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[@k53107]

I kind of chuckled when Trey mentioned kids listening to Christian music and then moving away from it, and remembering when the news story broke. That was definitely me. I remember loving "Hanging On" as a kid and turning to that song for comfort when dealing with a rough home situation and church life. Then I went through numerous years where I couldn't listen to any Christian music without having panic attacks and flashbacks, and after seeing that he'd come out, I looked up that song and listened to it again and didn't feel any fear. Thanks for sharing your story!

[@heydichamale3425]

I really loved hearing Trey's story! It was so raw and genuine, and you can tell he felt safe in this community to share the details. A couple of days after hearing this episode, Netflix suggested that I watch the conversion therapy documentary "Pray Away." My heart is broken from hearing so much pain, but it's necessary to hear these stories.

[@popmusiclover1000]

As a gay Christian who gave my life to Christ at age 8, Trey is such an inspiration to me! I went to a church for a little growing up here in New Jersey that was very conservative and has false teachings about being gay but I never fell for those lies! I know this is how God made me to be! Now I have found a new church that has a LGBTQ+ flag out front and is so loving and accepting with loving your neighbors without ANY conditions or judgement which is how I try to be. We need to love others who don’t love like us. Who don’t look like us. And let God be the judge of someone’s heart and not try to change how others were made in His image. Also as a big contemporary Christian music fan it make me sad to know there are artists in the closet. The CCM industry needs to keep progressing too! Thanks for this interview Brenda…. love you so much and this channel has been a Godsend for me for the year I’ve been subscribed ☺️❤️

[@simpsbelongtothegulags3702]

God have you those gay feelings But in beinf a Christian where you have to please God and folloe his will, You can never be married and let distractions get in the way of you serving him

[@KingPingviini]

Deception comes in the name of love and acceptance.

[@popmusiclover1000]

@@KingPingviini sorry you feel that way…. Love and acceptance is what Jesus always showed to everyone. Deception to me is cheating on your spouse who you vowed to love and be faithful to in an agreed commitment (like a lot of self proclaimed Christians have done including republican women from Georgia, Marjorie Taylor Greene) there’s nothing wrong or deceptive with Two men or two women having a beautiful love but I know I won’t change your mind so have a great day.

[@dazza8551]

Imagine if I called myself an Adulterous Christian... there is no such thing as a Gay Christian, do you even read the Bible?! Just because you feel certain way doesn't mean it's right, if a man is attracted to another woman and wants to cheat on his wife is that ok since these are his feelings, of course not! don't put so much value on your feelings but put it on the TRUTH, read the Word and pray!

[@popmusiclover1000]

@@dazza8551 why are you even on this channel? lol Obviously your views don't align with Brenda. I'm sorry you feel this way.. but here in New Jersey where I live all over there are churches with pride flags. My dad goes to one, so you're entitled to your opinion about what you think is sin but i'm entitled to believe what I want..... there's biological evidence of homosexuality im sorry you can't understand that God creates people differently. It really isn't that hard to understand tbh but unfortunately there is hardly any empathy in the world right now.... Believe as you shall, but I know how much I love Jesus and have always understood God made me in a unique way something you'll not be able to understand.. Oh and comparing adultery to being gay is not cool.. Two different things, one is about love maybe looking different than what you're used to the other is a deceitful decision some make.. Have a blessed day! Love, a gay christian ☺️

[@burkleypage1443]

defining kissing a guy for a couple years as "very european" gave me a really good laugh and i need to say thank you for that

[@jesswheat2746]

Thank you so much both for this fantastic!

[@pianoplayer2260]

