Community Managers From Hell. Godot Engine

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[@fatjay9402]

Can you find out why those Community Managers are all the same .. some LGBTQwhatever guys.. like in EVERY Game ? who is that even possible are they all coming from the same company ? even Once Human a China game has one. HOW just how ... can you not find out ... because they must be some kind of pipeline where all those guys coming from.. its insane.

[@abdoobaset6100]

You do it and make it till Wednesday series

[@scandilad5152]

If a community manager polarizes the community they are bad at their job.

[@azumi5459]

they all follow burak obuma

[@Marinealver]

For a Community Manager yes, For a local Communist NO!

[@raul0ca]

Previous employment may have been for Unreal or Unity. Future employment Unreal or Unity when this job is done

[@Ozzystrayroo]

You make it sounds like they are infiltrators and sabotager.....holy heck this might be the case​@@raul0ca

[@JohnShelbyAnthony-bh3gc]

​@@azumi5459berak

[@shmeagol]

As I’ve grown up I’ve noticed the same busybodies I went to middle school with are the same people I work with. They grew up to be community managers, HR leads, politicians, city officials, state officials, HOA representatives, and single moms. But they never actually “grew up” past that middle school mentality. And they’re in charge. Truly, brothers. It’s all so tiresome.

[@muhdiversity7409]

I've been thinking about this. I really believe they treat society as an extension of high school. It's fking rworded.

[@thomgizziz]

@@muhdiversity7409 Do you think human nature changes? Society is just a group of people in an area, just like a high school. The fact that you thought it would be magically different is fking rworded... smh

[@haraldbredsdorff2699]

These are the Karens. No matter the sex or race, they are all Karens, who think they should run everybody elses lives, but are unable to run their own.

[@sznikers]

​@@haraldbredsdorff2699 so true, right wing Karen is first and foremost a Karen, so is left wing Karen, male Karen, female Karen and so on : / Just different colors of same dull shape.

[@Alex_Fahey]

This is why, when someone asks you if you want to be, for example, vice president of a club you are in, you say yes even if you don't want to. As Harald Bredsdorff said, these are Karens. The Karen worms her way into these positions and the only way to stop her is to be there first. She can't worm her way in, if you already volunteered for the extra work of handling the management and PR stuff. It's a pain in the butt to be the guy who has to deal with it. However, if all of you put it off until you have to hire an outsider, you end up with this happening. If your boss wants someone to handle your startup's Twitter account, then take on that responsibility or watch as he hires a Women's Studies drone who actually wants the job and fills an investor's D.I.E. requirement at the same time.

[@tornesaurio]

DO IT! "Community managers of Horror" sounds great. In fact, you give the best names Rings of Power plus Pruvilege Dragon Age of Consent Ghost of Yaoi etc

[@mkv2718]

“Dragon Age of Consent” 😂 👌 “it’s ok, she’s 3,000 years old, I swear!”🤣

[@cosminu.4519]

🤣🤣

[@Amsel_616]

THE DRAGON OF CONSENT

[@intigeral727]

Stop putting insecure people (especially women with a personal axe to grind) in leadership positions.

[@The13thRonin]

They'll stop being there when you stop them champ. ... So never. Weak men make hard times.

[@decorumlopez9147]

...but that is exactly their current MO!

[@LedoCool1]

B-but muh fehmehneezm!

[@Nogardtist]

Just put people that dont want to be managers Cause usually easily corruptible reddit mods with deep neuron issues should not have powers

[@darkdawnbringer]

@@The13thRonin And every single time you criticise women you instantly find a simp that blames men for it... Keep it up "weak man". The irony...

[@canaldecasta]

How do they even find that kind of job? Like where do they all come from? What did they study?

[@emergencita9472]

Any kind of identity centered studies, like gender studies or feminism for example ofc.

[@anon3118]

Liberal arts

[@aoofmg6684]

They spawn in the pits of redit

[@MrStinkels]

They dont need any qualifications for those fake jobs. It s just nepotism.

[@sand5857]

Any kind of social studies... that 'social' part seems to appear to the HR dep. Recruit

[@gamerkingdom1442]

“Community Managers” Has become the single wokest job I’ve ever seen in my life.

[@Big_Sloppa]

What about reddit mod?

