Which Mana Rocks Should You Play in Commander? The Complete Guide

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Which mana rocks are worth playing in Commander? This is EVERYTHING you need to know!
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@crawdaddy2004
@crawdaddy2004 6 ай бұрын
28:57 It should be noted that Five Hundred Year Diary is a clue, itself. It should always tap for at least one mana.
@DashhTheOutrider
@DashhTheOutrider 6 ай бұрын
Came to the comments to say the above. Great for clue decks.
@robertthomas-ps1nn
@robertthomas-ps1nn 6 ай бұрын
is it great? im debating it. I have a morska deck and a bjorna and wergna deck@@DashhTheOutrider
@DashhTheOutrider
@DashhTheOutrider 6 ай бұрын
@@robertthomas-ps1nn with that, Urza lord high artificer, & Jaheira friend of the forest mana is a non issue in my deep clue sea deck
@theanalogkidmodular
@theanalogkidmodular 2 ай бұрын
Throw in an academy manufactor and ways to generate food or treasure tokens and FHYD scales pretty fast
@thewheelsman29
@thewheelsman29 5 ай бұрын
I actually disagree with the chromatic lantern take. I think any 4-5 color deck has it as an auto-include just because it's so good at fixing mana that it can outright make an unplayable hand playable. If you start a game with chromatic lantern and 3 lands in hand, there is nothing that you are going to draw into or not draw into where you won't be on incredibly stable footing unless your average cmc is a 6 and if that's the case, the deck has bigger problems.
@ScottieScottie-uw4xs
@ScottieScottie-uw4xs 6 ай бұрын
No love for Grim Monolith in the 2 mana section😢 I love it because it’s mana positive on its own but also combos so easily with a number of cards.
@life_kluda
@life_kluda 6 ай бұрын
Probably because it's not budget friendly over 99% cards mentioned.
@eveljkov
@eveljkov 6 ай бұрын
Easy, in order: 1. If a rock fits a decks theme or is an anagram of your name, put it in. 2. If you have a cool version of it, put it in. 3. Metalworker
@armygamelover
@armygamelover 6 ай бұрын
As someone with a Nikya of the Old Ways deck...none of them
@matthewollar9842
@matthewollar9842 6 ай бұрын
I don’t have a Nikya deck but I run it in my Affinimar deck. 35 Lands, 64 Creatures, 1 Commander.
@andrewsowl8696
@andrewsowl8696 6 ай бұрын
My Wort the Raidmother and Riku of the two Reflections (slivers) decks agree
@armygamelover
@armygamelover 6 ай бұрын
@@steamh4mmer264 but if you draw it later, it's a dead card until your commander is killed. It also isn't buffed by her ability.
@AlphaWolfHowl
@AlphaWolfHowl 6 ай бұрын
As someone with a Kinnan deck... all of them.
@TheBlastmeister
@TheBlastmeister 4 ай бұрын
@armygamelover Nikya in a proper pod is going to get killed tho. If not, you are likely going to win despite having a dead card. At least with a Sol Ring, it's going to be easier to summon Nikya or another creature after she gets inevitably destroyed.
@CanDooBU
@CanDooBU 6 ай бұрын
2 years watching Nitpicking Nerds and found out today the sign changes 😮
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 6 ай бұрын
I mean, it says so right on the sign!
@H3y_Im_Rob
@H3y_Im_Rob 6 ай бұрын
I'm not playing 0 Mana Rocks because I want to be "Mid-Powered." I'm not playing 0 Mana Rocks because I HAVE NO F**KING MONEY!! Honestly! "Hmm, should I finish my final payment for my long overdue house bill? Or get a Mana crypt?"
@Commander_Claw
@Commander_Claw 6 ай бұрын
I had a friend try to tell me his deck isn’t Power 8+ when he runs mana crypt and mana vault. He’s like it’s only 2 cards. I have him mathematical reasons and ratios. The ignorance was real when he denied it.
@firstandlast.1254
@firstandlast.1254 6 ай бұрын
If your "long overdue house bill" is $200 or less, you have bigger problems. Why aren't you paying it?
@firstandlast.1254
@firstandlast.1254 6 ай бұрын
​@Commander_Claw your friend is right. A mana crypt and a mana vault don't magically force a deck into an "8+" range. "Mathematical reasoning and ratios" don't apply.
