetchoom]

Bro becomes Patrick Bateman

[@big4headedGangster]

Idk why I’m cutting my hair with a knife. My back hurts I’m laying down too much

[@whuspr]

Reminds me of American Psycho

[@studburna]

Neil Gaiman, pls work with this night terror angle for Sand Man, :)

[@kaschafe22]

The name of Insomnia is John Dee, which is definitely a Sandman reference in its self.

[@comicfan1324]

I like how Bruce Wayne is still alive in jokers nightmare because (whether or not joker knows who Batman is, sometimes he does. Sometimes he doesn’t) It makes sense that joker would not see Bruce Wayne as Batman. In Joker’s eyes, Batman is just Batman.

[@nicholasaugello2534]

Even though Joker actually is aware of who batman really is he literally See's him as batman regardless.

[@HamboneyGamezYT]

I JUST caught that cause I was wondering what was going on with this.. like how is Bruce separate from batman but now it makes sense... My only question is: diarnt the joker KNOW batman's id... Then why the two different ppl?!?!

[@foodybreezy4964]

I mean Batman himself said that BW identity is a cover to his real identity, the Batman. And that’s fact, he spent more time as Batman than BW

[@AstraFulminous]

@@foodybreezy4964 Same. Although with Zur en Ar around maybe its time for Bruce to accept that at heart he indeed at his core not Batman. But Bruce Wayne.

[@jestersraven408]

I think this version knows he just sees them as different people i mean he was even rooting for Bruce on the news

[@gaidencastro9706]

I hope Joker doesn't think of moving on to another hero.

[@Moh4a4d]

Joker's nightmare isn't just that Batman is gone. It's that no one is resisting against him. Joker is an agent of chaos. He wants to fight. He wants to have consequences. But when his plans just succeed, he hates it. The boat scene is a big one. He got uranium so easily that he just got bored. Hell, he said it in the start of the comic. It's not about winning.

[@thewolfenknight37]

When he was jumped by the goons he was excited for the fight. But once his former hinchman showed up and ended it before the fight could start he god bored again

[@vullord666]

So he’s literally just an attention seeking brat? So all Gotham PD and the batfam needs to do is ignore him and he’ll literally just go away?

[@alexmansfield3268]

​@@vullord666honestly yeah, sometimes that's all it takes

[@mathiasmies7341]

​​@@alexmansfield3268I mean sure I guess if he's like threatening destroy his Legos? But his schemes are like planting bombs. How do you just ignore that? "Oh don't worry let him kill a few thousand people, he'll get bored when he realizes we're not coming after him." Obviously this is why it's a comic book flaw, but yeah, if you have the resources to plant bombs at highly secure and trafficked areas, there's no way you can just "be ignored" if you're threatening lives.

[@PhirePhlame]

And then the Batman and Bruce still being in the news (many versions of Joker know Bruce is Batman but refuse to acknowledge it) is itself another fear of his: that, no matter what he does, even if it's as earth-shattering as killing Batman, that dreaded sense of normalcy is still just around the corner. The mark he's left didn't last, so to him it may as well have never been left at all. Thus, if that's how the aftermath of such a thing turns out, then from his perspective it calls into question what the point even is. I guess, in that sense, the Batman he fought in this nightmare was a metaphor for his whole sense of purpose.

[@legogoka-boomstudio1838]

I think his real nightmare isn’t “a life without Batman” but the idea that no matter what he does or doesn’t do, the world will change a little, revert, and continue to spin with him left to the dust.

[@legogoka-boomstudio1838]

I know that is essentially what comicstorian said with “normalcy” but it’s still good to more definitely state based off other comments

[@kingjulian.r5748]

​@@legogoka-boomstudio1838I like your definition more because it explains why he doesn't care that "Batman" is out fighting crime and Joker just doesn't care

[@Batt-man]

That gives joker a lot more depth wow

[@joit905]

Yeah, I also think that this is his fear. Though Batman is important imo Joker can live and be Joker without him, Batman is just the best entertainment Joker has found...and maybe not getting killed or being somehow neutralized for good, while leaving him alive

[@ziephel-6780]

Becoming irrelevant as the shorter answer.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

"Without Batman, there is no Joker." *- Mark Hamill*

[@SEXlSDEATH]

joker Is My Cumdump

[@StraightToThePointz]

“Without Batman, crime has no punchline.”

