Comparing Star Wars Outlaws VS Jedi Survivor

[@ZekeAxel]

I am shocked that the Jedi game has cooler blaster customization than the scoundrel game.

[@SoulDeSol]

This is one of the most obvious points of failure for Outlaws to me. If anything, Kay not having force powers meant the devs should have put extra focus into her gun customization and gameplay loop to make them feel satisfying. When the primary aspect of your gameplay loop and the interactivity of said loop is accomplished better by a different game that wasn't even focusing on that aspect of its gameplay... you really ought to take a step back and reevaluate your approach.

[@ZekeAxel]

@@SoulDeSol My guess is that they were REALLY pressed for time. And yeah, Ubisoft.

[@bbbazzinga]

Because outlaws is centered around stealth, not combat with the blaster, I was very disappointed when I found out about this.

[@aamirrazak3467]

True considering the protagonist in outlaws has no force power or lightsaber. More blaster customization seems like a big miss imo

[@RedAlpha101]

Yeah they only had 4 years, which isnt great for a AAA title​ @ZekeAxel

[@GunSwordGaming]

so many hating on EA when we should be crediting RESPAWN, an actual talented studio, for making the game. Beat Jedi Survivor recently, really loved it. It's really cool with mods too, that can change the voice and face.

[@burrglar6734]

Respawn is great,made Titanfall, arguably one of the best FPS fames ever, and the Jedi series which are some of the best star wars games one can experience. And this one might be controversial, but I do think Apex is better than its competitors in the battle royale genre

[@wizarian]

Respawn made the best SW games around, the problem is that Survivor was rushed, good gameplay but with a worse story, compared to Fallen Order and released full of bugs.

[@beepboop8184]

What we should really sh`t all over on - is RESPAWN. Enemy respawn. That game mechanics should go suck my ass.

[@TurdF3rguson]

@@burrglar6734 I've been on an unintentional Respawn marathon lately. I actually played Outlaws first (months ago), but finally got around to playing Fallen Order and Survivor for the first time and loved them. (Outlaws was just kinda mediocre.). I played the Titanfall 2 campaign for the first time just recently and was blown away by how awesome it is even 8-9 years later.

[@Kincan]

The best SW games were jedi academy and outcast, they had the best lightsaber physics being old games. I love jedi fallen order and survivor but this last one is still full of bugs and awful optimization making it unplayable for many. When studios rushes games they doesnt make a good work, we getting used to it and thats is bad.

[@Nekros-t9e]

Battle of the awful publishers: somehow EA wins in making the better game.

[@eternalsummer8409]

Tbf ea has been “helping” make/publish Star Wars games for a few decades, they have the feel down, and for once it wasn’t ruined by their greed

[@Nekros-t9e]

@@eternalsummer8409 the actual developers are both pretty good so it was very much a publisher meddling and rushing that caused Outlaws to come out horribly. The worst thing to come about of this always online/live service games era, is the terrible mentality of “who cares if the release sucks we can fix it later.”

[@kamilnowak5264]

That respawn entertainment that do the good work. Dont you forget that

[@okoproroka1561]

EA wins just Battle of the Killing next small studios

[@bbbazzinga]

Well, surprisingly enough, I believe the star wars jedi games to be the best EA has produced in quite some time.

[@GMTabakova]

From personal experience after playing both, I was more invested in Cals story than Kays. Jedi survivor was not "perfect" but it was fun and engaging enough to play through to the end. Outlaws got boring pretty fast for me and made me wish I was playing a better stealth type game. I ended up refunding Outlaws and will most likely pick it up again when it is dirt cheap.

[@clark1938]

It's 30 bucks on CDKeys rn. When black friday comes around it'll prolly drop a good bit more. Imma pick it up then, I think I'll enjoy it bc i just rlly enjoy freeroam games. Even if the story isn't great, I love the exploration!

[@Gitaxianjack]

If you’re looking for a good stealth title I recommend Aragami or Aragami 2 not triple a titles but solid regardless. As for outlaws vs survivor I was much more interested in survivors story it spoke to me it didn’t need to hang on nostalgia it could stand on its own two feet and I really liked the gameplay and the story outlaws on the other hand was generic Ubisoft slop that I have played a dozen times in different games the thing is if you don’t make the gameplay good then I’m not going to play it

[@akmal94ibrahim]

If it's boring, why even bother buying it at all?

[@j134679]

@@akmal94ibrahim because it's still worth several hours of gameplay. Sane people think of game pricing like how movie tickets cost these days. At the end of the day there is a price point where it's a good deal to people who want to spend some time on entertainment. Most games are cheap anyway if you compare it to the rest of the entertainment industry. A 'cheap' movie ticket is like 10 dollars for about 2hrs of film. Games provide a much longer time per dollar spent.

