How I Was Gripping the Disc Wrong and Losing All My Power | Disc Golf Tips for Beginners

[@nizmodatank823]

Ahhh bummer the garbage truck forgot to take my putting game 😢

[@TrevorRS05]

Had no room because he stopped at my place first

[@reddwithtwods]

Just checked. Same here

[@chadbrooks8473]

Man that makes so much sense now. That's why my longest throws have been really hard core grip locked to the right 😅.

[@marktalgo3591]

Hey Robbie glad you found out about this. I too struggled with this same issue as the general feeling of wanting to be loose naturally can make one have a loose grip, and this gets glossed over constantly in a lot of coaching content. One key thing I want to point out that hopefully doesn't happen to you because I remember being at this exact step you are at - but just be aware. Now that you feel the real power of the disc ripping out there can be a tendency at that point for your arm to tense up a little bit during the reach back (subconsciously this makes sense, you want to grip and rip so your forearm says GRIPPP!). This tension (if you notice this happening) is actual counter productive to the whip effect we are trying to get. I have found the best way to have the best of both worlds is to have a firm but fairly casual grip during the reach back and then really dig in into as you are actually uncoiling. This tension might not be an issue for you but just wanted to point it out to you or anyone else who just found great snap - holding onto the disc hard is what you should be doing but don't sacrifice looseness within the arm itself. It really should all be in your hand only, the arm and shoulder need to be as loose as possible (which is actually harder to accomplish than one might think). Good luck on your journey to 500!

[@abilenediscdyeguy385]

A friend of mine used to watch my throws and could see on my distance shots where I was losing distance. He would always say "hold onto it a little longer". I always thought, if I do that its gonna grip lock. Once I understood what he was meaning, it helped me alot. For me "to hold onto it a little longer" meant gripping it tighter like in the video. I also have very strong hamds being a machinist for so many years and also thought if I grip it that tight, its not coming out and i was "helping" the disc. Getting consistent distance now. Great video, love the content

[@hippinakki]

Thank you Robbie. These couple videos have been the exact problems I've had for years. The grip. As a someone who got so affraid of the shots going 45deg to the right. This helped a lot. It has been hard to find help about the grip before. Keep up the positivity as you always do.

[@stevenjam7119]

Tried this, went from a 2 finger grip to 3 finger power grip but really pushing it into my palm. Also sped up my run up and form. Gained 50-75 feet with my graces and they also fly way straighter

[@mortenhalkjrjacobsen3621]

Thanks a lot Robbie can't wait to get to the field to test thes on out. And huge thanks to Mike for teaching this stuff and letting you put it out.

[@johnroberts1009]

I was having grip issues as well. Someone that I played with that could throw over 400 ft. Gave me a tip. He said use a two finger grip instead of a four finger. It made me grip it harder because I thought it would come out early. What happened was it ripped out and made a small snap sound and it went a little further than normal with some zip plus I was surprised it wasn’t as off line as I thought it would be. I used it the rest of the day and it helped. Now I use a three finger grip but go back to the two finger when I start to lose that snap feeling. Can I now throw 400 plus. NO, but that tip helped me accomplish what you talked about here and gain about ten to fifteen feet on my power drives more often than not. Thanks again for sharing this wonderful information with us all. Keep it up. 😎

[@decentdiscgolf]

Robbie you are THE BOMB! For so long I was wondering why my discs werent rotating as much as my forehands. I knew I had a problem but couldnt fix it. I was so focused on staying loose that I didnt realize I had conditioned myself to "help" the disc by opening my hand on backhand throws. This was a game changer and it was so simple! Thank you for all your hard work! Also come play Knoxville and lets be friends 😊

[@garretlizotte6288]

I caught your video first. 😅 Watching on Robbie's channel now! Thank you for the tips! Looking forward to trying them this season!!

