Commander but Mafia | Big Deck Energy | Kingdoms

[@RiviaCS]

I thinks this format needs some kind of "the joker", that wins by dying first. So the bandits can fake being the joker and do damage to the king at the start..

[@IamAllano]

Nah, someone just needs to openly say "i am the bandit" and go for a king early instead of wasting 95% of the game killing each other with 0 info.

[@timrustle6114]

@@IamAllano Yea, can't they just team up with the Usurper and make it a 3v2? Why would they even need to hide?

[@cptswiftbeard7791]

Jester role!

[@grantharrison918]

@@IamAllano The way my group plays is that there is a Jester and only one bandit. The bandit wants to kill everyone but the king. We also have a rule that if the king kills the guard first, then the king loses. This stops the king from randomly killing anyone and needing to make better decisions.

[@altejoh]

Could be the Swamp as well, very fitting. Could bring it up to a 6 player format?

[@AsuraBoss]

“Oh boy, new Skill Check! What new commanders are we seeing today?” *Bristly Bill appears* “Oh. Well.”

[@12jacobmar]

Best commander channel hands down! The variety in games is amazing!

[@boblatte123]

Yeah, i just love the variety of bristley bill and 3/4 other commanders

[@rj2282]

Ryan is just the goat, I live vicariously through him

[@dylanmahoney4889]

Such a wholesome guy

[@that1kiduwu475]

🥵🥵🥵

[@xcross08x]

Trueee

[@joshreurink1913]

41:49 Arron has the biggest Freudian slip admitting his role and NO ONE NOTICED

[@Bernard0M]

He said that he thought Ryan was the knight like 20 min into the video. It was pretty established he was a bandit early on😂

[@masonwilliams692]

Charlie and Matt get so heated at eachother lmao 😂

[@finnhillman1303]

3 things will forever be true, death, taxes, and Aaron always playing bristley bill

[@GemBMs]

They were so concerned with being found out as not being the knight that they never even tried to win.

[@AdamantAlex]

The dynamic between the swarm lord being the king an being protected by the BUG GOD is a great coincidence.

[@ShinyWyvern]

Loving seeing the boys progress in game knowledge, Chase didn't have to be corrected about the double usage of shadow in the warp @57:40 he noted it himself before it mattered and fixed it. Nothing wrong with making mistakes in MTG but the ability to detect and rectify them yourself shows real improvement. Great vid!

[@DrownedBoyProductions]

Thank you guys for providing some of the most fun Magic content to grace the internet, I'm always looking forward to the next upload!

[@x1shine1x]

That scarab print is beautiful omg

[@Equisitte]

Fr its hard to get too because its one of the masterpieces from Hour of Devastation

[@dragonlorddc16]

​@@Equisitte Thank god for proxies

[@GothamKnight-hsw4vx526430]

​@Equisitte yea, those are called invocations or incantation I think?

[@MoonkaCake]

Charlie is right. Matt's logic about him being the night then saying any three of us over here could be the night makes no sense.

[@franniebear2676]

Knight*

[@Araumii]

i'm pretty sure its on purpose

[@kevinluttrell1885]

Not sure if you guys will read this (or care), but hear me out. The usurper should have the objective to be the last man standing. The king and his knight win by killing the bandits and the usurper. The userper benefits by pretending to be the knight until he is one on one with the king, and then defeating them to win. It is a role that requires the longest gameplay to win, but it also is sought after because they conduct the craziest shenanigans. If you want to include the monarch mechanic, you can have the king become monarch on their second upkeep (asuming the king goes first). Also, if you kill a bandit or usurper, you are rewarded by drawing 3 cards (or some similar boon). If the king kills the knight, they discard their hand as punishment (or something smilar). These rules adjustments shift players incentive with their decisions because they add clearly defined consequences. Idk if you guys will play this variant again. I hope you do. This is a way of play that I think is very interesting, and useful for play groups that tend to have extra people that would rather play than be a spectator for an hour or more. Love this video and the goofy gameplay that you guys provide!

[@D-Skotes]

My GOAT Matt's got this one for sure

[@albinoeeel6844]

Fr Matt’s the goat

[@edwardlasso3092]

Bandit hits the King for 13 damage... King later asks him "were you the Knight?" (Facepalm)

[@SushiElemental]

Yeah what kind of knights is he hanging around with?

