Commercial Flounder Fishing 2021

#commercialfishing #fishing #flounderfishing #flounder

[@ceciljones2695]

Nicely said, as a fellow waterman who’s been known to catch a few summer flounder in my day, the problem is that not one regulation implemented on any species that I’ve targeted in the last 46 years has been successful long term.

[@uriahclift4030]

What a awesome video. Thank you for showing this.

[@lseverino25]

Hey show a video on how you set the net s out awesome video keep it goin 🤙

[@user-dw3qt8ff8u]

Найкраща робота в світі.

[@RaginKajun69]

Glad to see somewhere that gill netting is allowed! Here in south Louisiana the GCCA has so much pull that netting for speckled trout and redfish is just a memory!! You did a great job explaining the Nets you use and how little bycatch is affected!! ✌️✌️👍

[@Orlosthedruid]

THANK GOODNESS FOR THE GCCA !! I dont give 2 sh*ts about what commercial guys say, I was a kid in the 70's and 80's and I remember when catching a redfish was rare, when trout populations were thin, when the best catch along the coast for most of the year was whiting and croakers. I support the GCCA and the evolution to the CCA. They brought about changes to make the fishing better for everyone!

[@vieuxacadian9455]

@@Orlosthedruid Oui . C'est verite .

[@JoseLuis-ft3km]

@@Orlosthedruid ñññ

[@Eric_Allen]

Does it stretch/destroy your net when you pull the fish through? Seems like it would. Do you have to repair/replace those nets frequently?

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

We used to replace them once a year. Now that we’re only getting to fish a couple days a year we don’t. They don’t stretch but there are certain things like bluefish and crabs that will chew the net up. And sometimes you get a fish that is so tangled it’s easiest just to break the mono to get him out.

[@JJP301]

what state are your permits and what tonnage?

[@glenndavis479]

Surly you must be laying new strings before retrieving the day be fore's one...kind of makes sense to me considering the 8 day window. Nothing better than Flounder cooked in butter with your choice of herbs...nice insight into your life mate , what else do you fish for through the year.

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

We aren’t allowed to have them out during the day, we have to get them up in the morning and can’t put them back until the evening. I fish for trout, drum, mullet, mackerel, bluefish, crabs, etc. Have to do a little bit of everything to make ends meet

[@glenndavis479]

@@swamptosoundadventures8337 Interesting...thanks.

[@sammylacks4937]

The biggest reason for the lack of flounder , red fish and other inshore game and table fish in NC isn't gill nets or pound nets it's the inshore trawling for shrimp that catches insane numbers of bycatch , dead baby flounder , spots and all species found here. It's not big comercial shrimpers but weekend warriors that pull nets on low tide when the bays and estuaries are dry or nearly so and all gill fish have to follow the water to the waterway and the seines. Years ago it was 10 lbs of by catch per lb of shrimp. Bet its more, way more . When our politicians in Raleigh wake up if it's not too late maybe stocks will rebound.

[@fletcheralfresco4621]

good load bud🤙🏽

[@juniorahken503]

We're is diz place??

[@JustMike2791]

Nice work.

[@jimmysharpe8067]

I’m ok with you catching flounder or whatever fish this way but I don’t think you should be able to set nets within 200 yards of the shoreline. Sport / pleasure fisherman spend a lot of money to be able to catch sometimes 1 to 4 fish then get in the bay only not to be able to fish the banks due to nets.

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

There is plenty of shoreline besides the tiny bit that we take up. Also we’re required to set the on the shoreline it’s illegal to set them off of it. Plus the flounder only stay right on the shore so there wouldn’t be anything to catch.

[@jimmysharpe8067]

@@swamptosoundadventures8337 that makes sense. I learned something new today lol. I didn’t know you were required to set them there.

[@ronniesmith8965]

I am retiring soon and have given thought to commercial fishing about the size of what you do. I was told I would have to start an LLC and get commercial insurance. Do you have any thoughts on that or advice

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

There’s no reason to get commercial insurance or start an llc unless you plan to sell the fish to the public in which case you’ll need a dealers license too. If you plan to sell them to a fish house like most people do you’ll just need a commercial fishing license, P sticker, and estuarine gill net permit.

[@vincentcarmine8731]

Plenty of good flounder netting and spearing in New Zealand

[@Maginnifix]

I absolutely love this . This young man is earning his living feeding us robots and still feels the need to explain it such a respectfull human.. Mate you need not explain shit your right its the rest of the world gone wrong.....