[@arkaneknight2208]

this Video is Powerful. I just figured this out around the middle of last season. It really does come down to Trusting process of gripping and ripping. Believe in yourselves! Thanks Robbie

[@Mojos058]

Seriously, just saying the release should come at 10:00 made a huge difference for me. Knowing that, I can pay more attention to footwork and develop consistency. Not sure why I never heard that before.

[@TheTopheradams]

You make me want to head straight to the field and do some work. I have been in the form struggle for a while.

[@timw594]

I'm over 50 and started DG 1.5 yrs ago. This is the best video and i believe the key to unlocking distance for many... Which is to discover what that release feels like and then find a way to release the same way with toned down effort and more fluid form. I was stuck muscling straight line shots to about 370 ft... But in struggling w improving form I had the occasional well over 425ft with less effort... Most of them were slips during the last plant and pull thru my pull thru in which my fall instinct triggered holding on the disc much harder... I ended up holding the disc so much longer and it didn't leave my body until my arm felt far more extended and chest far more open in the pectoral muscle during the release... I feel the reason this is missing for many like me is related to how some tutorials teach the pull through rather than the end release and how it should feel...

[@Lankybrit52]

Great stuff. I’ve been holding the thumb and pointer finger harder and leaving the others looser. This is helping me out.

[@darinladd5312]

totally. the power grip is rarely used these days, but when i do i feel the weight of the disc pulling away from my loose fingers. it actually gives more touch. and, when not power-gripping, i extend my two middle fingers for stability only. i'm pretty much just holding with the pinch. oh by the way, putting got way better, too.

[@davidduncan3439]

Robbie, you’re a national treasure! Thanks to you and your coach for sharing the Love! You are appreciated by many.

[@brackeneuler6415]

I was really getting down on myself that I could not gain distance but your latest videos have really helped. Your always awesome thanks.

[@drager9398]

Added 40 steady 60 or more sometimes during this series. Thanks robbie just birded a 425 from 15 ft.

[@shawnfisher6252]

bro, I feel like I've learned more from this series and seeing the process. thank you

[@CoLLiSioN60]

After watching these videos I have added 50ft to my max bh distance! I went from max 320ft to 370ft! I still have some work to go, but im seeing results. Thanks Robbie!

[@ComeatMEOW]

Hey mate, I'm exactly where you were at 320ft have you found any extra from the 370? If so how is it going?

[@travelingtregdg]

This is great! It was the piece I was missing. Everything looked good on my form changes and I still wasn’t getting power on my bh. I’m a great putter which requires the touch of letting go at the “right time”. And my brain was thinking there was some touch on power drives too. I went to the field and instantly my power drives were ripping. Everything is ripping. Thanks Robbie

[@derugut]

I do love watching discgolf videos to get better but the main reason is knowledge. I love coaching, coached a bunch of sports and starting to get my groove with discgolf. have had beginner throw far and accuracte within a few sessions. its been so fun. and you are a big reason why. the insight you give into form and function make me a better player and coach. thank you.

[@dailyfermentations7197]

I got the finesse. This is awesome advise for advancing form! She needs more power! Would've loved to see some of those proper whips that you're getting into. It seems like unlocking the next level for me.

[@jcgarcia1931]

That was super helpful. Been learning a new 3 finger power grip and it only works if you crush down on the flight plate with your thumb. Basically, super tight which provides the tension you speak of (finger pulled back and snapping forward). It's the final piece to the whip cracking puzzle. Thanks for validating that with this video.

[@samjones3875]

I recently have added distance by changing my grip from focusing on curling all my fingers under the rim to pinching the disc between my thumb and finger. Thanks for the video. Cheers

[@darinladd5312]

yep. that's pretty much it, man.

[@BigPapa2613]

Thanks Robbie I've been using your grip tip and my throws are getting better

[@discpl4yer]

Best video I’ve ever watched on grip!

[@CharlesJWillard]

Sir Robbie, You are the greatest. Your vids always have great content, great delivery and great videography. If you're ever in coastal Texas, please let us know. We have some park style courses that are tons of fun to play.

