Learn how to use a torch on a Modified Bitumen Torch Down Roof

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Flat Roof Doctor

Flat Roof Doctor

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@weidles
@weidles 5 жыл бұрын
Just love it when the family is working together and the old man is training his sons to do the job right, wishing you and your family company all the best, they are going to have a great future because of a great DADDY.
@vincelawrence6909
@vincelawrence6909 3 жыл бұрын
The women are going to take the money and give you what they want you to have , if not the couch is your best friend, but you can come and do my roof for lest money and keep it all for your self .
@MrBluemanworld
@MrBluemanworld 3 жыл бұрын
Be proud of these videos and the knowledge you're sharing, you're a man. Period.
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@victorblock3421
@victorblock3421 2 жыл бұрын
You have some good young men with you. You can be proud. So rare to see this today.
@rooferonhigh7124
@rooferonhigh7124 9 ай бұрын
Listener from Minnesota. Hope business is good. God is good!
@edp2506
@edp2506 Жыл бұрын
This is a hardworking man who doesn't seem to shortcut his clients!
@sonnycline1802
@sonnycline1802 3 жыл бұрын
I seen another video with negative comments just ignore those because theres always someone better and smarter. 👌at least you work and ya do great work or you'd be on the ground not a roof. Js
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement
@SmashRectumn
@SmashRectumn 2 жыл бұрын
I love seeing a family working together and you have some amazing sons with you sir! And thank you for the video, I’m currently dipping my toes in repairing a roof here at my job in seward Alaska with a bad water leak from a neighboring roof coming into our communal kitchen we have here.
@travissmith3720
@travissmith3720 4 жыл бұрын
Wow , kind of different than the way I torch. I will need to get my video going on my next torch down job. For when I want to seal the torch down to edge metal I would instal about a 6 inch strip of torch down first , then metal , then the top layer. So I'm sandwiching the metal to the touchdown.
@bobbarker9986
@bobbarker9986 3 жыл бұрын
I used to do that too with 9" strips but it doesn't really work as great as it sounds because to get the strip hot enough to melt the torch to the back of the metal you end up putting too much heat on the metal and it warps. I guess even if you don't melt the first layer to the metal but the 2 layers melt together if water gets under the top layer it will be forced to go out to the edge of the roof under the metal instead of leaking and if you fold the base sheet over the edge it will be forced off the roof I think. At least that was my thinking.
@kevinwaller6353
@kevinwaller6353 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobbarker9986, put a strip granule side down and nail it on and then sandwich your metal. It won't require as much heat.
@bobbarker9986
@bobbarker9986 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinwaller6353 yes that's what I'm saying. but even better than that is to use smooth so there are no granules at all. Melt the smooth to the base sheet prior to installing the metal. Then melt the two sheets together, but to get the bottom piece to melt to the bottom of the metal it still takes enough heat to warp the metal but it usually straightens out once it cools.
@Brandon-no3vc
@Brandon-no3vc 3 жыл бұрын
Do you like the peel and stick base better then torch down base?
@Brandon-no3vc
@Brandon-no3vc 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobbarker9986 do you like peel and stick base better then torch down base?
@adolfoguevaraze92
@adolfoguevaraze92 3 жыл бұрын
You do a good job there always haters out there that think there are perfecto
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 3 жыл бұрын
thanks
@adolfoguevaraze92
@adolfoguevaraze92 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlatRoofDoctor let me know apppoinmets for roofing i would love yo work doing leads for you
@adolfoguevaraze92
@adolfoguevaraze92 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlatRoofDoctor get ame please
@christambassodor5024
@christambassodor5024 4 жыл бұрын
Wish you were on Jamaica because I got three different persons to give me a price quote and a video or two of thier work and none of the videos are quite satisfying as this. The safe part is that I am going to have to use one of them because I don't know anyone else.
@papasonmoney1546
@papasonmoney1546 4 жыл бұрын
Whats to stop roof from blowing off cause u did not put enough plates. Another thing i have never seen no company put this system over rocks. We usually either rip it or suck rocks off and use rubber with polyiso.
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 4 жыл бұрын
You are just someone taking orders. Monkey do what monkey see or told. This is a self-adhering base. No need for your "plates and screws". Also even if it was the system you think it should be, base paper with plate and screws, then the only reason why a roof would ever get blown of by wind is if it could get under the membrane. So if the edges were totally loose, and a little wind could sneak in under, it would start lifting and become a huge sail. Yes, you are right, you don't know much. I thought I was one of the first to go over the stone. I came across a few roofs that were done like that 30 years before I did it. The method you describe is 3 x more costly, and there is no reason if the substrate is still in good shape. In fact, it is far better than what you are used to. The stone act as insulation. The air trapped between the stone is a natural I isolation and also allowing moisture to move out to the sides. This type of system is a huge benefit. I guess you also don't use the ceramic granular surface, just the smooth. My suggestion is to become the best in what you do, instead of becoming a critique. You will never amount to anything critiquing others and yet you are not the best. All I do is Torch Down for the last 35 years. I don't do shingles, EPDM, TPO or metal. "I am the Flat Roof Doctor, I know a thing or two because I have seen a thing or two, bla bla bla".
