Comparing DeadLock Pre-Alpha to Now (Neon Prime renamed DeadLock)

[@ayr1190]

Personally love how they completely changed the setting. The gaming market’s oversaturated with so many futuristic scifi shooters now a days. Absolutely dig the style change

[@vicente321]

I actually liked the sci fi setting, but I can understand why they would change the design. It would look too much like overwatch.

[@mechanicalsilence1]

What would be cool is if they release the sci fi setting in a future update, you have the same map on a technical level but it would look completely different. Maybe also cheap sci fi skin for each hero.

[@chauncho6349]

@user-zu5mb1pz2b no they won't. maybe an arena, but mobas are one map games.

[@haiperbus]

@user-zu5mb1pz2b the main dev team is also the dota 2 designers, more maps would be interesting but it's already a huge hassle to balance and tune one map, much less mainting multiple.

[@Bazgracz]

Me too, I just can't get enough and I'm not even big fan of moba but whole artstyle pulls me in

[@kha4911]

Pre-Alpha Infernus out here looking like he's from Spy Kids 3

[@kozumozu]

glow up

[@infinityowl4203]

don't you mean "3D"!

[@mukash1838]

That's Kilometers Dismorales

[@ferhult3373]

and instead of souls there was coins just like from spy kids3 Yayaya

[@MVPMTKING]

Lmao damn

[@nbshftr]

it would have been tragic if the industry had ANOTHER cyberpunk or fantasy/steampunk moba/class game. the prohibition/occult aesthetic is so refreshing

[@kozumozu]

Definitely more unique

[@vina6665]

Didn't know that was the name of this style. I've been referring it as victorian steampunk(ish) style

[@nbshftr]

@@vina6665 prohibition is the mobster era

[@vina6665]

@@nbshftr Oh i see, makes sense. What does occult mean though?

[@nbshftr]

@@vina6665 look it up

[@Rosa_Lobos]

thanks GOD they have a pretty competent design team

[@kozumozu]

The hero design is amazing

[@billlee3851]

Always have

[@SadiCWIn32exe]

Hero design looks visually repulsive though

[@seb1520]

@@SadiCWIn32exeehhh no

[@Christian-tq4oz]

@@SadiCWIn32exe what do you mean? the designs them selves are great - now textures and models in game obviously not, but it's a alpha and those art passes will come with time Can you elaborate why you think there repulsive?

[@NoshuHyena]

Have to admit that some of it did look very cool and pretty. But the new setting is so much more creative and interesting.

[@kozumozu]

Definitely more unique

[@im50yearsold]

They dodged a bullet here

[@kDenos]

style change to dystopian neo-noir fits SO much better. wow. Great work.

[@kozumozu]

I love it

[@thundergodxarbala]

god this explains Infernus' goofy run cycle, inferno was a huge dork and he's trying to be cooler to fit the new setting

[@kajbalm6733]

I mean he has finger guns thats like the opposite of cool

[@ufuk5872]

@@kajbalm6733 But it somehow loop back of being cool because he's an elemental. What use of a gun if you're the gun.

[@ZetaPrime9699]

​@@kajbalm6733Nah when everyone else is trying to kill you with silenced dual SMGs and miniguns whipping out your finger guns is objectively a power move

[@goggleassistant]

@@kajbalm6733 lowkey the finger guns were part of the charm that made me main this character lol

[@Flannmusic]

I'm so happy they went the 1920's occult instead new york. It's such a unique look and I've always liked the aesthetic like when they did it for dota underlords Can't wait to see what everyone looks like in a few months.

[@KungFuGangsta]

Erm actually it’s 1940s New York

[@Flannmusic]

@@KungFuGangsta whoops

[@kozumozu]

The hero design is too good

[@X1erra]

It’s amazing to see how many “futuristic” game designs carry over to a distant past setting as a supernatural realm. They made the right choice.

[@SirCrusher]

"Once technology is advanced enough, it is indistinguishable from magic"

[@foko3036]

I have to say, Infernus's new design is such a glowup from the old one.