[@randomhank]

Oof, the feels

[@zeroattentiongaming820]

Gotta wonder, if we had lost Mark first would Kevin have hung up the cowl as well?

[@Dylanisa_BasketCase]

​@@zeroattentiongaming820maybe.......

[@Akaritomi]

Batman kills Joker: the world suffers for it one way or another. Joker kills Batman: he suffers capitalism.

[@Stratobloxxer]

Hehe

[@DragonTamer31K]

What's worse than death? Corporate Capitalism

[@billysmith4927]

I think you missed a big point. The story is about how he lost not won. Nothing he did caused Batman to die. It was the most anticlimactic death and THAT was his worst nightmare

[@dfredankey]

Not only was it an anticlimactic death but it became his worst nightmare as well

[@Davidscomix]

I’m pretty sure it was because Batman died and he had nothing to do

[@2-Way_Intersection]

@@Davidscomix the lack of literacy here...

[@shawnwilcowski]

@@2-Way_Intersectionunfortunately (as indicated by the amount of his likes to yours) literacy isn’t up anyones radar on yt especially

[@daniell5740]

Obviously you missed it lol

[@joshuaingobo1559]

I like that Joker’s nightmare is him living life without Batman, such as him working at the office and living the sane life.

[@legoferrari14]

You see a little bit of this in the "Death in the Family" choose-your-own-adventure animated movie, too.

[@yaqinmalul6467]

IRONIC🤣

[@edge1247]

Society

[@TwoFourFeedsLordyThaBlud]

Microwaving your bosses head. Totally sane 😂

[@joeb7703]

What a horrid nightmare

[@TetsuShima]

"Without Batman, crime has no punchline"

[@AstraFulminous]

What? What are you talking about Joker she's right there. Goth Gal and all.

[@johnsantos507]

Without Batman, Joker lose.

[@alejandrolozano4919]

No Bat = No Joke

[@smaug6015]

Batman slipping face first and just dying actually got me laughing

[@wilsonweiseng6485]

Joker don't find it funny, He's been doing this for forever and Batman always finds a way to not get killed by his hijinks, now you're telling him he died by gravity? This is one joke the Joker doesn't like

[@ttracs]

Got hit with that injustice nightwing type death.

[@twistedyogert]

Would that actually kill someone?

[@Domschataccount]

@@twistedyogert i think if the nose gets pushed inward towards the brains or something

[@wilsonweiseng6485]

@@twistedyogert not really, but if you proceed to fall off a building and struck by lightning, yes

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

"You. Complete. Me." *- Heath Ledger's Joker*

[@TheSuperboy_Prime]

"You're Garbage, you Kill for money". - *Christian Bale Batman*

[@Nobody-hw6jv]

"I am like a dog chasing cars, I don't even know what I would do if I caught them" I guess we know now.

[@Dylanisa_BasketCase]

​@@TheSuperboy_PrimeDon't Talk Like You're One of Them. You're not. . To them, you're just a freak, like me! They need you right now, but when they don't, they'll cast you out, like a leper! You see, their morals, their code, it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these... these civilized people, they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve. -The Joker

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

"Batsy you complete me." - Joker (Batman vs Dracula) "Let's put a smile on that face." - Joker (The Batman 2004) Bro predated Ledger, at least with the first quote.

[@victor-fowler]

"Why do I need money when gasoline and matches are so cheap?" Heath Ledger's The Joker.

[@potatoboy6094]

is it just me or does he kind of resemble patrick bateman in this nightmare? the way he doesnt even try to hide or decieve other's with his intentions, but they just dont take him seriously, the way he seems to just get away with it and he just complacently accepts his empty victory, it remind's me of his worst nightmare in the Arkham games, it was simply being forgotten, phasing away into just a bad memory, while Batman continues to flourish and his ultimate victory is utterly hollow

[@TimmyMcGowan]

“Impressive. Very nice. Let’s see Ra’s Al Ghul’s card.”