[@MeatyKage]

BRISTLY BILL IS BACK

[@RoyalCrimson]

I built a bristly bill deck because of them lmao

[@th3s4lm0n]

bristly bill is the real king here

[@Lord_Leech]

Alter of the Brood triggers off of all permanents including lands. Also Chase's enchantment pinged everyone for 2 damage on only the 1st non creature spell cast each turn.

[@Equisitte]

Charlie kicked butt with that scarab god deck

[@TheGroog]

5 player commander games usually take a long time, im glad there's a format that kind of accounts for that and makes it a bit more interesting to play

[@egbert5871]

also an assassin role or something that wants to be the last player alive

[@jeremygoslin8864]

One way I play is you can only attack the 2 people across the board from you until it’s 4 people, then play 4 player but it’s so much faster

[@urgrim1657]

My favorite to play is "star" when we are 5 (without color restrictions)

[@TheGroog]

@@urgrim1657 ooo whats that?

[@urgrim1657]

@@TheGroog so each player is a branch of a 5 branches star, and you have to kill the opposite branches, players next to you are kind of your allies, but they have to kill each others because they are opposite of each others, it opens some pretty fun politics and stuff

[@Rocknoob49]

I love the "i have one mana open, am not gonna play anything more but also don't pay the one" move. It's very royal

[@Rocknoob49]

also pretty funny of Matt to say "i think his deck is better than ours" after letting charlie draw like 25 cards

[@JumboBog320]

Havent seen the episode yet but Chase if you like the tyranid deck you should absolutely switch commander to Magus Lucea Kane. It is a bonkers x spells enabler which a lot the tyranids are. Edit: if you run untapping cards it goes real hard and a lot of fun

[@ArseAllowance]

The commander swap goes so crazy with this deck

[@Fluffy8679]

Came to say this

[@THEFLIGHTCREW5]

STOP PLAYING YOUR LAND BEFORE BILL OMG

[@1Myojin]

holy crap i forgot abt kingdoms!!! played it years ago at my lgs, tons of fun

[@Jistarii]

I wish I had friends like this to play with. Love your guys channel and best MTG Commander games by far, non of the scripted BS from other channels. Also more shock collar commander, ramp it up.

[@renzcasipe9249]

I'm just here as a Matt enjoyer

[@ThePicko94]

I loved the start to this, the banter was top notch!!

[@faisalalnabolsi9324]

Reallly love the variations of commander you run, very nicely player guys :D

[@jamesday8292]

Charlie knew who they were the whole time!!!

[@voidlessvoid420]

Matt being the usurper and playing Krenko is great

[@AlexTheSpoon]

This idea is brilliant love watching yall play thanks for the content and laughs

[@Ninjaprofit]

This was so fun. Y’all played the game beautifully. This might top sharpie cube as my favorite

[@nicholaskralik5395]

Really enjoyed this format. Hoping to see more of these 5 mans

[@loganusher591]

Love this for 5 man Commander! I totally agree there needs to be 1 more role so theres a hint of unknown and I think a Jester roll would fit very well trying to get themselves killed first!

[@oddball5633]

THIS IS WHAT COMMANDER NEEDS

[@Shark_feet]

I want more of this format

[@Rocknoob49]

31:49 this feels like the youngins talking about how much fun playing war is, while grandpa (me) sits there with flashbacks from his time in the trenches (war of the spark standard)

[@alecchavez5384]

Shadow in the warp only triggers for the first of each type per turn, so the card was doing way more damage than it should and reduced multiple spells in a turn, which it's not supposed to do. I guess it's just kingly privilege, lol

[@kingjinendra6521]

Rhystic Study owners should use a bell everytime it triggers instead of repeating "Are you paying the 1"? lol

[@blemski]

Emperor with 6 is a good alternate game mode too. Its 3 v 3 each side has an emperor in the middle and a lieutenant on each side. The Lt can only attack the player adjacent to them so they have to take the Lt across from them out before you can start attacking the emperor. Plus the emperor can pass the Lt's blockers and attackers on his turn or save them for himself.

[@1nval1dnam3]

00:05:13 - why he did not tap the island to play the solring, to tap the solring to then play the creature is beyond my reason.

[@Wotansfogal]

Probably new to mtg, so inexperience. At 12:05 for example he plays a forest and then casts his commander Bill instead of casting it first and then play his land for the landfall trigger.