[@Steventhrowsbirds]

My guy! I absolutely appreciate this video! You just gave me a cheat code. Already impressed with my drives after 1 day of trying it. Second day was even better. I am so thankful for you and your time. You have helped my game 100%. If I ever win a tournament I’m giving you a shoutout! Lol. Between this video and Gannon showing his putting technique, my game is already way better.

[@briankrenzien7777]

Thanks, this is good info with understandable disclaimers.

[@neilkirkpatrick6232]

What's up Robbie!? It's Neil, your #1 fan out in Las Vegas, met you on a visit to my family there in B'ham back during Christmas/New Years. Love your videos bro, thank you for the content.

[@henriklonden4545]

Spectacular insight. I will test it out

[@andrewbaxter6923]

I haven’t been on the channel in a min…damn, y’all just went Sigmund Freud on this 😂and I love it! Thank you for taking the game deep

[@TheCookiechris]

Thanks a lot Robbie. Very interesting topic!

[@user-ko1qo7qw8r]

Having a crap day. The chains at the end cracked me up. Thanks man.

[@Notimp0rtant523]

Haven’t been around for a few weeks but I like the new intro clip

[@stevenosmond2168]

I'm glad you are sharing this and that your coach agreed on letting us in on how he is helping you. I may never hit 300 ft. consistently, If I can hit it when I need it the most, ill be satisfied. Thank you both.

[@joshuasmith9528]

You can do it. Once it clicks, it clicks. I was lucky to get 265 up until a week ago. Getting consistent with form, and developing a routine, where it becomes natural and knowing your discs will boost your distance and accuracy. I’m flying past holes I used to struggle with. Keep it up!

[@stevenosmond2168]

@@joshuasmith9528 Thanks alot, I'll keep trying.

[@joshuasmith9528]

@@stevenosmond2168 I’m 50 years old. Started playing 30 years ago before the internet or availability to watch pro dg. Played on and off over the years, but now I got the bug for real, and am determined to be a good golfer as an old guy. I’ve had to unlearn a lot and go through the awkwardness of developing my form so I can stay healthy and play without a ton of pain. Over the past year, my game is just now starting to become somewhat respectable.

[@stevenosmond2168]

@@joshuasmith9528 I hear you. I'm 64 started 9 years ago. You are striving for the exact same thing that I am. I'm going to keep pushing my limits. I got my first Ace last year. So keep it going.

[@markhumphrey8894]

​​@@stevenosmond2168 59 yo here and rarely hit 300ft with driver. I just threw 200t with putters so I don't know why can't hit 300ft with a shryke. Maybe I will now. I would think I could throw a 7 speed like an Eagle over 300ft. Maybe not.

[@ML-mi9uz]

I learned about the hard grip via practicing my fan grip throws. Slowly implementing it to my drive but that fear factor you mentioned is holding me back. Thanks for this video RobbieC.

[@JJGL13]

When I learned prooer grip it truely changed everything, my form became more relaxed and proper and everything I throw now feels so much easier.

[@petefuessle2048]

yo RC - i dig the channel ! Question are you saying the grip being tight at the pinch between your index and thumb or all your fingers... wouldnt any amount of pressure that is applied beyond what the throw requires , and especially at other fingers besides the pinch, only create unnecessary friction that would inhibit revolutions as the disc swings around the hing or pinch in your grip point? Also it limits the ability for the wrist to produce spin since the tight grip creates tension in the wrist and forearm. I had the opposite problem many years, and I found that the tighness of the grip should be loose until just prior to the hit point and a pinch grip allowed for me to get many more revolutions.

[@filipcza]

This is exactly what I found after 20 years of disc golfing. Last summer I worked on my speed using a net and speed meter. I had trouble getting past 90kph. It seemed whatever technique modifications I did, I had no improvement with launch velocity. It was like a wall I couldn't get past. Until I tried gripping the disc REAL hard. And then, I broke my previous limit time after time, easily. All this time, my problem(or one of them) was too weak grip. The power my body generated didn't get to the disc because I did not hold on to it hard enough. I was leaking power in the last chain of the movement and I found out this by accident, by trying everything I could and getting instant feedback with my speed meter. Don't get me wrong I have always gripped very firmly, but now I was REALLY squeezing the disc like never before and instant results. It may seem counter intuitive at first but it just that the body generates so much power in the throw that you just have to grip like a maniac if you wish to pass that power all the way to the disc, so that it won't leave your hand before all the power is transferred to it.

