Commander Overperformers: Cards That Are Better Than They Look

[@GravityB2]

I think you guys missed another reason why Reprieve totally rules, and its that you can save your own spells on the stack. If you play your cheap commander or combo finisher and someone plays counterspell? Well then, just Reprieve your own spell to your hand, draw a card, and the counter can fizzle, maybe you can even replay it that same turn. There's also the edge cases where it can "counter" something uncounterable, in the way Remand cannot.

[@pretty_fly_for_a_jeskai]

Exactly, saying not to run Reprieve with access to blue is a little short sighted imo. I run it in my most control focused Kykar build because I already have like... 5 other counterspells. Reprieve actually feels modal in saving your own stuff on the stack while cantriping while also still hosing a late game play.

[@punkypinko2965]

Awesome tip. Thanks! I just built a Baral deck and I have Remand. I haven't played it yet, but I didn't think about countering my own spell to save it. Nice. Maybe I should hold onto Remand if possible in order to protect my own spells ... hmmm .... Now that I think about it, I could save someone else's spell too and play politics.

[@charmishing]

It also disrupts momentum. If a game is moving fast enough, they might need to prioritize other things just to not fall behind.

[@jongailey85]

Don’t forget the Approach of the Second Sun interaction either. Reprieve can be used to return it to hand and either win next turn or that very turn if you have enough mana.

[@sharkmanyt4431]

@@GravityB2 it’s just a better remand, remand isn’t very good but reprieve is white so it’s great

[@makeout_hill]

Wow, Teferi’s veil is going straight into my Zur deck. Not sure how I missed that enchantment for so long!!

[@guillermobanosflores7331]

I been using amphibious downpour since the beginning and it’s always been soooooo good

[@JeffreyGoddin]

When I opened on in the prerelease it sure seemed strong. I cast a little spell, and now this nukes two of your things? Nice!

[@skeetermaverick1793]

I used it in my Marvel Storm deck and ruined the day of an Eldrazi deck.

[@daneburke6592]

I play it in my marneus calgar deck because the storm copies come in as tokens which will each trigger Marneus to draw me cards and it’s just a great way to slow down decks that rely on their commander which is most of them

[@jayjayhooksch1]

Not shockingly, but it is also really good in my Clement frog tribal deck; you can put the original copy on one of your own non-frog creatures to turn them into a mana dork. Additionally the frog deck is based around bouncing permanents, so you can get the Downpour back again later to use again.

[@ryanbliss827]

Teferi's veil user here, this card is also amazing for any card that makes tokens that leave at the end of turn. They phase out and then you don't have to sacrifice, key example is araumi

[@Shimatzu95]

Came here to say that, used to play it in a deck with a bunch of kikijiki-like cloning but ended up cutting it because of how annoying it is to interact with 😅

[@SaltServingServo]

Teferi's veil user here. Love it on sedris. Unearth, swing and keep the creature until someone has a way to get rid of it. :)

[@randomguy6232]

As a sedris player I have creatures that would otherwise be exiled at the end of turn and teferi's veil is perfect for keeping big threats around past their due date

[@xccoaster]

I'm in love with Dragonhawk. I built a deck with him as my commander and he is so deceptive. Often times you are building a wall of 4 power creatures with little impact, maybe dropping Descent into Avernus. Most people aren't afraid until he actually comes down, then they are like oh....thats a problem. But hopefully everyone else has other issues. Also Witch's Clinic is nuts if he stays out and also extra combat triggers

[@joedominguez8064]

Trouble in Pairs triggering on 2nd card draw is what pushes it over the edge that the other similar cards didn’t have . My buddy’s mono white angel deck ended up outdrawing the table off this thing 😂

[@tygiffin8131]

One of my favorite Magic moments ever involved Amphibian Downpour. That card was on the stack for literally an hour. My wife texted me when it went on the stack and then called later when the game ended and it was 1 hour.

[@randymotter51]

Funny interaction I saw with Trouble in Pairs last week, someone played Chance for Glory while it was out and skipped that extra turn, meaning they would not lose and since the indestructible it gives is not till the end of turn, he had perma indestructible on those creatures for two mana (cast through Sunforger). Won him the game.