[@justincholos.balisang6884]

Gotham Psycho, where it's hip to be a joke as long as you fit in.

[@PeptoAbismol]

yeah this really does give off American Psycho vibes. he's quite obviously the fucking Joker, you can't tell me his coworkers and boss were fooled by a fake name and different hairstyle. they just didn't care that he's Joker lol

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

My favourite part about this comic is that Bruce Wayne is still alive after Batman dies, because Joker (intentionally) doesn't know they're the same guy.

[@FireFox64000000]

It's kind of poetic considering the only reason joker even became a regular Batman villain is because he makes a good counter to Batman.

[@Stratobloxxer]

E

[@martinmcneal2778]

This story makes me think that Joker is somewhat aware he's in a dream at some point.

[@localvega688]

Well he is aware of the 4th Wall.

[@Dante-Balisk]

A concept, wonder how a story would play out continuing the concept of 'Batman being killed' but instead of Joker going full normal, he gets an idea of trying to create a new Batman to rival or a way of resurrecting him like Jason was.

[@koji6745]

Megamind youre thinking of Megamind

[@localvega688]

@@koji6745 And The Batman who Laughs would be Tighten

[@DensilGrant]

He did it in the series the batman

[@avenged-khaos]

didn't he throw in into the Lazarus pits once?

[@zachheal5541]

even better idea he becomes the batman

[@jordanloux3883]

I actually like how they basically admit Joker only works as a Batman villain. Sure he's unkillable due to his popularity, but he's just a clever crook with a weird gimmick. Every other hero can stop him as easily as swatting a fly. He only really works on a more human, basic level, and that's where ol' Batsy works best too.

[@areyoutrippin9730]

​@@Flash_Biggest_HaterHe use that bat-level plot armor for evil, he would be too dangerous for the others heros of the JL

[@parkerwebb3470]

​@@areyoutrippin9730what about batman who laughs were he dies and creates a multi universal threat by burning down Gotham and killing a family batman style.

[@thereseemstobeenanerror1219]

​​@@Flash_Biggest_Hater No, it's not. What about that short story when Superman stopped the Joker with no problem? Just countered everything Joker had planned and surprise him with the Lazer version on top of that. If you have powers it's not hard to counter the clown.

[@Sanquinity]

@@thereseemstobeenanerror1219 I do feel like any story trying to depict the Joker as some incredibly strong super villain is completely missing the point of him. And I think batman basically being top dog among dozens of superheroes with actual superpowers is stupid too. He was supposed to just be a masked human. One with gadgets, wits, intelligence, and skill, but still just a human. And "every man's hero" taking down human level threats. Instead he pretty much became "the guy who can take down anyone else if he has enough time to make a plan". That's how I would still like my batman and joker to be. A human level superhero and villain. But they've both become too popular to ever be that again.

[@thereseemstobeenanerror1219]

@@Sanquinity Batman at least amongst the Justice League is a glass cannon of sorts. I do agree.

[@pandemonium2536]

I don't think jokers nightmare is "getting a normal job" I think it's more so that his worst nightmare is actually winning. He's miserable after batman dies, and while yeah he's successful in the company he clearly isn't happy with his life.

[@TetsuShima]

This whole comic's plot is basically: "HAHAHAHAHAHA, I HAVE WON...God, my life has no meaning now..." 😢

[@zeroattentiongaming820]

It's line when you're stuck on one last optional boss fight, failing so much that you start to hate it. You finally win and then your elation is quickly replaced with "Shit, now what?"

[@shikniwho7215]

not even "I have won" since Batman just fall and die, he didn't even get the satisfaction to kill Batman himself.

[@marfit77]

more like "HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I HAVE WON... but now what?

[@Ben_c-j4u]

Kinda like megamind

[@Auslander25]

This is like seth mcfarlanes road runner skit when the coyote finally catches the road runner and eats him and then falls into a depression, watching tv and drinking all day.

[@wishbone346]

I find it hilarious that in Joker's nightmare Batman dies in the most uneventful way possible. It's like not only is the fun gone, but it was taken away without any fanfare or even a punchline.