[@scottkuppers]

friend taught me this a while ago... blew my mind ( counter intuitive ) and it works.

[@JohnDubU]

Great info, thanks for putting this together, much appreciated. Smash.

[@dennisobrien2399]

Thanks Robbie, I have struggled with how to have a non-tensed arm and firm grip for some time, really looking forward to hearing how to do it!

[@shaned.6741]

See. THIS is what I dont understand. I've been told that the pressure should be applied right after the "hit". Also, take your off hand (non throwing hand) and grab thw forearm of your throwing arm. Now with your throwing hand apply pressure( like griping the disc). Start with your index finger and thumb together. Then move to middle finger all the way to your pinky. You'll notice that with the same amount of pressure the index thumb combo uses the least amount of forearm muscles which causes less tension vs more strength. Aka a front loaded grip. Pinch grip works really well.

[@BruceSimmons]

Thanks Robbie...

[@dangossen4937]

Congrats on your win on the debate night!!!

[@seymourglass26]

I like fixing grip, because I can do it before the throw and then focus on all the other important stuff. Let's GO!

[@IceBergTV]

Gonna go give this a try after some morning coffee

[@hunterj0517]

Hey Robbie, I just got into disc golf and have been watching Foundation and saw you in a few videos. Crazy that you are from Alabama. Have you ever played the courses up in Huntsville?

[@rafaelgt88]

That shirt is awesome! Where did you get it?

[@andreasericsson6989]

Searching for both accuracy and distance at the same time is not only doable, it's really, really helpful. Without an idea of which line you want to take, you'll have no idea what your attempts to add power is doing to your form, and you'll have no sane way to keep track of things like runup, timing and release point. Seeing where the disc goes tells a lot about where you're losing power.

[@nronayne]

I agree. When I coach people, I always tell them the goal is not to learn to throw farther than you currently do. The goal is to learn to throw as far as you currently do, but with more accuracy, and less effort. Another way of saying it is that I don't want to improve your max distance, I want to improve your max USEABLE distance. And if we're successful, then in most cases we will have increased your overall max distance by default.

[@markhumphrey8894]

Amen man. I started looking at the line and not the basket lately. My T bird needs to be 40 ft to the right. I look over to the right and not at the basket and throw. It ends up at the basket like the disc numbers say it will.

[@albertoquagliaroli4230]

Really useful! A strong grip, and letting go the disc ripping out of the hand, not 'releasing' it. I tried, and I saw very straight and low throws going out from my hand. In fact it's the contrary of usual suggestions, but give also a good sensation of how the disc rips out from the hand. I didn't saw problems of rounding or of late release in my throws. The important is having anyway a quite good base of the fundamental run up, and right movements of the body. I must add, anyway, that I throw with gloves, and so, also, I hadn't problems on my fingers because of the ripping disc.

[@blister16exist]

it took me awhile to get over this as well. even now when i tell others how to throw it they are baffled by the fact that you dont really let go the disc. But now all I focus on my grip is just a front loaded pinch point and not an actual power grip, and I still get good distance

[@AyySorento]

A pointer that helped me was my thumb. Instead of thinking of the entire grip, focus on more pressure from the thumb, which should tighten the grip naturally. Just press down harder with your thumb. Get used to that, then move forward with the entire grip little by little. Once I got to the point where I was confident with my throws but wanted more distance, I started gripping harder and the results started to show. Of course, if you are not at the point in your game where you need more distance, focus on everything else, such as footwork.