Jess, I NEED YOU TO READ THIS RIGHT NOW. IT APPLIES TO YOU. Are you 100% sure that if you died today you would go to heaven? Do you know Jesus Christ? I am convinced that most people who call themselves "Christian" know religion instead of Jesus Christ. Or they have created their own God in their head. That is why we must make sure that we know the God of the bible and know that we are truly saved. Lay religion, Christian culture, and even politics aside. Someone who truly loves you is reaching out to you not willing that you should perish (2 Peter3), but that you be saved from the price of your sins. With that said, how do you deal with your sin? Yes you. How many times have you lied, lusted, or stolen? I'm guilty, what about you? I hope you feel convicted. But if you're going to reject the free gift of salvation, you ought to think about where you are going after death. Is this your mindset? Luke 12:19 “And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.” Please please do not be this person that Jesus described here. I don't care how if you are in a ministry or even behind a pulpit. And their is no shame in getting saved. Matthew 7 21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. You see there will be professing Christians that were not actually saved. I want to help you. Matthew 18:3 "And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven." Because of God's holiness we cannot be in his presence as we are in our sin. No matter how righteous one may appear everyone has sinned and one sin can lead to hell, but there is a way out. We don't deserve it but God made a way that we may become the righteousness of God (Romans 5). I want you to have 100% assurance of salvation. Romans 3:23 - For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 14 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Romans 6 23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. 1 John 1:9 - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1Corinthians 15: 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Romans 10 9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13For WHOSOEVER shall CALL upon the name of the Lord shall be SAVED. Here is the gospel straight and simple: 1. Truly acknowledge that you have sinned against a perfect God and you are worthy of hell that can only be saved by the blood of Jesus Christ 2. Believe that Jesus died for and covered all of your sins and rose again. 3. Say to God that Jesus Christ that he is your saviour. Please let me know. I am praying for you, today is the day of salvation. 2 Corinthians 5:17 “Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."

[@emmanarotzky6565]

I can’t believe some people on here are mad at him for leaving his wife. What did you want him to do, keep lying to her, hurting her, and wasting her time? It’s not his fault that he couldn’t come out to himself until later in life, that’s the fault of the church leaders who told him being gay was an embarrassment. They’re the ones responsible for hurting his ex-wife; he’s the one who saved her from that situation by being brave enough to tell the truth.

[@redtailarts101]

I must say, I do feel bad for his (ex) wife. She is blameless and I can't imagine how hard it must be for her to have been in love with this guy only to find out he was gay. I am glad they split though; now, she can be with somebody who will love her.

[@hudlepie953]

I’m sure tho once he came out to her, it probably brought a lot of closure to her, even if it was really hard

[@joannelee8735]

Thank you so much for this video!

[@sasarahb]

God loves us all, and because he loves us he will give us strength to astray from sin. God is not grey, he is black and white. The bible says you cannot serve two masters, and you are leading more people to sin by preaching false truth. I pray that God reveals to you all the true gospel, and that is that Jesus is Lord and through him and him alone can we be saved and find salvation. Sin is not of God. I pray that before it is too late you and your followers will rebuke sin and the master of sin and remember that God loves you and will make you clean like snow but as long as you are living in sin, God can't live in you. It is never too late to choose God over sin and he will welcome you back to him with open arms always. Praise God always❤️

[@JoseEduardo1594-]

I love the fact that God is the same yesterday today and forever. and what’s the one quality that God is? He is LOVE. That means His love is never ever changing. He love is always true and can always be counted on when everything seems grey. Gods love is black and white.

[@Ilovekghimothy]

1 corinthians 6:9. Give it a read

[@JoseEduardo1594-]

I’ve read it. Context is key bro. He was talking about those who indulged in unholy lifestyles of promiscuity like in sodom and Gomorrah. It’s one of those fine lines just like alcohol, what could be a sin for one person might not for another depending on how we treat it. I’m not saying what is a sin or not, I’m saying God searches our heart and we should too 👍🏾

[@Ilovekghimothy]

@@JoseEduardo1594- many new English translation say “homosexuals will find themselves in the lake of fire” what was going in sodom and gohmorra was homosexuality💀 Paul’s letter wasn’t to any church their, due to the lack of spiritual convictions in those areas.

[@Ilovekghimothy]

@@JoseEduardo1594- in fact, the letter was addressed to the church of Corinth. It was the basis for the church we know it today. All love brother but the Bible quite clearly addressed homosexuality as a sin in Leviticus, Roman’s, and Corinthians.

[@JoseEduardo1594-]

We’ll have to agree to disagree! But thank you for your feedback. God bless brother!

[@erinelizabeth9047]

I’m not crying! You’re crying! 😭😭😭

[@Daamwright]

Just experienced UNION brunch two weeks ago🙌🏿. Great story.