@H3y_Im_Rob
@H3y_Im_Rob 6 ай бұрын
@@firstandlast.1254Cause Magic: the Gathering! Seriously though, I think I pretty much exposed to the world where I stand financially/what my Social Class is.
@PinkusTheRat
@PinkusTheRat 6 ай бұрын
With machine god's effigy it clones the best creature with a good passive or active ability and it's not a creature anymore since it's just an artifact with the tap for a blue ability added on to it so it can dodge creature removal. I think that makes it a bit better than where you put it. Great video overall though and sorry if this isn't the most grammatically correct comment lol.
@unreferierbar
@unreferierbar 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I love that card, I would probably still play it even if it didn't tap for U
@riverswater5688
@riverswater5688 5 ай бұрын
I really love my 6 bobble heads in my Nick Valentine deck. Fun 3 cost mana rocks with upside bonuses as activated abilities
@msolec2000
@msolec2000 5 ай бұрын
Why not 7?
@skootchk1253
@skootchk1253 6 ай бұрын
What about Everflowing Chalice and Astral Cornucopia?
@xeper9458
@xeper9458 6 ай бұрын
It's pretty clear they don't particularly like these scalable rocks that are particularly awesome in proliferate decks, which is odd since Mia said she has a poison deck where they fit quite nicely
@crawdaddy2004
@crawdaddy2004 6 ай бұрын
@@xeper9458 I disagree with this. They mentioned the rock that allows you to roll the Planar Die. Everflowing Chalice would absolutely be better than that one. I think it was just an oversight.
@xeper9458
@xeper9458 6 ай бұрын
@@crawdaddy2004 the card you are referring to is fractured power stone, which is not a scalable rock like chalice and cornucopia
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 6 ай бұрын
Everflowing Chalice fits in with all the other two mana rocks, it's pretty great and scalable. We weren't sure whether to list it as zero or two or what so it just got left out by mistake
@crawdaddy2004
@crawdaddy2004 6 ай бұрын
@@xeper9458 Right, I was using that as an example of a Rock they did mention but is not as good as Chalice, so it was probably an oversight… which they confirmed in this thread.
@robstuk1
@robstuk1 6 ай бұрын
Voltaic key and others like it are good for untapping artifacts like mana vault and basalt monolith, sol ring. Blue has lots of untap permanents.
@heecks9375
@heecks9375 6 ай бұрын
I hope it's not only for untaping mana rock because it's a waste of space.
@travislebaube7646
@travislebaube7646 Ай бұрын
Coveted jewel comes in the Silverquil Statement precon, my favorite precon. I understand why it is considered bad, but I have had fantastic success with it. Earlier game, it makes your opponent's fight over it while you build up and control. Late game, it secures your victory.
@joshuacostigan4119
@joshuacostigan4119 6 ай бұрын
I'm building a deck where Altar of the Pantheon is going to be one of the best ramp sources. A rock so bad it wasn't even mentioned 😅
@Just-a-Canuck
@Just-a-Canuck 6 ай бұрын
I knew it!!! The sign never changes!!!!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 6 ай бұрын
Or does it?
@Just-a-Canuck
@Just-a-Canuck 6 ай бұрын
🤯
@thomaspetrucka9173
@thomaspetrucka9173 Ай бұрын
Glittering Stockpile! Treasure synergies. Counter synergies. Super great late game bump! The only downside is the lack of mana fixing. I run it in most of my red decks.
@a6two
@a6two Ай бұрын
Bloomburrow added a 3 mana rock, Patchwork banner. Choose a creature type and they get +1/+1. Great for kindred decks.
@alansmithee920
@alansmithee920 6 ай бұрын
I still swear by darksteel ingot, I dont care what you guys say. My playgroup is so disenchant and wrath-happy it still pulls its weight. I hate sitting down across from a green or white deck, and they just decide to play that 3 mana disenchant bear, and they look around the board looking for the right thing to shatter. They always end up looking over at my talismans and signets, and then I have to mind rot them.
@nickchaput219
@nickchaput219 6 ай бұрын
I've been moving away from signets and Talismans. Just running more land and land ramp.
