Compaq ATI Rage Pro Turbo AGP

In this video we're going to be covering the ATI 3d Rage Pro Turbo AGP
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Before we start looking at the performance of the Diamond Viper V330 and Matrox M3D card, I wanted to see what the ATI 3D Rage Pro (Turbo) AGP card that came with this Compaq DeskPro is all about.
We'll be doing some benchmarks and show some gameplay, and see what this card can do.

[@PixelPipes]

I consider the Rage Pro (Turbo) to be ATI's first truly usable 3D accelerator. Not the worst card to have in an earlier Pentium machine.

[@Knebebelmeyer]

most prebuild pcs use this card!! i used it too but with a real Glide Voodoo Card!

[@kyles8524]

i always thought these rage cards were crappy,even the rage 128 ultra was kind of crappy

[@Knebebelmeyer]

@@kyles8524 and u was absolut right about that! it was crap! the only purpose for these cards, was the Display Output for Voodoo Cards! in this time all Cards were crap against a voodoo card. Even the Matrox Cards cant stay with it

[@TheRetroRaven]

@@kyles8524 The Rage 128 Pro / Fury Pro was decent - they faired quite well against the competition from 3DFX (Voodoo 3) and Matrox G200. The Ultra / GL versions of the Rage 128 are often downclocked a littlebit, but can easily be tweaked. It's actually my favorite "underdog" card. Phil has a great review of that specific release. What people seem to forget, is that ATI fixed a lot of the issues further down the road with driver-updates, but then most people probably already upgraded to something different. I had my Rage 128 Pro into the early 2000s until I replaced it with a GeForce 2 GTS , it faired quite well on both my Pentium 3 500MHz and my Pentium 4.

[@heedmywarning2792]

This makes me think back to the time when I had an ATI All In Wonder card.

[@wishusknight3009]

I have had several of them through the years. Those were the cards that were some of the longest lived in my computer for sure.

[@dykodesigns]

That is a nice looking bios screen. Looks much better designed then the usual Award and AMI designs. That Compaq bios has actual pull-down menus which I find pretty neat.

[@BalancedSpirit79]

WOW this brought me back. The Rage Pro (Xpert@Work version) was the first 3D video card I ever owned. It came inside a PC I got as a high school graduation present. It was AGP2X and had only 4 megs of RAM because I didn't feel like ponying up for the upgrade stick, but it allowed me to finally play hardware accelerated 3D games. Not only did the "Turbo" drivers give me a nice performance boost, I also used a handy little program called the Rage Pro Tweaker, which allowed me to OC the graphics core to 105 Mhz and the RAM to 115 Mhz. I definitely got the most out of that little card. I tried searching for it but had no luck. If you can find that OC program I would love to see your results, just make sure to glue some heatsinks on, or at the very least you can do what I did and just keep the chassis open and point a fan inside, lol.

[@eddiehimself]

Ahh man, Tomb Raider III and Ultim@te Race Pro on the Compaq Deskpro EP... that's a real special piece of my childhood right there ❤

[@harleyn3089]

I have an ATI 3D Rage Pro Turbo card. Mine is an "XPERT @Play" card from 1997. I bought it brand new back then. It's in an old machine paired up with an IBM/Cyrix 586 PR200 processor.

[@con2botonesnadamas433]

Pentium II/III Agp system (or Amd comparable one) video? Instant like!

[@PROSTO4Tabal]

I remembered time back then playing Thief The Dark Project on S3 Trio3D with no textures! All wash out jeez what a times

[@infinity2z3r07]

Nobody created so many PlayStation gamers as S3

[@PsicoShadow84]

I've got the same Compaq, but upgraded it from a 233 and this ATI card, to a 450 processor and Voodoo3 2000 AGP card. In 800x600, got 3250 3DMarks with the Voodoo3 and 3585 with a TNT2.

