Common Mistake Players Make Learning to Throw in Disc Golf | Beginner Tips and Tutorials

[@DarkRoastDiscGolf]

Tis the hula hula drill brotha

[@RobbieCDiscgolf]

Thank You boss!! I knew Josh had to have a video on it!!

[@seabas22]

@@RobbieCDiscgolf Reciprocating Dingle Arm and Double Dragon Drill.

[@rk9515]

This video right here is one of the main reasons why I subbed. You not only show the reason why some disc golfs can't throw far, but it's not because they are throwing high-speed discs or something like that. It is the fact that the fundamental stuff is incorrect and you're trying to the best you can to correct the most common mistakes new players make that might ccause them to quit early on. Thank you, Robbie.

[@JayDeeTee]

I just had my first live training and the trainer stopped everything I learned from YT. That day nothing worked....one day later less reach back more whip good pressure and athletic stance and damn it feels like there is something going on💪

[@JayDeeTee]

The best advice was not reaching back but turn shoulder to 90 degrees and nearly 10 o clock release point with the feeling that the disc rips out of the hand and of course hips first. I use a strap to train whip and hip first

[@notsure1350]

I dont have a good drive, but I play well enough where it didnt make me want to quit. I can maybe on a good day throw about 300 feet and I really don't care if thats good or not. I just play with my friends for fun anyway.

[@JayDeeTee]

@@notsure1350 the best player on every course is the guy or lady that has the most fun 🤩

[@michaelcushman]

Robbie, this is your best content to date. Others wont see its beauty. Wisdom often falls on deaf ears. I've been watching your channel for a while. Your understanding has blossomed. I'm PDGA 308. I agree with your observations. We in DG need to stop talking about "throwing" the disc. Teach from the beginning, "whipping" the disc. This is formally, conservation of momentum. Feeling the hit spot is the snapping of the whip. It applies to all throws, even putting. The second force available to everyone regardless of athletic ability is elastic potential, as you mention. A relaxed muscle stretches more than a flexed one. Flexing the back muscles and core, while the hips slide forward and turn at the moment of maximum stretch releases the elastic potential. The "slingshot" or rubber band snaps. Just these two forces get people to 300, any age or athleticism. This is the foundation for adding athletic skills in legs to increase linear force and rotational force, etc. That take people to 400+. You understand that throwing with the arm and muscle tension in the arm are the biggest barriers to distance. Bravo! Thanks for putting this out there. Let's hope these ideas spread.

[@jakec5550]

I never thought about "focusing" on my off shoulder to formalize the back swing. That makes so much sense now. Once I get some time, I think I'm going out to the field to make sure and dial it in a little bit and warm up, then out to the course to see what I can do with it. Thanks again, Robbie!

[@stevenesoderberg6928]

Nick another awesome video! I'm 65 and been playing for about 4 months. This sport is a blast and makes us old dudes young again!!

[@JohnKelly6x6Design]

Love your channel. I'm a 55 yr old youtube junkie, and I started playing last year. You're by far the most relatable coach. And believe me, I watch everything disc golf! Thanks, and I really hope your channel continues to grow and support you.

[@cibrinyark339]

Love seeing lots of different people getting help. Definitely helps seeing real people working through real difficulties and how to overcome them

[@knockkers]

I think you just saved me from quitting DG. I have been playing for 3+ years and have seen very little improvement over the last 2 years. Found myself asking why I even play if I can't improve. I know my form is all jacked up, and this is just one of many things I need to work on. But you are the first person I have seen explain it this way and I greatly appreciate your efforts!

[@Photologistic]

That’s just a stall. I’ve been playing much longer, you will get better if you don’t quit.

[@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777]

Do you ever practice without even throwing the disc? visualize helps if you are stagnant - - Personally I started last fall - and I set a goal of 3 years to even consider rating myself. I live in Canada - so we only have small window of daily play due to the winter . You will plateau naturally in any games you play so don't be hard on yourself have fun is the goal.

[@LilSeizures]

I've been throwing with my arm rather than launching with my body this entire time. Most informative video on distance form I've seen yet. The multiple examples of actual people's bad form and how you see their mistakes makes it so much easier to tell what I'm doing wrong.