@Commander_Claw
@Commander_Claw 6 ай бұрын
I feel like it’s better to do that for starting hands ratio wise, consistency, a possibly a better card for discard or looting effects, wheel effects
@davidhower7095
@davidhower7095 6 ай бұрын
Chromatic Lantern is a mainstay in my colorless Sunburst deck because color identity rules don’t like mana symbols.
@chaserevstuning9271
@chaserevstuning9271 6 ай бұрын
I like chromatic lantern, very reliable and never worrying about tapping lands for color is nice.
@dimitriid
@dimitriid 6 ай бұрын
One thing that has really helped my decks was to make space for rituals (Both as sorceries, based on creatures or based on sacrificed rocks) instead of the mana rocks: basically got rid of all of my mana rocks that are 3 CMC or higher (I do make an exception for Decanter of Endless Water for the no-hand-limit effect) and just ended up using a lot more mana rituals and just focus on doing what needs doing right away. So while I do have some of the very cedh fast rocks in there even without them and given decent card draw and/or graveyard recursion, playing mana rituals is something commander players should get into the habit of doing instead of this unsspoken-but-implied rule zero conversations where 'We're playing casual' translates to 'Don't use fast mana so we can build up board states' Sometimes there is something to be said about cedh and being able to just resolve a commander game inside 30-40 minutes instead of inevitably turning into 1-2 hour affairs on *average* which can get tiresome at times.
@BoxOfFear
@BoxOfFear 6 ай бұрын
I like Phial of Galadriel and the Sonic Screwdriver. But I acknowledge that I might be the only one.
@thomasdawicki141
@thomasdawicki141 2 ай бұрын
Dark steel ingot goes so hard in my Prince of Kroog Deck. Just create a 1/1 indestructible copy with the commanders activated ability. It ramps mana, is hard to remove, and really can be threatening with the commanders +2/+2 anthem
@kliop123432
@kliop123432 6 ай бұрын
Five Hundred Year Diary would produce at least one blue since it's also a clue. Great guide though! :D
@Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant
@Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant 3 ай бұрын
The thing I like about any mana rock that produces 3 or more mana is that it can fairly easily combo into infinite mana.
@theanalogkidmodular
@theanalogkidmodular 2 ай бұрын
Signets are "mid" at best in the 2 Rocks. With only 2 mana available to cast them your turn is over, the upside is filtering but that is only available later. It's the same comparison as the painlands with the bad 2-color filterlands. If they made a hybrid of Signets and Talismans where you could either get a colorless or filter a colored mana into a pair of colored I'd use them in a heartbeat (i.e. the good 2-color filterlands in the comparison).
@mhare0
@mhare0 6 ай бұрын
you forgot to mention everflowing chalice in the zero mana section. I know people don't normally pay zero for it because you need to multikicker it to make it good but I think it really good.
@williamkeiser7562
@williamkeiser7562 6 ай бұрын
Sometimes green decks actually do want rocks. Just really depends on the direction you go with it. I just built yarus, and I use mana rocks as all the ramp sources for it. I also have a small colorless theme going and a talisman and signet actually stick to the board when flipped as a manifest with yarus while a nature's lore and three visits wouldn't.
@SpaceManSweeney
@SpaceManSweeney 6 ай бұрын
5:06 I don't usually comment on videos but if we're not just talking generally. I think mox tantalite and sol talisman are great in cascade decks like yidris.
@iamnotcameron
@iamnotcameron 6 ай бұрын
I only play with 3 friends fairly new to the game. But, Urtet with a Chromatic Lantern is a problem. That or Eleven Chorus is generally either a) I win, or b) I get targeted. I love lantern.
@enriquemeza5291
@enriquemeza5291 6 ай бұрын
Chromatic lantern is incredibly useful in esper zombies where 99% of your pips are black but you still want blue and white.
@Hashbrown1682
@Hashbrown1682 6 ай бұрын
With Commander's Sphere it's math Cuz is comparable to mind stone You just pay 1 for the card upfront.