[@sznikers]

​@@Big_Sloppaaint that just community manager in training? You now first they do this job for free then they put it in their CV and try to do same job but for corporate salary.

[@ClokworkGremlin]

Which is impressive, because HR still exists.

[@techpriest4787]

*commissar

[@Marinealver]

Just another Communist, but now it is a federally required paid position.

[@Optimusj1975]

"Community Managers" that sounds like the acceptable way to say "Human Zoo Keeper" was a mistake. Every company should go back to plain customer support.

[@Marinealver]

It's just a Communist but a different name.

[@overlord1676]

SBI admitted they want to burn the gaming industry to the ground so what makes the corpos think that the others with the same mindset will make them money?

[@The13thRonin]

... Money? Boy... Have you not been paying attention.

[@zanagi]

These people dont care about money even dustborn stole tax money not to get profit

[@fastestdino2]

Honestly I still feel like they said that as cope. They really did try to run a succesful firm and push these ideas. It failed because it ruined the finished product and there's no actual profit motive for the services they offer.

[@Marinealver]

Thing is SBI is only the Tip of the Iceberg.

[@raul0ca]

@@Marinealver Every HR is a mini SBI

[@NikolaiMihailov1]

Reminder. Woke GMs/CMs are whaf helped nearly kill Helldivers with their antagonism of the community. Sony and their PSN requirements and the constant nerfing made for a shit trifecta.

[@astrovarius543]

Woke CMs is the main reason I will never return to Helldivers. Helldivers is a fun game, but it's just a game. My moral principals are more important to me than any game, I'm not a consoomer slopgobbler.

[@ChaosFraktal]

it's open source. Let's fork it and create some based engine.

[@muhdiversity7409]

They always infiltrate and undermine from within.

[@k96man]

Tell them to get forked

[@kotakuk6533]

Yup defo needs a sanity fork.

[@Treblaine]

I bet you'll keep finding brainrot in the code for years to come. What you're seeing on X is not merely superficial, it's only the tip of the iceberg.

[@qaw392]

Hell yeah, do it

[@NoahGooder]

this godot thing is a giant mess, expecially because it makes you not want to use the engine.

[@lunasakara7306]

And I'm not anymore, I was learning it to make a game with it... But if every game engine is going to be gay, stupid, and troon happy... I'd rather just use Unreal 5. It's easier to work with for me, because I'm not a game dev.

[@deathpyre42]

anyone have suggestions for a good alternative then?

[@danieleccleston7928]

Yup

[@NameNotAChannel]

Personally, I'm not going to let woke members of their community staff push me away from using a game engine to make my dreams into a reality, just because they decided to mouth off. The engine isn't woke... these idiots are. Hurting myself, to spite them, is not something I plan to do.

[@speedg]

@@deathpyre42 raylib is fun, it handles the harder parts (like rotating sprites without nuking your fps) plus it has a lot of bindings (basically on most launguages, ranging from low level like C to high level like C#) EDIT:though raylib is more a framework than an engine

[@hollywoodmeow]

community managers, reddit/discord mods, etc: those most willing to seek out power are, overwhelmingly, those least deserving to hold it.

[@Jase14aDestroyer]

How did the world close their insane asylums at the exact same time?

[@minakatahizuru]

Plot by the Jews in USA, Canada

[@The13thRonin]

You let them. ... Also the Tumblr containment zone was breached.

[@haraldbredsdorff2699]

Well, these people where not the people sent to the asylums. These people where the ones working at the asylum. It was why almost nobody got better.

[@housewilma4904]

virtue signalling because one of them messed up lobotmized a president sister and suddenly asylums were pure evils agasint humanity that needed to be closed not properly funded.

[@SterileNeutrino]

Behavioral Sink

[@zanard33]

The sad thing about this is that the main dev thinks he's still 'apolitical', but he spouts the same rhetoric as his community managers... ten years ago.

[@skaruts]

That doesn't matter at all. I don't know his personal politics, nor do I care. Trying to stay out of politics is still a wise idea, regardless. If he would do whatever it takes to keep Godot itself out of politics, that would still be highly commendable.

[@garybicknell2135]

It would be fine for him to have the same beliefs if he left them at the door, but since he's supporting her and her jihad you know he isn't and instead just doesn't see left wing politics as political.

[@zanard33]

@@skaruts You can claim to stay out of politics, but it will never leave you alone.