[@rockymontanagarciamane]

@@j134679if i want some entertainment ill just hop back on dragons dogma 2 i havent beat it yet hell evem gta 5 in a public sessions preferable

[@Farmeryeti]

It genuinely never occurred to me that we might have a level set inside the Former Jedi Temple on Coruscant in Jedi Survivor when I booted up the game and saw it on the main menu, but damn that would have been super cool.

[@zachclawges6932]

Well, it'd be a pretty dangerous place for Cal to be considering after Order 66, Palpatine converted the Jedi Temple into his own personal Imperial Palace

[@equaltoreality8028]

i remember Pre Disney the Jedi temple could be visited in the 'Force unleashed' as it was abandoned.

[@kirank287]

I love Survivor so much

[@BoxforInters]

Fallen Order and Survivor were seriously good. I really like Cal Kestis as the protagonist. Can't wait for the third part.

[@mindfulness5475]

Me too!

[@ТирионЛаннистер-п4к]

same here,great games

[@user-dr9vn5vk5o]

same, i finished it 3 times

[@dynastes4938]

Biggest difference: Survivor is a good game xD

[@Officialcxnnamonroll]

Real😭

[@s.w.4409]

It's an okay game, not that good tbh

[@odrpy793]

​@@s.w.4409Game was definitely very good but opinions are subjective ig

[@s.w.4409]

@@odrpy793 Movement and combat felt floaty, climbing segments were extremely easy and boring, story was predictable and the main character unlikable. Performance on PC was horrendous at launch and buggy.

[@marcelUM1766]

Still don't understand why people dislike Outlaws. I love it. Kinda feels like a mix out of Uncharted and Watch Dogs...

[@bilidedebili1006]

There is no comparison. Its like comparing mafia 1 or 2 with mafia 3. Respawn entertainment did a stellar job on both Jedi games

[@haengeltheknight1212]

At least the Mafia games are solid, kinda like Dark Souls 2 being the worst, yet being better than most games. Outlaw is just an terrible game.

[@Kopjekoffie980]

@@haengeltheknight1212 Outlaws is just like Halo not a bad game just a lot of hate

[@haengeltheknight1212]

@Kopjekoffie980 it doesn’t have a much arguments on why it’s good. Characters, Story, Gameplay, Open World? All of these were criticized a lot when it came out, at least there is some saving in Halo games like multiplayer, characters and soundtrack.

[@musicmashup9597]

Yeah only Mafia 3 is better than first ones lol

[@Silvereyes777]

It’s like comparing Mass Effect 2 to Mass Effect Andromeda

[@Fennie420]

That spamel clip will never get old lol.

[@petar4onachev]

Survivor has my favorite type of open world “linear story driven” it has a metroid feel where you need certain skills to aquire and return to the same place to unlock more areas.

[@elias.t]

The Jedi games are basically the 3D metroidvanias people like to describe the original Dark Souls as.

[@theadamabrams]

To me it feels like _Survivor_ is a Metroidvania at heart with some open world elements added to that (namely rumors and bounties), whereas _Outlaws_ is an open world game with some Metroidvania elements (like needing speeder upgrades to just to certain areas or blaster upgrades to blast rocks to reach certain areas).

[@baki484]

Survivor's open planets like Koboh and Jedha kind of ruin the experience for me honestly. Doesn't help that maps are peppered with stupid collectables to stretch out the game making the experience tedious something I hate about the Ubisoft open world games I prefer the JFO in that regard. The only thing I liked in survivor on the side quest side of things in the High republic chambers. Collecting seeds, priorite, bounties, force tears, scrolls and data discs really rubbed me the wrong way. Then you have those stupid scavengers droids running around.

[@bbbazzinga]

Well there are 2 main differences in my opinion: 1. Survivor does a better job at the main game mechanic. It's combat feels well implemented, entertaining and it keeps getting more interesting as the game progresses while the stealth in outlaws is a bit broken and gets to be ridiculous at times. 2. The story in survivor is way more interesting in my opinion, it doesn't rely on cameos to keep you hooked and the side characters are interesting.

[@awilywolf]

Agreed. I actually had to force my way through Survivor at the end. Just felt super linear and platform-heavy, that I got bored of it, even with the combat. It feels bleaker and likely more in line with Star Wars canon, but I just felt disconnected after 15-20 hours. Outlaws, after PS5 patch 1.005.000, is more fun. I like the atmosphere, the sneak arounds, the broader gameplay styles at play. Hated Survivor's navigation and fast travel system!

[@heseits5157]

​@@awilywolf you said "agreed" after disagreeing with everything the top comment said?

[@RohanDurey]

1:21 “mini toothless w dreads” got me rollin 😂😂

[@MasterLu2]

True story: I loved Jedi Survivor so much, that I have a total of 359 hours of gameplay.