[@Hb-ss9tm]

I’ve been “muscling” the disc for a while now and have been hard stuck around the 300-320 range and with only 2 days I’m up to 363 your always giving great advice thank you for being so amazing

[@MrEric295]

This video is so perfect. When I start dg I watch 1000's of videos about a far reachback. For the last 2 years I have been muscling my throw to a comfortable 250 to 300 with terrible spin and my left arm just getting in the way. Thanks for explaining it so perfectly

[@Eaglemadhatter]

This Eric has a very similar experience

[@steve5873]

@RobbieCDiscgolf thank you for all your support and advice! Your channel is second to none when it comes to newbies in the disc scene!!! Thank you thank you THANK YOU!!!!

[@jaredhorton7938]

i’m at about 415 and have been getting pretty sore after playing, knew i was doing something wrong, finally figured it out! thanks robbie! cant wait to go practice today!

[@scottw5253]

Brother, your dedication to putting all of this information together and your obvious passion for trying to help out the desperate and near clueless newbie masses with uploads like this one is APPRECIATED SO MUCH! You're one of the good ones. God bless and thank you so much.

[@jeffprice9105]

16:46 is why we all watch Robbie - Great video! Really nice Flappy Bird

[@nixx1195]

hey man i’m 14 (started playing a little less than a year ago) and reached 450 ft the other week and you were a big part of helping me get there. keep making these amazing videos.

[@Aigler6]

I believe this is my struggle. Coming from an athletic background, I do understand the rubber band effect. However, I still want to use my muscles to throw the disc. I will be attempting the swing low exercise and then using it on the course. Thank you Robbie!

[@nimblegoat]

I never threw stones as a kid - throwing a cricket or baseball is a whip like action even playing badminton or mixed social softball in my thirties/forties - it took me awhile to warm up and loosen my body - funny thing is at my high school probably worse than average throw - yet I could judo throw in fights and won a school shotput and arm wrestling comp - so yes I believe this is way for me to go - should go back to swimming for fun to loosen up though as have very inflexible back I've seen people throw balls further than me - with just a casual forearm whip

[@Siilverpants]

Just standing in front of my computer, watching you do the "how to fix it" movement and trying to repeat it myself without anything in my hands, i can already feel how much more explosive this is, what in the actual f! I don't think any discgolf video or coach explanation ever has hit me as hard as that, and other points in this video. Great stuff Robbie

[@Podderich]

I just started Disc Golf 2 weeks ago. Never hit a course, never threw into a Basket and only have a starter Set. I never thought about my left shoulder position and stuff. I will try what happens because right now I only reach about 230ft consistently with my discs. And after 1 or 2 hours in the field my arm hurts. There's so much to learn on how to properly throw a backhand, it is incredible. I have many things to correct and do better, especially my footwork (right foot is not automatically placed in the right position compared to the middle cross step) and hip engagement. I subbed, hope I learn a lot more from your videos ^^

[@arlingtonguy54]

Yes! I had heard most of the points you mention but haven't seen it presented in such a concise and understandable manner. All the pieces have come together here. Great video. More please?

[@nebnworb]

I’ll an old timer (PDGA #22644) and learned with rounding and muscling. This video is great and the left shoulder tip is great. One thing I’ve noticed is that when I muscle the throw, my throwing arm gets in front or leads and I have a tough time engaging my left side. It also prevents from getting that good lag of a loose throwing arm to whip through. Keep up the good work, Robbie!

[@Nova-BlackStrat]

Been playing disc golf for 15 years, and this video explains very well, what it took me years to figure out, and does so in a way where it even still helped me visualize more clearly/simply what I’ve struggled to teach myself. Very great perspective/way to think and explain this concept!

[@calebschmucker3034]

I can not say how much I appreciate your content Robbie! I started watching your videos when I was trying to refine my backhand - it was right as you were starting your channel. And now several years later, I feel a lot better about my game as a whole, but I still always get something out of all your videos! Thanks for all the time and knowledge you share, and for doing it in such a fun, humble way. You’re the best, sir!!