[@skaruts]

​@@zanard33 you're missing the point. It's as simple as not commenting on political topics and not making tweets like the ones we've seen and not having rainbows for discord icons. It's not complicated to keep a business out of politics. One can have anonymous accounts on the internet to speak about politics all we want. But the ones you associate with your business should remain silent on that. It's not difficult to do it.

[@Marinealver]

Right now apolitical means unipolitical. Only one Politics are allowed and "everyone agrees" with it, or is punished.

[@hiroshima19]

The thumbnail looks just like the Godot logo

[@8Aerondight8]

I miss the old days when companies didn't have community managers. When a community would spring out naturally over a game and the company would just throw them a bone. The whole corporate idea of community managers and community management is that they foster a false sense of belonging in the community. It's encouraging tribalism so that their greedy practices can be overlooked. Fanboy culture.

[@sznikers]

Its part of building business as a sect. You're not supposed to come to work for pay you should come cause you believe in company values and purpose 😂 Youre not supposed to be a customer you should be a fan. And "community" is seen as source of free labour so they hire a manager to manage it, use it as free marketing tool or unpaid testers or for PR.

[@8Aerondight8]

@@sznikers Yeah i know. I just really hate it.

[@Marinealver]

Before Communism took over. This is why I have NO HOPE for 2025.

[@5uperM]

It's open source. Let's RECLAIM OUR HOLY LAND!

[@Marinealver]

Well go and do it then!

[@avgnada]

holy godot

[@nuclearmedicineman6270]

Always a brilliant idea taking a hard political stance in an extremely competitive field with multiple alternatives for people to switch to. How could it possibly backfire.

[@hx615]

Community Manager vs HR Lady Who will win? Who's next? You decide.

[@Marinealver]

Insert "Corporate wants to know the difference between these two pictures" meme.

[@lazylonewolf]

Someone please fork it and rename it Gatekeep

[@Marinealver]

You first

[@MA-748]

Its forked already but it called Redot on github

[@pattyhoswell9915]

It's even worse on the discord server, the biggest Godot server apparently made another Godot Engine server which is supposedly the "Official" Godot Engine server. And as of now all of the links to join that server is closed due to this recent situation. The community is being split apart and people who voices their discontent are just gaslighted into thinking that they are overdramatic. EDIT: They are also silencing anybody who wants to talk about the tweet, the mods have stated they supported Nat, you're not allowed to talk about it and if you disagree with it, the only option is to leave or get banned. But the people who agree with the mods are allowed to voices their opinion, calling the ones who disagree with them "homophobic", "bigots" or "trolls". For a game engine that's backed by the community. They sure are open about alienating their community.

[@lekanraposte6732]

These plump CM are the ones who drill holes in their own ship hull. Then, corporate pikachuface when their ship sink.

[@akaroth7542]

It's a mistake to think the goal is to make money. Most people in the company want to...but the execs and the public facing they hire are in the know. The money backing these efforts is made in housing and investments separate from media.

[@sergeantsapient]

I think the mistake people make is saying they're neutral in politics. No they're not. They have convictions. They have personal beliefs. They have biases. They have sensibilities. All of those play into their own politics and how they see the politics of others. You can't be neutral politics. You can however be aware of those biases and sensibilities and you can even step outside of them to understand to other person better even while disagreeing with them.

[@Marinealver]

Well again the definition has been either altered or outright changed. Apolitical now means Unipolitical as in ALWAYS AGREE WITH THE UNIPARTY! To they/them it isn't political because there is NO DEBATE over it as The Party will not allow any debate.

[@keyser456]

Quality in any company decreases proportionally as the # of employees and managers with blue, green, and purple hair increases. Bonus points for face piercings.

[@NameNotAChannel]

Apparently, my completely benign comment was deleted by youtube... Godot's leadership needs to rid itself of the mouthing off problem... before it damages the engine's reputation beyond repair.

[@NameIsDoc]

KZbin seems to randomly delete comments so their censorship looks like a technical issue.

[@v8matey]

Having an opinion goes against KZbins biased cult community standards.

[@Twilight.Princess]

I swear ever since 2016 when Trump became president EVERYTHING became about politics. Everyone felt the need to prove they don’t like Trump so much it became part of their entire existence. Even children are heavy into politics. It’s ridiculous. Just make good games and stfu.