[@WatchKid12]

Joker: I DID IT! I finally killed Batman! Robin(or someone else, you decide.): Oh no! What are you going to do now?! Joker: Well, I… I’m not sure. I never really thought I’d get this far.

[@DBfan106]

I love how it wasn't even some big "I WIN!" moment for joker. Batman just... slipped.

[@celestirr]

That is what makes it all a nightmare. Harley once successfully caught and captured Batman.. very easily. And when presented to the Joker, he got mad and ended up letting him go. There wasn't any cameras or showy flashy things, no grand standing, no fear or public display.. it was a simple trick and some ropes.. and Joker hated all of it. He wants *everyone* to know when he finally wins.. and if they don't, he doesn't care and will try again later.

[@Sanquinity]

@@celestirr He doesn't even want to win. He only wants to play the game, as he puts it. And make a grand show of it for everyone to see.

[@akumothos]

Three greatest fears of the Joker: 1.) Winning effortlessly 2.) Getting a job 3.) IRS

[@Runia_Da_Witch]

Hmm... I think Joker's Nightmare in this case is not quite "I am nothing without Batman," but perhaps the fear of everything he does becoming... mundane. Expected. And no longer shocking. Perhaps Batman magnified his appeal but without him... he slowly fades into the background no matter how outlandish he is. In this story, this nightmare, he as done everything from cracking dark jokes to preaching anti-capitalist speeches in a company office to actually murdering people in a public area and... nobody bats an eye. They brush it off with "oh, that's just him" or "ah, that man just died tragically." And they then continue life as normal, even dragging Joker along with them to everyday things. And slowly but surely he gets swallowed up by it all to the point that the rumors of Batman returning don't spur him to any action because... "what's the point? It's not Batman, not THE Batman. MY Batman. He's dead and rotting in my closet." Perhaps his nightmare is that his chaos and worldview isn't enough to fight against the banality of the world. But that's with a cursory scan of the story as a whole.

[@darryljack6612]

Honestly Joker's nightmare reminds me of how he is in the Harley Quinn show currently.😂

[@_SYDGAMING_]

Lol sooo true. Though dad joker is pretty funny 😂

[@nathanmacrae9199]

Didn't he become mayor and arrest Bruce for tax evasion

[@_SYDGAMING_]

@@nathanmacrae9199 yeah lol

[@samwilliams6617]

Joker doesn't want to kill batman. He always wanted to break him. He wanted to get batman to admit the truth that people are not intrinsically good the way that he believes

[@wolffang471]

As the Joker said himself:" Without Batman, crime has no punchline. "

[@revivingsoon]

Is no one gonna talk about bruce knocking himself out by slipping and faceplanting into a metal sheet roof then casually being watched by joker and his men as his body slides off and drops onto the ground...also was he electrocuted by lightning?

[@AdamAddictL]

In Jokers nightmare, i don’t think he was even knocked out,I think the Batman in his nightmare died from the face plant onto the rooftop….nose bone through the brain

[@ieyasu_koga]

Imagine whatever plan he had set up to possibly kill batman and the rain on a metal roof does it.

[@revivingsoon]

@@ieyasu_koga lol joker: I'll kill you this time batman hahaha Roof and rain: ok we are tired of this continuous cat and mouse game if you can't decide who to kill then let us decide Joker: wait wha- Batman: *trips* Joker: *surprised Pikachu face*

[@revivingsoon]

@@AdamAddictL true I also was wondering about that, he did fall hard and knowing how heavy the batsuit and Bruce actually is that could've been the cause of death. That or it caused a major concussion and knocked him out then the ground did all the work lol

[@AdamAddictL]

@@revivingsoon you could be right,though imma stick to my theory,but unfortunately in the end all theories about it are moot anyway since it’s just Joker’s dream/nightmare 😆

[@ZukocucoeBeans]

I swear to god I was just watching the killing joke right now saying “what if joker finally killed Batman” Turn off HBO, clicked on KZbin & this the first video God is Good

[@cosmiccastor7171]

Nice

[@gp-1542]

I like how every time joker wins he just chooses normalcy No city destroying weapons, no world domination Just normal joe

[@ericandes4288]

I love how the one time Batman dies it's an accident lol

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

In the DCAU, Batman once remarked that he was fully aware that he could be killed one day, be it by the hands of a super villain, or just some punk who gets lucky.