[@pianoplayer2260]

Dame, can you please explain what you think the gospel is? You don't accept Jesus Christ as a life-enhancement, you ask him to save you from lost sinful condition. I NEED YOU TO READ THIS RIGHT NOW. IT APPLIES TO YOU. Are you 100% sure that if you died today you would go to heaven? Do you know Jesus Christ? I am convinced that most people who call themselves "Christian" know religion instead of Jesus Christ. Or they have created their own God in their head. That is why we must make sure that we know the God of the bible and know that we are truly saved. Lay religion, Christian culture, and even politics aside. Someone who truly loves you is reaching out to you not willing that you should perish (2 Peter3), but that you be saved from the price of your sins. With that said, how do you deal with your sin? Yes you. How many times have you lied, lusted, or stolen? I'm guilty, what about you? I hope you feel convicted. But if you're going to reject the free gift of salvation, you ought to think about where you are going after death. Is this your mindset? Luke 12:19 “And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.” Please please do not be this person that Jesus described here. I don't care how if you are in a ministry or even behind a pulpit. And their is no shame in getting saved. Matthew 7 21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. You see there will be professing Christians that were not actually saved. I want to help you. Matthew 18:3 "And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven." Because of God's holiness we cannot be in his presence as we are in our sin. No matter how righteous one may appear everyone has sinned and one sin can lead to hell, but there is a way out. We don't deserve it but God made a way that we may become the righteousness of God (Romans 5). I want you to have 100% assurance of salvation. Romans 3:23 - For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 14 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Romans 6 23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. 1 John 1:9 - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1Corinthians 15: 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Romans 10 9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13For WHOSOEVER shall CALL upon the name of the Lord shall be SAVED. Here is the gospel straight and simple: 1. Truly acknowledge that you have sinned against a perfect God and you are worthy of hell that can only be saved by the blood of Jesus Christ 2. Believe that Jesus died for and covered all of your sins and rose again. 3. Say to God that Jesus Christ that he is your saviour. Please let me know. I am praying for you, today is the day of salvation. 2 Corinthians 5:17 “Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."

[@irinaphoenix2169]

Oh my god - THANK YOU

[@annaspeaksout2964]

Brenda, in relation to the part where the two of you agree about the Bible "not all being the inerrant word of God", I would love to know your thoughts on this passage... In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. John 1:1‭-‬5 KJV

[@1Lordbuddy]

I believe the Spirit is teaching about the divinity of Jesus as both the Word of God (the Son is separate from the Father) and God himself (the only begotten Son is also God). The Bible Project did a fantastic breakdown of the passage and the Gospel of John is the one focused on His divinity. When the Word walked this earth, He was 100% absolutely, unequivocably innerant, and both taught and demonstrated God's wisdom to the fullest extent. *"Pure religion and undefiled before our God and Father is this, to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction [Love], and to keep oneself unspotted from the world [Holiness]."* (James 1:27). Because *"God is Love"* (1 John 4:16) and *"God is Holy"* (1 Peter 1:16). However, when time drew near for the inerrant Word of God to leave, He said, "I still have much to tell you, but you cannot yet bear to hear it. However, when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth." (John 16:12). I believe the first manuscripts of scripture are true revelations... but do you remember what John himself wrote in Revelation? "I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and the holy city, which are described in this book." (Revelation 22:19). This suggests that people _can_ and _will_ try change the word of God, to their own peril. And we have evidence that indeed, the word of God has been tempered with. Throughout history, people have weaponized scripture against others to meet their own worldly ends. And to a begnin degree, even the scribes who painstakingly copy/pasted the word have changed parts of scripture (to an almost inconsequential extent I must emphasize) because they didn't fully comprehend one teaching or another, and tried to fit the text to their own understanding, with pure intentions for the reader... we see these changes reverted back by elder scribes or by other scribes at a later date, and the scribes who come after the two are uncertain which change is correct and inerrent. When I first learned about all this, it challenged my faith. But when I learned about the Protestant Reformation, my faith was shaken, and I felt a deep sense come over me from within, I believe from the Spirit, that no matter what, God is able to preserve His Word. Even though the very first manuscripts of scripture are lost to antiquity, what remains to us can be used to reconstruct by comparison, in order to determine which changes were made in error / with ill intent. God the Spirit will do the rest, for He is the Spirit of truth, who brings about the renewing of our minds. Many conservative preachers today quote Jeremiah 17:9 "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick / corrupt / wicked; who can know / understand it?" - but this was something said about the hearts of men before the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Later in the same book, God made us a promise that is barely quoted: "This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD. I will put My law in their minds and inscribe it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they will be My people. No longer will each man teach his neighbor or his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ because they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the LORD." (Jeremiah 31:33) God has written His Moral Law in our mind and heart, and this is one way in which He preserves the inerrancy of the Word. Because Jesus taught it is He who knocks at the door of our hearts when we let Him in. The same Word that once walked this earth has made His home within us - we are His Temple. What God has promised through Jeremiah does not only apply to the Isralites: “This is the covenant I will make with them after that time, says the Lord. I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their minds.” (Hebrews 10:16). The Spirit will help us discern what is true, He will also help us interpret the scriptures, and He will help us grow in our understanding x spirituality. When the Word facilitates an understanding that matches what is written in scripture (or many parts of scripture)... that is how we know without doubt that it comes from God the Father. I find that a truly complete understanding will always make all the verses in scripture sing as one choir - the inerrancy vs errancy thing is very complicated lol haha, but requires faith in God to uphold the truth. I hope what I share brings you peace of mind.