[@TheJeremyKentBGross]

Tbh it started before that, and his election was in part people rejecting it, but it just sent the nutters into full on open attack mode instead of their previous slower but persistent and unrelenting long march through the institutions.

[@joevaghn457]

2016 was a wormhole into an alternate time line :

[@Ozzystrayroo]

​@@joevaghn457i'd say the mayan missed their calculation by 4 years

[@v8matey]

Its ALWAYS American politics too. Its as if America and Americans think the ENTIRE world is the same as America. But tell them other countries dont celebrate 4th or July. They start insulting you. But happily tell you they dont celebrate your countries holidays

[@Ozzystrayroo]

@@v8matey i think a former resident of r/2balkan4you summed it best: "the modern day western nations politics ruined the fun for everyone not in their sphere because they think they have moral high ground too far up in their arse it stick out of their mouth"

[@blazeburner303]

I feel like there are private conversations happening where these CMs have analysists figure out where people are starting to migrate to so they can cut them off at the pass...

[@Marinealver]

I mean the Party is well-organized and heavily funded.

[@N4chtigall]

You want to tell me that giving an inch of power to psychos isn't the best idea? Damn, thats something new.

[@Marinealver]

Getting Rid of ALL the Customers? Insert that interesting strategy cotton meme.

[@KillerLuvsPie]

If the leader of the Godot project likes to stay away from politics, then he needs to get rid of the thing that is bringing politics to his project. Pretty simple solution. This "thing" has already caused more damage with a single tweet than it is worth keeping. If people stop donating to them as well, they will buckle pretty quick.

[@muhdiversity7409]

It's block buttons all the way down. KZbin is bad enough, I can't imagine having an account on any of the typical social media platform and dealing with these people.

[@dale117]

Yeah... Even blocking/banning platinum tier financial backers? This goes beyond cringe. RIP Godot. You (not your 'community') will be missed. Looking forward to the next fork that supplants it.

[@CeasiusC]

By the way, a lot of Free and Open Source project have been infiltrated by these people. Guy named Lunduke is very active in pointing this out, he's also a good dude, so I recommend checking him

[@translatedbird]

Didn't know of him, thanks for sharing. Listening to some of their stuff right now.

[@asteropax6469]

Community Manglers

[@Marinealver]

Just call the Communists.

[@an0nycat]

"Nat (she/they) 🔪🥦" is CM of Wokedot Engine? AHAHAHHAHAHAHA 😂😂🤣🤣

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

"Community Managers" "Comm i a rs" "Commi s ar" "Commissar."

[@5uperM]

They're demons. Hell is real.

[@Big_Sloppa]

Hell is real and it's California

[@TheLaluciDaniel]

"They summon the Thing, They summon the Manifestation" From far away one can see streaks of light that quickly changes shades, like a rainbow, shoot out of the windows.

[@Marinealver]

They/Them have summoned the COMMUNIST MANIFESTO

[@AuUntaris]

Blocking users is antithetical to an open-source piece of software. The whole point of being free to use and open sourced is that you are sourcing talent and money from the user base to make your engine better. It’s fucking insane that people that have supported Godot financially are getting blocked from access to answers or to the wider community. A travesty, really.

[@gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683]

The raylib discord has a no politics rule. Just saying. Also raylib can help you learn how to build your own game engine, as it's not technically a game engine but rather a frame work. If you want to learn a technology that is 100% going to be a huge skill for indie devs, go learn raylib

[@VolcanicPenguin]

Hell yeah! I'm almost done making a game in Raylib and Rust (100% unsafe Rust) and I like it a lot. But it has it's limitations compared to a full game engine with out of the box features. Also I would say Raylib is a library not a framework but I'm mincing words. Nice to hear it's apolitical. Been aiming to make a game in Godot in the future so I'm not liking this drama.

[@wrongthinker843]

Thanks for the advice.

[@LordCritish]

Unity Technology asset store community managers are the same. All the pronouns in their bio and they shadow ban you from being able to write asset store reviews if they find you inconvenient.

[@Marinealver]

Unity got taken over by an ex EA CEO. He brought his Commisars with him.