@BeaglzRok1
@BeaglzRok1 6 ай бұрын
I like Thran Turbine in a Karn, Silver Golem deck because it gives you two free pops of an artifact token on your upkeep. It's not good by any stretch, but it's funny to have a couple of treasure tokens explode due to having 0 toughness, or even hit a Mox Amber in the Jodah Superlegends deck. A note about the guild signets, since I'm EXTRA casual and don't much care for including ramp when lands should be considered good enough: when I'm on 3+ colors, I prioritize the guild signets that provide the color pairs that you need. It's not bad to have an Izzet Signet in a Grixis deck, but if you have a bunch of UB-costed spells, while all of your R spells are mono-R, then having to filter mana into an Izzet Signet over a Dimir Signet will force you to have another black source on top of the "rock." Similar note, if you have a lot of multi-pip cards, don't run colorless lands and colorless rocks together, you will eventually have that moment of frustration when despite running a mono-color deck, you could have saved yourself with the cards in hand if only you could actually make enough colored mana. It's part of my bias against Sol Ring being considered a good card, the strongest performance I've seen is using it for a turn 1 signet and then consistently missing land drops as an instant luck counterbalance. I like Chromatic Lantern simply for nostalgia. On the subject of Ravnica, MASSIVE miss on WotC for not reprinting the guild cluestones with "artifact - clue" errata in the MKM set, it might have actually given them some niche use in Investigate decks. One final shoutout to Meteorite: 5 mana for 2 damage to any target that taps for one of any color. It's bad, but when you get to pull off removal by throwing a mana rock at something, it's hilarious.
@nilandkanan7256
@nilandkanan7256 6 ай бұрын
I have Chromatic Lantern in my Ur-Dragon deck because I also run all 10 fetches, all 10 shocks, ancient tomb, Sylvan Library, and the one ring so I find it nice to turn my fetches into lands that tap for mana. Do you guys think I should still cut it?
@firstandlast.1254
@firstandlast.1254 6 ай бұрын
Yes
@jordanledoux197
@jordanledoux197 2 ай бұрын
goddamn that sounds like an expensive deck.
@logandooley4426
@logandooley4426 6 ай бұрын
I also rarely play 3 mana rocks but my main slivers deck does play skyclave relic as it is an artifact with indestructible which is valuable because of harmonic sliver which destroys artifacts and enchantments and it’s not a “may” ability so often you’ll destroy all of them and be forced to start killing your own stuff but if you have the skyclave relic you can target that and it won’t break
@SugarBear-m9f
@SugarBear-m9f 6 ай бұрын
I took Harmonic out for that exact reason, blowing up your own stuff sucks lol
@logandooley4426
@logandooley4426 6 ай бұрын
@@SugarBear-m9f true I still like it in mine because if I have skyclave it’s amazing and if I don’t. My commander is overlord so I can just go get any of my slivers that let me sac my slivers and get get rid of harmonic myself Sometimes it can get annoying but it’s removal power is so high I’ve kept mine in because there are ways around the downside but few things that are that good at continuous removal
@MB-ub1qi
@MB-ub1qi 6 ай бұрын
for me the card draw on coveted jewel works in mono colored, cuz you can get it back & draw3, encourage attacks away from you, 6 for 3 cards is ugh, but you instantly get 3 mana back.
@shawnpanzegraf5642
@shawnpanzegraf5642 6 ай бұрын
I have nothing but good things to say about Throne of Eldraine. *4* colored mana for 5, plus the secondary card-draw makes this one of my favorite artifacts. Nyx Lotus coming into play tapped is rough, but I still play it in my Mono Green deck, due to how many high-pip spells I’m running. If you’re regularly tapping your Nyx Lotus for 15+ after it’s first untap, you tend to look on it as a 2nd Nykthos Shrine, rather than what it actually is. In something like Hydra Tribal, I would go as far as calling Nyx Lotus an auto-include. Ultimately, I recommend anyone playing a Monocolored deck heavy on the pips give Nyx Lotus a try for yourself. Some people will feel the explosiveness of the following turn is sufficient payment for Nyx Lotus coming in tapped, some won’t, but I really feel you have to give it a shot to know which you’re going to be.
@aimlessgun
@aimlessgun 4 ай бұрын
Throne is insane in monogreen. T1 and T2 ramp, T3 Throne and you still have a 4 mana play, and now on T4 you have 10 goddamn mana to do whatever the hell you want. if your 2nd T3 play was Goreclaw, you can drop 3 big creatures on T4.