[@RetroSpector78]

Yeah tnt2 and voodoo3 are far superior. This is more on the level of a voodoo1. I did found 3dmark99 numbers to be not very represenative. For example on my riva128 I only get a score of 750, while it outperforms the ATI card in every single game I tried.

[@thomasburns1846]

I always look forward to and enjoy your videos.

[@InfiniteClouds]

Best version of Tomb Raider is the ATICIF api version with one of these cards. Runs in Windows, 800x600 30fps and no rolling textures like in 3dfx

[@drzeissler]

I like the PCX1 Version in 1024x768...

[@PROSTO4Tabal]

We need part 2 of the video !

[@wishusknight3009]

The ATI port was certainly pretty decent.

[@drzeissler]

@@wishusknight3009 the rave-port too.

[@chrisducati26]

The best version of tombraider is the Rendition Vérité

[@BadManiac]

Heck yeah! More Rage for the people :)

[@Breakfast_of_Champions]

TURBO!! 😏

[@RetroSpector78]

PRO !

Nostalgic card for me

[@86smoke]

3:50 - yes, you may use torx screwdriver, but flat one also fits there, plus it is always laying around closer than torx. Anyway, that Ati Rage Pro is OK for this system (but only just), however I think we may all agree that this machine needs 3DFX.

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

I have a system with the same cpu and a PCI Radeon 7500. Unfortunately it doesn’t have an AGP slot. It still gets about 2300 in 3dmark 99 though.

[@greypatch8855]

Love the video man

[@FeelingShred]

Idea for video: try run Doom3 in ATI/AMD Gpu's of the time (2002/2003 models) to try replicating that issue where the game would be too dark

[@Slammy555]

I had an ATI Rage Fury Pro back in the day. I believe it was replaced with the 9800 Pro All in Wonder. I upgraded my Pentium 150 to a PII 350 with a new MoBo that failed in less than a year that lead to my P3B-F install which lasted for several years with an upgrade to I believe an 850 MHz. My 9800 Pro lasted through my subsequent P4 Northbridge upgrade. I remember Q3 being hard on the RFP as well. It was why I left the franchise, I couldn't compete. Fortunately Unreal Tournament did well.

[@redleader6442]

This chip was built into the second revision of the original iMac, back in '98. For Mac games of the time (Nanosaur, Bugdom, GL Quake with RAVE option, Age of Empires), this card was more than perfect. However, I definitely wouldn't use this card for PC gaming. Voodoo2 or TNT2 Ultra would be my personal choices.

[@wishusknight3009]

I keep my p2 450 equipped system with a voodoo2 and a somewhat not so period correct gforce3 ti200. It is nice to be able to max out the detail somewhat. The other option I kept packed neatly in the case to swap in for being more period correct was an asus tnt1. There is the occasional vintage lan party where I am and they have rules for what is period correct or not. And often the most powerful that is allowed is a tnt1 or 2.

[@redleader6442]

@@wishusknight3009 That is quite handy to have the GF3 available for swapping. I do something similar, although rather than swap out the cards in my Pentium II/TNT2 or K6-2/Voodoo2 systems, I just switch to either my Pentium III/Geforce2 GTS or Pentium 4/GeForce FX 5700 Ultra systems for better frames and higher quality. I try to avoid too many part swaps if I can help it, unless something is broken or needs cleaning.

[@wishusknight3009]

@@redleader6442 That is a good thing to do. Most of the time I don't care if I am strictly period correct. The Gforce 3 is what is in it much of the time except at the annual lan party. It seems like I am at the threshold for some early games that may not quite behave correctly on the GF3 but at this point its not big enough for me to worry about swapping out the card. If a gf1 or 2 were to fall into my lap I may even move it to that permanently. The GF3 is so under driven that its performance isn't going to be all that much better than a tnt 2 ultra or gforce1 or 2. And there are no games exclusive to 98 that really make use of the GF3 shaders either. I also have an "ultimate 98" build consisting of a p4 3.0ghz prescott on an intel 865 board. Currently it needs a different video board but I have ran an ATI 9700 (non pro) in it. This is the first computer the Gforce 3 lived in, but it got moved to the P2 so I could complete a game the lower card was crapping on. And that just sort of stayed there. But the 9700 is starting to get artifacts at times, even after a heatsink replacement and the package retainer removed. So I am waiting patiently for a gforce 6 6800 of some sort to fall into my lap. I certainly wont go out of my way to buy one. I also really don't care about the P4 as much, as its easily replaced. And I find I use the P2 more anyhow. The ultimate 98 build got assembled, had windows and some games put on it, used once or twice and put away... Oh well.