[@vonfaustien3957]

Conspiracy theory. Epic and tencent are paying these people and the guys who sunk Unity to do stupid bull like this so Unreal is left with no competition

[@WadeLee2001]

I believe the word you were looking for Vee is "proportional". If the cat had the proportional weight of the community manager. Thank you Spider-Man for that one, with his proportional strength of of a spider.

[@DanteCrowlley]

They know pretty well the price to pay

[@LedoCool1]

What is woke? Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me... No more...

[@LordFoxxyFoxington]

DEI - Division, Exclusion, and Indoctrination.

[@Visstnok]

Nothing about the engine itself is woke - at least not yet. So I recommend using it to make games, but don't donate.

[@watchmehope6560]

Expect with people like this that engine is already going to be dated. He discussed this in a previous video, where people were calling how basic things are missing that are now common in other engines. Those people got banned. So why use that engine?

[@ryuharuentertainment8957]

True. Thanks for saying this. For now, I don't care if the creators or managers lean one way or another. So long as my games aren't put on a list of "problematic products" for the forseeable future, I can work with it.

[@ralphr2711]

Or just fork it. 😎

[@SomeGuy1234X]

Quality will begin to suffer so why hope on a boat that has holes in it just because it hasn’t sunk yet?

[@ryuharuentertainment8957]

@@SomeGuy1234X Because we need time to build or find another boat. The titanic took two hours before it fully sank. So we gather what resources we can while the clock is still ticking.

[@lostcrusader8053]

Godot is an open source game engine. You can make games out of it without fear of being taken down by them. So I wouldn’t worry too much about that compared to Unreal Engine.

[@Marinealver]

There can always be a backdoor. UE3 is soon becoming abandonedware.

[@YodielandInhabitant710]

@@Marinealver The backdoor would be visible to any onlooker though instead of being hidden behind proprietary and obfuscated code.

[@jellydamgood]

Lol unity seeing their ray of sunshine

[@hatuna9621]

Community managers should build communities, not destroy them.

[@Marinealver]

The Communist are doing their job. The title "Community Manager" is just a cover.

[@translatedbird]

I remember when CM used to be fun, chill people. You still have a few of them left today, for example the CMs for CoffeeStainStudios. But it seems today for every good one, there's at least a few ones where you can't wrap your head around why they're given the spot.

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

That's what political subversives like this do. They want everything ruined for some revolution.

[@axelolord]

Ngl, the moment I saw it I immediately wrote Godot off. If I'm going to use an engine and it's gonna have woke background weaved into it, I might as well stick to my original plan and use Unreal.

[@lunasakara7306]

Bruh, I literally just said that to someone else... I'm not a life-long programmer, I don't know shit about game dev, but I want to make a game... Unreal is the easiest engine to pick up and learn. If all the game engines hate me because I'm White... why wouldn't I just use the best one? Godot is unfortunately lacking a lot of ease of use for someone like me, who has zero experience with coding, programming, and modeling, and they'll tell you "just ask the community" - How? This is why I don't like getting involved in shit that can't grow without "the community" - because THIS is a reflection of "the community"

[@roleplayingpain4349]

the world does not need more video games nor game devs. We are living through an innundation hellscape at the moment. Take a step back and seriously try to think of something fulfilling to do with yourself that isn't going to be lost in a sea of innundation. The amount of passion lost in game development is nearly an epidemic as is. The amount of people who worked their fingers to the bone on their magnum opus to either have it lost on Steam in a page of 175 new releases for the day and only have 3 people buy it or have the Jim Sterlings of the world pick it up and label it an 'asset flip scam' is staggering

[@axelolord]

@@roleplayingpain4349 World doesn't need more people either, so why not just... ya know. Same logic. F off. We would have nothing but corporate trash if it weren't for independent people trying something they have no guarantee of succeeding at. Vampire Survivors started off with a single guy making a rip-off game and created a genre now copied mindlessly by the brainless companies. DOTA started as a free mod. You don't go creating passion project games to earn money. You don't do it for shills like Sterling or Kotaku to fawn over them. F them all. You do it for YOURSELF. And ONLY for yourself.

[@ryuharuentertainment8957]

​@@roleplayingpain4349like your comment getting lost in a sea of KZbin comment responses that nobody sees...