[@yoavmor9002]

Damn that's crazy. Took me about 60 hours to 100%, with 210 hours total. You must have 100%ed the game thrice over already at least

[@MasterLu2]

@@yoavmor9002 well I played the game 3 times (knight, master, and grandmaster) so that’s why I have a lot of hours.

[@kirank287]

Same I love Survivor so much. Currently at 250 hours 🙏

[@juangabrielcabardo21]

i have 300 hours, i’ve done the main story around 4 times and 100% the game once. i love the game, don’t get the hate for it

[@Bush_Striker_of_Towers]

A lot of gamers, especially PC players don’t like it when a game releases in a poor state. Unfortunately the initial Steam release was pretty much unplayable which left a sour taste in people’s mouth, that is just now starting to recover.

[@haniffat]

I just beat Jedi Survivor. I need a third one. Such an amazing game.

[@AlaiasAlias]

Only ubi can makes EA look good 😂

[@nbrown5907]

E.A. did not make Survivor, Respawn entertainment did. E.A. was the publisher.

[@lucaskp16]

@@nbrown5907 a publisher can very much ruin a game and EA was literally the top 1 most hated company for years. so the fact the didn't fuck it up is impressive

[@hunterdillman3678]

Hilarious

[@OilyMachine]

​@@lucaskp16they did fuck it up by releasing it early then crashes all the time until they fixed the bugs but it is much better than outlaws

[@gizzywoo2709]

@@OilyMachine that wasnt ea that was respawns decision tho

[@raoulduke7844]

Kay very much fits into the “scavenger” category

[@veganpower7825]

Truly fitting of being a women.

[@vivas555]

Kinda makes me wanna play Jedi Survivornow

[@dominiquehenderson4740]

2:50 says she's not a jedi. that was clearly a force punch

[@n0body550]

So what you’re saying is anyone that is force sensitive (which is everyone in the SW universe) is a jefi?

[@yozora1047]

@@n0body550 take a joke man

[@n0body550]

@@yozora1047 Where would i put it?

[@Hogan231]

Do a video of the Batman Arkham Games!

[@QuarterCal]

Yes please

[@Terminal_Apotos]

All are GOATed

[@jordcoh7722]

I love how both cal and Kay basically have the same outfits

[@lazypaladin]

So its sounds like Jedi Games set a bar on what Star Wars games can look, do, tell and achieve. And Outlaws decided, *_lets do none of that, lets make an Ubisoft game!_* No wonder they're getting lynched.

[@SoraMotto]

I definitely like the gameplay and story for Jedi Survivor better but the locations and exploration aspect is better in Outlaws. Koboh serves well as a good planet to explore but Outlaws being centered around actual towns and settlements means there's lots more to look at and many more people to interact with. I don't necessarily want this in the Jedi games but it does make Jedi feel a bit more of a solitary experience as a consequence.

[@psychodoxie6987]

I think it's because Survivor is supposed to feel more like dark souls and it wouldn't make sense for Cal to walk around big cities with alot of Imperials

[@kingt0295]

Well to be fair Cal is a Jedi and they’re kill on site. He only peaks into the most populated areas like the inner rim planet of coruscant when he was leading a big terrorist mission for saw guerra

[@j134679]

yep this is why I played outlaws longer than the two games with Cal. The overall vibe with his game world is so solitary..

[@jedimastersmj]

Comparing? Easy One I’ll play again Another one I’ll never play 🌝

[@MattPapp]

Star wars outlaws is an outstanding experience... I want to stand out of the window of the 22nd floor because of it

[@dynastes4938]

@@MattPapp Better throw the game out the window :D

[@zwippie92]

Why though? Why never play Outlaw?

[@minicle426]

Really. What was wrong with Survivor? :P

[@marcelUM1766]

What's wrong with Outlaws?

[@RodaMoonknight]

Nyx is a Axolotl, which Toothless is based off of

[@symbolguy3609]

Don’t forget Mudkip. Nix is Space-Mudkip.

[@elias.t]

@@symbolguy3609 Mudkip is also based off an axolotl. It's that or a mudskipper.

[@OmegaEnvych]

I personally prefer old places being relegated to cameos or places that we get different point of view of. New look at something familiar - so we still have a connection but even in this case Jedi Survivor feels as being better game simply by the fact that developers definitely tried to make a good game first. Also I find Kal being a decently made character - he has his low points but written in more believable manner as a character for space adventure.

[@booki7057]

i think they're both endlessly fun, i can see myself revisiting outlaws as much as i do survivor/fallen order

[@Ash-Winchester]

Space toilets are essential for any star wars game.

