Comparing Dynamix vs. Smart Shox vs. iQS (Shock Therapy LIVE 11/10/20)

[@JT_Funk]

Amazing donations. As a urologist, I will say it MATTERS when great men who are role models in the industry are open and honest about this. Thank you guys so much for supporting Movember!

[@adampetten1009]

Any updates on the 22 smart shox? Ordering an X3 max here soon

[@TrainWreck000]

I have a 2021 Polaris XP 1000 4, and have just upgraded my buggy: Front sway bar and link; rear sway bar and link; and new coils. That said, off of jumps the nose is still a bit heavy. The shocks…which are the Walkers…are set at 8. If I bump that to 12…will that help level it out. For everyone reading this and trying to decide if the upgrades mentioned above are worth it: The sway bars and links are night and day difference; the coils…still a massive increase in performance. For me, the quality and benefit to Shock Therapy equipment is so great I’m going to continue upgrading with their products: Frame supports, radius arms, and the Ride Improvement System.

[@ShockTherapyllc]

Aaron. Thank you for your feed back. Glad you love it. To your question. The stiffer you run the front and the softer you run the rear the more the nose will fly higher off of jumps. Also, try more throttle off the rump ramp. You can lower the front cross over ring 1/2 to 3/4” and raise the rear cross over ring the same. This will have the same affect as stiffening the adjusters when jumping. Last, a front limit strap will help too. It softens the Extention clunk that can pull the front down when it hits. Hope this helps. Enjoy!

[@____MC____]

Hey robby could use a chase for his presentations. Definitely interested in a speed shock iqs👍

[@masonmainpage4105]

This was a great video to help decide what version Maverick I want. It sounds like Smart Shox is just not worth the extra money, potential failures and lack of as much adjustability as the IQS system. Also happy to just find out you are in Phoenix.

[@davidbates3887]

@shocktherapy how about a new video using a smart shock with IQS vs a pro r dynamic, I assume you can not add IQS to these?

[@MoeStOnge-qz5dv]

So I don’t have a utv. Still on a four wheeler. My question is. Should I buy a car with the smart shocks or just buy a traditional car and add the Fox IQS to it?

[@GreysonDion530]

How does my IQS system compare to the 2022 dynamics with live Valving? Is the newer one better?

[@jealness]

So what your saying is wait till October November to buy a new Turbo S because dealers are going to be giving them away to make room for the new 72" XP Pro

[@andrew140672]

Maybe I've just missed it, but why don't you guys build your full own in-house shock with all the work you guys do to other shocks? I mean I get the reason to focus on the big OE shocks because that's what the majority have...... or maybe I missed it and you guys do build your own for public sale..... currently going to be doing a 64 to 72 swap on my x3 and looking for shocks, new set of fox are 3500 give or take then I'd like to send them to you guys after that cost I'm in them almost as a much as say a set of kings or elka stage 5. Just wondering if you guys built something that kinda cut the middle man out take make a bit more affordable price! Super happy with what your guys stuff did for my current QS3 shocks.

[@KTMcaptain]

What we all want to know is how well does the 3.25” speed internal bypasses perform?

[@ShockTherapyllc]

I can’t tell you yet. Working on that now.

[@shonsweet2781]

Ever think about flashing the ecu for:the shocks? With a quick alteration an upload,it wouldn’t be any different the flashing for fueling and timing for the motor.

[@ShockTherapyllc]

Already on it👍

[@jakeruiz5062]

Iam buying a new 2022 I have a 2020 turbo rr 72 right now is it worth it to get the smart shox model or just the regular xrs turbo rr 72 model and have you guys build them up. Thanks so much. Mostly ride so cal deserts and Glamis dunes.

[@Clearbrowser]

They are going to say non smart shox and to go with there iqs. I had a x3 max non smart but am upgrading To the 2022 model with 32s and 200hp with smart shox. Thankfully I never rolled it but I think the smart shox will help reduce body roll and the likelihood of rolling. Can am needs to add a screen like the dynamix has.

[@vkdirector3087]

Thanks for another great video I have a polaris pro ultimate here in Australia We will be doing the finke What upgrades would you recommend for the dynamics Springs, Revalve, main Shaft seals, Seal housing?? Thanks guys

[@ShockTherapyllc]

All of the above. The red sand whoops will melt stock shaft seals so you need the Viton upgrade there. Springs and internals will make it amazing in that race.