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

All those robots will have us shut down if we don’t find a way to educate them. The world really has gone wrong when you can put the truth right in front of them and they still can’t accept it. Thanks for the comment!

[@mychaelmitchell4632]

Pound netting has been around since before fishing reels! It's now a sustainable commercial fishery with regulations determined to allow bycatch a safe release. I commercial fish North Florida and what most people don don't realize is how many people he is feeding. He feeds his family with a paycheck, then wholesalers trickle the fish to various markets whom feed the end consumer! Tight work sir!👍💪💪💪

[@alexwalker7984]

What a nice skiff

[@dunsonoutdoors3766]

Super interesting video my man. Where are you located ?

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

North Carolina

[@ChuckEWeiss-fk6vr]

I’d love to have your size limit on Long Island, NY.

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

Different species. Ours don’t get near as big as y’all’s. We do get a few summer flounder but it’s mostly southerns.

[@heathhual9958]

What size is yalls hole mesh 7" or what

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

6 1/4 maybe a bundle of 6 1/2 in there

[@heathhual9958]

@@swamptosoundadventures8337 single layer

[@johnmiller4282]

What’s your profit for that day? Seems like a lot of work and expense

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

It varies. Sometimes the price can be as high as $6 a pound and I’ve seen it as low as $1.75.

[@marianford7709]

Ok you are a nice person

[@josephlewis8307]

Until like some big puppy drum or stripers get in there right or a bunch of crabs hung in the bottom maybe a Cormorant or two every now and again a Seagal I grew up netting I think commercial should be rod and reel

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

As you saw we want the puppy drum and our mesh size catches slots not big ones. We don’t have any striper that time of year. Crabs don’t die if they do get in there. And on the rare occasion that a cormorant gets in there he deserves to die because they’re overpopulated and every other state allows you to shoot them except ours.

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

And seagulls never get in nets

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

I have a hard time believing you grew up netting because if you did you would know that it’s a lot cleaner than rod and reel fishing. 2 out of every 5 undersized fish released from rod and reel die and that’s a fact. Maybe two out of every hundred released from a gill net die….

[@kenneth9874]

I wouldn't mind if they caught most of the cormorants

[@ceetrout3255]

Honest work …agree. But what about the species that are not your target….ask them boys in Pamlico where all the fish are nowadays…

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

Did u listen to the part where I said our nets are certain sizes so they only catch what we want and not nontarget species

[@ceetrout3255]

@@swamptosoundadventures8337 Unfortunately there is no real great resolution here. Sorry if I came off jerky, not my intention. From the rec guys prospective, nets and trawling inshore should never occur. But that’s just one perspective. I do respect guys trying to make a living on the water, tough work,a lot of risk financially and personal. I do not stump for cca, I wouldn’t want to be a part of a group that wants me as a member anyway…But there hasn’t been a decent spot run on the beach in years, and they are one of the many base forage fish. Good job with your vid…definitely learned a thing…good luck to you

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

@@ceetrout3255 a lot of things have been changing. Come catch some spot on this side of the sound 😃 they’ve showed up in ridiculous numbers in the last couple of years.

[@JoseLuis-ft3km]

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[@ashrammendez5413]

So glad I moved out the states where their are no limits to nets or fish because it's plentyful . Sheesh

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

We have hundreds of regulations. And also daily limits and seasonal quotas on everything.

[@ashrammendez5413]

@@swamptosoundadventures8337 sucks

[@SuperGeo213]

Damn no wonder the population going down

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

It isn’t. There’re more flounder now than ever in the past twenty years.

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

And if it went down it would be from the cormorants, recs, and skimmers. Not from a few gill net fishermen catching only keeper fish with next to no discards.

[@leebartell2502]

Eight days😢😢🤬 it's a crying shame!!! Gillnet are the most effective method for species specific fisheries and yet commercial gillnetting is under constant attack by regulatory groups sports fishing industry and eco groups who know nothing of what this industry is really about!!!!

[@JoseLuis-ft3km]

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[@highfinner]

SPORTY.

[@matthewslaughter7012]

I understand this is how you make a profit, but to help you understand why people don’t like gigging and gill netting is because us normal charters and regular fisherman are the one getting regulated the heaviest. Got no problem with you guys making a profit at all. And yes, people do not understand. Coming from the cape fear area.