[@greypatch8855]

PCBWAY is the way

[@mausimus1]

Loving the DEViANCE issue of GTA 3 you got there...

[@Ramdileo_sys]

Hey.. PCBWaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy !!!... 😅🤣😂 Because as we all know "PCB" stands for "Pretty.. Compaq ...... ¿Beige? 🤔¿Machine?..... ¿doesn't ? 🤭 Just kidding.. nice to see the channel growing.. ✌👍👍

[@megamanfan3]

1:53 I guess that BIOS hasn't changed in years as my HP ENVY AiO PC uses the very same menu.

[@IntegerOfDoom]

BIOS design peaked with the 486 AMIBIOS. It even had mouse support! Modern UEFI BIOS designs make me want to vomit with their cheesy graphics and Flustercuck interface.

[@PavelUrusov]

I used to have an HP Elite 8300 which was released in 2012 and its BIOS/EFI setup utility looked exactly the same.

[@toddstewart9070]

I had this card, but I don't recall it having the mem slot on it, mine was 8mb, and the one I had also had a s-video port on it. It performed well for me for the time. It played Half-Life and several others quite well. Some I had to play at 640x480, some at 800x600.

[@RetroSpector78]

Yeah there were lots of different variants. Different agp speeds, compaq branded / other oems, 2mb, 4mb, 8mb

[@toddstewart9070]

@@RetroSpector78 Mine was not oem, retail ATI Rage Pro Turbo 8mb AGP2x. Think I paid 200 bucks us for it then, in early 1998. I upgraded to the ATI All-in-wonder Radeon 32mb ddr a couple of years later and wow what a difference that was. ATI made some fantastic cards in the 2000s, the 9800pro being my favorite for its time.

[@burntoutelectronics]

I had the exact issue with a Riva 128 on windows 98. It’s out of the box drivers had zero OpenGL support but I tracked down the last drivers and I was off and away with glquake

[@kyles8524]

i have like 5 of these cards lol, i have a bog box full of different ati rage cards series cards like mach 32 mach 64 XL rage II rage IIc,128 and ultras and a few other ones I almost threw away but decided to keep them.The only old ATI rage cards I have that are actually worth money are the two Rage Fury Maxx cards I have with dual Rage 128 chips on it

[@RetroSpector78]

Cool. I am already happy with the 2 128 pro cards I have. Those are also pretty decent. Better than the 20 other ATI cards I have. Always funny to try and make sense of their naming schemes. What a mess.

[@kyles8524]

@@RetroSpector78 yeah the ati rage cards are actually so bad when i used to test them in benchmarks the games that could run in software rendering actually ran better off just the cpu then off an ati rage card and the cpu

[@AshtonCoolman]

I have one of these and it's great for the ATI API games

[@RetroSpector78]

yeah that's also on my list to try.

[@thedopplereffect00]

Why you trying to run these benchmarks at 800x600? Quake probably would be fine at 512x384. 640x480 is a bit much for that generation

[@rodhester2166]

I had a win98 pc that built back in 1998, at that time i built it, the fastest cpu was 400mhz. ( a few months later there was a 450 one.) but I got the ait all in wonder pro with 4m on board and 4m added, it came with a driver / software disc from ati and never had any trouble at all.. I guess because it was not a factory built machine with generic drivers. I just sold that pc last month.. one last thought, I had 128ram maybe upping from the 64 would help out some..