[@TrainWreck000]

Is there a way to get High Speed, Low Speed, and Rebound on Walker original shocks (understanding that after the Ride Improvement System and new coils...there is very little that is left of the Walker Shocks)?

[@MassiveOverkill]

Hi, I have the new Yamaha Wolverine RMAX4 LE with FOX iQS and love it. I'm getting a lot of questions about being able to adjust the front and rear shock dampening separately. Will this be a future feature of iQS or is there any way for current users to manually implement this now?

[@ShockTherapyllc]

We are almost done with this option on our IQs. But I am not sure if it will work on you system like ours. We would need to see yours to know for sure

[@davidcastillo3115]

With the new KRX 1000es out, how does the KRX "active" suspension system compare to these three?

[@B86432]

Yes fox smart shocks the middle Honda has them now 2

[@Nate-Aims]

Should I wait right l now for the 72in pro xp or just go ahead and do a turbo S dynamics?

[@ShockTherapyllc]

Wait for the pro

[@TrainWreck000]

As to upgrading cost for the Dynamix shocks...if someone was going to buy a crashed car....depending on what was damaged...and hypothetically swap out multiple resources...such as the shocks and 181 HP motor to an original 4 seat RZR...would that make the idea more affordable.

[@ShockTherapyllc]

No. Any Dynamix will be a bitch to swap. Multiple wire looms, ecus and sensors cause a lot of fabrication issues. Get it wrong abd your chasing electrical gremlins that prevent the shocks from working. Just what I’ve seen from others trying it

[@pecanpie100]

Justin: what upgrades would you recommend for a brand spankin' new totally stock 2021 RZR Turbo S 4-seater with Dynamix (Fox) shocks.........spring kit? valving? sway bar links? teflon lined rod ends? sway bar frame supports? I'm in Lake Havasu City AZ and I ride desert trails and washes moderately aggressively for fun. I want my ride to be plush and also very dependable. Thanks for any input you are willing to provide, good sir!

[@ShockTherapyllc]

I would say spring and shock work first. Get the ride quality your looking for. Then frame supports and sway bar links. Front limit straps are a must to stop noise and save the shocks. After that just follow my normal suggestions. Safety first. Belts, seats possible cage. The rest of the car is built quite well and should put up with Havasu just fine. Good luck

[@pecanpie100]

@@ShockTherapyllc Very cool! Thank you! ST rocks! I will be contacting you guys within the next few months for those upgrades.

[@pecanpie100]

How about the teflon lined rod ends?

[@johnlocket8966]

Ok so which one is the best?

[@henkepevemede5306]

Love ur videos! Cant wait til i can test/buy a smartshox canam🤩😎

[@markmanning6773]

Campfire talk claims one has to bring one’s car in to get IQS? I was under the impression that one could just send one’s shocks in and get springs, valving and IQS retrofit.

[@ShockTherapyllc]

You are correct. Shocks only

[@markmanning6773]

I will be doing this sooner than later hopefully. What’s the rough cost of the entire service

[@cjbrockman7007]

How does the Kawasaki Kecs system compare to these 3 ? Similar to the Polaris system ?

[@theshockar]

Where does the Honda Talon Live Valve sit? Should be the same as Dynamix but I’d like your opinion.

[@ShockTherapyllc]

Sorry I should have mentioned them. They are basically the same as the dynamic but technically they are smarter in some ways. Unfortunately they don’t perform like it. Smarter or not the Dynamix system rides better by far than the Honda does.

[@scout473]

I I have the shock therapy springs and I'm sending my shocks in to do a rebuild and revalve in June, the one thing I'm worried is the ECM for the shocks not being upgraded. I have a 2018 dynamics which is the first year of the system and what I've read and been told is the newer software helps a ton with the shocks riding better. Could anyone elaborate on this ? Anyway I could update the software as well ?

[@ShockTherapyllc]

The only place that can flash the ECU is the dealer at this time. I am not aware of this being done to upgrade it to the newer year software but I don't see why not. I would ask one and see. That being said, I have not seen a large improvement in the function of the software. The shocks, internally are different between the years and this difference is mostly what feels better comparing the two. These things all change with our internal work so no matter which year you have, they will ride the same amount of awesome when we are done.

[@billwyko2392]

So I've got your springs on the way compensating for all the mods on my car. If I wanted to have you do my internals on my smart shox, will these springs still be correct for the shocks?

[@ShockTherapyllc]

Yes sir!👍

[@billwyko2392]

@@ShockTherapyllc Thanks, they go on this week.