[@annaspeaksout2964]

@@1Lordbuddy Thank you so much for taking the time to share all of that! I was thinking of the Revelation passage myself as well after asking the original question.

[@1Lordbuddy]

@@annaspeaksout2964 Thank you for reading all that lols. Sorry the response was lengthy; the question of biblical inerrancy was the first crisis of faith I overcame. And the conclusion in my heart, despite it all, is that I truly believe God preserves His word.

[@keithrogers4170]

Jesus IS the word

[@amandabosebar1985]

No matter how you slice it, and trying to explain passages away with poor hermeneutics, you're promoting sin, and to me its clear you're leaning on your own understanding and not the word of God. The world cheers you on and accepts your ideas, because the Jesus you promote isn't the biblical Jesus. Yet, you have a huge following of deceived people thinking what you're promoting is what God is ok with or accepts, repent. Sister, do not be deceived, we can not hold hands with the world but enter the kingdom of heaven.

[@debm3716]

💯 for this comment! You have worded this so well!

[@WinterSaeculum]

Misha Petrov is truly beautiful!

[@CoreenMontagna]

His boyfriend’s name is Jonathan 🥹 how beautiful is that! (David & Jonathan)

[@rocketsurgeon1746]

Disgusting and not biblical, since that is where you are trying to go

[@voicevitality7197]

Way to go! Mocking the Bible. Jesus must be so proud.

[@rocketsurgeon1746]

@Brianna Jenell thank you! Finally some sanity :)

[@CoreenMontagna]

@Brianna Jenell no one can be said to be officially “gay” before the most recent 100ish years, given the way it is now conceived. Yet the story of this relationship is one that allowed him to feel seen, so I contend that his current relationship reflecting this story is beautiful.

[@voices7198]

interesting.

[@tilda4699]

Not gonna lie, the video title made me angry until I saw what channel it was :D

[@jamesbunch8932]

You should interview Dan Haseltine, if he's allowed to speak publically anymore!

[@john14_63]

John14_6 Hi Brenda! Since you often reference faith in your discussions, can you please create a video that summarize what your faith beliefs are ? For example, it would be wonderful to hear (a) a brief version of how you would share the Gospel with someone (b) Who IS Jesus to you? (c) What do you believe about the Bible (d) do you read, study and discuss scripture with others? Jesus' words (see Matthew 18:6) make it fairly clear that it's critically important how/where we lead others, and you're obviously leading others..... so can you please do a short video so that people can remotely understand what you believe ? Thanks so much !!

[@reginawilson3778]

Your channel is so amazing

[@sashadlamini6387]

To the Church in Thyatira 18 “To the angel of the church in Thyatira write: These are the words of the Son of God, whose eyes are like blazing fire and whose feet are like burnished bronze. 19 I know your deeds, your love and faith, your service and perseverance, and that you are now doing more than you did at first. 20 Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophet. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols. 21 I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling. 22 So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. 23 I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds. 24 Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan’s so-called deep secrets, ‘I will not impose any other burden on you, 25 except to hold on to what you have until I come.’

[@benjaminmoline5176]

You should post your debate with the pro life woman. You guys actually came to agreement on a few things and that should be exciting and you should be eager to spread the word on what exactly the pro life movement is about. The demonization got cleared up and actually views so what's the delay?

[@samambler3809]

It seems like these people are trying to change christianity to fit their lifestyles instead of the other way around. Leviticus 18:22 It's so clear. Anything else is a willfull disobedience of God. No matter how much you try to justify it. And that shame they talk about feeling constantly when they have homosexual thoughts is intentionally put there by the Holy Spirit. That's how you know the Holy Spirit is at work inside of you. He's the one who gives you that natural shame in thinking of / doing a very unnatural and sinful thing. I hope you guys see this someday and leave your sin behind.