[@Bluberry31]

I personally don't think Outlaws is that bad... it's just not as impactful or fun as the Jedi games... but that was always going to be the case cause using a lightsaber is deeper then using a blaster from a gameplay perspective

[@TurdF3rguson]

Agreed. I played Outlaws first, then finally played both Jedi games back to back recently. Outlaws either needed to do something much deeper with the stealth sandbox, or find a way to not lean into it so much. The fact that I could just go fight enemies and enjoy it in the Jedi games meant I was usually a lot more eager to explore. Despite having bigger and sometimes more detailed spaces in SWO, exploration too often meant playing the sneak-and-wait game for too long, only to get caught and deal with the subpar shooting mechanics.

[@JuanchoGamex]

2:49 at that point Kay might as well mail that punch since it took the Imperial 5 business days to react to it

[@jimmydcriket4086]

Everything you say about Outlaws is either bad or a backhanded compliment, it really doesn't feel like you're giving it enough credit

[@jlev1028]

Ubisoft never fails to be compatable to Bethesda with how low effort they make their games feel. If EA, one of the greediest entertainment companies in the world, makes a better Star Wars game with little monetization and an engaging story, that's a problem.

[@bulborb1235]

What happened, Ubisoft? You used to be cool. (And funny [rabbids])

[@n0body550]

EA didnt make jedi survivor Jesus fucking christ why do you ignorant fuck need to keep being told that

[@Maddog-xc2zv]

EA was the publisher. Respawn did most of the heavy lifting, thank god, as developers.

[@triadwarfare]

​@@Maddog-xc2zvSadly Jedi Survivor is horribly optimized. My 3070 struggle to run and stream the game while GOW Ragnarok works just fine. I don't think it has ever been fixed but I guess the solution is just not stream it since it competes with GPU resources. Also, Respawn made Titanfall and Apex Legends using a forked version of the Source engine. However, making that engine at its core caused a lot of issues with server, cheating, and sound that may require a complete overhaul.

[@Maddog-xc2zv]

@@triadwarfare Yeah, I do agree with you. But Respawn was highly pressured by EA to deliver no matter how. Tell me, did you have any problems with a well schedueled game as Fallen Order was? I'm sure you didn't. Cheers and happy 2025

[@jameskershaw4452]

Wow just shows how unpopular SW: Outlaws is I didn't even know Darth Vader was in the game. 😂 I know so many people who love JFO and JS and I have replayed those games 3 times each they just so well written and the gameplay is great, graphics could be better though.

[@zachclawges6932]

The biggest sin Outlaws had was make a game about a woman and market it to incels. The game is fun, it's not revolutionary, but people have been over critical from the announcement because they were mad about a woman being the main character. Before we knew literally anything else about the game, they were boycotting it. They over exaggerate it's flaws and undersell it's successes because they WANT the game to fail

[@Soloyri]

​@@zachclawges6932 The problem outlaws has is how terrible the gameplay is. The "stealth" they have is pretty bad for a game that came out in 2024, you can beat any stealth mission by just spamming whistle after all it only attracts one enemy at a time to you and you can then down them and repeat since they won't react even if they see a dead body. There is also the loadout, you would think a game about being a scoundrel and using stealth mechanics would offer you multiple gadgets and weapons to use yet there is barely anything you can modify. Lastly nobody is angry about making a game about a woman as the main character, the problem people have is how boring of a story they gave her almost any other npc somehow seem more interesting than her due to how badly her story was written. If you want to defend a game you are welcome to do so but atleast try to understand the reasons as to why people dislike it instead of inventing an argument. Edit: Yes there are some people that disliked the game because Kay is the main character but portraying anyone who dislike this game as being those type of people is really telling about you.

[@Highlander77]

​@@SoloyriI don't know if they've maybe improved some things since whenever you played Outlaws, but what you're saying here really isn't true. I just finished the game, and while there are certainly elements of the stealth that are unrealistic (as is the case for basically all stealth in games), you can't just whistle over enemies and take them down with impunity. If you're within the field of vision of other enemies when you pop up from the grass to do a stealth takedown, they WILL see you. And they definitely do react to finding a body, they go into high alert and start looking around. And the person you're responding to is correct. The hate bandwagon for Outlaws started the moment they first showed the game, before hardly any details were known. You're never going to convince me that it would have had the same reaction if it was the exact same game but you had a male main character.

[@D0MiN0ChAn]

@@Highlander77 I'd even go a bit farther than that and say Outlaws could potentially have piqued the interest of certain individuals if Kay "looked hot enough". Same story with Aloy in Horizon or, more recently, Ciri in Witcher 4. As soon as these leads are not overly sexualized and look like normal, every day women, those cave-dwellers cry wolf 🥲

[@albertlucas4780]

@@D0MiN0ChAnlet’s go even deeper, if it was a white male character it would’ve been anticipated and praised, like assassins creed shadows…… it’s looks amazing but from the start the COLOR of the protagonist instantly became a problem when I’m 1000% positive if he’d been a white male no one would have said a word about “Japanese culture” but it’s the world we live in, what a shame.