[@RetroSpector78]

Things were moving fast back then that’s for sure. Here the hard drive also seems to be a bottleneck. (Or could be the swapping file due to memory limitations). It would sometimes freeze a bit with lots of disk activity. Thought 64mb would have been enough for a system like this. But will try 128mb.

[@TheMikeMan777]

@@RetroSpector78 Yeah that or the UltraDMA disk access isn't enabled on both your hard disk controllers in your CMOS/BIOS or in Win98's Device manager. They might be set to PIO-4 or less which is much slower.

[@Geomanb]

Yes - I have got the motherboard of that exact PC. But I cannot get a standard floppy disk drive to be recognized by it….

[@doyouwtech9012]

Good video sir ! But I think you missed some troubles on your PC - if you look back at drivers detail you will see that your card is actualy working at AGP x1 not x2 which limit the card a lot. - PII 350 is way too slow for that time and missing SSE instructions from PIII used on those games I use to sell those cards because cheaper than 3DFX and at least we could have more than 65535 colors and better light and details in games instead of 3dfx Vertex lightning which was making most texture look pale orange most of the time ;) Bad thing about those cards is that ATI was selling tones of variations of it to save on price for OEM etc... so you could have 2 cards with same names but not same specs (frequency of gpu, ram, etc) always avoiding ATI card labeled Compaq, HP or any other big brand as you could be sure they had lower specs that pure ATI cards.

[@djmidnightwolf]

I have the card that is labeled Radeon 128 AIW but is Rage 3D in AGP.

[@RetroSpector78]

It's a big mess how these cards are called and what you finally end up getting.

[@pacochales9507]

Merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo.

[@framebuffer.10]

Interestingly, in software mode (and DOS) the Pentium II 350 should be able to achieve around 35 fps in Quake at 640x480 (which is almost double than using OpenGL on the Rage Pro Turbo 😅)

[@privateaccount3405]

Ok.

[@explorer9049]

Yup

[@SeeJayPlayGames]

That's why this card (and others of its class) were called "3D decelerators" back in the day.

[@thedopplereffect00]

Really the problem is he's mixing 2 different generations of hardware.

[@okramediev404]

What are you say is not right, i get with my old amd k6-2 @ 350Mhz with rage pro opengl@640x480 quake timedemo demo1 30.2fps and it looks amazing.

[@FeelingShred]

ATI/AMD cards are weird, even to this day. They are beefy no doubt, but for example I had an issue with a 2009 Radeon GPU where I could only achieve max performance after closing the ATI Catalyst software. Hardware hampered down by software.

[@omfgbunder2008]

Normally I'm not a AGP person, but I don't think I've seen one with a RAM slot 🤔 Edit: when you showed the diagnostic, it said 4mb and no extra memory, is the stick working okay?

[@RetroSpector78]

This card has 2 mb sgram soldered onboard and a 2mb stick. So giving it a total of 4mb

[@TheUAoB]

I noticed at 9:11 you're using AGP 1x. Is that a limitation of the motherboard? I'd be rather surprised if the card isn't at least capable of AGP 2x.

[@TheUAoB]

I just checked, it should definitely work at 2x, since that's what the TURBO means. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI_Rage_series

[@RetroSpector78]

Pretty sure this an agp 1x card (also identified as such in the documentation). Not motherboard limited. Think the TURBO marketing is a big scam tbh. You never knew what you’d get. I do have a 2x version also but think the performance difference is minimal.

[@SeeJayPlayGames]

@@RetroSpector78 The only time AGP 2x/4x/8x really helps is when you're transferring textures across the bus, not when you're running completely from framebuffer. Same deal with PCIe. It helps in setting the game up; once that's done, as long as everything's within the framebuffer it doesn't make a difference.

[@baroncalamityplus]

One thing I noticed that is missing from retro channels is retro controller. Like to see if driving wheels or joysticks would help with this games.