[@lillie4372]

You should do a video on your debate with Lila Rose, I would love to hear what you have to say about your willfully ignorant arguments

[@jennifervelez3826]

She has, look it up. Eye-opening debate.

[@livviegrace123]

Love the picture from my hometowns small pride festival 😌

[@melonhead122908]

Speaking of “that documentary” that illustrates the mistranslation of homosexuality - does anybody out here know where it can be found? I’ve been wanting to watch that.

[@Mybabylady]

I've been waiting too! I believe they are still short funds for final production.

[@pianoplayer2260]

@Kimberly Chua Sodomite is the correct word

[@pianoplayer2260]

Chris, YOU NEED TO GET SAVED

[@melonhead122908]

@@pianoplayer2260 You need to study history, context, Greek and biblical exegesis. After that, go back and actually read the New Testament. After that, you need learn how not to judge other people who express curiosity in things without showing any hint of agreement or disagreement in those things.

[@melonhead122908]

@@Mybabylady I was hoping for a release on HBOMax or Netflix, only reason being those are services I already have. But if I had to pay a tiny fee to rent it on KZbin, I'd be ok with that. Unfortunately, all i can find is trailers for 1946 and not the actual film.

[@jonscott2666]

Brenda you are amazing ❤️❤️💕❤️. You are fucking brilliant and I love you ❤️💕❤️❤️❤️💕

[@terminaltvshow]

1:11:00 oof, I’m wrecked 😭

[@terminaltvshow]

1:13:00 dammit! 😭😭

[@carissaexplainsitall8481]

This is not intended to be hateful but I do not think your idea of Christianity is compatible with biblical Christianity. You can live however you want but I don’t think “Christian” is the name for it. Maybe you want to be a good person or want to make the world a better place and that’s great, but whatever it is it is not an authentic representation of what it means to be a Christian. Sorry

[@someoneyouprobablyknowandl9964]

The fact that you think they're trying to be a good person, but also say that that makes them non-aligned with Christianity is...

[@MusicalRaichu]

The Christian faith has never been static. Right from the start there have been differences of opinion and interpretation. The early church resolved this issue by formulating a statement of fundamental beliefs, the Nicene Creed, which all mainstream denominations follow. Follow that and you can call it "biblical Christianity". But if you deny the deity or humanity of Christ, his atonement and resurrection, or other clear doctrine of scripture as the Creed outlines, then it's not. As for wanting "to be a good person and to make the world a better place", I suggest you take a closer look at the Bible. That was the consistent message of the prophets, Jesus and the apostles (e.g. Micah 6.8, Mat 22.40, John 13.34, Rom 13.8-10). There is more to it, after all we fail in that ideal which is why we need a saviour. But once you have started to follow the saviour, that's what he commands you to do, nothing more, nothing less.

[@JHL751]

​@@MusicalRaichu God is not an opinion , what he said is real, historical evidence of what he said happened actually happened

[@debm3716]

I agree with you Carissa - Brenda and this fellow are not about biblical Christianity. It is a reproach on the name of Christ when people like this profess to be Christian.

[@MusicalRaichu]

@@debm3716 oh for goodness sake. it's a reproach on the name of Christ when Christians subject children to such intolerable anguish that they either lose their faith to keep their sanity, or end up ending their lives, or wilfully blind themselves with dogma when the secular world understands secs orientation and has repented of its past errors.

[@lukasderlokomotivfuhrer7657]

So you believe God cannot cure sin?

[@ItzJezze]

I'm not Grey.

[@bajbhdkn]

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[@danielrisk5731]

I often scratch my head as I read what so called "progressive Christianity" is all about ! For example you never talk about the two sexual sins God talks about over and over in Gods Word the Bible ( "Fornication and Adultery" ) and you never mention the scripture where God calls LGBT behavior an "error" ( Romans 1;26-32) and you say you do not believe in "hell" yet God specifically talks about " hell and the lake of fire" also in his Word the Bible in Revelation 20; 14 and 15 ! Furthermore, you never point people to the two things we must all do to bypass "hell and the lake of fire" outlined in Romans 10; 9 and 10 ( the Bible ) ! Why question mark ! PS: If that is all progressive christianity I want no part of all that !