[@GulpMeUp]

Wow just found out about these games. Super excited to play one day. I loved playing Star Wars games when I was younger

[@juddleho]

Just play Survivor trust me

[@zeropen0719]

Biggest problem with Jedi Survivor is that is published by EA and EA forced the only studio under their name that makes great games "Respawn" after 3 years of development which halted on Covid times to release it earlier becuase they were to greedy.

[@Geekomorph]

Force unleashed: hold my beer

[@gloriajean8024]

Jedi: Survivor is a great game, so underrated. Ranked in my top 3 favorite games of all time.

[@darkoale3299]

I just got Survivor. What are you two top fav games?

[@Boyer316]

Why is there a speeder bike on top of a troop transport?

[@xlumyn]

glad to see an analysis without all those political drama. The primary reason I didn't buy Outlaws is simply because the main character doesn't use a lightsaber, shooting a pistol feels incredibly boring in a universe filled with amazing technology and magic powers.

[@LC-cq5um]

So you think Han Solo is boring?

[@D0MiN0ChAn]

I found it a welcome change, I hate how everyone is made or expected to be force sensitive one way or the other.

[@fangfactory1]

Comparing kays gun upgrades to Kals skill tree seems unfair...when Kay also has an ability tree. I honestly liked Kays skill system better due to the thematics: you find mentors to unlock new skill paths, and then perform mini tasks to help learn said skill. Thematically it's more interesting then dumping skill points into random trees and just learning skills like Kal. Also, in terms of supporting characters, survivor is a sequel...so pretty much all of those characters other then Bode had the benefit of a whole nother game to be built up. Only Bode is actually new to Survivor, and he was predictable as hell.

[@chasenicotre8853]

Please don’t confuse people, nothing in Kay’s games is from the High Republic era of Star Wars. The cruiser is a Prequel Trilogy Republic Cruiser

[@planescaped]

The similarities between the two are way too similar for it to be a coincidence. Something tells me there's some Disney mandates going on.

[@strikesouthtrap]

In survivor you can play in courassont as an open world but you can do that in coboh which is amazing

[@Almost_Aussie]

The lip animation of this videos narrator is more believable than Outlaws

[@baldsquirrel]

I needed this video, thanks

[@christophersymes7511]

Did you do a video comparing Star Wars Battlefront and Star Wars Battlefront 2?

[@treefiddytwoo]

i enjoyed both games thoroughly for different reasons. can't go wrong grabbing a copy of either, especially since they both frequently go on sale..

[@TurdF3rguson]

I got Fallen Order and Survivor for a TOTAL of $20 back in December during a PS store sale. Had a blast with both.

[@Mankey619]

Jedi Survivor is way more better than Outlaws. Have you seen those embarrassing stealth takedowns and melee combats in Outlaws.

[@coreymckee4844]

"More better". Dude learn proper English. Its "way better". 🙄

[@Octo2]

first off i agreed but then im mad bc both are different they arent even close one is about a jedi making a name for himself trying to survive one is about a none force user outlaw trying to live and make money to survive one has stelth one doesent

[@LukeSparrow221]

​@@coreymckee4844 no need to be dick about it

[@marcelUM1766]

​@@Octo2I don't care as long as one of these games has understandable grammar.

[@Lontokka]

@@coreymckee4844 No, it's 'betterer'.

[@sageumbra]

Comparing Beef Wellington to whatever is currently under your fridge

[@thekrimsontower]

11:00 It would be difficult to set a canon level in the Jedi Temple during the Imperial era because, although we haven't actually seen it yet outside of the comics, it has canonically been converted into Palpatine's palace and home during his reign unlike in The Force Unleashed where it was simply left abandoned. It would have to be a purely stealth infiltration level, maybe the Star Wars version of Operation Valkyrie with a failed assassination attempt? Otherwise, unless they pulled something as badly written as Vader Immortal, we'd either have to be playing as an Imperial with access (Thrawn game anyone?) or it would have to end without us getting out alive. That said, I love Star Wars Infinities and would be down for a "What if?" scenario.

[@devinb2018]

One thing that I felt was similar about both games: while both had a variety of planets, it only felt like each game had a couple with real exploration and the rest were small linear path locations. I enjoyed outlaws, but was definitely disappointed by it. However, survivor blew my expectations away and provided one of the best game experiences I’ve ever had. I also think the addition of the purity perks in survivor is the best thing done in modern Star Wars gaming. I’m not necessarily expecting a sequel to outlaws, but if one does happen I hope the leap between outlaws and its sequel in quality is similar to the leap between fallen order and survivor.