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

Understood. But I wouldn’t call changing a season by a month or a limit by one fish “heavy regulation”. When they change regulations for us commercial guys(which they’ve been doing more and more frequently) it’s drastic and forces some people out of their jobs. There are getting to be less and less commercial fishermen. The problem lately has been politics….the CCA is getting things closed down on a whim just because they want to feel like they’re doing smtg(like the flounder and striper that they had no valid reason to close) if you talk to the North Carolina biologists that are actually out checking fish populations they’ll tell u that the people making the laws don’t listen to the facts at all

[@jimmyfumbanks6081]

If you think gigging and gill netting are even remotly the same just go home or go away . im guessing your a teen that knows everthing but go away.

[@ultimatehater8754]

Commercial Flounder fishing in North Carolina is the reason why they believe it’s being overfished. Gill nets should be banned! Virginia and SC don’t allow full nets and don’t seem to have a problem there. This is a proven fact and it’s the main reason why there is a problem. Commercial fishing is what ruins fishing for everyone. They are the ones that cry to politicians and pay them off to vote for these ridiculous regulations. I had a long conversation with a game warden that was trying to defend commercial fishing and the fact that undersized flounder are caught in these nets and he had to nerve to say it’s apart of fishing. Recreational fisherman must fight for their rights against these commercial cry babies ruining our ecosystem

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

It’s not being over fished. If it’s being overfished it’s by the over two million recreational fishermen not by the under two thousand gill netters. These are the same fish that migrate from Virginia to Florida so if they don’t have a problem then neither do we. And last of all they do not catch ANY undersize fish because they’re size specific(unlike hook and line which will gut hook any rip the lips of any size fish).

[@ultimatehater8754]

You’re lying and you know it. The video you posted shows the problems with gill nets that kill other non targeted fish in the process. Not to mention that it’s 70/30 harvest split. With 70% going to commercial. “We have found that the southern flounder fishery is overfished to the point where the catch is now controlled by a quota system so there’s no need to use this type of gear anymore because your quota is so small that it can be caught in these cleaner gear using pound nets or gigs without having to use a destructive gear,” said Coastal Conservation Association Executive Director David Sneed. Go tell your lies to a politician that might believe you with some cash

[@Pickers__Paradise]

I’m a gill netter in Va . We do the same thing here as they are doing there .

[@Tide12NC]

I don’t think hunk it’s people so much as angry at the fishermen as it is the law makers. See they want the money taxed off the fish your catching. The problem I have is it has gotten to a point that you can’t afford to go fish for your family. By the time you’ve paid for a license, rod and reels, tackle, bait, ice and gas, it’s impossible to get it back in fish being they want let you keep anything. Then when the poor man finds a half decent eating fish that was once known as a junk fish, and it gains popularity, they stop it and commercialize it! Great example was the trigger fish. In the 80’s they literally threw them back on charter trips. It’s Gov 💯 percent.

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

The law makers always side with the recreational fishermen instead of the commercial guys so obviously they don’t care anything about getting money from fish we catch….

[@tmo4330]

Trigger fish are the best eating fish I have eaten. They were "thrown back" and called a "trash fish" because they are tough to fillet.

[@bman2549]

Gotta find a better way to get them out of the net. Couldn't release them if you wanted to by squeezing the crap out of them

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

They’re still a lot healthier and a lot more likely to live than they would be with a hook in their gut or mouth

[@rexbanner7719]

Maybe an argument for a guthook but there is no way hell that a clean hook through the jaw and a quick release has a more detrimental effect to the fish then having most of their immune system compromised by a gill net. It all depends on how long they have been in the net as well. Extensive studies have shown that even though a fish may swim away after release does not mean he will survive. In fact the mortality rate can be as high 80% on a long soak.

[@chuckcauley8470]

Bud, you make some decent points, however net fishing should be banned in our estuaries. Especially for the shrimp trawling. Spot fishing in NC has been nearly worthless in recent years, we are limited to 1 flounder per day for 30 days, then it is closed. 1 gray trout, 1 drum (red) 4 specs. I am sorry, but something has to change. Those of us not on the coast can’t go everyday and when we can go, we spend a couple of hundred dollars for a few fish? 😢

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

What does the fact that they need to increase the limits have to do with gill nets? They should increase the quota for recreational and commercial fishermen. There’re more than enough fish. I agree that skimmer nets for shrimp at least should be banned because they’re just killing and wasting millions of undersize fish for a couple of shrimp, however gill nets are clean and sustainable.