[@RetroSpector78]

Yeah need to get myself a steering wheel. Don’t have that many controllers / joysticks.

[@SeeJayPlayGames]

@@RetroSpector78 especially with all the driving games I see you trying to play with a keyboard...

[@BCProgramming]

Back in the day, I was never able to get OpenGL to work at all with my ATI Rage Pro Turbo AGP, none of the drivers I installed ever had OpenGL. I was able to find a Quake II MiniGL driver that ran, but was very glitchy and had a lot of geometry errors, so I just assumed it didn't have it.

[@jaybird57]

I loved my 9700 pro all in wonder....

[@charlesgrubbs8094]

That card or on board SIS were in about every big box vendor with the exception of Dell and Gateway with 8mb variants of TNT or voodoo cards that were more prevalent in 16mb forms. Someone with basic computer repair knowledge at that point usually made extra money off graphics card, ram and hard drive upgrades .

[@cyberjack]

not to bad of a card card in day and a PII with 64MB .. quite powerful too Mine had like 8MB lol

[@RetroSpector78]

Have a box full of other ATI cards with all kinds of memory , bandwidth and buzzword combinations. (Rage, pro, xl , fury, max, turbo, 3d….)

[@wishusknight3009]

I wonder how this card would compare to a voodoo1? It certainly had the specs on paper to keep up, but from what I remember the V1 was still the better choice. At least at resolutions below 640.. Like 512x384 and so forth.

[@wishusknight3009]

@Corporeal Undead I know what a voodoo 1 is. This video is about 3d performance. There are plenty of apples to apples comparisons that can be made between the two.

[@RetroSpector78]

Comparing this to a voodoo1 would be fairly accurate. Voodoo2 and 3 were a lot faster that this ATI. Voodoo1 did have better support (glide games) early on. This card suffered from bad opengl support so quake ran pretty poor.

[@RetroSpector78]

Voodoo2 and 3 would be significantly faster than this ATI card.

[@rubberduck4966]

Your card shows the extended Memory Module installed but the Driver shows only 4MB Video RAM - this should be 8MB AFAIR. Please re-check with the module removed. If i'm wrong then you should only see 2MB after removing. If still shows 4MB then the Module might be defective.

[@RetroSpector78]

This card has 2mb soldered onto it and a 2mb expansion (according to the manual)

[@rubberduck4966]

@@RetroSpector78 the driver info said that no expansion exists. Thats the cause why i am worried about.

[@RetroSpector78]

@@rubberduck4966 Will check ... but the DeskPro manual does say it is a 2MB card with 2MB expansion.

[@prozacgodretro]

I was quite dissapointed back in the day when I took my few hard earned bucks and asked the guy at the counter "Is there a 3d graphics card, I can get that's affordable, I mean just to play a few games or low end ones" ... and he hands me that thing... which ... while having a directx stack... most certainly did not feel like a 3d graphics card... lol ( this was rather later in the era, it was a used card, and modestly priced... but not the 100's of dollars of a 3d card at the time. ... I'm thinking around ~2001? when I got it, expecting it to be something else, at the time my voodoos were faster on my computer)

[@RetroSpector78]

I feel your pain :)

[@mikatorkkeli4932]

Just got a radeon 7000 in pci for my retro build. Will be good for the gaming as my ET6000 dont have that much power, just a little bit more 3d in there :)

[@moeschizlac]

How does the ET6000 perform in 3d gaming? Do you have any videos with the ET6000?

[@mikatorkkeli4932]

@@moeschizlac ET6000 is a 2D card, very good with that, will run wolfenstain and doom but basically thats it :)

[@JVHShack]

Would it be possible to give the RAM expansion a closer look for those out there like me that would like to upgrade their own ATI Rage card? I have a Compaq tower that has the same card, but embedded into the motherboard and has the expansion slot available.