[@edge1247]

​@berniethekiwidragon4382 or maybe even an extremely slippery Gotham Roof with no safe ledges.

[@PeptoAbismol]

no amount of prep-time could ever prepare you for a slippery metal roof.

[@JohnDanielRay1]

@@PeptoAbismol Get shoes that have high amounts of traction or a jet pack or a glider, easy.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

I love how he basically just became Patrick Bateman.

[@NovaWolfe]

Harley Quinn by HBO Max also captured the idea of No Batman/No Joker pretty well I think. When Scarecrow unmasked Bruce, Joker was not only furious but disappointed. We literally watch him cope by taking over Gotham, but it's not the same. (At this point Batman also was hospitalized after trying to use some new Iron Bat armor) and eventually Joker just winds down to being a stepfather

[@commonviewer2488]

He still finds a way to mess with Bruce by becoming a socialist mayor, and has the man arrested on legitimate terms

[@unnamed1613]

You can think about the Harley Quinn series what you want, but all characters are spot on. Even if they often act goofy for the sake of comedy, they are still act very in-character. Especialy during the times Harley shows that she has a PhD and gives characters like Bruce what they needed all along... therapy.

[@NovaWolfe]

@unnamed1613 Much agreed. I saw someone once say they think the show is just what living in Gotham is like from Harleys POV even when we are focused on other characters. Like she's telling us a story and the show is how we hear it. I see alot of good takes on this show.

[@jordanmchighlander9365]

Joker didn't just "resign himself to being a stepfather." He freaking owned that role. He joined the school board his son's school in order to get Spanish language classes as part of the curriculum because he wanted his stepson, Benicio, to feel connected to and proud of his Hispanic heritage.

[@NovaWolfe]

@jordanmchighlander9365 While I feel like you misunderstood my use of the words "winds down", I wholeheartedly agree with you. Joker did totally own being a stepfather, which I had not at all expected when he got reverted from his "more normal self". The Jokers arc in the show is top tier.

[@rdymr1]

Wow this was really great. I appreciate the writers taking us down this rabbit hole

[@TetsuShima]

This story mades me think that the reason Joker doesn't appear in the TNBA episode "Over the Edge" is because, with Batman's identity revealed and the vigilante being turned into a wanted criminal, the clown's reaction was to put a noose around his own neck

[@MrJol420]

Tnba ?

[@dynex811]

The new Batman adventures

[@Boiling_milk]

@@MrJol420The second series of The animated series, they changed the animation style and added Tim and Babara as regulars and Tim is basically Jason but named Tim Drake

[@MrJol420]

@@dynex811 oh alright. Lol I hate how they changed the name halfway. I was like what comic was this

[@MrJol420]

@@Boiling_milk yeah nah I remeber. And then especially on the re watch. It's really 2 different shows just one cannon. I Hate how they changed jokers look too. And that's what stayed in Justice League unlimited. To be fair a similar thing happened with that show just changing

[@Devil_-zy6vv]

I read this comic for that one panel of Jason in the suit. Worth it.

[@shuvankarsarkar9657]

where?

[@bluecanine3374]

I like how when a Batman shows back up and he has a chance to go back to his old ways, he dismisses it and sorta seems to find a weird comfort in the boring life he has now

[@kotyissocool]

In joker’s nightmare, why would Bruce Wayne still be alive? Last I read the comics he was fully aware of Batman’s secret identity but actively chose to ignore it because he doesn’t want to fight Bruce, he wants to fight Batman

[@CaptainPrincess]

you ever notice how in dreams you rarely ever question whats going on, even if you remember it being super weird when you wake up some people are more lucid dreams and recognize when things are off sure, but I think thats probably quite rare and most people probably just dont question things in their dreams cause their logic centers are going along with it

[@insertedgynamehere___969]

He sees batman and Bruce Wayne as two separate people

[@cmurphy0707]

@@insertedgynamehere___969So if Bruce Wayne is still alive in his nightmare and Batman has returned then who’s the corpse in Joker’s closet?