[@IfYouNeedAnEdge]

Our playgroup also plays with Swamp as Assassain, who has to kill the king like the bandit, but everyone else has to be dead first

[@emilyroush3652]

came for the game, stayed because i saw aaron wearing that microwave long sleeve and subsequently lost my mind. a man with taste

[@zmuse]

Aaron spoiling what he is by saying "the other" and he knew it and turned bright red haha 41:30

[@lastnamefirstname8655]

hope skill check plays more kingdoms commander! and maybe even with 6 players next time!

[@KingdomsTV]

Did you call? Oh, different Kingdoms. >< Great episode, maybe we will have to try this variant sometime too.

[@metalona1216]

This was awesome! Will be fun to see another!

[@ThatSalmonGuy]

Matt said "magic is my safe space" and I felt that.

[@louden_clear]

This was a great group in this video, a lot easier to watch

[@feverpyretic]

This game mode is awesoime and I would love to see more.

[@wpgd]

Combining Town of Salem and Magic is actually such an insanely good idea WE NEED THAT FORMAT 😭😭

[@greglemrow3917]

Matt really hit the "Nonononono,waiwaitwaitWAIT!" at the end there lol

[@jeffcorder5898]

Its so funny how fast they call everyones roles in the beginning

[@Applesauzified]

If you guys are doing more variants of commander, I beseech you to do treasure cruise simply for the chaos it can cause by going digging for treasure

[@KarpetBurn]

This is a really cool idea for a gamemode, but it seems impossible for the bandits or usurper to win because everyone wants to be percieved as the Knight... gotta come up with something that allows them to attack the King and Knight without immediately revealing themselves as villains.

[@raggamuffinman8810]

Pizza is ready and the boys upload, life is good!

[@WilliamPalumbo-q8x]

i need more of this, please for the love of god do more of this

[@gkubie8726]

Would love to see more of this format lol

[@ColeHarvey14]

This variant rocks, would love to see more

[@LizardKingttv]

more of this please very entertaining love it

[@AhNobody]

This format is actually cool

[@felgrand9012]

Could add a “Advisor” or “Kings hand” role which would be known information alongside the king where if a player falls under a certain health threshold the advisor knows that players role but can’t tell anybody and can only act on the information, to make it more of a 3v3

[@joeshmo12]

Love this format. MORE MORE!!

[@Stainhall]

scarab god is the second commander i ever ran and krenko was my third god thats nostalgic. i havent played magic in so long

[@chlorosofor]

This sounds like a card name called BANG! One of my favourite card games during my childhood. Still play it with my relatives when we meet. Idk if there is any other soul alive that has played this game but damn do I have some great memories with that one Also finally seeing one of you play a wh40k deck really makes me happy

[@TheMrDanSan]

the king not having permanent Monarch is a missed opportunity

[@lastnamefirstname8655]

kingdoms is such a fun commander variant format!

[@MephilesRider]

Yeeeeeeeeeah, Tyranid representation! WHAT THE HECK IS A TWO ARMED EMPEROR LETS GOOO!

[@TM27156]

The bandits actually could of won at the end. Ryan's Jeska's will should of resolved 3 times from being copied twice which means 24 mana for comet storm so 21 damaged kicked would be 42 to Chase exactly

[@caocao4781]

you can't pick the same target for a kicked comet storm, it says "another target"

[@liamnoa4594]

Can we get more of this? Probably my fav video you guys have done

[@joshuamartin1877]

I can already feel the matt dub, He shall usurp the pretender king!

[@totsugekiii]

I hope Chase getting into Nids and stuff means we can see a 40k battle report in the future

[@bipidyboo1274]

Aaron is wearing a very good shirt. Much Love.

[@OxTheMighty]

Please do more of this its fantastic.

[@kaiosocki1108]

I'D LOVE TO SEE MORE KINGDOM !!!

[@ZAD3N0]

Love this format love it, susssy commander!

[@thepimpingamer2455]

The greatest game of gaslighting the king ever 🤣

[@Ozymandias_X]

28:06 the aslan line 🤌

[@Jamesaw15]

i pulled that very same masterpiece scarab god when i opened a HoD box it was beautiful

[@Tiax776]

Never heard of this Commander format but seems interesting. You could also try the Planechase thingy at some point. Also, wasn't Charlie's board empty when he played F-Bag so he should've sacrificed the F-Bag also.