[@roleplayingpain4349]

KZbin censored your reply because they are censorious dictators. I still read it though. Unfortunately we live in an era of shiny happy people that can only give each other shiny happy advice or else people cry. Like you demonstrated. To each their own man. Make the game for yourself to play alone out of your passion. It doesn't matter to me in the slightest. If you don't like brutalist opinions I'm not sure why you frequent this channel. I used to be a passionate wanna be dev like you. Now I am a pessimistic, angry, troll. Such is life. Die doing what you love and such other shiny happy sentiments

[@kaptainwarp]

0:53 😂 I love the succubus' indiference. "meh... say no more" 😂😂

[@zerofighterfairy]

They always success in summoning la creature that have insecurity over themselves, narcissistic and constant power trip, then put them in position that required communication with different kind people.

[@RiskOfBaer]

These people are idiotic. They got handed a golden opportunity on a silver platter by Unity destroying all the goodwill they have built up over the years. Their own engine had more eyes on in than ever before. And what do they do with it? Do they work even harder to show results and show those people they are worth investing it? Do they listen to their community and work on features and fixes everybody is asking for? Lol nope, let's waste our time virtue signaling to people who aren't remotely our target audience! You don't deserve any success if you squander your opportunities this badly.

[@Marinealver]

It is all Silicone Valley people.

[@akaroth7542]

Success isn't the goal

[@RiskOfBaer]

@@akaroth7542 It is when you actually run a company. But after the new developments we now know that the people who are running the company are likely just as bad as the community manager. Only they still seem to think they can make the woke ideas coexist with a successful product. Only one way to learn I suppose, another dead company in the making.

[@Omnifarious0]

One thing that really bothers me about this, aside from the fact that so many companies hire terrible community managers, is that people treat Godot as if it's a product. It's not. It's a piece of Open Source software. The people who work on it are the people who own it. If you don't like how they're run, fork it and make your own. They don't have any obligation to treat you kindly, or to pay attention to your bug requests, or even listen to your criticism. Fork it, and make it your own. Take it away from the people who would mistreat the users. That's the whole point of FOSS.

[@ivaneeh4211]

To be fair, Tuomas Pirinen, the rules guy behind Trench Crusade, came out and said that theyre actually mostly quite conservative, with catholic priests in the team and whatnot. It is a shame what happened to him and the game, he didnt deserve it

[@housewilma4904]

yep they really shot his campign in the foot sure its still got 13000 people intrested but for a crowdfunding project they could of had hundreds of thousands of warhammer fans money. but these people and there artfical rage campign on discord n reddit absolute stopped that in its tracks making warhammer fans feel activly hostile to them. and reducing its youtube prescene from rising to popularity to unheard off. the people in charge should publically fire the community managers and get one of the devs to be community manager.

[@PeterDanielBerg]

@@housewilma4904 i think another part of the lesson is that not every indie project needs a discord

[@wrongthinker843]

Your employees are your responsibility. He could mend that bridge by getting rid of the community manager and probably even suing them for damages.

[@obviouslyasockpuppet]

This Godot incident sits neatly in an intersection between open source software and gaming. Both have very similar problems with community managers

[@sapphireglaceon]

Perhaps this is a coordinated effort to destroy ALL future games. Think about it main stream is now 99% trash, the indie scene is doing pretty well. How would you destroy that you ask? The engines them selves if you have a company like Unity who REALLY messes up with what they did people will tend to use it less. Making the qualified makers to have less options if they don't have an option they may not want to make games anymore.

[@Big_Sloppa]

Well, it's not that easy. People who have passion for gamedev have ability to communicate and organize, they can make own engines, or at least good modern forks of something long-established.

[@Marinealver]

It certainly is working. Thing is there's enough fan games and smaller titles that can survive the collapse. However the AA will get sucked in with what's left of the AAA in the crash of AAAA.

[@sapphireglaceon]

@@Big_Sloppa I guess that's true, but that will take along time.

[@OniGanon]

Community managers, like HR departments, make me wonder why they even exist. They seem to be a net negative for a company.

[@Marinealver]

HR is to keep the employees in line. "Community Managers" are to ensure the Political Moral of the people is maintained.

[@chance9512]

Rebekah Ford is the only existing community manager I respect.

[@ownage11445]

Community managers and reddit mods are all cut from the same cloth.