@papasonmoney1546
@papasonmoney1546 4 жыл бұрын
I know more than u think. I am a Gaf field inspector for the last 15 yrs and before that i roofed for the union for 18, so i think i know a little something, and i know for a fact that what u are doing is very wrong! Besides your second layer is self adhered but not the paper u put down first u dummy. You are a bull shit artist not a roof doctor.
@dogtaxi812
@dogtaxi812 3 жыл бұрын
@@papasonmoney1546 Wasn't sure if anyone was noticing the "unique" application here.
@DQ-su6qf
@DQ-su6qf 3 жыл бұрын
@@papasonmoney1546 Sorry Papason you’ve lost all credibility when you said you work for GAF..They use too be fantastic with GAF Ultra ect but then they bought out ELK & let there quality & philosophy go to crap..They’ve turned down obvious roof failures that in the past were covered under warranty..it’s the one brand I know longer use… FYI: Over the years I’ve installed numerous roofs for GAF’s literature, Sample Boards & appeared in instructional GAF videos & tested products for them before they were released nationally…As far as going over rock, goes, when I talk to guys who’ve had proven success doing things a different way I don’t dismiss them, however out here in Los Angela’s I’d check with the inspector first…
@papasonmoney1546
@papasonmoney1546 3 жыл бұрын
@@DQ-su6qf you are 100 percent right. But I would take it even further. SHINGLES SUCK AND I MEAN ALL SHINGLES! Every manufacturer has loopholes in their warranties. Back in the day they use to have 15yr a 20yr and 25yr shingle and they lasted as advertised but now they bunched all of them together and put a limited life time warranty but they don't last not even 15 yrs. ITS A SCAM. SHINGLES use to be pro rated as well but not no more. I no longer work for Gaf. I'm an estimator and roof designer with tapered systems on commercial buildings. Way less travel and more money.
@ВадНов-б6ъ
@ВадНов-б6ъ 5 жыл бұрын
I am from Russia and I also make such roofs, with proper operation of the roof, it can stand for 30-40 years, regardless of the life of the material 20-25. nice to see skilled craftsmen in the usa, maybe someday see in the usa. Cood work).
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr Russian - I am surprised to hear that they have the same materials over there. I have been installing Modified Bitumen Torch Down for 30 years. It appears that fewer and fewer Roofing Contractors are willing to install this type of material. I could be because the learning curve is higher than other materials and it is slightly more expensive. You are correct. This material will outlast any other roofing material.
@lynagh11
@lynagh11 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to put out an instructional video. Very informative. Some comments were harsh. Live and let live people - Life is short!
@murrayboler5700
@murrayboler5700 3 жыл бұрын
I have single ply systems that have been in place 30 plus years and we are putting second layers on many of those, my customers are 100% sold on modified bitumen roofs!!!!
@cplusroofing-roofingreplac3568
@cplusroofing-roofingreplac3568 4 жыл бұрын
That's a amazing Doctor. I am glad to find your video. Thanks you for all your technique.
@krissiwy7967
@krissiwy7967 3 жыл бұрын
He doesn't know any techniques,he is a very good butcher. Don't follow any advice from this guy.
@whoville90
@whoville90 3 жыл бұрын
@@krissiwy7967 bhahahhaha very good butcher... facta
@whoville90
@whoville90 3 жыл бұрын
he's a horrible flat roofer... if you want to learn come to Canada get certified
@alexiswokal1722
@alexiswokal1722 5 жыл бұрын
I adore this way of torcher, it is the one that my father used and that he ensigned me, I always use it and I never had any problem, in France one uses very little this technique one uses a cane to draw the roll, in anyway you do a good job i love your work and your videos, greeting from France
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
Wow Alexis, I am happy to hear from you. Yes, I have seen some techniques where people pull the roll with a stick or metal hook. I tried that a few times. I felt that there was less control and that the heat was blowing back into my face. Then walking backward on a roof is a big "NO" in my book. Anyway, I really appreciate you writing from France, from me in Connecticut, USA, many greetings and best wishes. Can you write back and tell us what you do for a living?? Thanks, have a nice day
@shawncummings4653
@shawncummings4653 Жыл бұрын
Mastic on the metal insted of asphalt primer ??????
@juanmena1935
@juanmena1935 3 жыл бұрын
Good job
@WhistlesToAnimals
@WhistlesToAnimals 3 жыл бұрын
Any vid that is helpful to me with my place, and in this case helps me know how to torch gets a like. I'm seeing torches for only 50 bucks. I already know how to patch with mesh, but torching is very useful!
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@marselluswallace6
@marselluswallace6 2 жыл бұрын
When cap sheet is properly torched down you cannot stand on it because it will make huge marks. If you can walk on it without damaging the cap sheet granulars then it was not torches thoroughly enough.
@joeshmoe8912
@joeshmoe8912 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to say to all the haters on here that I do not believe he would be showing this if it didn't work. Yeah it's not the " right way" according to code or manufacturers or whatever, but if it would leak he would be the man to go fix it. If the wind can't get under it, it will not blow away. I just don't understand why people can't believe that there are other ways to do things. Your doing a great job flat roof doctor. F the haters.
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 3 жыл бұрын
thanks
@allenperera6158
@allenperera6158 5 жыл бұрын
Keep the videos coming.