[@Blackout201_]

You got one thing wrong. Survivor is just a triple A game while the masterpiece that is Outlaws is a quadruple A game

[@Trindal]

Nix can detonate grenades on enemy targets waste. It’s actually kinda fun. I just wish you could actually do more quests with ND assisting.

[@JMPants]

"But we ticked all the boxes"

[@PhantomArcadia]

I like Respawn Entertainment!

[@leopoldmaximus145]

I would like to see you do videos on the Batman Arkham and god of war games in the future please. I never played them and I think you have a great channel to review them on if you want

[@RealTommyBeaulieu]

I recently played both and they are both very good. There was some things Outlaws could have done better but I still love it.

[@gargamel314]

I started Outlaws. Big ol waste of money for me. I'm only prob around 15% through but I can't bring myself to continue. Survivor, on the other hand, I've played it over and over, I love it.

[@kirank287]

Same on my second play on Survivor. Still fun

[@Kimkong2]

I've no idea how it would work, but i've always thought UBI should consider outsourcing or partnering with a different Gaming studio to handle gameplay mechanics and they can just focus on their strong suit, which is making spectaticular open world settings and narratives. When it comes to gameplay mechanics and writing though, they have some of the most mundane implementations of what are rather great ideas on paper. I mean imagine if survivor had the open world setting and exploration of outlaws!

[@matthewcs490]

I like both games so much! The Jedi games are two of the greatest star wars games ever. And Star Wars Outlaws is a very solid Star Wars scoundrel game that is a great time!

[@doomrage2012]

A way better 😮, while outlaws 🙃

[@matthewcs490]

@@doomrage2012 outlaws 😃 Jedi 😄

[@AkiDave]

Jedi’s survivin’ (Great video!)

[@flo9894]

Jedi Survivor couldn't have make a "realistic" Coruscant due to PS4 limitation hardware. That what the devs of Battlefront 2 said.

[@okoproroka1561]

It's just skybox

[@flo9894]

@@okoproroka1561 If you played Battlefront 1 Cloud City, you know it is an actual recreation of the map and not just skyboxes

[@crestofhonor2349]

Jedi Survivor only hit PS4 this last month. It was never intended for the PS4. Also this game was developed by Respawn not Dice. Dice developed the Battlefront games and the reason why they said it wasn't possible is because both Battlefront 1 and Battlefront 2 aim for 60fps on the PS4 and Xbox One

[@flo9894]

@@crestofhonor2349 yeah… I was talking about Jedi Survivor, they are not DICE but if they want to make Coruscant as accurate as the movie, they would have the same issues. Outlaws is just a peace of sh*. For Battlefront 2 the devs scan the entire cities and environnement models from the movies

[@crestofhonor2349]

@@flo9894 Survivor fully has the capacity to depict Coruscant as it was in the movies. Hardware isn't an issue with depicting as it just would take too much time. Video games just stream in the data so it wouldn't be a problem. Battlefront 1 and 2 only scan objects as they used photogrammetry. It's just a method of making sure you can get all the proper material properties of an object in the game. You'd be surprised how many games used photogrammetry today, they just don't talk about it. Battlefront 1 only made a big deal about it because it was new back in 2015 as things like PBR(Physically Based Rendering) was a new thing in that era. Scanning real world objects was done to make the world feel more realistic and to sell the look of star wars to the player

[@Luyo20]

Outlaws had a massive update now its great. I'm loving it

[@MattyRlufc]

Meh, I enjoyed Outlaws. There's things I wish they did different; weapons / armour options, different speeders, a different starship... But the core concept of exploration and world building is great

[@veganpower7825]

It's a brainless game. Repetitive and outdated with ps1 level of design. It's like a game for kids that requires no skill

[@MattyRlufc]

@@veganpower7825 you clearly didn't have a PS1.

[@CarterElkins]

@@MattyRlufclol, my thoughts exactly. Some of the best games I’ve ever played were on PS1.

[@planescaped]

I mean, we were all 14 once and took joy in much simpler things. It's okay. Heck, some people are entertained by the figurative key jangling of yearly Madden slop. So you could do worse.

[@MattyRlufc]

@@planescaped and yet Space Marine II is being hailed as a masterpiece when the entire gameplay loop is "parry when circle goes blue, dodge when circle goes red". Come on.

[@Pig_Cat-2020]

I love nix

[@KIZZZZPlays]

BD1 outclasses a fluffy rat hands down

[@zaheersarang6466]

Outlaws is the type of game I'll only play if I get it for free

[@8608films]

Honestly i enjoyed them both im still doing all the side quest in outlaws but its hard to decide which is better because one you are a jedi and one you are scoundrel and both do a good job making the lead characters fun and exciting but survivor does have a better character development but its a tie for me i love them both

[@Tnino_xt]

Survivor is better

[@KSzkodaGames]

I was expecting Star Wars Outlaws to be more like Assassin Creeds when it comes to Stealth

[@eklypse21]

New Flandrew video. Thank you!