[@Samwiscomb]

As a recovering 400’ muscler, I appreciate the work you’ve put in here to help me understand how to calm/slow down.

[@matthewmilam4760]

Robbie, I was skeptical. I have seen a lot of distance form videos lately. Watching you help those people with their form really clicked with me. Can’t wait for some warm weather to get out for some field work. Thanks and keep it up

[@lancelubin727]

Love the in person vids. Brilliant!

[@PWheat23]

This whole video makes total sense. I've been trying to learn how to throw my left arm through. I've always focused on the arm and it felt very forced. I'm going to now focus on my left shoulder blade and keeping everything else loose, tweak where needed and see what happens. You're the man Robbie C, thanks!

[@jasondetary2496]

Robbie - I’ve never posted anything anywhere. Been playing 9 years and you just called out everything that explains my form. Huge THANK YOU! Best form review review video I’ve ever see !

[@timothyvigil3129]

Wow, so I watched this video a few weeks ago, and it honestly changed things for me. I've been trying to fix my form for months and though I fixed some things this seemed to be the missing piece. The last two weeks have been the best progress I've seen in ages. Everything feels more comfortable and I'm getting 10-15% more distance from each disc. I never comment on KZbin videos but this information means a ton to me. Thanks my guy!

[@TommyThwack]

Didn’t see anyone mention this yet. That drill is the twirly bird 2.0. Any time I’m showing a new player how to throw that’s definitely where I start. Super helpful drill. Great video!

[@TheMrShamity]

This was such a great reminder to stay loose. Been playing for almost 3 yrs with no improvement on distance in about 2 years due to focusing too much on the right side of my body. Just the other day I was thinking about focusing on my opposite shoulder, and this made it make so much more sense. Thanks for the great content!

[@chrisbruchak4519]

Came to your channel because I enjoyed your presence on the foundation channel and you've earned a subscriber my friend. What an absolute pleasure of a human being to learn from.

[@RobbieCDiscgolf]

Welcome!! Glad to have ya!!

[@gagefend7424]

i don’t think i’ve seen a single video on this ever. this is exactly what i’ve been looking for every single video just says power grip and launch it straight but nothing tells you about the other half of your body or HOW to engage your hips. i saw your forehand video on foundation and you have the best educational content for anyone. thank you so much.

[@waycar4]

Best video yet!! I am 5' 8" with a muscular build, oh and 60 years old. I can drive about 300-325 but feel that there's more there. I believe i do throw with my arm and lose the whole left side momentum of my hips and off shoulder, any more videos like this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you sir.

[@Mville88]

Broooo!!! I was so discouraged last night because after about 3 months (and lots of practice and videos) I wasn't getting any better on distance. Stuck at like 280-300 max on flat ground no matter what I tried. This morning after watching this video and only focusing mostly on the left shoulder I hit 350 with my Saint Pro. (Only disc I was throwing). Can't wait to get out and try with my other discs and build off of that change. Thanks so much!

[@lucascantrell1068]

Phenomenal, thank you! I rarely get to play with anyone above my skill level so I rarely get critiqued. Knowing I can/need to make improvements I came here. Can't wait to go do some field work.

[@Jonse70]

"New" to disc golf (6 months) and I must admit that I was thinking distance in every shot at the beginning. Gave me shoulder and elbow problems since I thought this was all about power 🙄 I watched this and thought "no way" ... Hesitantly I took my bag, went out to test this. Yes I use a camera as well 😉 After a few days I'm back and I subscribed to this fine gentleman. Thank you sir. 130m are now easy with no pain 🙏

[@Tekila0]

I have my first tournament tomorrow, time to go out and completely switch my form. Thanks for the tips Robbie!