[@MrLundefaret]

Is it anything in the rumours that Polaris will come out with a big bore engine (1.600 ccm?)

[@ShockTherapyllc]

Yes. January

[@jboutdoors7019]

Just got a new RZR pro xp ultimate, anything new with the 2022.5 dynamix?

[@ShockTherapyllc]

Way better and faster programming. 👍🏼👌

[@jboutdoors7019]

@@ShockTherapyllc awesome! I’ve read that the tender springs are also improved? I have two tenders on the rear.

[@ShockTherapyllc]

@@jboutdoors7019 they might be a better spring rate but we have seen the same sagging as before. 👌

[@jboutdoors7019]

@@ShockTherapyllc ok thanks!

[@josephoverstreet5584]

Are yall still working on the iqs for the walker evans? I’m not seeing it on your site

[@ShockTherapyllc]

FOX only for iQS

[@josephoverstreet5584]

@@ShockTherapyllc oh I thought in the video you said it was something yall were working on and would be available in a few months. Did you not say that?

[@josephoverstreet5584]

@@ShockTherapyllc at around the 7 minute 11 second mark you say don’t ask when we are going to have it for the walkers because it’ll be at least a few months..is this still coming?

[@ShockTherapyllc]

@@josephoverstreet5584 we are doing the walker version. Issue with walker.

[@doc559]

🏆🏆🏆👍🙏 Thank you for sharing

[@GERONIMO326]

I've heard from everyone the Live Valve on the Talon's is the same thing as the Dynamix? Just as comfortable and capable. Any truth?

[@ShockTherapyllc]

It is similar but the Honda is a ver stiff riding car even with Dynamix

[@GERONIMO326]

@@ShockTherapyllc I have a friend who says it is night and day better on the live valve 🤷‍♂️

[@ShockTherapyllc]

@@GERONIMO326 if you are comparing Honda with out and Honda with live valve then it is much better. But if your comparing Honda with live valve and any Polaris with live valve the the Honda is brutally stiff compared to the Polaris

[@GERONIMO326]

@@ShockTherapyllc in your honest opinion, what is the smoothest riding sport utv 2 seater on the market from factory?

[@ShockTherapyllc]

@@GERONIMO326 the Wildcat XX is the smoothest. Problem is who knows what going to happen to it’s production Second is the Kawasaki KRX Third is a tie with the Polaris Turbo S Dynamix and the XP pro Dynamix. But both of those need a tire and tools in the bed to soften up the rear to match the plush factor of the front.

[@DUNEATV]

Soooo your saying the Yamaha YXZ is awesome. Ok, got it! Thx!

[@TrainWreck000]

I live in Red Rock, AZ...about 50 minutes from the Phoenix Airport...right off I-10. I'm a disabled combat vet and have no resources to get my buggy from here to your shop...for the Ride Improvement System. Do you offer pick-up and deliver?

[@Tklatti01]

Lets a go!🕹

[@frankvaldez9700]

Sounds like the dynamix is the best

[@TrainWreck000]

This is like the Man Show with horse power requirements.

[@patfain1946]

Where is your shop located , I’m in SD

[@ShockTherapyllc]

Phoenix

[@heily-3806]

Can you tell me if a TMW shock tower brace will work on a smart shox x3

[@ShockTherapyllc]

Yes it works. There is no change that will affect that.

[@heily-3806]

@@ShockTherapyllc not true! Some trimming is required trust me!

[@dellparker7686]

So Can Am Maverick X3 XRC RR Or XRS RR with smartshox?

[@ShockTherapyllc]

RR w smart shox

[@dellparker7686]

@@ShockTherapyllc Smartshox aren’t an option on an XRC correct?

[@ShockTherapyllc]

@@dellparker7686 not yet. Maybe later

[@dellparker7686]

@@ShockTherapyllc Im mainly riding in the Ozark mountains XRC or XRS and why please? Currently running an XDS

[@patbramble8958]

Can you move the Smart Shox switch to the steering wheel?

[@ShockTherapyllc]

Yes you can but it is not that easy

[@patbramble8958]

@@ShockTherapyllc Let's talk! Can I contact you about it?

[@patbramble8958]

Who do I talk to?

[@ShockTherapyllc]

@@patbramble8958 Sorry Pat. we don't do that and are not set up to wire here. I would contact your favorite wire guy near you. Hopefully they have race car or at least UTV experience.

[@MrLundefaret]

Will you get a Speed UTV?

[@ShockTherapyllc]

Yes

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