[@SayntMyk]

Haven't played either yet, but interesting how similar some aspects are. Still waiting for a bounty hunter game...

[@RRM693]

Survivor

[@kloogsisconfident4633]

Ubisoft would have done better to make a storyline with bounty hunters if they were going to do a shooter star wars game. Id much rather play as a character from the mandalorian guild or as jango or boba fett than some random girl who happens to get roped into a crime syndicate. Then they could do some upgrade system where you unlock your booster pack, different weapons, a wrist flamethrower, a wrist grappling hook (which wouldnt be hard for the company known for assassins creed and hidden blades). You could even have an armor upgrade system where you get beskar steel for completing certain side missions to upgrade your suit with more damage resistance or customize it with embeleshments based on the type of boss enemies you defeat. (Like the mudhorn emblem in the mandelorian). In my opinion, even a bad jedi game will always win over a good Star Wars shooter game with just blasters. Only thing is Outlaws isn't a good shooter game. It's just pretty. The universe is enticing, and nix is great for a cashgrab, but it isnt enough to warrant a 100+ hours youd need to see everything. Jedi Survivor wins in a landslide just based on the fact that you can play with a dual bladed lightsaber like darth maul.

[@IMVU-3434]

When I was a kid, the best and most beautiful game in the world was the Super Mario game. When I look at the existing games, the game is literally a masterpiece wonderfully beautiful games are being made I think that those who say these games are bad are people who have not experienced gaming history and do not know anything about it.

[@SauloBenigno]

What about your review? It the spoilers, history spoilers, I want to know everything about Outlaws

[@pfiction2453]

Only UbiSoft could make EA look good.

[@n0body550]

Respawn not EA

[@pfiction2453]

@ EA gave Respawn money and time to make a hi quality game, Ubi didn’t. I think if Massive worked with a publisher that didn’t have its head up its ass, Outlaws would have been awesome.

[@THEONETRUEOVERLORD]

EA vs. Ubisoft the ultimate battle of who can be the worst company. It’s fitting Disney one of the worst companies would only give the Star Wars IP to the worst video game companies.

[@hemigod2]

I think you know that you missed a whole bunch. I think that the developers use the same person to create the animals in this game for example, in Jedi survivor, you have the mixed gorilla rhinoceros and in outlaws you have the extra large headed short neck, giraffe animal.. very creative both lol

[@jediofalltrades2130]

As is being established by a lot of the comments here, Jedi: Survivor is the superior game between the two, and I do agree with that. But I also had a blast playing Outlaws and I do believe that it deserves more credit than people have been giving it. I'm not saying it's Game of the Year material, but it certainly isn't the piece of crap people are trying to say it is

[@517darknight]

Wow, watching these clips back to back, one game (outlaws) looks like it was made 7 years ago, while the other looks like the best of modern games

[@iChannelz88]

I told myself to give outlaws a try after the patches and combat/stealth improvements thats coming in november, if it looks better. it just looks way too janky atm

[@ConnorNotyerbidness]

Which is definately fair Having played to completion i didnt find it to janky at all though

[@tezzie_]

played on ps5 for 35 hours so far - its truthfully not that bad

[@KevinJ.-rc4ih]

It’s not janky at all for me 38 hours in. Especially the 40 fps mode. The gunplay is fun and the stealth good too. Especially as you progress and gain more skills.

[@User-s9r7x]

I stopped playing after 47hrs total Outlaws is really that bad don’t let these fools lie to you it’s a barebones experience

[@ConnorNotyerbidness]

@@User-s9r7x i played outlaws to story completion, minimal bugs beyond some visual glitches here or there Jedi survivor meanwhile was such a buggy mess i gave up 2 hours in after crash number 5 til its fixed

[@hanzdarm7849]

It has a Sword x Pistol fighting style? Kyle would be proud^^

[@yabito]

The issue i have with rebels is the blaster sponges. Is not canon receive that much shots. Usually one is enough to kill an armored stormtrooper. I would suggest another approach in the use of the blaster. And encourage stealth

[@jordanintheknow]

Imagine if Respawn did the combat in Outlaws it would probably be amazing

[@MoistNeon6]

Is there a difference between “stances” and “forms” for lightsabers? If they are the same, the only other force wielder to have mastered more forms than Cal is Palpatine

[@CONVERGENCEPOINT-ku2ph]

No it’s the same form the stances are just different weapons.

[@bobmcbob4399]

Both companions have the same wide head aspect ratio of an American Football aka Stewie Griffin to induce that "awwww" factor.