[@MusicalRaichu]

The meaning of the word sometimes translated fornicashon is unclear but is predominantly about prostitooshon. married men using prostitoots was acceptable in Roman culture, which is why there was a conflict with Jewish and Christian moral standards. I've never heard anyone of any branch of Christianity, or even other religion or atheist promote adultery. if you want to allege that some Christian promotes it, then please supply verifiable documented proof. Neither God nor the Bible refers to such behaviour as "error". Rom 1 says that idolatrous Roman males did shameful things with each other. Study how they behaved and you'll agree. And so what? What does it have to do with men who have not worshipped an idol, not set aside the use of a woman (which they never had), behaved respectfully and decently, and not been filled with all kinds of evil? Don't quote the Bible out of context. There is no word "heII" in the Bible. Jesus spoke about Gehenna, an actual place south of Jerusalem which the Jews of his day referred to as where the unrighteous will end up, and Revelation mentions the lake of fire where the unsaved will be thrown. There are various theories about it but the Bible fails to give a consistent message. For example, Revelation says that the deviI will be tormented forever, but doesn't say that about people. The same people thrown into the lake of fire will still exist outside the city of God whose doors always remain open. Who knows, perhaps God will always remain ready to forgive the repentant. After all, "one man’s act of righteousness leads to acquittal and life for ALL" and "he is the atonement ... not for ours only but also for the sins of the WHOLE world". There are reasons people think what they do, just like you have reasons for your beliefs. But just because you've been taught something that matches some biblical proof-text doesn't necessarily make you right or that there aren't other justifiable points of view.

[@JHL751]

​@@MusicalRaichu God said it is sin, so you want to go to the lake of fire

[@MusicalRaichu]

@@JHL751 What did God say was sin? The original post includes a range of issues. As far as hurtful behaviour such us unfaithfulness, exploit-a-shone and secs ab-use, definitely sin. As far as LGBT goes, that's just biological differences between individuals, not under a person's control, so how can it be sin?

[@danielrisk5731]

@@MusicalRaichu Hello again ! You might want to read 1 Corinthians 6;9 -11 as God directly addresses "Fornication and Adultery" ( the two sexaul sins Brenda from "God is grey " you tube channel ) never wants to talk about ! God goes as far as to say those people dabbling in those sins "will not inherit the Kingdom of GOD" ( aka go to Heaven ) ! Very strong words used by GOD with no wiggle room ! Great news is anyone can do a 180 degree turn at any time by doing what God says to do in Romans 10; 9 and 10 ! ps : you can go to Heaven if you ( we) do those two things God outlines ! PS: I am puzzled that a so called Christian ( Brenda) never mentions or points people to Gods free gift of Salvation and how they too can bypass "hell and the lake of fire" ( Revelation 20; 14 and 15 ) and go to Heaven ! And I have asked her that same question on many occasions!

[@MusicalRaichu]

@@danielrisk5731 the Greek word you cited as adult-thingy in 1 Cor 6 meant a man who used another man's wife. I am unaware of any culture or religion who says it's OK. even atheists say it's not OK. I'm certainly not saying it's OK. the meaning of the Greek word you cited as for-thingy seems to be disputed. I thought it meant a customer of a prostitoot, or maybe it's a general word for a secsually immoral man. I'll have to investigate it. I'm not familiar with this channel, but it's up to the host to focus on how she can best use her God-given gifts. Some are good at evangelism, others at other things. She's free to focus on issues where she can make a positive contribution.

[@kaylaburfeind]

Grew up listening to Christian music. Lost my faith many years ago, but hearing from Trey is so affirming. I can only imagine the positive effect knowing he was gay when I was younger would have on my life. Thank you for sharing.

[@JHL751]

this is a tragedy

[@lastnamefirstname8843]

Just stopping by to say how awful your performance was in the Ellen Fisher podcast was. Truly embarrassing!

[@ebg3624]

Just here to say you got wrecked by Lila Rose, I hope you walked away having learned a lot.

[@WinterSaeculum]

:)

[@jpnj9556]

Really sad. A married man with children leaves his wife for his own selfishness. He is not someone to be celebrated.

[@hsfan876]

you have got to be kidding me 🤦🏻‍♂️ it would be selfish for him to come to terms with his sexuality and still remain in a relationship that is hurting him and his wife, and that would wind up hurting his children secondarily. not to be honest and let them know the truth so that his wife can find a man who loves her and can fulfill what she needs him to fulfill. being gay and living his life authentically is not "selfishness".