[@OneFocusPhotos]

This has been my struggle! Just started learning disc golf and had no idea where to open my hand to let the disc go. I had no idea it would release automatically if I had enough power in it. Imma do some of those grip and rips to see what that feels like and then fine tune it afterwards to get that release while being more relaxed.

[@johan8602]

Putting the pressure on the indexfinger really helped me get the snap.. more spin and easier distance.. Overthrown talked about it in their video..

[@joshuasmith9528]

I had to change my grip due to injuring my middle finger. If my middle finger gets caught on the release, it reinjures my hand. I naturally developed a modified power grip. That, coupled with developing better form thru this channel and a few others, has led to more accuracy and way more distance. My best golf buddy friend was blown away yesterday when we played in 25 to 50 mph wind and gusts. I shaved 17 strokes off my last round at that course, and had multiple birdie opportunities that weren’t there previously.

[@cadmando18]

I really think this highlights the importance of getting a coach if you are truly trying to improve professionally. KZbin videos are awesome, but a coach can help you pull it all together.

[@DiscPayne]

I agree grip is very important. I recently joined Paul uli power disc golf academy and the grip he taught has given me that audible snap every drive. But maybe I need to grip a hair harder. Guess we will find out when I play this weekend. Great video

[@markhumphrey8894]

Just crazy how holding a bit tighter and concentrating on NOT letting the disc slip out is giving excellent results. I've never had a top work so well. I don't feel like my body is tense. I feel comfortable and not worrying about footing and the release is clean and crisp. I'm giddy about this.

[@tomtroop6012]

Thank you for this video but I have a question. I went outside to this this. With a tight power grip and a full-speed run-up, the disc never left my hand upon arm extension. What am I doing wrong?

[@jordanlamarca7709]

First time I have ever felt that rip out of my hand. Went from consistently throwing 315-330 to many going 370. Like you said accuracy suffered but I now know what I am supposed to feel.

[@strokesmuse77]

I've always heard that the disc is supposed to rip out of your hands, but never heard the details of why or how this is supposed to happen, so thank you, Robbie! Does this only apply to a certain level of power? For example, only those who have decent enough form to be able to generate enough whip to make that happen? Sounds like this would only apply to power shots too I'm assuming, not up shots or anything. Thanks again!

[@jjhill001]

This is my question as well. Do I just rip a mid and see what happens? Lol

[@nathanfrazier8525]

I had this revelation about two weeks ago and boy I went from 380' to 440' with an audible snap.

[@bobbybobman3073]

So I have this issue called I see tons of people throw, and it looks like their discs are secretly hovercraft. Yes my shots are level, but I seemingly get very little hang time compared to other people who seemingly throw slower than me, even when they throw level shots as well. Does this sound like my throw is lacking sufficient spin? For perspective I'm throwing 6-11 speeds about 270'-310' consistent (depending on stability) golf shots and on a level shot in a field, a good one is about 345', on a lucky hzyer flip I'll get out to about 365' - 380'. For disc speed I am in the low 60's mph.

[@nathanfrazier8525]

​@@bobbybobman3073 it could be a multitude of issues: lack of spin, nose up but also where the pressure is applied. While in the power grip, you have equil pressure between all fingers then your disc can't rotate very fast. On the other hand if you put 80% of pressure between your index finger and thumb then the disc has a better pivot point. It's called a front loaded grip and I think overthrow has a video about this.

[@cosmolean]

I struggle with relaxing my arm so it whips with body spin while holding the disc with a firm grip as I tense my arm along with the grip.

[@skipcalhoon3186]

Does this only apply to tee shots only, or once I have found the "snap" just adjust my grip down so that the disc still "rips out" on a less powerful shot? I guess what I'm asking is, is do I still "release/cheat" on a mid range shot?

[@darinladd5312]

no. it applies to all shots. pinch with thumb and forefinger. if you want to cheat, pinch with thumb and middle finger. it rips out much easier.

[@shuebert6942]

THANK YOU ROBBIE!! I have been so surious since seeing this mentioned in your other videos and have been trying to figure it out on my own. This makes SOOO SO much more sense. thank you again! noodle bombs coming soon!