[@caseywellington4761]

Woah that's cool

[@voidprism_studios666]

Funny story about Teferi's Veil. I ran it in Zur the enchanter and not in a heavy creature deck. It phased out and someone got a Nicol Bolas and ulted the "If an opponent doesn't have a legendary creature or pw they lose." I ended up losing lol

[@Mirvana]

If you dig Malevolent Rumble and Cache Grab in your decks, I highly recommend Grapple With the Past if you're not already running it. You only mill 3 cards for 1G, but you can rebuy any creature or land in your yard, not just the ones the spell milled.

[@TheTexasDice]

it's also an instant, which is great.

[@Shimatzu95]

The radstorm bit was the perfect explanation as to why most tables dont want to play with poison OR storm. Personally i dont particulary mind either as long as the storm player doesn't take a 15 minute turn 😅 though i probably have yet to win a game against a fynn deck.

[@erichunt1974]

New players never ever expect two measly 1/1 goblins to potentially spiral exponentially into potentially infinite 1/1 goblins so if I ever had to pick a commander who overperforms I'd go with Krenko, Mob Boss.

[@thegreatestblood]

So your criteria of a commander who overperforms is based off the expectations of new players? Idk if that's a good metric tbh.

[@pennywise-ug7sv]

While i agree with your sentiment krenko is infact one of the strongest and most notorious mono red commanders​@thegreatestblood

[@thegreatestblood]

@@pennywise-ug7sv you’re right. So how is it overlooked? Since it’s one of the strongest and most notorious mono red commanders?

[@pennywise-ug7sv]

@thegreatestblood i would not say it is overlooked at all. i honestly think the commander is bad because it is so well-known that people are hostile to you from turn 0. But the original statement, both from your comment, his comment, and the video is "overperforms" which krenko is definitely a overperformer as it wins the game in a multitude of ways essentially by itself

[@charmishing]

I’d say it’s somewhat overlooked. A decent chunk of people I know haven’t faced off against a krenko. And those who haven’t tend to underestimate what he can do at least in my experience.

[@Tyroar78]

I run Teferi's Veil in my Araumi of the Dead Tide deck. You can phase out your encore creatures after they attack and they will stay on the field after they phase in!

[@thetommonster]

I do this as well. It's actually better than Sundial of the Infinite in that kind of deck.

[@kris834]

@@thetommonster yeah I still like both in there though.

[@ZidaneTribal1989]

Dragonhawk is in my Miirym Deck. Now, to combine it with Twinflame Tyrant.

[@aggrend]

“I order too much food at restaurants” and “I have to eat the remaining food” is the most instantly relatable quippy intro.

[@RobotDCLXVI]

I think there isn't that much remaining.

[@pretty_fly_for_a_jeskai]

I actually put Amphibian Downpour into my Clement The Worrywort oops all frogs deck because it seemed thematically appropriate, played it on turn 6 in a game during a spell slingers end step with a storm count of... 8. Everyones board got nuked. Felt mean but I got carried away, but immediately understood the power on that one. Radstorm sounds incredibly nasty in superfriends, can change the math on multiple planeswalkers at literally instant speed and it's oops, all emblems. I love love love instant speed storm cards for just destroying a wheels spinner when it's appropriate but Radstorm changes math so quickly in the right deck it's pretty crazy

[@igyl2867]

love seeing glimpse, dragonhawk, and malevolent rumble on here, all cards ive been loving for a while, especially glimpse does not get at all enough credit for being able to put stuff in the grave too

[@thatguyintherain3168]

Payday today, so will use your link to order my first Pauper deck and maybe that Budget Eluge list you made. Love your channel guys!

[@ammarmubeen6524]

I run dragon hawk in my Eris Roar of the storm deck and it puts in so much work

[@taa347]

Cordial vampire is a genuine PROBLEM in my Clavileno deck. The trigger stacking can work such that you sacrifice or have an infected creature die, the 4/3 flier comes in and then also gets pumped by cordial. It's super gross and basically ends games on its own if it isn't dealt with quickly. And even then you kind of have to exile it

[@kirkebel2194]

My friend has a Witch King deck and yeah it’s surprisingly strong. Mono black devotion with indestructible tricks and a smidge of reanimate package.