[@Tekila0]

@John Rambo that sounds intense! I'm excited, should be a good time

[@RobbieCDiscgolf]

Oh nooooo 😅😅😅

[@Asands62]

Great video. Thank you Robby. There’s the box drill that keeps your right arm from reaching back and out,but that one kind of seems robotic and stiff. Domo Arigato ..I definitely like the flow of your lesson. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍I would like to add something that helped me out tremendously .if you draw a line to the target, the position of my feet is staggered with my front foot on the left of the line and my back foot on the right of the line , that allows plenty of room or space for my disk to travel on that line instead of around the line to avoid my body in the way. Thanks again for the awesome content. Hang loose 😉and take care.🙏

[@djrabin]

Excellent tutorial, Robbie. What really hit home for me was the in-person lessons and you showing and saying it over and over again. As for future content, it would be great to see a progression from this to adding the x-step timing and picking/finding your release point. I've been an arm thrower for the first 5 years of my disc golf career, this is gonna be the year I start to find the power. Looking forward to meeting you at the Northeast DG Expo in March!!

[@mikethomas5451]

Another great video, I hope I can implement this when I can get outside. I figure I will be coming back to watch this again.

[@MonkeyFreeZone]

Thanks for the thoughts and illustrations, Robbie - good stuff here.

[@dustinthewind2932]

Lots of knowledge and perfect explanation. I think you might have found my problem. Thanks for the tips ill try to put them in action today!

[@QuantumFlux_22]

The first person I have seen to put it in a way that makes sense to me. going to try this for sure as I know I have been strong arming it. Thanks dude!

[@walroz87]

Holy ish Robbie - always digg your vids and love the way you teach but the focus on my off shoulder was a whole new world to me ! Thanks for another great tool in the box

[@weekendwarrior7117]

I appreciate this. I’ll be working on this swing thought today when I practice. Thanks Robbie

[@shanecoppedge1381]

Such good info. I appreciate all your videos man! Keep up the tips and walkthroughs.

[@guitarlosindy]

Ive been playing off and on since the late 80's and Im wowed! This actually worked. I was one of those reachers. Thanks so much for the extra 80 feet, so far!

[@naclamore]

Dude! I have been watching so many form videos and.... that part about rocking and feeling the sway..... I just tried some dry runs with a towel and actualy got a pop and it did not hurt my elbow when I released. I have been trying to hulk it out and could not figure out why my arm was hurting. Thankyou for showing me form over strength. Robbie thank you for helping me. Please keep putting content like this out. ( I hope this helps to bring the joy back to the game.) Now am off to my flowtrole addiction. Keep them comming man.

[@mrsmiffel72]

You’re video was amazing! I’ve watched so many tutorials and you made it click for me. Please do some similar on the lower body. Thank you

[@Sicktus]

Amazing. Went to the park today to give this a try and it immediately helped me throw better/further/more consistent.

[@subpardiscgolf9473]

Can't wait to try this! I've never thought of focusing on the left shoulder blade. I still tend to muscle the discs a lot. Thanks Robbie!

[@John336NLT]

This video is what I need. I have been doing the very thing you point out not to do, and that was reaching, pushing, and pulling with my arm. I never thought of the shoulder movement. Thank you.

[@danielrosborne]

Great video! I've never heard the idea of pulling your left shoulder back, but that does help your right arm be more relaxed without thinking about it.

[@keepsafebandpa]

Watched this on my lunch break….tried after work, this was the biggest game changer to my driving so far…feeling very thankful for the part you play in the disc golf community!

[@rockriversniper]

Awesome video. Been having a few things click for me lately and this video is helping fill the holes in my form

[@JDCfusethrow]

Me and my buddy have been working on our forms for a while now and wish you were here in Lynchburg to show us what we are doing wrong. Great video thanks

[@igloboy]

wow, thanks for this. Someone showed this to me 2 years ago. Did not get it then after 2 days. But after a couple of minutes watching your video I understand the basics of how to do it and what I have done wrong. Thank you! =)

[@hunterroutley2996]

One of the best form review/form help videos I’ve seen on KZbin. Can’t wait to start incorporating this into my own form work.

[@williamharvey7076]

You have provided some key elements that make sense. I’ve been power driving, using my throwing arm to power through shots. I kept seeing that I should whip without understanding how to begin the journey. 100 something videos I have watched and yours finally provides me the basics to understand how to fix my basics. Thank you!

[@jeffboswell68]

Amazing instructional vid.....I've subbed!

[@MikeHeavin]

Would you please consider making a similar video for those of us who strictly throw forehand?