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Allen. Winter is upon us and I will soon be posting a bunch of videos. I was so busy for the last eight months that I barely had a chance to edit any videos.
@bobbarker9986
@bobbarker9986 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who knows what he's doing! Just the right amount of heat in the right place. I like how you always keep the flame aimed towards the side seam to add extra heat, even when you are heating the other side. Like you said your son was moving too fast and not melting all the seam area, heating too short of an area and rolling to far each time. I'm sure he does it great now because you know the difference. I've got 44 years on the roof, sold my hot tar kettle in the 90s and do exclusively torch down now. Great job!
@tooeazeful
@tooeazeful 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Water is coming in through my seams on my modified bitumen flat roof. How can I stop this?
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 2 жыл бұрын
Pop the seams loose where possible. Pry them loose from each other and re-torch. If that is not possible, then use Turbo Poly Seal with the fleece over the seams
@jonathanmeek9524
@jonathanmeek9524 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a walk through video on this roof now? I'm curious to see how many patches have been put down cause I know that thing leaks.
@nateeaston2043
@nateeaston2043 4 жыл бұрын
i have never went over gravel with a base layer. i have with recovery board.
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 4 жыл бұрын
Sure, that is what everyone does. But, the recovery board becomes a problem when it gets wet for one reason or another, either rotting, getting soggy, letting the fasteners holding the recovery board poking up through the membrane. With this method, there is air trapped among the stone allowing to air out whatever moist is trapped. And should there ever be a leak for one reason or another, the membrane will not be compromised and any leak could be taken care off.
@kevinwaller6353
@kevinwaller6353 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlatRoofDoctor, you can't convince me that the rocks will not penetrate that roof by walking on it. If you're concerned about recovery board getting wet at some point then use fan fold polystyrene insulation that is not affected by moisture and on top of it all it is not secured to the building. It appears to be a floating roof. I'm in Florida and there's no way you can get away with that here.
@JordanSmith-sq4ph
@JordanSmith-sq4ph 5 жыл бұрын
Hey been watching ur videos a lot I am roofer from philly I am learning a lot just watching ur videos Just wanted to thank u sir
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jordan Thanks for the comment. I am glad it is helpful for you. I am planning to make a video on how to price a job and how I do estimates. This was a request from someone.
@artinist
@artinist 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative videos
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Art. Thanks for being active on my channel. It's people like you that comment, that helps make my channel grow. KZbin give credit to every little thing people are engaged in on the channel. So, thank you
@ozasco
@ozasco 8 ай бұрын
Nice family
@Brandon-no3vc
@Brandon-no3vc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks doc
@hakim9061
@hakim9061 9 ай бұрын
Salute from Morocco almost the same methods
@johnmichaelkarma
@johnmichaelkarma 4 жыл бұрын
An old claw hammer works well also if the claw edge is dressed with files or grinding wheel. Great vid thanks. I'm needing roof work and am educating myself. thumbs up
@iamnicoleross2580
@iamnicoleross2580 4 жыл бұрын
i have commercial roof that has torch down from an auction it was good for 4 years but now have cracks ,70 of seams are good . should I do the 2ply system over the whole roof as I want to put a green space on roof later, i have 4 leaks on building
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 4 жыл бұрын
If you have an existing Torch Down, then you should only put another Torch Down layer over that one fusing them 2 together. That becomes the ultimate roofing system that will last over 100 years. The 2 layers become a 2 Ply system.
@iamnicoleross2580
@iamnicoleross2580 4 жыл бұрын
@@FlatRoofDoctor thanks so much for the fast reply, love all the videos . thought i knew a lot it was originally a gravel roof . it was a lot of work.
@dogtaxi812
@dogtaxi812 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. When you install edge metal, you are using gravel stop on here, there should be a 10 in. strip of smooth torched to perimeter first, then flashing nailed. Next the flashing should be primed with asphalt roof primer. The quick dry spray is best. Then you torch your finish ply on to that so that your metal ia always sandwiched between 2 layers. All cant and protrusion areas should also be double with the finish ply. I believe the Karnak you use on flashing is for SBS cold application, not APP torch application.
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, that is all your opinion and what you have been taught. I agree to "sandwich the metal edging" The Karnak is not for SBS only. If you read on the label it is called "Modified Bitumen Adhesive". The Karnak is better than any sprayed on Asphalt roof primer. The Asphalt roof primer is just a very thin layer of the Karnak. It is not even close as good. To apply heat to the metal edging is wrong. That is why I don't torch or use a flame to attach the membrane to the metal. I apply a thick coat of Karnak Adhesive to the metal that will prevent the flame from getting to it and then melt the membrane slightly to burn the plastic protection so as to stick it to the adhesive. This is a trick I started 30 years ago and has not failed me yet.
@davidlysohirka798
@davidlysohirka798 2 жыл бұрын
First....rip off old roof....lay your base to all perimeters and crease over fascia 2". Install min. ga perimeter drip edge with a flange min 6" onto roof and 2.5 over fascia.....nail the shit out of drip but keep nails out of last 3 " on fascia side of drip.....prime flange...install 10" cover strip onto drip 3". When torching your cap sheet , cut 1" past drip and trim after it cools..... That's how It done! 😎
@leog6742
@leog6742 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a trick on how to keep the roll straight When is a long distance?