[@bobbybobman3073]

I hope this (grip) is my problem, since personally, I'm getting decent speed on the disc, but probably like 1/2 to 1/3rd the rotation it should be. Since I'm hitting roughly 60-64 mph (last I measured) on my drives with 6-11 speeds and nothing is going past about 345ft (golf distance 270-310ft depending on stability) (everything looks like a mini Calvin drive, super low level shots, just like "half" of his distance) while pros are getting radar gunned at, 58-60 mph but they were getting 400-450ft (slightly higher but other wise golf lines) that's when I realized I almost certainly have a lack of spin. Another clue was how often these guys get a massive rolls on level ground when it's clearly not a roller, where they just accidentally don't land flat and one edge catches first. For perspective I can consistently air bounce my 6-8 speeds on my drives and sometimes my 9 speeds. But I really can't seem to get distance ... I am hoping it is rotation. Imagine you are snapping your fingers to some jazz or something, but then add 3 fingers instead of two under the disc and that basically my grip. I'm basically just using the pads of my thumb through ring finger to create friction with the flight plate and so my fingers under the rim basically form a ramp from my palm to my finger tips. I think this is allowing the rim to slide through the ramp and grip over a long period of time for example say .1 seconds, if I could change my grip such the the disc doesn't move relative to my grip till later and then it suddenly rips out in .05 seconds, then assuming it has to rotate the same amount in half the time I'll get twice the spin rate. Another issue I have is disc often flies at about 11 o'clock from where my body is lined up and aimed at. So if anything is os it lands more around 10 and Under stable lands more in the 12-1:30 range. That makes me think this is a grip issue since it's hundreds of throws that all come out around 11. And I'm only grip locking it if I'm trying something like a 360 and my timing is so trash that I get no power on the disc (like 30-35 mph if I were to guess). So I would think that a different grip could help with spin and slightly later release, if that's the case. Like when people on the course see me throw they are surprised when I tell them I'm throwing 9 and 11 speeds, since it's always a good shot when they comment on it, but they just assume it's a slower disc, Maybe I'm just bad. My usual disc golf friend agrees my shot just looks odd. He gets tons of glide out his discs and so while he throws much much slower probably high 30s to like 43, he will get like 180-220ft (golf distance). And it is in the air just as long if not longer than my 300+ ft shots. In full disclosure he does have an anhyzer release to nearly everything, and he's basically always nose up (but he likes to play, and he's never off work when it's light outside, so he's your normal causal beginner player, and he's had probably all of 15-20 hours (about 5 of those are field work) throwing and about 30 min looking into the basics of good form online (we are working on his form, while also making sure to keep things fun, even still he's almost doubled his distance over basically the last 2 rounds and 2 field work sessions). So yes he throws fairly nose up flex line on most his drives (we are working on it, initially he was throwing everything on a roller line if he had normal AM level power, so now only a 20-30° anhyzer release is progress), but his stuff just seemingly glides forever, and we wondering so we tested, and basically our discs are in the air the same time, unless he gets a good shot for him and then he's in the air longer and he'll land around 220-240 ft. Like said above I usually throw a level shot like Calvin, I find I get my longest distance that way, hyzer flips if I get really lucky and the ride the wind just right will turn and pan for a bit and reach about 365-380ft. But put me in a level field with no wind, 345ft is the distance, that no matter if it's a good or bad throwing day, I should get at least one shot that distance or further with 50 or so throws. But on long standstill approach shots (about 200 ft with bad footing) I'll curl my wrist and deliberately spin a disc the most I can, and those shots always seem to surprise me with their glide, they seem to never come down. I am getting a snapping sound on my drives, but the distance just isn't there and when I look at others throws they all look like hovercraft compared to mine. And I've tried various things to elevate my shots a touch more since a lot of pros discs often get long pretty level flights in like the 15-30 ish ft off the ground range, and most of mine only make it to about 10 ft high, but maybe I just don't have the angle control or the finesse to find the right speed for the disc, cause as soon as I think throw level instead of down, I basically end up with a stall shot, or something so nose up it loses most it's lift and is just a huge pushing hyzer cause nose up makes everything more OS and lands at like 10 oclock.