@shawnpanzegraf5642
@shawnpanzegraf5642 4 ай бұрын
@@aimlessgun No love for the Nyx Lotus, eh? I really feel in high-devotion Mono Green the mileage can justify the admittedly brutal no-same-turn-payoff cost. Losing it to Removal is incredibly punishing, but conversely any game where you find your Nykthos and Nyx Lotus both, and it untaps? Game is basically yours to lose. Scepter of Eternal Glory is absolutely safer/more assured, but no one ever broke the bank betting Red/Black.
@Grimmsly
@Grimmsly 6 ай бұрын
Just in time. I'm not very experienced in Commander, so I was wondering what artifacts I should use for a Kaalia deck I've been putting together.
@crawdaddy2004
@crawdaddy2004 6 ай бұрын
13:45 I have Sphere of the Suns in one deck: Zedruu. I give it away after using the counters up. 😂 17:40 Coincidentally this is also the only deck I have Staff of Compleation in. It’s a Duel Commander deck, and the win condition is Illusions of Grandeur. 😅
@skullkrusher-dx4kg
@skullkrusher-dx4kg 6 ай бұрын
I play 4 mana rocks in tibalt but the whole deck is just mana.
@seanriley2695
@seanriley2695 6 ай бұрын
I surprised y’all didn’t mention everflowing chalice in the 2 mana slot. Can be played later for more mana if it’s a slower game, and it’s insane if you are in a proliferation deck
@GravityB2
@GravityB2 6 ай бұрын
What do you think about Crowded Crypt in aristocrats decks? also side note: I'm glad to see someone else's passionate hate towards Cryptex, why was this card even made? there's no format for it.
@xeper9458
@xeper9458 6 ай бұрын
Cryptex exists because lazy design. Crowded Crypt is great in mono black or dual colored aristocrats decks
@B3NN3TT066
@B3NN3TT066 6 ай бұрын
I play chromatic lantern in every deck I own that aren't my enchantments decks, my mana base is SOLID but that's not the point, the point is every once in a while you'll draw 5 lands and they will all be the wrong color. I'd rather play chromatic lantern over all the bad dual lands
@henlohenlo689
@henlohenlo689 6 ай бұрын
vintage deck idea, rate it. each card listed is 4 copies of it. then 24 total lands, 4 stomping grounds and 4 wooded foothills 8 mountains 8 forest. so here is the cards in the deck: turn things to artifact: liquimetal coating liquimetal torque(can add mana) mycosynth lattice generate or destroy mana: wall of roots(decent blocker) overgrown battlement(decent blocker) dwarven miner destroy artifacts: shattering pulse gorilla shaman steelbane hydra win condition? after destroy all permanents on the opponents side of board can chip down opponent with whatever creatures are on the board. eventually a giant steelbane hydra at some point.
@mikeschlott
@mikeschlott 6 ай бұрын
What about the medallion cycle?
@TubbyBubbleLove42
@TubbyBubbleLove42 6 ай бұрын
They seemed to focus on adding mana cards rather than reducing mana cost cards.
@thebigbear4696
@thebigbear4696 Ай бұрын
Glad you put respect on Thran Dynamo and Gilded Lotus. They've dropped in people's esteem over the years but are still good (though not as good as they once were). Darksteel Ingot and Chromatic Lantern were good back when there were much fewer options for affordable dual or tri lands (like when guild gates were almost auto includes) and fewer rocks than there are now. So I agree with you for the most part on them. However, I think you are a little wrong about Commander's Sphere. The card draw makes it a better card than many of the 2 mana rocks you list as good, at least for control players. However, I wouldn't play it in anything less than 3 color. Also, what about Sonic Screwdriver and Laser Screwdriver? I like them so far but often for the other abilities more than the mana ability. I'm addicted to Surveil so I use the Laser for that more often than mana.