[@mr.mustachio941]

the more I see similar cases like this happening repeatably, and the overall outcome of such behaviour, the more my brain simply gets even more confused about the logic,and strategy behind hiring such individuals, and allowing them to straight up sabotage your own product

[@Solly-Tom]

At 1:40, "peak Americanism." As an American, I fully support that statement.

[@goatranchgaming2922]

The Dev I stay out of politics including not shaking my finger at the person trying to ruin my work and telling them NO NO you be nice to the customer or we not make money .

[@xray606]

I was part of a GTARP server, and... No BS... The guy in charge of all the players and had full banning power, was the most anti social freak, on the whole server. Dude literally couldn't make a single new friend in multiple years of the server existing, and would just ban people for next to nothing.

[@translatedbird]

So, the same backstory as most discord/reddit mods?

[@cryelectric]

Funny videos with funny people on Monday... I love that.

[@ytnukesme1600]

"they summon the Thing" yeah, they do. straight out of John Carpenter's movie.

[@lobaoguara2332]

The "consumer vs creator" mentality always shocks me because in a world where we can be more than anything in harmony with our communities, people go against them.

[@Marinealver]

Well it is all part of the plan. Stakeholder vs Shareholder Client vs Customer They/Them are separating people apart and throwing one side away intentionally.

[@ardbug9577]

I can only think of 2 CMs off the top of my head that are both excellent, Snutt and Mikael from the Satisfactory team, the rest are either horrific or not known to me, no in between.

[@Arassar]

IT'S ALWAYS THE COMMUNITY MANAGERS

[@DarthChrisB]

We need a zombie apocalypse slasher, with purple hairs instead of zombies. Make it in Godot for extra irony.

[@YJPLAPI]

Great way to send them back to Unity. As a gamedev myself, I rather have Unity do a Unity again instead of dealing with this crap.

[@gobgonson8053]

There's something to be said about the relative effectiveness of the profit motive at encouraging backtracking on bad behavior. As it stands there is much less material motivation for Godot to rein things in - although the silver lining is that people like Juan Linietsky have their own businesses focused on providing Godot-centric services to devs, so there is at least some financial skin in the game involved. Just not as much as Unity has.

[@MA-748]

Unity isn't any better but at least godot has been forked into Redot engine on github

[@CRIMI0N]

Good idea for a series, don't forget to make a playlist.

[@elusivemayfly7534]

I felt extremely attacked by the fat cat analogy. I was listening to it just as I was breaking up some shredded cheese for my cat 😂

[@mickcameron821]

That thumbnail bro lmao! Who knew that hippos had a different sub species.

[@Palacz999]

Artur is dev of Soulash 2. I don't think you can call him lefty. After his stand against cancel mob.

[@wrongthinker843]

That explains why he's blocked by the Godot account.

[@hardbrocklife]

You realize this video paints him in a positive light, correct?

[@akmon3490]

Boomers that just walked in and got the job hired people that hired this people

[@garybicknell2135]

It's one thing when a game has a shit CM as they drive away customers and you're out their future purchases, it's a whole other ballgame when business services do it as that end of support can turn into lawsuits for their project costs as they remove your product due to lack of support.

[@SKULLZ4892]

"It's banning your loyal customers, yeah that's pretty fucking woke"---(VEE 2024)😂😂😂 caught me off guard with that one VEE😆 I'm trying to drink my coffee here, now I have a mess to clean up😂😂😂 this why I keep coming back VEE😂🥰😘

[@lordmagorius4091]

This is kind of upsetting since I started to learn godot engine (and the game development in general) recently. And at these kind of situations i think it is best just to stop caring about things/people like this because if I was concerned about picking a game engine that isn't even partially maintained by morons I would never get anything done. At the end of the day it is just a tool and i will create what ever I want with it (at least when I learn how to use it properly).

[@Greywander87]

I've wanted to get into game development, and Godot was the engine I had my sights set on. I think at this point it's still the best option, and if we get the worst outcome then there is a chance it may get forked. One of the major appeals of Godot was that it's a fully featured game engine that is also open source. Unity and Unreal are not open source and thus cannot get forked, while other open source engines tend to be more niche or less featureful. So I'd say stick with Godot for now, and if they clean up their act then great, and if not then wait for a fork to pop out. If it doesn't, consider forking it yourself, if you can.