[@TMD994]

as someone who started out throwing almost exclusively forehand, if you haven't seen it, Eagle's forehand clinic video from a couple years ago is top notch and really breaks things down nicely

[@U8TP]

Thank you. Watching this video made the light bulb above my head explode. I couldn’t even make it 100% through before heading to the park to try it out. I’m back now though to finish. It even helped me improve my forehand.

[@rk9515]

Hey Robbie, coming back to this video two weeks later and I got to say THANK YOU. After viewing this video it made me think of my Disc golf form and restart it entirely. I can now throw faather then I used to and less scramble shots. Thank you so much!

[@kentslawson5519]

Robbie - Holy Shit, this is GOLD I think you are underestimating the value of this video. I sincerely think this is the most important form lesson on KZbin. This is the 450’ barrier. For the uninitiated, every 50’ of distance is harder to get than the last. New players always get hung up at 350, then 400, and few people break 450’. Robbie was spot on that you WILL get stuck between 4 and 500 when you pull, strong arm, or start the chainsaw. BUT THATS WHAT EVERYONE TEACHES. Then you have to unlearn those habits and it sucks. Another key point that I think could be emphasized a bit more. You have to reach more out than back. If back is 180 degrees, you need to reach closer to 120. That allows you to rotate further back or ‘earlier’ in the throw. You don’t create enough space by extending straight back. Notice how much more your off shoulder pulls your throwing arm in, when you reach out as opposed to back. Seriously 90% of players won’t appreciate how important that video is.

[@omega_discgolf]

Thanks for the advice that left shoulder thing has already help me! Still working on staying loose

[@homerclark9553]

Rat tail towel technique, was how I was taught to drive my disc. This video opened my eyes on how to improve my drive

[@Frostydudemanguy]

This is with out a doubt the most helpful video I have ever watched relating to form. Bravo!

[@MrZwolle]

I LOVE how well you explain how to not use your arm but instead use your body so your arm will be more "whip" like. But how do you rotate your hip and shoot your left knee forward like that? I feel I do something wrong when I try to copy your left leg when you are approatching the "power pocket". (4min 47sec). I'm definitely going to try this out this weekend! Best Regards from Norway! ❤

[@daemon8173]

Amazing video, honestly. Thank you Robbie‼️ already working on it in my living room

[@drewg3087]

Man the 2023 Foundation quality is awesome and steps you wayyy up! Congrats again. If I come to your shop can I get form tips too? Thanks for your help and teaching the last couple years. It’s helped my game so much.

[@JustBBlunt]

Left shoulder tip....chef's kiss. Heh. Great video.

[@sebmeunier3528]

I was already subscribed, now I clicked that bell! Hope you'll get somewhere west this year, would love such coaching! Beginner Yankit to 280ft power :-D

[@enobaham8837]

I am excited to try this out. Hoping this can help me break through this distance wall I have been stuck on

[@jeffsabine9882]

This video has had a huge impact on my game. Thanks a million, Robbie. I wish I’d watched this on day one of my interest in the sport; It would have saved me injuries and frustration. Keep up the great work and excellent content.

[@mikemagrath1727]

I dunno, Robbie. This may indeed be the most revolutionary video ever, and it's absolutely something that's never been put on the internet before. I wonder if there's a similar magic-bullet-style solution for forehand distance? I tried to do the practice that you recommended in which you release on super-steep hyzers and slowly flatten them out, but I struggled with it. It seems like if I put any amount of hyzer on a forehand, the disc pops out of my grip way too early and goes directly into the ground. In its current form, I only trust my forehand for upshots under 70ft, which I recognize as being the distance that good players start running putts (but putting is a whole 'nother can of worms). Great content, Robbie. Same as always.

[@damorgman]

My son just invited me to disc golf and got me a starter set for Father's day. Great video so I can hopefully start correctly, instead of having to fix later.

[@richardlee196]

Incredible advice. Can’t express how appreciative I am for your content. Definitely one of the best on KZbin. Thanks Robbie.

[@inrealitydiscgolf13]

Watched your video... went back and watched my own video of me throwing. Wow! I can definitely see how I'm not dropping that shoulder on the throw and strong-arming the disc. Thank you for the video! Can't wait to get back out to do some field work and get my form worked out!