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 4 жыл бұрын
When you apply heat to the roll, one tends to put more heat on the side where the overlapping seam is. because of that, the material expands more on one side than the other. Overheating the seam could cause the membrane to go on a turn
@leog6742
@leog6742 4 жыл бұрын
@@FlatRoofDoctor got it !! Thanks
@patrickromanowski5911
@patrickromanowski5911 3 жыл бұрын
Father son have got to be polish. Polska! Can see it from mile away lol. Tak jest mystro. Father has gotta scream mwodyy every few min and the video is complete
@cirinogarduno5945
@cirinogarduno5945 4 жыл бұрын
Muy.bueno.lnteresante
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 4 жыл бұрын
Gracias por tu tiempo espero le ayude 👍
@dancooper3066
@dancooper3066 3 жыл бұрын
how do you install and waterproof a skylight on an existing torch down flat roof
@RRaucina
@RRaucina Жыл бұрын
Dad and son both need to give more heat. you are only getting about 60% bond. Too fast let the heat absorb.
@grimchuckles9484
@grimchuckles9484 Ай бұрын
why don't you use a 7 torch head wagon for the field?
@luisfelipedonascimentomadi3324
@luisfelipedonascimentomadi3324 4 жыл бұрын
Very instructive video, good job guys, greetings from Perú
@steveedwards8517
@steveedwards8517 4 жыл бұрын
What brand torch are you using?
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 4 жыл бұрын
Magnum
@MrFlatroofer
@MrFlatroofer 4 жыл бұрын
A Sievart 2 knob short torch. About £100.
@sativame400
@sativame400 2 жыл бұрын
live in vancouver this work would not pass inspection not RCABC this is old time roofing we call it butcher work gives good roofers a bad name
@AlMai222
@AlMai222 5 ай бұрын
What’s the proper method ?
@antog9811
@antog9811 4 жыл бұрын
I have a low slope roof with gravel. The roof is in good condition. Can I do the same , just to install a 3 ply system without taking out the Gravel ?
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 4 жыл бұрын
I guess the video is not enough. What else will help you to understand. If you have to ask a question like that after watching the video, then you should not do anything because you will be doubting everything you do. Spoon fed people never grow. I make these videos to show you tips and tricks and what I have done that works. Therefor there is no need for you to experiment. I have paid the price. The only thing you have to do is to either do it or not without risking failure. My experience came with a price to your benefit. Take it or leave it. Anyway, thank-you for asking the question. That helped me to utter my thoughts so everyone else can rail on me for being so blunt. The answer to your question is - "Yes" LOL
@nicholaspereira9539
@nicholaspereira9539 4 жыл бұрын
gravel must be removed first before putting down new layer of protection board. protection board , base, then cap sheet.
@hakim9061
@hakim9061 9 ай бұрын
The Long torch is hard to use in the corners and tight places long one is only good when u have straight path
@jamescole3152
@jamescole3152 2 жыл бұрын
OK I have a question. Could you do the same thing here with aluminum roll for the roof? And just torch down the seam between the courses or over lap? And screw down the edge of the roll at the top. I see you use Karnak 81 on metal. So would Karnak work between the layersif I used aluminum rolls ?
@claymoseley6168
@claymoseley6168 4 жыл бұрын
Good for you guys! You are total pros, and from the POV of an engineer, we would definitely spec your processes/methods, and quality. You have definitely perfected these processes. We have so many problems on TPO roofing systems in our utilities facilities (wells, pumping stations, etc.), so I am happy to see exactly how you apply these methods. Too bad you're so far away...
@evegrosset2343
@evegrosset2343 2 жыл бұрын
how do you get it off
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 2 жыл бұрын
no idea what you are asking?
@hatzlmike1
@hatzlmike1 4 жыл бұрын
Much love. I have learned so much. God bless.
@thomasilas
@thomasilas 3 жыл бұрын
Which gas is being used?
@captjo1337
@captjo1337 3 жыл бұрын
After this can it still be plastered with cement?
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 3 жыл бұрын
platering a Torch Down?
@specialitywaterproofroof4336
@specialitywaterproofroof4336 5 жыл бұрын
Mooi van Suid Afrika, baie goeie video Oom.
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Pieter I wrote a long reply to you about the pull or pushing off a roll, but now I cant seem to find that comment of yours. Sorry if it got deleted. Please write often and give me your comments. i would like to keep a communiction going with you. Best Regards Naas
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Pieter Hoe gaan dit met jou. Hoop alles is nog goed. Groete van af die States
@JoelRamirez-dg2yu
@JoelRamirez-dg2yu 3 жыл бұрын
Great job!
@MrRadgo
@MrRadgo Жыл бұрын
A helper is half of the success :)
@carlosaverhoff9383
@carlosaverhoff9383 5 жыл бұрын
YOUR VIDEOS ARE FANTASTIC. KEEP THEM COMING THANK YOU
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@MrFoampile
@MrFoampile 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Are you polish, if you don't mind me asking?
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 4 жыл бұрын
South African
@marielugo8047
@marielugo8047 5 жыл бұрын
Buen travajo asi es
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
gracias
@chrisgodfrey1891
@chrisgodfrey1891 3 жыл бұрын
That's some of the worst felting I've ever seen. And everyone in the comments saying great job clearly have no idea how felt should be layed. I'd be sacked on the spot for felting like that.