@bendiv7999
@bendiv7999 6 ай бұрын
As osgir player i really like the tantilite mox + co
@hiphop2u
@hiphop2u 6 ай бұрын
Thank god was looking for something exactly like this
@ReyaadawnMTG
@ReyaadawnMTG 6 ай бұрын
I'd consider the Medallions as 2 mana rocks. In mono or two colored decks they're in most cases better than Mindstone
@breakingpoint3289
@breakingpoint3289 6 ай бұрын
Cromatic lantern plus the auto sac fetch lands is when is op as shit when in landfall decks
@brandonrichardson9458
@brandonrichardson9458 6 ай бұрын
We use chrom lantern because bloodmoon is popular in our group
@arkknight92
@arkknight92 6 ай бұрын
Sol ring, arcane signet, fellwar stone, thought vessel, mind stone, liquids metal torque, talismans, and signets in non cedh.
@uvtqs6344
@uvtqs6344 6 ай бұрын
I agree with mot but the last one, the empowered autogenerator is pretty good in proliferate decks, I have seen it give around 8 mana on turn 5.
@cameronfrey262
@cameronfrey262 6 ай бұрын
Watching this in October rn and I love it :)
@ryantriplett6512
@ryantriplett6512 6 ай бұрын
Coveted Jewel works great for Sheoldred. I literally won a game because they attacked me i gave them the jewel and they drew 3 cards and took 6 damage to lose the game cuz they didnt realize they would take damage from attacking me.
@joshclarke7063
@joshclarke7063 6 ай бұрын
Where was Elementalist's Palette!?
@lordpokesmoke
@lordpokesmoke 6 ай бұрын
Honestly Scyclave Relic is great if you play in a meta with a lot of artifact wipes, and to a lesser extent Darkstell Ingot
@Auscarsy
@Auscarsy 2 ай бұрын
I used the Golden Throne to win a game. As a mana rock? Worthless. But that “survive with 1 health” an opponent and I both were just max swinging on me and I placed golden throne. Giving me one extra turn no matter the damage he did, I won. Do NOT underestimate that ability.
@unreferierbar
@unreferierbar 6 ай бұрын
The Golden Throne is very specifically *very good* in Slimefoot and Squee - puts S&S in the graveyard and pays for almost all of the activation cost in one fell swoop!
@dirtyfrench2926
@dirtyfrench2926 6 ай бұрын
I ran it in a group slug Prossh. I constantly sac'ed Prossh so it helped pay for the commander tax.
@TheUltimateRey
@TheUltimateRey 6 ай бұрын
I wish sol ring wasn’t a part of commander but it feels wrong not putting it in a deck especially when every precon comes with one
@huntaustill
@huntaustill 6 ай бұрын
first video I saw of yours I thought "neat, I like their random facts/truths." now I think "what are they going to say this time!?" keep it up
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! :D
@MentalCrusader
@MentalCrusader 6 ай бұрын
A great advice I received with Mana Rocks or Ramp in general is, to look at your curve or average mana cost. Many decks rarely can make use of untapped lands/Mana Rocks so entering untapped isn't as important as it would seem in those decks.
@briandownie2955
@briandownie2955 6 ай бұрын
I think chromatic lantern clocks in more mid from my perspective. I see people stealing spells and casting from other graveyards more and more, some of those decks need all the colors to activate those juicy abilities 🤤
@Mercarcher
@Mercarcher 6 ай бұрын
Chromatic Lantern is needed in my mono black thief deck to be able to cast non-black spells.
@l33_generic37
@l33_generic37 6 ай бұрын
Chrom lantern comes in clutch in 3, 4, and 5 color decks.
@austinblankenship7631
@austinblankenship7631 6 ай бұрын
For some reason i now have the song Cleveland Rocks stuck in my head except it says "Mana Rocks"
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 6 ай бұрын
Ohio!
@markdziamski4859
@markdziamski4859 6 ай бұрын
Heraldic Banner is a beast in my Ovika Deck
@GrizzneyGames
@GrizzneyGames 6 ай бұрын
That sign never changes
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 6 ай бұрын
Name one time it changed
@wadewilson5712
@wadewilson5712 6 ай бұрын
i use "Chromatic lantern" in 5 color decks only for the mana fixing and "Decanter of endless water" in decks that are more than 2 colors and the decks have A Lot of draw.
@nicktadlock524
@nicktadlock524 6 ай бұрын
Great video guys! That one was a banger.
@coreystelton6551
@coreystelton6551 6 ай бұрын
Commander sphere is a better mind stone. Doesn't cost mana to activate so you can tap for mana and sac and draw a card and makes colored mana. For 1 more it's totally worth it especially if you have recursion. I love it in my Carmen the Cruel Skymarcher deck because it is just free card draw every turn if I want.