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

Also I dunno where you’ve been spot fishing but there’s been record amounts of spots in the last couple years. Their numbers were down in the years before that and that just goes to show that fish populations have ups and downs naturally and don’t need human intervention all the time.

[@chuckcauley8470]

@@swamptosoundadventures8337 I guess my main concern is the fishery is being depleted by the trawlers. It is estimated that 90% of what is caught is byproduct and for the most part are already dead during the culling. I don’t mean to sound rude or un-empathic to gill netting, but our fishery is going away and the commercial trawler is hurting everyone.

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

@@chuckcauley8470 gill netting and trawling are totally different things

[@tmo4330]

@@chuckcauley8470 Byproduct is bringing top dollar these days. I pay $2,400.00 per ton for Purina Aquamax 600 which is made from fish meal! It beats the heck out of soybean fish feed.

[@michaelthompson525]

Unfortunately commercial fishing our sounds and inlets should be outlawed. Commercial fishing in the 60-90's with no regulations, really hurt the numbers of pretty much any species fish. Even if we outlawed commercial completely, the expanding population will never give any fish a chance to make a comeback. So catching fish in a net to make a profit by feeding the masses, umm hell no. You want to eat fish? get out there and catch em your self with a rod and reel. Oh and never take sustainability and environmental advice from somebody that has hair like that in fact do the opposite and we would probably be Headin in the right direction.

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

Rod and reel fishing has too much bycatch if anything should be outlawed it’s that

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

And it doesn’t matter what the fuck happened in the 60-90s because there are regulations now and every fish species is more than healthy. There isn’t a single species (besides sturgeon) that is even in the slightest danger

[@tomholland3236]

We throw those back to grow up on Long Island N.Y. Just sayin!

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

Yeah bud, different species 😂. These southerns don’t get very big. The males don’t get bigger than sixteen inches. We get a few summers like y’all have but not a lot.

[@papachulo6801]

Horrible. I hate nets.

[@robertroloff2751]

So what'd you get for hundred bucks for that little bit of fish? Waist and destructive power to our fishing industry

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

Elaborate

[@vieuxacadian9455]

C'est no pas bonne pour les poissons .

[@pault5816]

I don’t think this should be allowed

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

Why is that?

[@marshalldover3673]

Damn and all I can keep on vacation is 5 over 16 in. This is some b.s

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

What state are you in?

[@conanthedestroyer7123]

All Commercial and Industrial fishing need to be outlawed. Let the seas and oceans return to their natural state. Allow only manmade lake fish farming to feed the masses. Self-sustainment fishing is okay as long as limits are in place to protect from overfishing.

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

Farm raised fish are the most unhealthy thing there is. You couldn’t pay me to eat that junk.

[@conanthedestroyer7123]

@@swamptosoundadventures8337 Not true. Self sustainment fishing is cool. However the commercial and international industrialized fishing vessels are raping the oceans and seas and nothing is being done about it. The world population has doubled since 1982, and is expected to double again by 2050. The oceans and sea sized will not grow.

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

@@conanthedestroyer7123 the world population can grow as much as it wants but we won’t be catching more fish because there are regulations. It is a 100% fact that farm raised fish is extremely unhealthy. And the oceans in the US don’t get raped. I can’t speak for China and places like that but that’s not my problem 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@conanthedestroyer7123]

@@swamptosoundadventures8337 It is not your problem that the Oceans and seas are being depleted. It is everyone's problem and responsibility including yours.

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

@@conanthedestroyer7123 it’s not my problem that the oceans on the other side of the world are depleted. My oceans are perfectly healthy for harvesting all species of fish

[@daviddirese3671]

Don't use the word fishing when u using nets

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

Fishing- capturing fish. 🤣 doesn’t matter how

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

This was the original, true way of fishing. If it’s not fishing then what is?

[@buddyprice7541]

trawling is the official Coast Guard term!

[@buddyprice7541]

@@swamptosoundadventures8337 I'd match you fish to fish using live mullet and carolina rigs:) Lol

[@richardlovasco1438]

Trawling is dragging a. net. On the bottom not what your. Saying

[@daviddunn3539]

Not flounder,fluke

[@Dnfcnbvnbcvxb]

Try commercial gigging lol you’ll probably get more

[@swamptosoundadventures8337]

We only get a day or two a year where the water is clear enough on this side of the sound. Plus you can’t breathe at night cause of the bugs.

[@Dnfcnbvnbcvxb]

Try top water light 100w 12v bulb it’s not to bright and you can see down in the muddy water they will look like a golden hump