@shanehussey5745
@shanehussey5745 5 жыл бұрын
Very very informative videos this video covered my concerns and the time spent showing the torch down process was excellent. Showing the results and correct flow of material was perfect I now know what to look for on my project. Thanks for all the information and time you have spent on sharing some of your techniques.
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Shane, I am glad this was helpful. Let me know if there is anything else that you would like to see or know. When you asked me to show how to torch, I thought I was going to get a few clips here and there and slap them together to make this video. Instead, it took all day. I am now glad I did it. I know many will want to criticize. We will see. Happy torching. By the way, those pics you have send of your project was very helpful and I think you have an easy roofing job ahead.
@CrackedShack
@CrackedShack 4 жыл бұрын
Do you need a specific license for this kind of work? My father does roofing and wants to start using the torch down method.
@emmagaribay4594
@emmagaribay4594 3 жыл бұрын
C-39 CONTRACTORS LICENSE (IF HE ALREADY HAS A ROOFING LICENSE HE CAN USE THE SAME ONE)
@andrewbeaudry9705
@andrewbeaudry9705 5 жыл бұрын
Capping a gravel roof with torch down is genius. Tar and gravel roofs are very popular here in Canada, I asked a commercial roofer friend of mine if he ever heard about it or tried it. He said i was crazy. Then I showed your videos, and he's going to try it on his shop roof. Looking forward to seeing the results
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
Nice, I have been doing it for 30 years. People are crazy to want to strip a roof just to put another layer. As long as the roof is solid, the substrate, then you can install this system over any roof.
@andrewbeaudry9705
@andrewbeaudry9705 5 жыл бұрын
@@FlatRoofDoctor I'm wondering if insulation boards can be used over the gravel before the torch down?
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
@@andrewbeaudry9705 That's a common practice. Most roofers will install a 1/2" recovery board and then a base paper over that. The recovery board will have that additional height and sometimes will make it harder to tie into old existing flashing. But it is also another way to do it.
@andrewbeaudry9705
@andrewbeaudry9705 5 жыл бұрын
@@FlatRoofDoctor I've been looking at Roxul TopRock DD Plus. I'm just wondering if you ever tried it? Can't find much info on how to tie in drains, openings, and flashing. Apparently, they have curved pieces for curbs and sloped sections. If you can share any knowledge you have or opinions on this would be appreciated. I'm not a roofer but do property maintenance and started watching your videos to learn how to find and fix leaks on flat roofs. I've been thinking about trying to offer more flat roof repairs to my business and bid on larger roof jobs. Obviously, i still have a lot to learn Thanks again Naas for your help
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
@@andrewbeaudry9705 Hey, I think I have unedited videos on how to tie into a drain. I might post one for you. Thanks
@Henry-gb8cl
@Henry-gb8cl 5 жыл бұрын
I have used 3 ply modified bitumen that has gravel on top and I guess the material you used is the same minus the gravel. Why is it necessary to put down fiberglass sheet over the old gravel and over that base sheet and modified bitumen; why not skip the fiberglass sheet? Or can you skip the first two coverings and just applied the modified bitumen roll over the old gravel?
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, I am a little confused at what you are saying and asking: 1. "I have used 3 ply modified bitumen that has gravel on top" Does "gravel" mean "ceramic granules"? 3 Ply - what is each layer consist of? 2. The reason I install a "fiber base" not "fiberglass"(it is a specially designed fiber asphalt saturated paper for torch down) is because: a) it provide a smooth surface over the gravel roof b) it prevents sharp edges from piercing to the cap sheet c) it is a stiffener for the system - meaning it helps keep the cap sheet from making creases. 3. You can never install a Modified Bitumen Torch Down membrane by itself. It will start getting wrinkles over time. You need a backing like a fiber base paper 4. "I guess the material you used is the same minus the gravel" I don't understand this part of your statement either. I am confused at what you call "gravel."
@Henry-gb8cl
@Henry-gb8cl 5 жыл бұрын
@@FlatRoofDoctor Sorry about the confusion, let me clear it up. I meant ceramic granules and not gravel. I was covering over an old modified bitumen covering that had faded white ceramic granules on top. First, I laid down a flame resistant fiberglass base sheet and fastened it to the old covering with nails with square plates on top and torched down a new modified bitumen membrane with white ceramic granules for top cover. I was referring to the new membrane as a 3 ply, only because the label on the product said, "Tri-Ply APP membrane-maybe I am wrong. I spent 2K just on materials and the roof is still leaking, a lot less, but leaking and I noticed creases, or wrinkles developing on the new covering. Did I do it wrong? I did learn a lot from your other videos on how to find and fix leaks from flashing and around pipe/vent openings. Thank you!
@dustinlogan7956
@dustinlogan7956 4 жыл бұрын
Really does not make sence. You would only use gravel if you were flood coating and there would be no need to flood coat over modified cap sheet only felts(4ply/bur)
@bobbymancini9069
@bobbymancini9069 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinlogan7956 now that's a roof
@gotmagictricks3074
@gotmagictricks3074 4 жыл бұрын
Is that smooth or granular modified bitumen? And which is better for flat roof?