[@xanderjones6239]

Witch King is in my Sauron the dark lord deck. I just took the precon, replaced the commander, and upgraded it with cards for the main set, and that Witch king is NO JOKE. Sticks around, and gives you tempts. The discard you can pitch reanimator targets, and that card is great.

[@TheAngelRaven]

Jeska's Will isn't really comparable to other 'Exile X cards off the top' effects when you're playing it to almost ALWAYS get the mana and cards.

[@Beckola44]

That Teferi's Veil is a cool card. I really like Cordial Vampire, Radstorm, and Trouble In Pairs. Thank you Mia and Beezy for the video.

[@SolidFoxHoundSF]

I use teferis veil in Mishra Eminent One. It lets you keep the copies of the artifacts you make for another turn since they can’t sac at end of turn.

[@pyroshadow33]

had a game where i had to chew through 5 counterspells in one turn where I wanted to clear the opponent's board and being able to still gimp it at the end with such a huge storm of the frog card was great

[@voidprism_studios666]

I've been debating trying Amphibian Downpour in my cedh zur deck. Getting a high storm count is easy. Creatures are more impactful. Shutting off commanders momentarily is still good enough for a huge tempo hit even if opponents agree to trade their now 1/1's. It's fetchable. Its cheap. Its instant speed. Whats not to like. Prison type effects are highly underrated.

[@maxmartrich4907]

I had no idea that Teferi card existed, my Basim and Satya decks are going to love this!

[@Era5erhead]

Cool cards, nice takes! Some where new to me so thanks for the video!

[@mrpandabites]

I have loved Amphibian Downpour since it was spoiled. Despite putting it in three of my decks I haven't had a chance to actually play it yet. I'm glad to hear that it plays as well as I thought it would.

[@augustobs24]

You’re right on point with Radstorm. I play it in a Dimir Spellslinger poison deck as my finisher. What’s awesome about Radstorm for Poison is that getting a 2-10 spell storm count is just super doable. It is consistent like Tendrils of Agony is consistent for 20 life 1v1 formats.

[@hanschristopherson8056]

For amphibian downpour people forget storm includes your opponents spells

[@doktarr]

I can't believe anyone would underrate that card. I thought it was a super banger the moment I saw it.

[@joshuadunham3018]

If you're playing with multiple combat steps in a row, does Teferi's Veil phase out everything that attacked at the end of the first combat, or when the last combat step ends and you are about to enter the next main phase?

[@decentparks3597]

I love reprieve so much I even play it in blue decks as the 12 counterspell. There are plenty times when you simply do not have blue mana

[@Gages-wd1hl]

Ah yes, amphibian downpour. I think you were talking about the game we played in Vegas when you said it was too strong. But I think you are right that it is slept on

[@olivierdebilde4292]

Teferi's veil is so awesome. It handles end of combat/turn sacrifice triggers (decayed, copies,...). It allows one side board wipe. It protects your board and your voltron commander. It's FAN-TAS-TIC ! Phasing is underrated in EDH. Kuddos to Beezy for building Gut. I just finished mine Yesterday and it's a super rare commander 🎉🎉

[@eveninghat8715]

I recently picked up a trouble in pairs for my god eternal oketra deck and it's really good. Only trouble is I try to buy local to support the community when I can and out of 4 stores I went to look for a copy none of them had one.

[@Wojtek36762]

Great set of cards! Probably should pick up at least one Trouble in Pairs before it gets any pricier. I’ve been working Glimpse the Impossible into decks, it’s especially cool in Narset, Enlightened Exile, where I want to fill my graveyard, and the spawn tokens get prowess so they could even potentially swing in later. Currently trying out Amphibian Downpour in almost every blue deck, haven’t gotten to cast it yet. Gonna try Dragonhawk in Henzie.

[@awboqm]

I have a monarch council of four deck and I really want a trouble in pairs. It’s a mangara and faerie mastermind in one that also stops extra turns. It’s nuts

[@No_Lucks_Given]

Amphibious downpour is in my Kykar deck. When I use it, I become the target immediately. It's hilarious.