[@ClockworkGearhead]

Regardless of the community manager's crusade, the engine itself has a license that prevents the developers from gaining control of your game. In that respect, it's still safe to use. But you're best off keeping an eye out on updates and licensing changes. The CM going off and the devs trying to sneak a licensing change isn't that much of a difference.

[@lordmagorius4091]

@@Greywander87 I have no idea how to fork it but it is nice that it is a potential option.

[@lordmagorius4091]

@@ClockworkGearhead Thanks for the info. Good to know.

[@ClockworkGearhead]

The only thing they can do is fire the CM, publicly. She did the opposite of her job.

[@dantespicysausage9615]

Who brought a blobfish to the surface?

[@k3d981]

Community manager of coffee stain studio are awesome..

[@paulmurgatroyd6372]

I swear the whole world is heading for a nervous breakdown.

[@RaiosSephi]

Community Manager = 4 foot 3 HR

[@skaruts]

To be fair, I've never seen Juan involved in politics, so I don't think he himself is back-pedaling on anything. I do think however that it's up to him as the project leader, to do what it takes to keep Godot itself out of politics. I don't think he realizes how bad it is for business, but maybe he'll begin to see it now.

[@tux_the_astronaut]

Ye most of the main godot devs dont rly talk about politics publicly that much if ever its always the community managers

[@ClockworkGearhead]

Well, if this is a backstab, it's not the first one. People have tried to push the development of Godot in particular directions before and he refused, causing a lot of issues. The scuttling of the original Godot forums is one example.

[@sadasd-n2f]

​@@ClockworkGearhead Do you mind sharing some backstory? I am interested because people defend Juan but from what I saw he defends her and his actions speak loud.

[@irekaias]

The word Manager gets to people's heads

[@ascensionunlimited4182]

I just discovered you and youre f**king hilarious. Instant sub

[@Sephvion]

They are fantastic, when you think about it. They are shooting off flares and fireworks showing everyone to stay away from whatever company they work for. It would be a lot harder if I had to go digging around. So, I hope they keep going and save everyone more money and time.

[@wrongthinker843]

Technically Godot is free. But they'll likely lose donors over this.

[@DeeaA-d5r]

This is RAMPANT In the FOSS community

[@FloofusTheCat]

I’ve used Godot for years and will continue to. It’s a big tent with all sorts of differing opinions and that’s okay. It’s the engine I’m most productive in, and it’s still open source. Nothing is perfect.

[@tux_the_astronaut]

Ye their community managers have been like this for awhile but it hardly effects development most

[@bv_7766]

These people must literally pretend to be something they’re not to get the job, then go full loon after they get their hands on power. That’s the only way I see this stuff happening.

[@PeterDanielBerg]

call it Managed Communities to emphasize how top down control is bad + as a pun on managed democracy

[@jeremysack5939]

She banned a guy who gives them $100 every month in donations. She banned a dude for quoting the creator of the engine. I don't get it. Do community managers do anything involved with the actual work or engine...or just respond to people? Why would all the Devs/Publisher put someone into a job that 100% destroys all their work, time and money they've put in? This is why I thought not buying their games for 2 years would reset the industry, but now I believe the entire industry minus maybe 5 or so studios must be bulldozed from existence, no matter their size or track record, if they are currently putting out Woke BS.

[@malsypright]

I really don't want to switch to Unreal at this point because then I'd have to start all over..

[@BluBone]

Then don't, why the fuck would you give up your work for one dumbass ?! If adolf hitler liked something you liked, would you stop liking it ? No, because it's one mf that you share one common interest in it. It's a woke community manager, not a woke Game engine (don't even know how you could make a woke GE tbh).

[@MG-me7iw]

Give unfunkable people power, hilarity ensues.

[@arnawawidagda7860]

Well, there was that one, Kara Lynn, a community manager for Limited Run games, who got fired for liking "the Wizard's game". So, not all of them are from hellscape.

[@Marinealver]

So a failed Communist.

[@translatedbird]

Getting fired for liking the "wrong" game is crazy.

[@arnawawidagda7860]

@@Marinealver No idea, but she hangs out with Xray girl. So, probably NOT a commie.

[@ChaosAngelZero]

Those pesky, *TOXIC* customers...

[@TheCoolerDrilis]

I like how the _Trench Crusaders_ thing basically admits that communism is a religion.