@ramirogarcia8720
@ramirogarcia8720 3 жыл бұрын
smooth is usually used as a base coat, and the granular as the second ply
@uriko4941
@uriko4941 3 жыл бұрын
I need help. normally how much is the footage cost for this kind roof
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 3 жыл бұрын
Around 5 - 7 dollars per square foot, depending on obstacles, roof penetrations, metal edging, flashing, and height. Also removing the old roof will add to the cost.
@uriko4941
@uriko4941 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your help I learn a lot really good videos thank you 👍
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 3 жыл бұрын
@@uriko4941 I am glad to help
@chrisyo295
@chrisyo295 4 жыл бұрын
What materiala did you use I have a flat roof that I need to replace
@MrFlatroofer
@MrFlatroofer 4 жыл бұрын
2c base layer, 3kg sanded. 4.5 kg mineral. SBS Polyester.
@ahakaka21
@ahakaka21 4 жыл бұрын
You have to keep the foot on the membrane all the time,from start to the end
@olej2183
@olej2183 3 жыл бұрын
Why? 😂
@Carlbritain
@Carlbritain 3 жыл бұрын
Why not strip it up and do it properly? I don’t recon that’s lasting 30 years.
@ianslater6627
@ianslater6627 4 жыл бұрын
Your burn lines arnt even which mean its not stuck properly. Also you arnt rolling correctly, you don't push stop, try a nice motion your bleed will be much better 👍
@kevinwaller6353
@kevinwaller6353 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen it all now. I cannot wrap my head around why anyone would lay a base sheet directly onto the gravel. How in the world is your roof secured to your building? Where is your recovery board?
@Brandon-no3vc
@Brandon-no3vc 3 жыл бұрын
Do you like peel and stick base or torch down base
@kevinwaller6353
@kevinwaller6353 3 жыл бұрын
@@Brandon-no3vc, polystick sav base is my preference
@Brandon-no3vc
@Brandon-no3vc 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinwaller6353 whys that? Is it better then torch down base?
@timbrown9305
@timbrown9305 3 жыл бұрын
use a grinder to sharpen you hammer
@raulzamora4523
@raulzamora4523 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect. Thanks.
@chapsteronetime2000
@chapsteronetime2000 3 жыл бұрын
No 45 degree fiber cant strips? Smooth transition at the wall break, it’s code here
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 3 жыл бұрын
You absolutely right, I don't follow many codes. my bad. It is like most people don't drive the speed limits, do you? I agree, with you, but I have also found that most codes don't make sense.
@tomgiron5174
@tomgiron5174 5 жыл бұрын
Hi doctor like top know were are you located? to see if i can get some training from you guys or maybe you can give me some direction I like to really learn the Modified System Thank You and God Bless !
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
Where are you at?
@Brandon-no3vc
@Brandon-no3vc 3 жыл бұрын
You like the peel and stick base better then the torch down base?
@diodorusb
@diodorusb 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work! Thank you.
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am on a 120 000 sq ft job now where I have the opportunity to make videos of different facets of torch down roofing. This will include how to install Torch Down and tie it into a cast iron drain, field torching, my approach on how to get rid of pooling water, some detail work around curbs and vent flashing, and maybe a drip edge installation detail. My way of doing the described stuff above is different than most other roofers. I hope to get these videos edited and posted in the next couple of months. But thanks for the compliment
@DukeMitchell.223
@DukeMitchell.223 2 жыл бұрын
Everything looks super clean and well done but your gonna burn the home down without an extinguisher. Having that gravel bed helps but that flame lick is going to find a dry spot and it’s over. I have been torching Modified since 1992 and we always used a 43 pound mineral anchor sheet with Modified mid ply and MF white cap, if I ever did this without an extinguisher id have my liability insurance cancelled.
@camilledesai2861
@camilledesai2861 4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! What type of cap sheet product do you like to use?