[@gemkid85]

I use Teferi's veil in my infect deck. It has singlehandedly won me games because your army avoids sorcery speed board wipes.

[@Enzo_Gabriel_Plus_king]

8:08 A cat's butthole being represented with a blue mana symbol is pretty accurate...

[@IamBradofEarth]

I’m currently building Valgavoth terror eater, I wonder if this would be good in the deck.

[@luisibarra9482]

Reprieve is so underrated For 2 mana to basically have a flicker on your own creature and a counter spell WHITE instant

[@Thaelkor]

Moonsliver Key is an insane card that is probably one of the best cards in the format.

[@markpro012]

Which king has become my fav deck I’ve ever built. Extremely underrated

[@holyjoey]

Dragon Hawk is the truth in my Master, multiplied deck. Having the master out, playing dragon hawk, with haste, or without, accidentally hits a twin flame, molten duplication, electroduplicate, saw in half, etc. More than likely game over!

[@ChrisLovesYahweh]

Amphibian downpour is nuts in my master of keys deck

[@treetheoak8313]

Teferi's viel is a near MVP in my xyris deck. I usually just attack with him and him phasing out protects him until he needs to attack on my next turn. Avoided a lot of boardwipes thanks to that card.

[@edwardtravis903]

"amphibian downpour", the 6 cards for 2 mana or less that also do a similar effect, and fact if it sticks on a commander that they cant recast it. I wouldnt sleep on this type of effect, nothing is more effective than trying to convince the board to kill u commander so u can recast it, or having to waste removal on ur own commander. So in my eyes its tech better removal. Side note: "storm" extremely hard to counter downpour is almost guaranteed to land without counterplay, you also have to counter the storm copys independently.

[@im_Tsu]

Radstorm is my finisher in my Chun-Li Infect Deck. Can confirm. Kills people instantly out of no where all the time.

[@nickq8093]

I'm not sure why you guys are saying there's chance involved when people attack into someone with the witch king on the board. The effect isn't random, the player who attacked in chooses the creature to sac

[@danielhavens8819]

trouble in pairs can ~theoretically~ draw you 27 cards in a four person turn cycle

[@brendans1983]

So it could kill me in 3 turns? Hard pass, card's trash

[@No_Lucks_Given]

​@@brendans1983If you draw a quarter of your deck before your turn and you don't at least set up a win, then you're deck is shit. Haha

[@HollowdTV]

@@brendans1983lmaooo my man said “more cards? Sounds awful” like bro if having more cards is a bad thing that means your deck sucks

[@Shimatzu95]

​@@No_Lucks_Givennot everyone plays combo decks or instant win cards/effects. Persinally i also prefer games to not just "end" because someone drew 20 cards. #battlecruisermtg is best mtg

[@No_Lucks_Given]

@@Shimatzu95 If you have 25 cards in your hand and there's not a bunch of combos in it I hate to break it to you but that's just a bad deck. If you don't want to have a card that draws you a bunch of stuff that's fine but it seems like your deck consists of just a bunch of magic cards that happen to have the same colors with no rhyme or reason. You can still be casual with a decent deck.

[@cedarbobedar7223]

if you want to donk somebody playing Teferi's Veil or Teferi's Protection, check out Sands of Time lol I've been gradually working on a phasing control subtheme for one of my decks and I'm pretty sure that's the only way to "interact" with a phased out board

[@Hashbrown1682]

You guys gonna do those underrated commanders and interesting deck builds like beezy used to do with joe cherries?

[@careyd21]

Showed up for the insight, stayed for the kitty

[@IrrelevantGeOff]

Finally some Teferi’s Veil appreciation!

[@L1GHTGAMING]

My 13th Doctor & Yasmin Khan deck welcomed Dragon Hawk with open arms

[@njsification]

Reprieve targets uncounterable spells. Its absolutely playable in blue decks.

[@louisoncolin6025]

If you like Amphibian downpour that much maybe look into Asinine Antics for enchantress board wipes 😎

[@tylerlittleton6140]

I agree with dragonhawk. He’s the head of my mono red deck and he’s basically kill on site

[@bongatumtum]

Welp, just ordered me a Teferi's Veil. Good video, nerds!