[@RetroSpector78]

Did that in my previous video where I go over the Compaq deskpro hardware and components. there are some close-up s of the RAM expansion.

[@Ramdileo_sys]

@@RetroSpector78 Hey.. PCBWaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy !!!... 😅🤣😂 Because as we all know "PCB" stands for "Pretty.. Compaq ...... ¿Beige? 🤔¿Machine?..... ¿doesn't ? 🤭 Just kidding.. nice to see the channel growing.. congrats ✌👍👍

[@SeeJayPlayGames]

@@Ramdileo_sys you're on the wrong channel with that ;)

[@okramediev404]

Your result are way less then mine with slower AMD K6-2 Socket7 machine. With these ATi cards i recommend driver that works with ATi 3DCIF games, so you get Direct3D, OpenGL and 3DCIF. Anybody have used 110x OpenGL-s for glquake, i get timedemo demo1 30.2fps with my k6-2+@350Mhz, but bottom of the screen has flickering with them, any fix would be nice. With OpenGL 1068 with same PC i get 28.3fps, which is second best at the moment and game screen picture is correct, also 1068 seems fastest with Quake2 and 5.38/5.40/5.40.1 3dcif compatibe drivers, Quake2 fps is 24.6 (without any tweaks). Would i get better performance with pentium 2 + rage pro and Quake games? Tested Quake2 v3.20 with AMDK6-2+ 400Mhz and OpenGL 1068 Original: 640x480 - Rage PRo LT 8MB timedemo 1 map demo1.dm2 fps 24.6 More FPS to Quake2 OpenGL with cfg file Autoexec.cfg: 640x480 - Rage PRo LT 8MB timedemo 1 map demo1.dm2 fps 26.6 OpenGL Bi-linear disabled+Autoexec.cfg: 640x480 - Rage PRo LT 8MB timedemo 1 map demo1.dm2 fps 28.5

[@randomguydoes2901]

This is what our dell came with... they messed the order up and gave us a horizontal case dell PII 350mhz and not the tower case. Worse specs, so instead we got flight simulator 98. Was this card bland. It let you Run The Game(tm). I wonder what we missed out on with that PC, probably both slower CPU and GPU :(

[@woldemunster9244]

Those screws are compatible with flathead drivers. :D

[@JVHShack]

And Torx, not "torque"

[@RetroSpector78]

Damn ... 2 screw-ups in a 3 second segment :) Guess I can't pin this one on my bad accent :)

[@Richard.Linder]

@@RetroSpector78 While we're on that topic... I think the word you were looking for is "fluid" not "fluent". But don't feel bad about it. Your English is still ten times better than any other language most us I can speak (those of us that even know a second language)! Most of us would not even be half as fluent in a language that is not our native language!

[@RetroSpector78]

@@Richard.Linder Yeah I sometimes have these little hick-ups ... It actually sounded wrong as I was uttering the words :) That's the problem with thinking you know a language really well (and generally getting compliments about it). There's always that small percentage of the tie where you screw up :)

[@RonJohn63]

Is that RAM at the tail end of the ATI card?

[@warrax111]

yes, it's SGRAM upgrade. under it, there are basic SGRAM modules, soldered onto the card. Probably basic is 4 MB, with upgrade 8 MB of memory.

[@holleholl3057]

Back in the day, most people using a graphics card like the ATI Rage Pro would have boostered up the 3D performance with a 3dfx Voodoo or Voodoo 2...Remember, the most recent driver you´ve installed dates from 2002 - after the year 2000/2001 , most graphics cards could handle the 3D-Part in most games as good as the traditional 2D-Part since DirectX slowly kicked in starting to rule the entire 3D API section....

[@RetroSpector78]

Yeah I think ATI suffered a lot due to bad drivers. They didn’t have the greatest cards back then (3dfx and later nvidia were king), but combining mediocre hardware with bad drivers wasn’t ideal.