@whoville90
@whoville90 4 жыл бұрын
His viedos are horrible
@germanomani2105
@germanomani2105 3 жыл бұрын
@@whoville90 and your grammar is just as horrible
@whoville90
@whoville90 3 жыл бұрын
@@germanomani2105 oh no someone who's perfect and never makes typos... my typos aren't going to make this roof leak.🤣🤣🤣
@whoville90
@whoville90 3 жыл бұрын
we know Canada have the best flat roofers.. and it's a fact.. and soprema would pass this.. they would tell him to rip it up and do it again
@whoville90
@whoville90 3 жыл бұрын
@@germanomani2105 and u don't need a second guy to torch.. and he's using a field torch not even the proper one
@DenoKeller
@DenoKeller 5 жыл бұрын
In my honest opinion , you should be using a asphalt primer on the metal and not roofing cement ! This will most likely cause the roof to fail ! I’ve done torch down for over 25 years now and I’m a member of Roofer Union in Chicago out of Local# 11 , Roofers and Waterproofers ! I enjoy watching your videos, keep up the great work ! GOD Bless 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Deno - You are correct, asphalt primer is the way to go. What you don't have right is you call it "roofing cement". That is the junk most roofers use. I have never and will never ever use roofing cement on any roof. Karnak 81 is not roofing cement. Karnal 81 Trowel Grade has the same components as Karnaks asphalt primer. I have been using it for 30 years and never had a problem. I have never used roofing cement in my life. Thank you anyway for bringing that out. It is a good observation and a good tip from you. Use Asphalt primer if you plan to torch and melt straight to metal. (very difficult to do, need to nail the drip edge every 3") In my case, we don't torch to the metal but instead, we use Modified Bitumen Adhesives from Karnak. Thanks again for your input - it is much appreciated
@DenoKeller
@DenoKeller 5 жыл бұрын
Flat Roof Doctor Always learning , we’ve never used that before or heard of it here , I’ll have to look it up ! Just curious, is that a Hot Shot torch ? They’re getting hard to get in The US , glad I stocked up ! Also, Have you ever used a Dragon Wagon to torch out the flats ? Thank you for your reply and great video 😎👍🏻
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
@@DenoKeller Hey Here is a link where to see the Torches I use. It's a magnum www.modisystems.com/MagnumTorchKits.php I have other torches for detail that i will demonstrate later
@jacobtran6138
@jacobtran6138 3 жыл бұрын
I hope your in my area if you’ve been doing this horrible quality for 30 years means I’ll be in business for years too come your doing 90% of everything wrong I am 23 and have been doing this for 8 years and I did better quality my first time on torch your using Karnak on metal that’s complete wrong in so many ways they make this called primer for metal and your standing on the roll putting boot marks all over the roof it’s crazy you even have work after your first job if you compared 1 of my jobs to yours you would be blown away at the quality and skill that you clearly lacking I feel bad for your kids getting taught how to be hacks at flaying roofing when it’s an art to be flat roofer honestly disappointed in people like you that think you can do this to homeowners that roof likes like shit and is pieced in like shit you have so much to learn so little time Also I never comment on anything but this is so bad I couldn’t help my self my jaw has been dropped the whole video
@krissiwy7967
@krissiwy7967 3 жыл бұрын
Flat Roof Butchers 😋
@MexicanJewelry
@MexicanJewelry 5 жыл бұрын
Wow pretty amazing job guys nice ,good lesson for us to it are self thank you again good video sweetheart
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
You welcome sweetheart. See you soon. maybe next week
@sylvainrousseau3349
@sylvainrousseau3349 4 жыл бұрын
You should do shingles
@highgatehandyman6479
@highgatehandyman6479 5 жыл бұрын
Blimeym how many sons you got? Thanks for vids. Psyching myself up for this task.
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
I got three sons. One has his own successful roofing business, the youngest still works for me on and off till he find something else to do
@highgatehandyman6479
@highgatehandyman6479 5 жыл бұрын
@@FlatRoofDoctor thanks Doc. Always nice to see. Nice to see.
@freespeach1776
@freespeach1776 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to have found your channel... liked and subscribed.... I am looking to replace my EPDM roof 16x16 that I installed on my house 20 years ago and was wondering what is the best overlay to use instead of ripping up the EPDM ...thanks
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
I always use a Johns Mansfield Dynagrip peel and stick base and then torch over that with Firestone APP 180 White Granules
@marielugo8047
@marielugo8047 5 жыл бұрын
@@FlatRoofDoctor you guys for work
@marielugo8047
@marielugo8047 5 жыл бұрын
Do you need somebody for work for you
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
Hi The best life extender for an EPDM rubber roof is Super Silicone Seal from Bergstromm.com Watch this video where I explain how good it works kzbin.info/www/bejne/qam7c4Zmq5ibjLs
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
@@marielugo8047 Are you pretty?
@mydaddy5393
@mydaddy5393 4 жыл бұрын
Come'on roof doctor! I don't see a fire extinguisher anywhere on this job. Gotta teach them safety unless you want the whole building to burn down. Code requirement within 10' of torch operator everyone. It doesn't take much effort to have one with you.
@jdspear
@jdspear 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I was going to ask, "what are the fire safety recommendations you would make to a do-it-yourselfer homeowner who is going to try the torch down technique?" Your answer sounds reasonable to me.
@mikeches7992
@mikeches7992 5 жыл бұрын
Say WHERE DO YOU BUY THIS TORCH DOWN ROOFING?????
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
You can buy this from a Roofing Supply place like ABC Building Supply or Allied Roofing or Beacon Roofing. Those are the biggest in the country
@MrAbugaarith
@MrAbugaarith 4 жыл бұрын
great vid...is he south african? He surely sounds like a South african
@sylvainrousseau3349
@sylvainrousseau3349 4 жыл бұрын
Torch to mastic😂😂😂you should keep that secret a secret
@chrisengel3467
@chrisengel3467 4 жыл бұрын
Those roofer are a joke torching to mastic. I agree cause I'm from Canada and a professional roofer and work with red seal journeyman
@samueltaylor3495
@samueltaylor3495 4 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't you have torn everything off even in the scuppers before you did the base? doesn't make sense to me
@patrickromanowski5911
@patrickromanowski5911 3 жыл бұрын
Lol at the comments. There’s a saying, the best roofer , is the worst roofer on a KZbin. Post a video, where obviously the guy has been around in the trade, regardless if you think you do it better or he’s wrong. Why don’t you post a video?
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Patrick
@davidchad77
@davidchad77 4 жыл бұрын
How much per square foot does a roof system like this cost on average?