[@ScottieTheFox]

2:19 good LORD, having 6 slots per category would have been insane late game- and being able to buy upgrades out of order would have led to some really absurd strats

[@kozumozu]

The team fights would’ve been crazy

[@jf_paes1589]

Best thing Valve could've done was change the overall aesthetic. I'm glad they were smart to realize that making a futuristic hero shooter, when ALL other hero shooters are futuristic wouldn't do their game any favours, and opted for a 1930s occult aesthetic instead, it's immediately eycatching, and doesn't help that the characters received major design upgrades as well. Neon Prime genuinely looked overwhelmingly lame.

[@kozumozu]

way more interesting

[@MiekuahProductions]

Besides, the other moba is either medieval or futuristic themed. Going to the middle ground such as fantasy urban theme is the way to go.

[@amongstus4418]

Even though the Cyberpunk aesthetic looks cool, it's too close to Overwatch. I can get why they decided to change it. Also the Neon lights likely would just add clutter to the visuals in a team fight and the new setting is a lot more unique.

[@misira8256]

They changed it, because all playtesters unanimously hated it. Current settings is only 10 months old.

[@self-proclaimedanimator]

@@misira8256 no way

[@misira8256]

@@self-proclaimedanimator This game changed a lot. First, it was a VR muliplayer Half life game, then it was a first person shooter with payload delivery map; later it became a Moba. At one point, the game was traditional 3 lanes 5v5.

[@Gomeshiro]

Bro was Miles morales being a spy kids character holy

[@sussus9348]

Oh wow, I swear I saw Yamato's model near the end of the video. She really is a neon prime asset. Just goes to show you, even though Deadlock looks great right now, they still have a lot of work to do!!!!

[@kozumozu]

Bebop too

[@Appletank8]

Yea I think Bebop, Yamato, Shiv, Talon, are barely changed from their Neon Prime designs, so definitely need a total overhaul.

[@spritefroggy]

@@Appletank8 Eh, I think Shiv looks pretty good as-is. The greaser style *just* fits in with the game, even if greasers are a product of an era slightly after the prohibition.

[@jonathand.t.5051]

​@@spritefroggyActually, I think the game is set post-prohibition! Like the early 50s

[@Appletank8]

@@spritefroggy Perhaps, but his arm definitely needs to change, since it's literally a metal arm with wood textures.

[@GetLawnmower]

to be honest if it was still neo futuristic i probably wouldn't have bothered the games setting is SO refreshing, i love it so much

[@AhmedMalaki]

They made the right call changing the whole game

[@kozumozu]

def

[@AhmedMalaki]

@@kozumozu the whole film noir 50s 60s aesthetic wasn’t used that much in modern days It looks so cool in this game I hope we get old school cartoon trailers for this game

[@Grandalf3004]

I think the old setting wouldve been cool but i would be lying if i were to say that this isnt a million times better

[@Ghostx_x-un1ji]

Is it just me or does Pre-Alpha Infernus kind of look like NPC Miles Morales

[@kozumozu]

Imma do my own thing

[@rykb]

They haven't change Bibop at all, now I wonder what lore he had back then, and what lore he have now

[@hexmymind]

Almost same, scrap robot

[@Pandaxtor]

@@hexmymind Soon to be scrap golem.

[@gachatookthekids]

Always wondered why his in-game model looked so different from his potrait

[@kozumozu]

junkyard golem🤖

[@animagkrasver9872]

they haven't YET, the redesign is in the making

[@SomeScruffian]

As much as I like Neo-Tokyo settings, I really do think the cult noir aesthetic really fits well and makes it stand out from others.

[@kozumozu]

Not many games with that aesthetic

[@luk4aaaa]

extremely happy they changed it to what it is now, older version looked worse and more bland, current Deadlock feels more unique.

[@AlterRequiem]

Man, neon prime is so soulless by comparison. I really like cyberpunk stuff too, but I'm so glad they pivoted the design.

[@kozumozu]

Way easier on the eyes tbh

[@stefani.5737]

Noir occult is such a cooler theme and im glad they went for it.

[@hyung2401]

2:24 this is visual nightmare lol

[@vettie]

To be fair, the current UI isn't that much better. Still so much placeholder stuff in the game.