[@zetsumei1017]

The lawnmower technique and muscling the disk is literally what I do. I think my x step is pretty good. I'm definitely going to try and throw the disc relaxed. I'm 100% tight all the way through.

[@RatProblemRS]

i’ve been here since the beginning and i gotta hand it to you robbie, this is the best informative video you’ve ever made. cheers!

[@Hburgolson]

Great video! Can’t wait to try!

[@cottonkeef5633]

You're a great teacher man. I finally get it

[@discgolfbilly]

Robbie C., THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH(IN CAPS!!!!), for making this beginner tutorial for disc golf throws. The major importance of keeping the arms loose and getting that back shoulder up and driving down into the brace leg and foot is priceless!. The difference is evident and I for one will attest to that. Thank you again Robbie C. for all the disc golf instruction you have give to us players trying to get better at the game. Before you know it, and I will spread the word of your channel, your 55K number of subscribers will be at 100K soon!.☺Most Sincerely, Bill M., PDGA member 7378 and life long promoter of disc golf since 1993☺

[@petterolsen1570]

I think this is by far my biggest problem (among other things), really forcing the arm and i really struggle to get over 200 feet with my backhand. My forehand is better. Only played for a few months so there are tons of improvement to be done. Also a lefty.

[@donniecryptdough9513]

I love your channel. My buddy Jacob Skellenger told me to check you out. Been watching for about a year now. Your form breakdown helped a lot. Hopefully I’ll get an in person lesson some day.

[@earlthomas6295]

Hey Robbie...just watch some Terry Miller coverage and I noticed Jen Allen does the 'swing low' with her arms in her form. Might be a good one to tip people off as far as showing which pro does it pretty well.

[@rym3165]

This video may have saved my game. Idgaf what that means for anyone else. Much appreciation for this video. Thank you

[@SteveSwann]

This is helpful! I have slow arm speed but have a snappy, high rpm backhand roller. For some reason that motion is looser and more whip-like, but I can't translate that relaxed movement into my backhand throw. I often spin off the front of the box too. More like this. Thanks!

[@phengyang2929]

I saw this 4 months ago and re watched it again today. Still finding tips from this video! Thank you!

[@jeffrobbie7691]

Robbie, I’ve been watching many videos from various KZbin disc golf people and have gathered a lot of info that has helped me. Focusing on my off shoulder going back has instantly made my throw feel better, I won’t say that I’m killing it on the course, while it takes less effort to throw, my timing is off. Field practice will fix this, not a scoring round😂😂

[@hockeyhighlights8119]

I really liked you showing clips of your instruction to a few disc golfers. I would love to see more of that.

[@Smokechaser92]

🤯 this was amazing. I can't believe I've never realized how simple yet effective the off shoulder bit you were talking about could be

[@indianOutlaw87.5]

I feel like I’ve had a eureka moment hearing you talk about pulling the left shoulder back (right shoulder in my case as a lefty) excited to hit the field in the morning and try it out

[@drag91dime]

This is the exactly problem i have and the worst part is I've thrown maybe a hand full of times where its ripped out of my hand but was never able to actively recreate it. Hopefully this information will help me to make it more consistent in my game. Great content thank you!!!!!!!

[@jobbybohnson6818]

Thanks for the pointers!

[@squidsoup17]

great video, i was doing this exact thing. Going to work on fixing it now.

[@RGMDG]

One of your best videos yet Robbie (and you have MANY good videos). So helpful to me and many others I am sure.

[@rossthomas271]

Love the video. Been working on just this exact thing but find myself rounding or throwing way to the left. For left hand back hand. Any ideas?

[@Meadespeed]

I like Robbie’s explanation of the off arm movement. I haven’t seen that before, looking forward to giving it a try.

[@mylesgraber8449]

This was one of things I thought I had been doing, but as I changed stuff in my throw I reverted back to bad habits and went away from. This offseason has mostly been spent drilling that disc placement and arm position in my head, and I think seeing this gives me another good way to really think about what I need to do. Thanks!