[@1Lordbuddy]

*"Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?"* (Galatians 3:3). The Church was wrong for teaching that we can attain sanctification by the power of our own strength to obey in the flesh, rather than the inner working of the Holy Spirit, who is the pioneer and perfecter of our faith. I read Gay Girl Good Girl by Jackie Hill-Perry recently, and her entire love story with Preston (and the desolate & dejected words she used to describe their relationship) completely rejects what Paul is teaching. In response to the Pharisee teaching salvation by way of the flesh, Jesus chastized them and turned to the lost, "Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls." - The way of the Lord Jesus Christ does not lead to constant unfuilfilment, and depression in relationships. As for him leaving his wife, I will leave judgment for God. But as for the church presiding over these unequally yoked marriages in the first place, with commentators like you being the cherry on top, showing a complete lack of empathy ... well, that is just unbiblical. No matter how you slice this cake dear, an unequally yoked marriage is against scripture, and the Church is at fault too.

[@jpnj9556]

Again. I don't care what his sexual preferences are. He left his family to fulfill selfish desires. Be true to the commitment you made to your wife before God.

[@1Lordbuddy]

@@jpnj9556 But he was coerced into making his commitment by the church and society at large. And... _sexual preference?_ You make eros x orientation sound like a decision between chocolate and vanilla ice cream.

[@elijahmalachi45-63]

then why did you lrave your wife? 🙄😀

[@rippletea7143]

Never heard of this person before! Great video. Personally I have been struggling to find places that teach a more progressive interpretation or historical interpretation of the Bible. If anyone has any people they recommend I watch I would RLLY appreciate it 😊🤍

[@debm3716]

Watch John MacArthur for sound exegetical teaching of the Bible and stay away from progressives who put their own spin on the Bible and leading people astray.

[@MusicalRaichu]

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[@rocketsurgeon1746]

As a christian, we are to tell other christians when they are off track. Brenda, either study your bible and change your views or stop calling yourself a christian. There is no such thing as a christian that stands for everything God hates. I hope you change and i will happily help

[@aestheticvibes432]

Thank you for pointing it out, she's practicing new age Christianity and making loop holes for Christian...she's definitely not a Christian and it aggrevates me to see how many people she's leading astray, it's proof of how Christians meditate and read the bible

[@debm3716]

I’m so pleased to see so many people in the comments calling Brenda out as a non Christian. I pray that she considers why we are all saying this and that she would repent and trust in Christ alone for salvation and stop leading so many people astray. She is a blind guide leading people to hell.

[@popmusiclover1000]

Hi. Not to sound rude but how do YOU know what God hates….. The Bible has so many mistranslations so it may be important for you to look into that because everything in life, including God’s view on sin isn’t so black and white as Brenda also believes. Jesus was all about love and it’s been proven by studies that God creates people in His image to be LGBTQ+. Have a great day!

[@rocketsurgeon1746]

@@popmusiclover1000 i know because the Bible says what God hates, so I avoid those things and warn others that might not know. If they know and don't care, that is on them. Hope this clarifies

[@rocketsurgeon1746]

@@popmusiclover1000 to clarify, God does NOT make you gay. You might have leanings toward sinful activities, but it doesn't mean that you cannot choose to deny those urges. Lgbt lifestyles are counter to God in every way. Study the Bible and don't believe youtubers :) Read the Bible and God will show you. Take care

[@Angelica._.officalll]

I believe the host suffers from Depression. Do not be deceived. Use your Christ-Given discernment.

[@voicevitality7197]

Jesus helps us with our sexual sin. He can help you too.

[@pianoplayer2260]

If you are a homosexual and you actually care about the truth, Jesus Christ can help you without some weird therapy. The most important thing though is GET SAVED IMMEADIATELY. Luke 12:19 “And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.” Please please do not be this person that Jesus described here. I don't care how if you are in a ministry or even behind a pulpit. And their is no shame in getting saved. Matthew 7 21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. You see there will be professing Christians that were not actually saved. I want to help you. Matthew 18:3 "And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven." Because of God's holiness we cannot be in his presence as we are in our sin. No matter how righteous one may appear everyone has sinned and one sin can lead to hell, but there is a way out. We don't deserve it but God made a way that we may become the righteousness of God (Romans 5). I want you to have 100% assurance of salvation. Romans 3:23 - For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 14 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Romans 6 23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. 1 John 1:9 - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1Corinthians 15: 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Romans 10 9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13For WHOSOEVER shall CALL upon the name of the Lord shall be SAVED. Here is the gospel straight and simple: 1. Truly acknowledge that you have sinned against a perfect God and you are worthy of hell that can only be saved by the blood of Jesus Christ 2. Believe that Jesus died for and covered all of your sins and rose again. 3. Say to God that Jesus Christ that he is your saviour. Please let me know. I am praying for you, today is the day of salvation. 2 Corinthians 5:17 “Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."