[@indo509]

100 perfect timing for this video. We'll see how it goes.

[@SomeoneElsesStory]

The LSD bravo plastic is the truth. Never get tired of throwing it.

[@mortenlundkristensen7050]

The TL;DR is, loose body, tight grip at release point to transfer the momentum into the disc(?)

[@xmor1]

I've only been playing for about 5 months, but I realize I now have been releasing instead of letting it rip. I also only grip the disc with 2 fingers. When I tried the 4 finger power grip I would always throw it to the right. I'm gonna practice this in an open field and see if I can find that snap and get this down.

[@kieronmckay4276]

Anyone struggling with getting the 4 finger power grip to rip and spin out of the hand, which kind of gets the pinky more involved than it perhaps should be, I would suggest trying a 3 finger power grip, drop that pinky entirely. That will naturally cause the tension to be closer and towards the front 2 fingers, and give the disc a better chance to rip and spin out of your hand. The pinky doesn't give you any power, and if anything moderates your power, arguably giving more accuracy but isn't needed for power shots. If you don't like it all the time during distance shots, that's cool, but it's good for getting that grip practice down, and maybe it will improve your spin and release and you do use it all the time.

[@Heliflopters]

Thanks I will try this. When I grip and throw as hard as I can the disc doesn't rip out for me as others are saying. It definitely gets stuck for too long and ends up going to the right of me completely perpendicular to the way I wanted to throw it instead of in front.

[@ryanparsons3057]

In martial arts we say “loose wrist tight fist”, so I understand that concept well!

[@MattManduke]

I'm not necessarily trying to throw farther, I am trying to get better at the game. I played my first game last weekend and before I play again I'm trying to learn the techniques that will make me play more like an amateur rather than somebody that is just starting out, I also feel like learning techniques to make other people better at the game before I gain muscle memory that would make me have to retrain myself entirely is a good idea so I'm going through your videos as well as a few other people's videos to learn the game better and to be more competitive with my friends

[@marcuscarter5396]

To make up for accuracy I just aim about 45 degrees sooner of my intended line which counter balances the shank to the right.

[@Joecuzzi]

How much does Mike charge and how do I get in contact with him? I can throw putters 270 and drivers 300 lol but I would like to get into the 450+ Club!

[@Berigan725]

What i never see being discussed is when just gripping the disc hard the pressure should only be in the pinch between indexfinger and thumb (my theory why i think grip type is kind of pointless). I'm using a 4 finger power grip however and when I'm bombing i tend to start releasing the disc on my middle finger since it is the most tucked in finger and I automatically grip the disc harder. When this happens the disc comes out wobbly and i hurt my middle finger. This is something I'm trying to solve and I have yet to come across any info regarding it.

[@patrickflanigan951]

Curious about the wrist. I am assuming that the wrist is fairly locked and not using the hinging of the wrist to fling the disc out. I feel like that I probably am a bit too wristy

[@j45002]

Wrist is neutral

[@patrickflanigan951]

@@j45002 so let’s say I were to fasten like a medical wrist brace, this is what the swing feels like? Back of hand stays flush with top of forearm? I know some players do a pre shot wrist curl. Does the wrist ever break that plane with forearm?

[@bryansans2564]

There sounds like a Tenacious D song in this lesson somewhere. Calm before the storm basically

[@ViJt-oq5nq]

I want to disagree with not being able to find accuracy and distance at the same time. Both are a product of improving form. The idea of releasing at 10 I think is also not universally accurate info. If you're keeping a loose arm to just sling the disc, you'll have a natural release point and don't even think about it since you also aren't actively releasing the disc. Good form will just help you hit that natural release point consistently.