[@aricross3258]

I was all in on reprieve the second I looked at spoilers

[@mrurameshi9433]

Glimpse the Impossible definitely overperforms in my Magnus the Red

[@Faja629]

LOL I introduced Alan to Teferi's veil

[@dankoerner887]

A Downpour is such a grear card!

[@alexliang1040]

Play Nykthos with amphibian downpour for extra groans from the table

[@EastonSavage]

Welp, Teferi's Veil is going into Captain America for me now.

[@dougiedoug7543]

25:47 this might be CEDH?

[@andreabasso9278]

No Mercy works with all damage, not just combat damage (so it destroy pingers ecc.. as well)

[@metalblizzard6024]

Reprieve was one of my favorite spoilers for LoTR because I love remand and I love playing orz/sel/naya

[@hanschristopherson8056]

Teferi’s veil is gas, you weren’t even going to block with those creatures anyway just pure upside

[@huggernaut55]

Ha, this made me remember the whole storm scale thing 🤣

[@MegaMania91]

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[@marcusgarcia4343]

Teferi’s veil is such an overperformer in my Araumi deck. All the encore copies don’t get sacrificed.

[@potatoesandgravyyy]

Trouble in pairs is just a performer lol

[@OdinMagnus]

I like Time Stop :) It stops storm

[@naterambles8525]

As someone who loves Nekusar, i hope all of you play Trouble in Pairs. Please, draw more cards. Draw them to death.

[@Aspect22406]

BEZZY...is it possible to Make unlimited mana and break Phildagrif?

[@jackstrawFW]

Teferis veil is extremely good

[@danieldragotti2608]

I play dragonhawk in bello. I frequently burn for 12 or more.

[@danielgoldberg2129]

Cool fact, Teferi’s Veil turns off Witchking’s static ability.😂

[@joshuadunham3018]

Does it? The Witchking doesn't say whether it's before or after combat is over that the attacking player has to sacrifice, merely that it's when they do damage. So if the creature had first strike/double strike then Veil doesn't stop his static ability, but if it's normal combat damage then maybe it does. Unfortunately it doesn't look like there's an official ruling on this.

[@brendans1983]

Don't think it does mate. Witch King triggers in damage step of combat, Veil in the end of combat step. Separate triggers in separate steps.

[@danielgoldberg2129]

My point was the effect of Phasing. It Phases out and is “gone” until your next Untap Step, so if you attack with it you don’t get it’s ability for a whole cycle around the table. It’s a great blocker but you don’t want to attack with it with Teferi’s Veil in play.

[@joshuadunham3018]

@danielgoldberg2129 ah, that makes sense lol

[@djisawesome2211]

Just found out storm doesn’t just count your own spells

[@brennanmohr7348]

Teferi’s vale is absolutely ridiculous.

[@lemonsq2767]

Trouble in pairs 20€ it should perform well 😅

[@MichelleNghi]

Archangel of thude 😊😮

[@tonsofsodium6641]

Yall need to come to see that Whirlwind Denial is your lord and savior. Get rid of storm spells entirely.

[@hanschristopherson8056]

I run dragonhawk in henzie… it’s sooo busted

[@nothumanaftrall2068]

Been inconsistent about watching but what happened to Amber?

[@NitpickingNerds]

She's still around! She's in a video every once in a while

[@the_snakelicious]

No timestamps moment.

[@billsussman6554]

I had to watch this video twice. Once because I just couldn’t stop daydreaming about petting miso and the second time for quality content.

[@Misscheif777]

Babe wake up! Nerds posted

[@26ZS]

Pretty sure Dragonhawk just sold out on cardkingdom solely because of this video

[@sharkmanyt4431]

You talk about trouble in pairs as if esper sentinel doesn’t exist

[@dakezrecordz6624]

What happened to the other dude

[@leonhart483]

Boom

[@brendans1983]

If i haven't seen the card Public Enemy by the end of the video, im going to stop watching.

[@saintchronic]

💚💜

[@ttv_beefchild5967]

upload moment

[@vincent-antoinesoucy1872]

Stop talking about amphibian downpour it's almost not budget already for my budget deck!