[@pianoplayer2260]

@Kimberly Chua Romans 1 is enough research

[@pianoplayer2260]

@@availanila Are you saved yourself?

[@pianoplayer2260]

@Kimberly Chua I'm preaching what the bible says. I want to see people get saved.

[@pianoplayer2260]

@Kimberly Chua Look I'm not Greek bible corrector who thinks they know better than the KJV translators, I just believe every word of God as it says. I have reasons ffg or being KJV only. To interpret Romans 1 as referring to just pedophilia is extremely biased. If you lived a hundred years ago you would never think that. You are trying to reconcile the world with the word of God. That is serious compromise. I'm not going to respond to you anymore because I doubt it will do any good.

[@pianoplayer2260]

@EC Welling Mr. Welling, are you willing to become a fool for the name of Jesus Christ? Or would you rather appeal to higher education and be an intellectual in the eyes of the world? If you or Brenda had to choose between Jesus Christ and the alphabet community, I'm hoping I will be surprized. You cannot love the world and God (see 1 John 2:15). 1 Corinthians 3 18Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. 19For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. 20And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain. 21Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours Do you honestly think that the early Christians believe this wickedness? I guess not because "progressive Christianity" has to progress from something. Progressing away from the words of Christ.

[@safe_zone3064]

She literally blasphemes and uses Gods name in vein at 8:19. If you think that this woman is Christian you are blind. She will NOT enter the Kjngdom of God

[@debm3716]

Agreed!

[@danielrisk5731]

Ever read Romans 1; 26-32 where the GOD of "In God We Trust" ( Americas national motto since 1959 and the GOD you name your you tube channel after ) specifically addresses same sex behavior question mark ! Do you want me to quote what GOD says in his Word the Bible or do you care question mark ! Well here goes anyway ; Verse 27 "And likewise also the men leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one for another ; men with men working that which is unseemly and receiving in themselves that recompense of error which was meet". Verse 28 " And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge God gave them over to a reprobate mind to do those things which are not convenient ".Verse 29 " Being filled with all unrighteousness : fornication; maliciousness full of envy; murder; debate ; deceit ; malignity; whisperers...... Verse 32 " Who knowing the judgment of GOD that they that commit such things are worthy of death not only do the same but have pleasure in them that do them " . Romans 1; 26-32 Gods Word the Bible ! Now tell me God is okay with LGBT behavior now !

[@MusicalRaichu]

rom 1 is irrelevant. it basically says that idolatrous roman males did shameful things. it's not about loving relationships based on secsual orientation, it's something with less than superficial similarity.

[@debm3716]

Well said! ✝️

[@annaspeaksout2964]

I believe that if two gay people get married, they shouldn't have surrogate or donor sperm children, because that is child abuse. I know that's not what happened here, but it makes me think of it.

[@bajbhdkn]

Keep your homophobic BS to yourself.

[@playingpossum9656]

you look like you would’ve had to sell your hair and teeth on the street a couple centuries ago

[@redtailarts101]

How is that child abuse?

[@annaspeaksout2964]

@@redtailarts101 How is it not child abuse to engineer a child just because YOU want one, just to make them grow up with another person who has no relation to them and probably never get to even know their other biological parent? That's messed up. Also, the child would not get to have the healthy, natural balance of male and female energy in their parents that is meant to be poured into them.

[@redtailarts101]

@@annaspeaksout2964 HOW the actual FUCK is that child abuse by ANY definition? They're with loving and caring parents. There's absolutely NOTHING abusive or even BAD at all about not knowing your biological parent. Family has NOTHING to do with biological relation. Many children will find out they're a product of cheating and still consider their non-biological father to be their dad because he raised them and loves them. Many kids actually want NOTHING TO DO with their biological parents because they're awful people. NO kid needs their biological parents and there's nothing abusive about surrogates or sperm donors. "How is it not child abuse" because there's nothing abusive about it. Period. Fucking maniac

[@NoButIGotCheezWhiz]

Wait, other liberal Christians exist???