[@thedofflin]

​@@vettieI honestly quite like the shop UI, I think it's quite well designed overall. The images for items could be more distinct, but that's my only concern.

[@kozumozu]

The ui is only gonna get better

[@VuongNgocHieu99]

@@thedofflin same thought. having alot of struggle differentiate item from item.

[@Bryan-mw4en]

oof.. they almost got concord-ed

[@kozumozu]

-400m

[@Dallows65]

They still got some traces of concord they need to scrape off with a damned belt sander.

[@Menon9767]

2:48 omg I always thought walkers looked strange, they make so much more sense in the neon cyberpunk style

[@kozumozu]

Crab

[@Frazamatron]

Hard to believe Vindicta was almost a bug

[@kozumozu]

Hornet 🐝

[@apecksar1858]

So they havent changed the look of Bebop at all huh

[@kozumozu]

Yamato too

[@rrooyy2]

Both Yamato and Bebop are going to get model reworks apparently, along with Shiv and Viscous, and a few others I can't remember.

[@CatfishBradley]

@@rrooyy2 Grey Talon is 1000% getting reworked as well

[@iboy2ward2]

@@rrooyy2 I think shiv is fine tbh

[@creepyghost928]

@@rrooyy2why viscous? she’s okay

[@lewisbirkett4428]

I much prefer the newer style. That being said I'd love to see what the original half life style looked like

[@Twigggggy]

im so glad they changed his outdated monday night combat look he looks 100x better

[@Snoyyuy]

I really want to see the upcoming remodels of the current characters. For example, the Gray Talon remodel on its new icon, and which yamato concept will they choose

[@Adamski-]

As someone who hasn't played or watched like a single full minute of gameplay from this game.. To me when i imagine the game, it still looks like the pre-alpha

[@Julian_H]

everything's improved with a cool hat

[@taibasarovadil]

I love that they just renamed tech to spirit

[@kozumozu]

magic

[@animagkrasver9872]

Glad i see many people appreciating the new art direction they took, because i'm abosolutely in love with and it's such a breath of fresh air among many other mainstream multiplayer games. Usually i see a lot of people shitting on the games graphics as if it's a final product when it's literally far from it's launch and you can clearly see a lot isn't polished and multiple characters will get a full redesign

[@kozumozu]

It’s so rare

[@whiskywaffles9416]

Lovecraftian style always better

[@kozumozu]

I love it

[@Klinfran]

I actually liked the neon futuristic city more but I admit it wouldnt help the game distinguish from the competition and a change had to be made to make it more marketeable, Im glad they went for ~1920 setting as its original and sets it apart. Character wise I prefer the 1920 inpsired designs way more than the futuristic ones, except the ones that were left unchanged and still fit the steampunk/occult 1920 setting, Yamato seems to be left untouched from the alpha but she still fits well in the new design.

[@kozumozu]

A few heroes are confirmed to get redesigns ! Including yamato

[@qdotexe]

I wanna see Ivy's original design. Her file name is still Tengu. I like how Nano has changed also.

[@kozumozu]

Definitely better

[@maboilaurence8227]

If there's anything to learn here, is that Valve love to take their time, but they sure can deliver when they do.

[@kozumozu]

Valve has too much money, they have the freedom to

[@dpa4016]

You can still see a lot of the DNA of the Asian setting in all the robotics in the game, from the walkers to the heroes like Bebop and Yamato especially. Yamato is straight Japanese (right?) but are those real kanji in the pre-alpha, or is it more of a fictional asian-ish language? I do wonder if this setting will still exist in some form as a second map. I don't think it looks bad at all - just a very different vibe and the Cursed Apple is far more unique in gaming. (Reading some of the comments here and I see that MOBAs are one-map games, I'm cool with that! I can see the immense level of detail and thought poured into every aspect of Deadlock's)

[@kozumozu]

Hopefully we also get other gamemodes with other maps

[@quaker5712]

​@@kozumozu A 2v2 or 3v3 mode on a smaller map would be cool.