[@coreymckee4844]

My thoughts on Outlaws: The game is definitely ubisoft in it's purest form which may turn off many. But some like myself don't mind it. I had more issue with the ST references here and there. But given it takes place after episode 5 and before episode 6 for a change is nice. I did not like the disney trilogy. But I guess I don't mind having only the planets from the ST but set before that era is alright. It's a decent compromise. That aside, the game is really fun. The wanted system and open nature of the game makes it very replayable for me. But what really won me over was Nix. That little guy is probably the best thing for me about this whole game.🤩😍 His little animations like hopping on your speeder when u get close and looking at you hoping to go for a ride is fricken adorable. Along with the way he plays dead when u ask him to distract a guard or point your gun at him and the little interactions u can have with him when eating meals. God hes so cute. Lol The story was alright. I didn't love it or dislike it. It was serviceable. But evreything around the story was so fun that I didn't mind. (Minus the instant fail stealth missions ovcourse..) The backlash the game is getting should be directed to ubisoft higher ups. Not the devs themselves. Clearly alot of love went into this game from what I can see. The game didn't deserve to be completely review bombed. If I'm going to be as honest as possible, I would give it a good 7/10. Anything below a 6 or 5 is not right. The game does far more correctly than it does wrong. And I feel an 7/10 reflects that very well. I only hope we get atleast one more planet in the dlc expansions coming up. And maybe a few QOL improvements and fixes to make it better as it Definitely needs that. Anyway, that's about it. Just felt that I needed to say something and be as fair and realistic as possible while not being blinded by hate. 🙂👍

[@veganpower7825]

This game is like a mobile game. Repetitive and brainless

[@gemgem-hl7ii]

What's ST

[@coreymckee4844]

@@gemgem-hl7ii sequel Trilogy

[@clone9856]

Hey Flandrew! What you think about "World and galaxy size comparison SW: Galaxies VS SW: Outlaws". SW: Outlaws really FIRST game with open world?

[@Tsumefan2]

would it hurt you guys to know that i didnt finish jedi survivor because i pretty much got the gist of it anyway

[@doodskie999]

You are wrong, Outlaws is a Quadrouple A game. According to Ubisoft 😂

[@nick-314]

Honestly I like that Outlaw isn't as grandiose of a game as the Jedi games are. I like that you feel like just a little fly in a galaxy of criminals instead of a powerful Jedi.

[@DavidSmith-dt1pt]

"Stop it! He's already dead!" 😭

[@sneslive1556]

I've 100% the last two Cal games even though they suffer from the usual Ubisoft-esk collectathon syndrome. There's something there for me in terms of investment in the characters & story where I wanted to do it because I wanted to just play more of the games.

[@vic302013]

I'm playing both Jedi games right now. Outlaws was a lot easier to grasp than the Jedi games. More action and more things to do in the open world. Plus, I like to play sabaac

[@Is_badGaming2870]

just imagine if the creators of jedi survivor made a mandalorian game

[@GabrielleRivera-pw9pv]

My face when I clicked on the outlaws game trailer :😃 My face after I finished the outlaws game trailer :😔

[@mr.k1611]

You finished it? 1/4 way through and I lost interest pretty quick. For obvious reasons. Refunded and never touching it again.

[@GabrielleRivera-pw9pv]

@@mr.k1611 No, I didn't even buy the game. Just by the trailier I knew not to bother lol.

[@mr.k1611]

@GabrielleRivera-pw9pv Apologies, I somehow missed the part where you wrote "after the trailer." Again, apologies.

[@GabrielleRivera-pw9pv]

@@mr.k1611 All good

[@bobmcbob4399]

Which is the game that is more-so "made for the modern audience" please? That comparison was missing from the video.

[@nbrown5907]

So this is actually Massive entertainment (Outlaws) vs Respawn entertainment (Survivor) How much is in the publisher's control?

[@baradmemarkermani2184]

Well I think outlaws is special because it has a real feel of how a person in this galaxy would be, the world building and open world is something that we can't get from jedi games, but jedi games have better stories, but I don't regret that we have outlaws, because it's something we (starwars fans) never had , in jedi games you just see empire and cal , rarely a citizen or a NPC, but in outlaws, you get to be one of many people in this galaxy, but outlaws could be better, in many parts, I think both games are special in their own, and we must not forget that jedi games are 2 games so the story is much better.

[@ewhite1546]

I liked outlaws and survivor. Cal has a bit more exciting story but I really liked the open world parts of outlaws. I don’t care so much that the outlaws mechanics were a bit simplistic, if I have to get a phd in your game’s mechanics that would thrill 14 year old me, but not 27 year old me. I wish the writing was better in outlaws, it had good threads but needed more ND-5 interaction, crew interaction, rebel interaction etc.