[@michaelnevins5820]

I massively struggle with getting proper disc rotation (snap) thats why i am stuck throwing really understable discs. Everything slightly overstable that everyone else would consider understable to stable dumps for me me

[@triplespace007]

I’ve let go of the disc for a while now, when I first started throwing with snap my fingers would hurt a lot. Lemme finish the video and see if this is addressed

[@cindyyyyyy]

I just got a Bohrium disc, and I thought there's no way I can throw this, its just gonna fall out of my hand! But to my surprise, I really concentrated on gripping it, and that thing snaps out almost every time I throw it. It's wild. Going to transfer that to the rest of my discs, an Ah Ha moment!!

[@chrisjones609]

nice but you did miss the last putt... me as well thanx

[@brunocalvallo7611]

The Jeffery Dahmer glasses are a vibe! Lol

[@nmkloster]

Hmm.. what actually happens when you grip lock. Any good videos on that?

[@russelljim]

Try this today better distance and accuracy improvement think I released disc rather than letting the disc pull out

[@donnyrides]

My hands are small so I switched to 3 finger power grip with my pinkie tucked in. I can grip it as hard as I can now and I can get more nose down and it snaps off my ring finger instead of my pinkie which helps my grip lock issues. Since changing, I've hit my very first ace. I've lost some distance, but accuracy is better.

[@darinladd5312]

the eagle mcmahon method. it's very good.

[@turdismiller]

I'm watching because I'm new to disc golf, yes, but I'm also not playing right now.

[@johnclark5859]

I think I bury the disc too deep into the palm of my hand. I can grip it very hard and throw hard and hang onto the disc. Perhaps I’m not throwing as hard as you. I don’t know. I’ve also been trying something different with putting at a distance and i don’t think it’s working. Im attempting a drop down put to reduce the chance of over throwing past the basket or huge roll always. Suggestions would be appreciated

[@jonspell88]

I am not athletic and have never really had that feeling of it ripping out of my grip. I can actually still hold onto the disc when I throw it hard. I have, however, had some of my best throws release over 45 degrees off of the line. If I could tap into that on the right line...

[@Heliflopters]

Yeah mine always stays in my hand too long also.

[@davidchalona6494]

This is interesting b/c I had a great round one day, and I was snapping the disc out of my hand with a death grip, but then I fatigued and had the grip lock kick in. I think it was wrong to think it was my grip b/c it was probably my arm speed dropping and causing me to grip lock it.

[@discsmd]

Dude this is SO helpful. I swear between this series and Paul's Powder Academy videos my game is improving like crazy! I hope you don't mind if I make videos of my experiences of what I am learning from you. I will of course give you ALL the credit. ;)

[@50StichesSteel]

Yeah that's exactly why I told you not to worry about 10 o'clock release or accuracy. I mentioned to try extending out to 11 or 12 to try and get that disc to rip out of your hand. It's too easy to cheat the 10 o'clock release and let go of the disc instead of having it rip out...btw I still cheat the release sometimes on up shots or tunnel shots and the disc comes out early. That's how I know I didn't use a proper fan grip because in a fan grip, that disc can come with less power needed

[@grantyoderdg2526]

Intro slaps

[@malikalexander1983]

Very helpful 👌🏾 thank you so much 😁.

[@rudy9067]

Warning to people. I did the "grip as hard as you can" thing in early March (so before this video) and suffered severe hand/wrist tendonitis for the first time in my life afterwards and still have a brace on nearly a month later. Backhand. Played over 7 years. Would not recommend. First night had to sleep (okay, had no sleep) with hand raised or constantly running under cold water. Pain was so bad. Train your grip strength consistently so you grip harder naturally.

[@ToddsDiscGolf]

W…t…f! I don’t have to be letting go of the disc?? The force will just take it at the right moment??

[@spider0804]

I don't really understand the concept of "gripping and ripping" it, are you actually letting go with your fingers or does the disc leave your hand? If I grip the disc as hard as I can without relieving pressure it does not leave my hand and I just end up looking like im angry.

[@fheat3525]

The grip did help