[@CloudMV]

yeah gj on changing the art direction of the game completely

[@yes_aidann]

the neo map design gotta comeback as a seperate map sometimes after release right?(maybe like update 1.3 to 2.0) it looks kinda good

[@kozumozu]

hopefully

[@XxSakuyaa]

should be a map skin like how they added the feature to Dota 2

[@blz5459]

The first one looks made by concord devs 😂

[@jakepfrag]

You can see where Yamato came from. I honestly expect her to be first to get a visual redesign

[@thedofflin]

God that old item system, safe to say they absolutely nailed it now. So intuitive now.

[@xLeandroIX]

Im really curious to see the design changes of Viscous,Yamato,Gray Talon and Bebop,since for what i understand,they still the models of Neon Prime

[@kozumozu]

Moreeee mystique

[@LightsJusticeZ]

Ah so souls actually were originally coins. Explains all the voicelines when picking up dropped Soul Orbs and the callout about collecting coins from the characters.

[@Dedry]

the artstyle is what brought me in, the cyberpunk style may not be bad but it's so oversaturated that it wouldnt interest me at all, just the infernus's desighn made we wanna play this game (also inferunus's old desighn is imo very bad)

[@kozumozu]

nus > no

[@BEENON777]

The Bioschock setting is sooooo much better I’m glad they made the change

[@TewbBelrog]

They are both bioshocky in their own way

[@Padlock_Steve]

wish they kept the old skyline animation

[@Telpies]

dude gonna be honest thank fuck for the redesign

[@LOWKAN]

thank god they picked the HP Lovecraft theme rather then the space syfy look.

[@mrsato7508]

Cool, but they still should work on the art for items, it's definitely reminiscent of this sci-fi era. They need to do something more 1900-ish, maybe like cards?

[@kozumozu]

TAROT cards

[@BIueharvest]

It looked like monday night combat

[@ByImpel]

I would like to see how the old map plays out it looks interesting

[@gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683]

The enviroment art for neon prime is so intresting but the charecters are bad

[@kozumozu]

Infernus > Inferno

[@TheTriangle444]

Midboss death sound though sounds reallly Half Life Combiney

[@kozumozu]

I mean it was originally supposed to be half life themed

[@ThuThu-jz6xu]

Insane stuff for a prototype

[@Ulvorskets]

i love how bebop is just bebop

[@kozumozu]

bebop

[@gustavomendes4157]

Didn't know the fame would have an futuristic approach than steampunk/teslapunk I would say probably this was before thinking in the game aesthetic and artstyle, they thought on make a MOBA Hero Shooter first and then, the design And being honest, this steampunk/teslapunk style is WAY BETTER than futuristic

[@kozumozu]

Gameplay first

[@PepicWalrus]

Should of kept it as Project Citadel and in the Half-Life universe like it originally was meant to be but the Occult Noir is fun.

[@bane9951]

Deadlock is the next big esport and im all for it, this game is great on its own but the fact that it fixed so many issues with mobas is just amazing, a lot of the reasons why i quit league of legends or valorant are simply fixed with Deadlock. I do have one kind of a big gripe with Deadlock though, the map is fucking huge, why is it so big, it takes 2 years to rotate to a lane

[@kozumozu]

It made me quit Overwatch

[@rezarifaldi6617]

the origin of deadlock is Neon Prime so it make sense if the setting is sci fi

[@Rabavilas]

If they kept neon prime's aesthetic it would have definitely flopped cause it looks so generic

[@kozumozu]

Too many futuristic shooters

[@Nif-kun]

Thank god, the old model looked like he was about to wear a spider suit and do tiktok as a career.

[@kozumozu]

imma do my own thing

[@TewbBelrog]

Looking at the last few shots, yea nah, as cool as it looks the cyberpunk setting has some contrast issues I can see it being hard to read in frantic combat. Deadlock's aesthetic is cleaner by miles and the color scheme is easier on the eyes.

[@kozumozu]

definitely nicer on the eyes

[@JuiceBox000]

sick video!

[@Valttest]

Not gonna lie. Infernus kinda looked like plastic figurine you'd find in the toy isle of your local supermarket

[@architecthyde]

thank fucking god they change the artstyle

[@mara_____]

Im glad they changed the art direction cuz the cyberpunk sht looks like an NFT game

[@kozumozu]

lmaoo

[@salinaember9527]

i would 100% prefer to play in the pre-alpha map. do i want to play Lijiang Tower or Midtown? obvious answer.