[@insertedgynamehere___969]

@@cmurphy0707 batman returned?

[@stranger9847]

I think what's even worse is in his nightmare he doesn't even actually kill Batman Batman just slipped and fell and died. 😂

[@hunter5822]

3:41 imagine if joker went even more mad and developed another split personality and started being a vigilante by night and setting up crimes by day to spoil by night…. The riddler would also go insane too though.

[@christianrapper]

We all were thinking that he might become Batman. I am glad that they didn’t go that route

[@virokyu]

This reminds me of the TellTale Batman games, in short, Joker can either turn out like the normal Joker, or if you pick the right choices, he'll try to be just like Batman, batarangs shaped like devilish grins n all

[@VenomousJoker9097]

If this is the case. I wonder how Joker would do against Freddy Krueger. That would be a nice match up tbh

[@TheoRae8289]

Now there's an idea. Fun fact, there's an incomplete NOES comic that Marvel released that was meant to tell Krueger's whole backstory.

[@yobwoc1000]

I'm curious if Scarecrow would turn anti villain to take on whoever is spreading the nightmares. If anyone is responsible for causing the nightmares

[@kallsusae]

i like how it shows the joker has no idea who batman is. there is no surprise over bruce wayne being alive when he thought batman was dead

[@PS3customer]

There is Arkham Knight's take on Joker's greatest fear where Gotham moves on and he is forgotten by everyone around him. I personally prefer that one but this works too.

[@comicfan1324]

I can’t tell what’s scarier to Joker: Batman dying or how boring life will be after he’s gone

[@dissonanceparadiddle]

I like the thought that the joker in his dreams doesn't know Batman is Bruce Wayne. Which of course is true he doesn't ever want to know

[@johndoe7270]

Just imagine the Joke doing tech support. Laughing at you manically because you got a computer virus from porn.

[@TheStrings-83639]

He becomes a “Joker Who Doesn't Laugh” basically?

[@localvega688]

Given the Joker is aware of the 4th wall and knows Batman's secret identity, he must have figured out this is a dream. This is likely a ploy to play dumb and boring to lull whoever is controlling this reality (Insomnia) into a false sense of security. He has also become aware of how his own mind is generating the nightmare which is why he separated himself from his gang and anything else from his old life. He kept the Batcorpse both because of his obsession as well as knowing the one controlling this reality would want to reanimate it to make a dramatic appearance. This way he knows he will have an assortment of kitchen knives, blunt objects, and other weapons to attack him with.

[@nav3346]

100% his nightmare. Walking into a business, with how infamous he is, and nobody notices who he is.

[@tibedog5629]

The best part of this is that guy in the back behind The Joker doing the "AH COME ON?!?!" when the lady invites the boss to their night out. What a hilarious nightmare detail, random co workers just not wanting you to be around.

[@larvasupershow]

I love how anytime Batman is supposedly "dead" or the Joker wins, he just has no clue what else to do with his life and just gets a normal job.

[@victorgray6731]

He took his own life. 😂😂😂😂😂. I know the joker was swearing in his sleep

[@Scrappy_ill_fold_ya_Doo]

So is Morpheus from the Endless in this arc since someone is disturbing the Dream Realm?

[@silcrow4045]

forgive me if I'm unaware, but I'm pretty sure this guy stole some of dreams artifact's or something? i might be mixing this with another arc or something

[@jessikablake4784]

I love how he still finds a way to take on the real batman by getting him in trouble with the irs

[@TYGKO.]

THIS JOKER IS ACTUALLY HILARIOUS 😂

[@dungton6066]

I got a problem here. Why didn’t DC wait until Halloween to release this? This is gold for that season… Unless they got something better cooking behind the scene

[@propaneandpropane3942]

DC has no sense of planning

[@thereseemstobeenanerror1219]

​@@propaneandpropane3942 Yeah