[@kasimirdenhertog3516]

Interesting, how you see these old games running at 20 fps and think ‘yep, that runs fine!’ while you couldn’t bear to watch something modern like GTA run at that 🤨

[@DAVIDGREGORYKERR]

What about a DAA78L+AMD A10-7800k and 512GB of DDR3 RAM

[@markolafploeg3265]

Nice

[@jamzales]

Do you have a safe download link that's secure?

[@316diag]

there is an official Compaq app that allows the user to change boot screen image. (replace the red on white Compaq logo)

[@agy234]

Hp still uses the saMe style bios even on a modern uefi machine

[@JenniferinIllinois]

3D Rage Pro Turbo. ATI used about every buzzword they could think of. Hehehe..

[@RetroSpector78]

Don’t forget fury, max, Xpert, XL…. And you can have cards with all possible combinations. Horrible.

[@JenniferinIllinois]

@@RetroSpector78 LOL!!! Definitely. Throughout the years, I've had plenty of these cards. I'll just echo your findings. ;)

[@agentkruger]

me for the same configuration I put an Nvidia Vanta16 mo ​​of ram and everything works fine.

[@BlackEpyon]

Not sure why the card was branded as "Compaq," these ATi Rage Pro cards were everywhere. I've still got several lying around.

[@RetroSpector78]

ATI had lots of OEM deals going one, probably the only reason why this card was popular. It wasn't all the good compared to the Voodoo and Nvidia cards that came out around the same time.

[@BlackEpyon]

@@RetroSpector78 But it was cheap, which meant it was in lots of business and low-end machines.

[@itstheweirdguy]

I was always hugely let down by the graphics performance of ATI. The TV stuff back in the day was fun and it was fine as a display card. Having to change things in BIOS, Bugs, Driver issues, crashes. I know it was win 95 win 98 era but CMON. You'll be fine playing diablo and starcraft, etc with em though. Beat the heck out of the S3 and VIA motherboard chipsets of the era though, but that's not saying much, that's sad.

[@RetroSpector78]

I hate their branding ... turbo / rage / pro / fury / .... you had to be a rocket scientist to make sense of their naming schemes.

[@retrochristmas7329]

I wish modern cards had removable memory. When you spend 1000 bucks on a card it should he upgradeable and for the size there is no reason they shouldn't.

[@Guy_that_likes_waffles]

still better than the trident 3d image 9750 i have lol

[@Hakan89]

I got myself some 900mhz athlon cpu with 128 mb ram from trash.. i think i will give it some chance to shine again

[@Hakan89]

@4:3 Gaming i built it , i put a GeForce mx 440 64mb and a 40 gb hdd , it worked for 1 day then partitioned with Windows xp cd a 120gb hdd to only 40 gb , it works like charm . I don't have much time to enjoy it 😂 i want to Paint the case in white because it's fairly modern (2006 2008 era) and deep clean all the components 😁😁

[@Hakan89]

@4:3 Gaming i also have a 3dfx banshee from a friend , but its heatsink is missing .And a Voodoo2 but i don't have the passtrough cable. That friend gave me even a 512kb cirrus logic video card,and it still works 😯

[@Hakan89]

@4:3 Gaming i installed Windows 98 SE :D

[@eightbit1975]

I have a few of these. The only redeeming feature of this card is the fact that it is natively compatible with BeOS. And even that you are just getting the resolution and colors...not the performance. These suck...but if its all you got...hey.

[@Jkauppa]

fpga design of cpu emulation, just-in-time core rewiring per instruction, not many fpga cells needed per instruction, ie, mul, div, add etc. meaning the fpga logic cells circuit needs to implement the JIT instruction implementation, fpga-in-fpga, minimize the logic footprint in silicon, no asic arithmetic, FP16 to FP64 assumed, also INT16-64 assume, maybe 8-bit FP/INT, as example

[@Jkauppa]

I assume even normal intel/altera cyclone V 110K element logic can be used to emulate current processors, using this technique

[@Jkauppa]

check with ide-ssd if it is the issue, or not

[@mrwang420]