@Rizso1
@Rizso1 6 ай бұрын
2 mana rocks > 3 manarocks, 3 mana rocks needs a big bonus.
@coreystelton6551
@coreystelton6551 6 ай бұрын
IMO making colored mana vs colorless and not needing to pay or tap it to sac for a card draw seems like big enough bonus to me. But I run both mind stone and sphere@@Rizso1
@Commander_Claw
@Commander_Claw 6 ай бұрын
@@coreystelton6551yea the mana rocks really depend on your deck strategy and mana curve. For an aggro deck, mind stone is a 2 drop that adds 1 colorless on turn 2 possibly. Hit a land drop on turn 3 with mind stone you got 4 mana total. The colorless won’t have to use your specific land drop to cast spells either. But commander sphere is great for higher mana curves, colors with with needs for card draw,
@kv2315
@kv2315 6 ай бұрын
imo you forgot the 3-colour obelisks they are great if you are on a budget and do get you the colour you need.
@firstandlast.1254
@firstandlast.1254 6 ай бұрын
Manalith ($0.05) The Celestus ($0.75) Altar of the Pantheon ($0.07) Bonder's Ornament ($0.06) Commander's Sphere ($0.10) Coalition Relic ($0.41) Darksteel Ingot ($0.19) Fountain of Ichor ($0.07) Honored Heirloom ($0.07) Lantern of Revealing ($0.07) Letter of Acceptance ($0.03) Mana Geode ($0.14) Network Terminal ($0.05) Phyrexian Atlas ($0.04) Replicating Ring ($0.31) Skyclave Relic ($0.77) Vessel of Endless Rest ($0.12) All budget, all better than the obelisk cycle, all have the ability to add some weird sort of synergy. Took about 5 minutes to find. I purposely left out artifact creatures. Just no reason whatsoever to play obelisks.
@geofferiswheel
@geofferiswheel 6 ай бұрын
The moxfield ad came outta nowhere. Wow Nerds
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 6 ай бұрын
BAMBOOZLED
@nzephier
@nzephier 6 ай бұрын
Not a rock but an underrated card: travelers amulet. In non-green colors, its a rampant growth, i think non green players are sleeping on this.
@SaltyProductionsHD
@SaltyProductionsHD 6 ай бұрын
It goes to your hand and not the battlefield. I’d rather run a basic if I don’t need the artifact synergies.
@nzephier
@nzephier 6 ай бұрын
@SaltyProductionsHD if you haven't played a land that turn, it's into play! Think of it as early game ramp, most rampant growth effects are dead on arrival late game anyway so outside of green, I think it's a solid ramp piece!
@aerynmusick4548
@aerynmusick4548 6 ай бұрын
Beezy, be careful pushing through a sore throat! It’s easy to do damage to your voice if you’re using a numbing agent. Take care of yourself, we can wait a day!
@conanladler3472
@conanladler3472 6 ай бұрын
Some of those bad mana rocks seem kinda funny to run in a proliferate deck
@WayfarersBauble
@WayfarersBauble 6 ай бұрын
3:25 ...he said, talking about me 😊
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 6 ай бұрын
Sorry this isn’t your video!
@MrRomanrin
@MrRomanrin 6 ай бұрын
can i build a deck with like ALL THE MANA ROCKS i can find ??? like ... 20 mana rocks? make it crazy ramp...
@Onetrack320
@Onetrack320 Ай бұрын
Is there a ritual that makes you sacrifice a creatures to gain mana? Because I don’t think that’s what a ritual is I believe if you sacrifice the creature for two mana that counts as a mana rock and not a ritual, because rituals are instant spell to get more mana. Mana dorks is almost like a mana rock but it’s a creature instead of an artifact. Get your facts right! 🙌🏻
@financecarter
@financecarter 6 ай бұрын
The diamond cycle is good.
@diskuslars7527
@diskuslars7527 3 ай бұрын
Above the 2 Manarocks the only interesting is Great Henge As a Player with almost every Deck a Powerlevel 8 i only Play the Fast Rocks und Henge
@BadMa5a
@BadMa5a 6 ай бұрын
HeyHey. Good Video. I agree either way most of it except for Chromatic Lantern. 🥴🤪
@hrdcrWired
@hrdcrWired 6 ай бұрын
What about Chromatic Orrerry?