[@kozumozu]

definitely hanamura

[@doganyucel9703]

Greatest decision to be ever made I am so fucking tired of cyber futuristic settings

[@kozumozu]

Concorde ☠️

[@Greyspecies9999]

this whole game is a vibe, as much as i absolutely hate the core mechanics of MOBA

[@cauesx]

He looks like "Tranca Rua", an entity from a brazillian religion called "Umbanda"

[@Spamlynguist]

Neon Prime Infernus really had no sauce, god damn

[@kozumozu]

Cooked

[@Will0w394]

I feel like this was a massive overhaul of the entire game does anyone know exactly why they did it? I mean i know the new setting is a lot better but still

[@aashoe3]

Man i wish i was as cool as him.

[@bunnyfreakz]

Tech noir style could easily become skin.

[@kozumozu]

Maybe

[@mitzi2G-lb2xp]

change theme was great decison

[@kozumozu]

Definitely

[@zaddyxyborg9873]

I wish they did something in the middle.

[@kozumozu]

Truuee but Howw???

[@zaddyxyborg9873]

So specifically talking about the map. To me this rural town they made is too grey. Nothing stands out. This makes me look at the map alot. They could have at least choose a modern route or went with a map that has a more bio shock feel instead of infinite. The problem right now is landmarks I think. For me I look at the map alot to figure where I'm at and where I want to go while if the map had landmarks I could visually know exactly where I am. I got 44 hours on the game and it's become easier to know but sometimes I still need to look at the map for information but to see why I'm not where I wanted to be and I blame that on how much gray is on the map. What do you think?

[@zaddyxyborg9873]

​@kozumozu also this alpha skin will probably be available someday and it's an instant buy for me when it does way cool. (In the middle could have at least be keep the aim down sights animation) like what is cool on the alpha the walkers make less sense to me than in the alpha as well. Should be an organic monster or not be a spider golem idk probably just me.

[@thaariqbinaziz2821]

Pre alpha infernus looks so ugly bruh 😭 thank god they make him look jazzy and cool now

[@kozumozu]

Glow up

[@ImFantin]

From what I see the developers and designers have cooked twice. Do you guys think there will be different “maps”?

[@kozumozu]

Definitely

[@datfai1183]

deadlock characrter is probably one of the most pc one out there. and yet they are not making their character looks pretty but still interesting and beloved. thats what concord failed to do

[@kozumozu]

so much personality in the design

[@ponaskompetencija]

Gen Z Miles Morales Infernus

[@kozumozu]

imma do my own thing

[@capnfungi7875]

I mean deadlock is still in pre-alpha, neon prime was like pre-er alpha lmao

[@HienLeGia]

So Risk of Rain & OW oversaturated the market

[@Ceiling559]

It's insane how boring this game couldn've been

[@nukakolaa]

the pre-alpha version looks like if Riot game were to copy deadlock and wanna have a go at bringing a competition

[@kozumozu]

riots gonna have a copy very soon

[@Lemontage1337]

Thank god they kicked ouy sweet baby inc

[@amstherat]

okay man

[@TheOneTheyCallShandy]

God i hate Inferno aka discount Miles Morales.

[@kozumozu]

imma do my own thing

[@hatizero]

Pre-alpha looks like concord

[@MVPMTKING]

Concord take notes, too late😔

[@kozumozu]

Rip

[@rawke_s4eg]

From mamas boy to pimp

[@Keshav8575]

Thank God valve went with this style. I am tired and bored to see every game look like same futuristic shit with guns, animation, cloth design, even valo is like that.

[@kozumozu]

Too many futuristic games

[@GabrielFeaR]

W

[@RThauby]

the new look is new and different from everything else... yet somehow, i just hate looking at it. It's just so DRAB

[@assasinkar]

3:18 - 3:20 who is this?

[@EXFrost]

haze

[@assasinkar]

@EXFrost if u get this model or u know that model mod for deadlock write me name