[@annex1017]

Yes I think it could use a game rule* each player must attack each turn, for each land played each turn it pays tax of 1 colorless mana to the king, or the kings deck is a wall deck and has no way to attack since it’s the only role known and has to barter with the other players

[@void91g]

The only 5+pod is the gimmicks types I like, nver regular 😂❤🎉

[@darkcloudreborn]

Charlie could have proven he was the knight so quickly by not drawing if Chase didnt pay. Lmaoo

[@RichieDcik]

Man, Arron's ordering early game gave me dementia.

[@thenumbertrenton]

God I fucking love Kingdom, instant like boys!

[@pockettrigger]

Having watched the video completely I want to share my thoughts on this format and give some (hopefully) constructive criticism to help this format flourish: 1. from a baseline I think having 3 "evil" roles and 2 "good" roles makes this unbalanced and should lead to either bandits or the usurper winning every game by rolling over the king. The boys in this game definitely played this game way more passive than it needed to and I think realistically past the early game once Krenko gets going, ganging up and killing the king just ends the game in a few turns regardless of what Chase and Charlie did. 2. To remedy this I would do one of 2 things, both focused on reducing the "2v3" problem and introducing 'neutral' rolls like Jester or Survivor (if anyone has played ToS think of those roles) that have different win conditions outside of what happens to the king (jester dying first, survivor living until final 2 players). If you wanted to keep to 5 rolls total and always have 1 of everything I would just replace the 2nd bandit with the Jester and it would make the game more interesting. If you want to take this format further adding a 2nd neutral role such as Survivor would lead to a larger variety of games to happen with there being a chance to not have a role like knight or usurper. 3. In the case that you add more than 5 roles, rolling a die to decide who gets king would lead to less rerolling. The king is always public knowledge anyway so it doesn't affect the game. 4. Considering creating a specific themed deck for the king to play that has a larger than usual amount of removal and pillowforty type effects (ghostly prison, propaganda, etc). The first commander that came to mind to me was 'The Council of Four', azorius deck that makes tokens and draws cards and can even generate more value if the knight plays into it. I enjoyed this video a lot and would like to see more of this and other alternative formats like this in the future. This is very quickly becoming one of my favourite Magic channels to watch

[@bluestrikerx3033]

I can feel it, Matt will finally win a game

[@AlaskaFG]

Another variant game other than this or Star Magic, is Secret Partners. Deal out a Mountain, Red Spell, Island, Blue Spell and an Artifact. Those with lands flip them face up, they now know who is not on their team and can swing at each other. The Red and Blue spell players know who their secret partners are and can help them as they see fit. The Artifact is the Lone Wolf and has to win just like in Kingdoms. You can choose to flip up cards as players are knocked out or not. Teams win if even 1 person survives until the end, if both teammates are knocked out that team loses. Doing it this way incentivizes attacking and still some politics (lands know they are against each other, face down cards also know they are against each other; only attacking across those lines could reveal information). Of course the game is ruined if one face down player verbally reveals what card they have, so try not to be that person.

[@kaiosocki1108]

I LOVE THIS!

[@ADeliberateTypo]

they looked at commander and said "what if it was amongus"

[@annex1017]

Or another format of kingdoms, *Madking* where the knight has to protect the king but has to take him out in the end lol

[@Rantheracoon]

Yes more of this, i wil wach all of this!

[@blakenorton1608]

charlie seems super fun to play with

[@Choooooooooch]

this game type is so much fun

[@ghostkill221]

Love these games! I hope you guys check out the new Archenemy commander format!

[@zachadsit5095]

Need that aegar decklist now!

[@RTPcomputerboy1231]

need more of this !!!!

[@diegofernandez8981]

I think if there is a monarch mechanic with being the king on top of the extra health. But they are alone.the others are in teams of two for the other 4 lands; (u)surper with a (b)andit and conquerer with a knight. (Idk of a relevant name with a color but it would be nice) and it can be a 6 person game if you include wastes as a true wildcard just wants the king dead or kings ally

[@Iceqake]

More like this please!

[@5inso344]

I got a pretty baller morph deck that I would love to see how it fairs vs some of the Skill Check's play group XD