@Quim833
@Quim833 6 ай бұрын
Why crowded Crypt is never taken in consideration? i think its pretty good
@gn0s1s
@gn0s1s 6 ай бұрын
Saying chromatic lantern is bad in general is kind of a hot take.... 3 or more color decks? blood moon in your meta? dunno, I d agree it doesn't belong in every deck, but i wouldnt down rate it as hard as it was.
@firstandlast.1254
@firstandlast.1254 6 ай бұрын
It is bad in general. Needs some major restrictions/stipulations to be justified.
@TheBrymanCometh
@TheBrymanCometh 6 ай бұрын
No everflowing Chalice?
@birdman9580
@birdman9580 6 ай бұрын
What about Grim Monolith?
@hiphop2u
@hiphop2u 6 ай бұрын
Can’t you just run Thran Turbine in conjunction with filter lands/signets? I have at least 2 filter lands, and 1 signet in every deck. Seems viable.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 6 ай бұрын
You get the mana in your upkeep, so it's pretty awkward. I think your commander would need an activated ability
@xaeoxic7328
@xaeoxic7328 2 ай бұрын
31:18 i want this card to so badly be useful, but sadly it only has a home in proliferate decks really.
@robertwicks5733
@robertwicks5733 6 ай бұрын
WDYT about sonic screwdriver?
@Dskinny23
@Dskinny23 6 ай бұрын
I've used and seen Chromatic Launter used super well many times. Most times if it was instead a 2 mana rock in early game there is VERY little you may do with that 1 mana.
@ZenTeT
@ZenTeT 5 ай бұрын
i use chromatic lantern in my sliver deck
@thork_tv
@thork_tv 6 ай бұрын
My Grazilaxx Deck is intersting for this discussion because it hates to ramp on Turn 1/2. Since my commander only costs three Mana 2mana Rocks dont Speed Up getting him Out or His drawing. The best Starts for this Deck are a creature in 1 and 2 into Grazilaxx Turn 3 drawing 2. Hands that do Not provide at least one creature bevor Grazilaxx are Just bad. In this Deck i realy Like big Rocks since after I start drawing I need Mana to.cast my spells and also need to Catch Up to my opponent ramping. Nyxlotus is by FAR the best Rock in my Deck and IT ist the perfekt Play on Turn 4. Because I already have about 3-4 devotion so it Just Doubles my Mana on Turn 5 (since you can use the normal Mana to exent your boardstate you devotion will be easy about 5-6) Edit: finished the commend
@danielhavens8819
@danielhavens8819 6 ай бұрын
justice for Everflowing Chalice (amazing) and Astral Cornucopia (pretty good)
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 6 ай бұрын
Yeah they got missed because they don't actually cost zero lol, they're solid
@firstandlast.1254
@firstandlast.1254 6 ай бұрын
eww They're both pretty bad
@icysalvoyt2689
@icysalvoyt2689 6 ай бұрын
Moxfield ad at 12:12
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 6 ай бұрын
So close
@matthewrussell4681
@matthewrussell4681 Ай бұрын
I could say chromatic lantern for a Tergrid deck when you start stealing other peoples land but then why not just run urborg lol
@belloreos1368
@belloreos1368 6 ай бұрын
shout out my boy liquimetal torque (biased gruul player)
@bonweech3346
@bonweech3346 6 ай бұрын
I am not a fan of how they basically keep saying that all the cards that require synergy are not good. 500 Year Diary could easily go infinite with the kitchen sink and they're like, ew 4 mana in blue. So many cards in here that are bonkers with a bit of synergy, any of the counter ones are excellent in proliferate decks. Crazy how they judge some of em.
@Dark-Pikachu1
@Dark-Pikachu1 6 ай бұрын
1:47 what about great Henge
@jgroen5545
@jgroen5545 6 ай бұрын
That classification of chromatic lantern is just straight up disrespectul...
@StrangeGamer859
@StrangeGamer859 6 ай бұрын
I would call Lotus Petal an example of fair 0 mana rock
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