@manuelvalerio6207
@manuelvalerio6207 4 жыл бұрын
Where are you located? That affects the price a lot
@jaybax2083
@jaybax2083 3 жыл бұрын
$2.95 an hour, when do I start?
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 3 жыл бұрын
Anytime, where did you come up with that number?
@jaybax2083
@jaybax2083 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlatRoofDoctor Watch @ 12:34
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaybax2083 LOL thanks, we were just joking. In fact, at that time we were not doing so good concerning income. The kids lost their mom, I lost my business to my brother, and I had a curse over me. It took another 5 years to recover after that video. Memories. Anyway, thanks for your observation and comments
@jaybax2083
@jaybax2083 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlatRoofDoctor My condolences. And don't expect me to show up anytime soon for just $2.95. 😉
@doncrist2012
@doncrist2012 4 жыл бұрын
It last until the wind rips it and tears it off
@alionmusk4906
@alionmusk4906 4 жыл бұрын
Its Glass Fiber. Not fiberglass . Miss leading when you say Fiberglass . There's a difference . Your torching is horrible and will lead to many deficiencies through thermal cycling .
@Rajjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
@Rajjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj 4 жыл бұрын
Alion Mush would really appreciate if you Could please specify the mistakes rather than categorically saying the technical is bad. That would really help junior rufeers. Thank you
@dustinlogan7956
@dustinlogan7956 4 жыл бұрын
Would never pass an inspection.
@dustinlogan7956
@dustinlogan7956 4 жыл бұрын
I would normally use a cane to pull my roll instead of walking on it. If you tried that on a hot summer day your cap will end up with footprints (if torched properly). Pulling instead of kicking the roll allows you to control the flame and hit all areas of the roll and the base layer underneath evenly. This roof will be covered in Blisters (air pockets under the cap due to lack of heat and adhesion. The biggest mistake in this video is torching to plastic cement(mastic,bitumin,sopramastic)
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 4 жыл бұрын
You need the cane instead. You are correct, if you use GAF or Carlisle products, they are way to soft to walk on while torching. If you have enough experience you know which products are good to use. Experience is what you need. To much talk doesn't get you much. In this video we are torching to a MB base that is meant for torching. John Mansfield Dynagrip. Too little knowledge too much bark makes for a Puffed up head
@bongcrusha420
@bongcrusha420 3 жыл бұрын
going overtop of gravel like that is going to cause blisters from any moisture geting caught in the system. you wont get 30-40 years like that lol
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 3 жыл бұрын
you know nothing. I have done this for 35 years Nothing went wrong. In fact, it is far better than a normal torch down
@bongcrusha420
@bongcrusha420 3 жыл бұрын
​@@FlatRoofDoctor sure yeah. all the leaks calls ive been on that had terrible systems like that from people who think they know how to roof lol
@dogtaxi812
@dogtaxi812 3 жыл бұрын
@@bongcrusha420 Yep, with ya on that.
@DQ-su6qf
@DQ-su6qf 3 жыл бұрын
@@dogtaxi812 30 years of successful experience is not to be laughed at.If you’re concerned about moisture then simply add some breather vents…About 20 years ago I was asked to appear on a GAF video introducing Grand Sequoia, a presidential copy, they were thrilled with the roof until I told them it would flop, the GAF “experts”weren’t happy with me..I’d suggested an optional 5”/15” type side lap like presidential, they wouldn’t listen until a year latter when they called me to say they were going ahead with my suggestion…So much for the Experts..
@dustinlogan7956
@dustinlogan7956 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly cannot believe you torched to plastic cement 🤨. I hate to criticize but the torching technique is horrible that roof would be covered in blisters parts of them rolls not even seeing heat .
@carlosdavila2110
@carlosdavila2110 2 жыл бұрын
RUN - RUN - RUN from these CLOWN
@pangallie
@pangallie 4 жыл бұрын
My sons does that exact thing. You tell them not too much and they doy the opposite. 🤬😁
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@JoeDeeper
@JoeDeeper 5 жыл бұрын
How much would you charge in labor on something like this?
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
Depending on a lot of factors. If it is a plain roof with no preparation and you could start torching almost right away, then around $5 p sq ft. That includes the material - Self adhering base, Cap sheet with granules and commercial drip edge. That is the basis, but then other factors must be taken into account. The bigger the the roof. the less per square feet. More obstacles, the more per sq ft. Then also, the area where you are. If you are in a city, like New York, or in Connecticut, then the price almost doubles. If you work in small towns across America, then the price goes down. I hope you get the idea.
@johnlieb1
@johnlieb1 5 жыл бұрын
u really should remove the rock so u can repair any defects in the field of the old roof.
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
There were no defects. You can tell from looking inside the building up. Your thoughts are most common to many as you. As long as there is a nice solid flat surface, I don't see why you can't install a roof over it. Your thought is to remove a solid flat surface to another solid surface (the substrate) to install a new roof. That is the most common thinking. But always more costly too. If the cost was not the issue, we might as well remove the entire structure and start over again. What about specs where they require 4 -5 layers of Torch Down? Your thought would be it can't be done? BTW, I appreciate your comment. I am just trying to let you see it is not always necessary to remove a layer of roofing.
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