I like how this has upgradable RAM but nothing today does. What a shame

[@N0zer0]

This PC would benefit a lot from more RAM and an SSD

[@wishusknight3009]

But then that would not be period correct. And flash cards often don't do very well on windows 98 when swapping starts to occur. As lots of random writes ends up being much slower than even a mediocre platter drive. In mine I actually use a caching scsi card and 9.1 gig 10k cheetah. Then I have a larger ide drive for bulk storage. Though flash storage is certainly an option as a second drive when the OS and temp dir's are on a fast platter drive. I have never tried the ide to sata adaptors with a budget ssd though. Some tell me they are problematic for getting DMA to work.

[@RetroSpector78]

Don’t really like SSDs for systems like this. Its got a networking card and I can get stuff from the network really fast. Did notice some swapping going on, perhaps the 64mb could use a bump to 128mb

[@edsiefker1301]

SD2IDE is perfect for this machine. They'll saturate the IDE bus no problem. No, there are no problems with swapping.

[@Kspcs909]

Recently i gifted a Pentium 3 PC ,450mhz with the exact same case to my cousin.. Ended up painted purple and broken in multiple Pieces 😩

[@wishusknight3009]

I did the same thing with my teenage son. Only it was considered an extended loan and that I wanted it back one day in one piece. So far he has taken really good care of it and asks whenever he wants to do something to it. He has started doing airbrushing and has asked if he can do something on it, so lately it has been us deciding what would work on it, and him practicing on other surfaces. It is my original gamer I had back in the day and fully restored to the config I had around 1997. So it has sentimental meaning. And my son understands me well enough to how many conniptions I would have should he ruin it. But I am all for him painting up something nice on it.

[@SeeJayPlayGames]

That should be the last gift, then. No respect.

[@SMlFFY85]

My first PC had a Rage Pro Turbo intergrated into the motherboard, it was really crap for gaming and made Half-Life unplayable because it wouldn't allow me to see underwater. Had to upgrade to a Voodoo 3 3000.

[@thomasloney612]

I hate when KZbinrs try wowing us with shiny, new video cards we can't get!!!

[@infinity2z3r07]

I remember hearing that rage pro turbo was optimized for certain benchmarks but slower than original rage pro. Dishonest marketing by ATI to call it "turbo"

[@Mingohp]

Hello. I purchased an Acer 915V 80286. You have some problem with the bios. I'll write to you on Twitter. I would appreciate any help. Best regards.

[@2dfx]

In a few games you're getting frame limited to 30fps...that doesn't seem right.

[@krissjacobsen9434]

Windows' built-in display drivers were always utter shit. It was just a stopgap until you got the real driver installed.

[@RetroAmateur1989]

Like who thought of that name for that card? A 14 year old? 🤣

[@tulfnulf3039]

Sponsored video.... so sad era :-( One minute of hell for me ;-))

[@Richard.Linder]

It's worth it, if that's what it takes for us to keep getting great content like this. You have averts on TV. At least this way, the content creator can choose a sponsor that is actually relevant to him and his channel.I have no problem with it. We are watching his content for free. He's entitled to some financial assistance.

[@greatquux]

Pcbway sponsors a lot of channels I like and they seem to do a good job from what I’ve heard

[@tulfnulf3039]

@@Richard.Linder I naively thought that the purpose of this kind of content is to share experiences and not necessarily earn (even a little bit in this case) money. Of course, i LOVE this channel, so , I was so surprised to see an advert in one of his video. And a youtuber can broadcast great content without join the economic model of the host. Obsviously, almost all the people who will react to my comment are convinced of the contrary . I have a problem with it..... but everybody is free.... and i don't have a problem with that :-)

[@O.Shawabkeh]

Btw, in case someone interested, there's a bidding on a new ATI Mach64 VLB, on US eBay. (I'm not the seller)

[@cesaru3619]

so ati and now amd was always shlt