Comparison 4K PRO-UHD vs 1080p - Epson 5040UB vs Panasonic AE8000U Projector - Is 4K Worth It?

[@ninomazzini1]

Hello Youthman, this time I disagree with you, it is not fair to compare a projector with a used lamp and a new one, in addition I have the Panasonic PT AE8000u projector, with 1800 hours of use and it does not look as bad as the video you have shown. In addition it seems that your panasonic was unfocused on purpose so that it was seen far below the EPSON 5040. I have also had in my hands a 6040 that is equal to the other and I assure you that the Panny has nothing to envy to the Epson. On the other hand, you need to compare other functions such as the Memory lens in which the Panasonic is superior to the Epson because it is automatic and the other is manual. and the color calibration in the Panasonic is made in its Hollywood laboratories by the cinematographers themselves. Finally at the end of the video you show, just before the final title, in the Epson you can see the judder vs Panny shows a more fluid video. regards

[@Youthman]

Thanks Oscar. Hopefully you realize this is in no way a review. I literally turned on the Epson, focused it and hit record You do bring up a point with the Penny being unfocused...I shot both video with the camera in the same location BUT I was shooting at 2.8 which has a shallow depth of field. With me cropping the right half of the Panny, the left half would be the furthest away from the camera which would cause the video to not be as sharp. I can do another video and put the right half side by side. Maybe that’s a better representation. Thank you for your input.

[@Youthman]

Even if the Panny comes out on top it’s unfortunate because they are no longer making Home Theater projectors. I do feel the lens memory will be far superior to the Epson. It’s super fast at around 4 seconds, is a smooth transition and it’s automatic. From demos I’ve seen online of the 5040, the Epson is none of those.

[@ninomazzini1]

Thank´s Youthman I´m waiting for the next video, regards!!

[@Youthman]

Thanks Oscar

[@danseabreeze1404]

I agree, I have a 1080P projector and it's CHEAP and it looks like the 4k images on the right not the 1080p on the left, my 1080p is not blurry at all and it's projecting at 140 inches. Even downloaded content that is 480p doesn't look nearly as bad as the left hand side of this video.

[@tomconnell7154]

if a person is just starting out in the Projector realm and only wants to use a projector for the occasional movie night once or twice a month - from your expertise is the 5040 still decent to have or should a person be looking at something newer?

[@dlloyd6300]

awesome video with the side by side, and I am glad that you were very transparent with the fact that the bulbs were not both at the same hour levels, but that just makes me truly wonder how much of the difference is the bulb and possibly focus drift. Being a professional installer I can tell you despite what they tell you on bulb life, a 2000H bulb has probably lost 30% of its advertised lumens. Also because of the reduced output, calibration has shifted. Another thing that needs to be checked periodically is the focus. When you power cycle a projector, it heats up and cools down. The thermal expansion and contraction from those cycles can cause the focus, lens shift, and zoom to drift every so slightly over time, so remember to check those every hundred hours or so. no doubt, everything being as it is, that Epson looks amazing.

[@Youthman]

Thanks Rich, I definitely wanted to make it VERY clear that this is not a true "fair" comparison as one has a new bulb and the other has 2000 hrs on the bulb. But it's what I have to work with since I do not want to spend $300 for a new bulb if I am considering selling the unit. You aren't the only one that has questioned the "focus" issue. Looking back at the footage, I realized something.... I shot with a 2.8 Aperture which has a shallow depth of field so as the subject (ie the projection image) gets further from the camera, it begins to blur. I also set the camera off to the right as to keep the shadow from being on the image. This means I was shooting at the screen at an angle which means the right side of the screen would be in focus and the far left side would begin to be less in focus. I am about to shoot another test video explaining this and this time, instead of using the left 1/2 of the image for the Panny, I will set a higher aperture to help everything to remain in focus and I'm thinking of putting the same right half of the image on the screen at the same time so that you are seeing not 1/2 and 1/2 but only the right half of the image on both projectors. Hope that makes sense.

[@warwith1n]

Yeah I am not sure about the comparison there, your Panasonic did not look calibrated at all, U need to take some still images and compare them, I use both 1080p and 4k lens shift and while the 4k has more pop to the colors the image on both are great at 13 feet away , yours looks really blurry and BAD

[@Youthman]

Google, someone else mentioned that as well. I want to do another comparison video tomorrow. When I moved the camera close to the screen, I filmed the Epson and then again with the Panny. Here is what I didn't think about. I was shooting with a shallow depth of field at 2.8 aperture on my camera. By coming close to the screen plus zooming in, it makes the area that is in focus even smaller so things that are further away from the camera begin to get blurry. So by cropping the right side of the Panny footage so that they could be seen side by side, the Panny footage would be further away than the Epson footage resulting in a blurry image. Tomorrow, I want to do the same test again but instead of splitting the screen, I will use either a higher aperture or I will use the right half of the footage and put them next to each other in the video. Does that make sense?

[@movieman247]

i have both, the panasonic is good but don't come close to the epson..

[@Youthman]

I’m actually surprised at how much difference in clarity there is. Brightness is difficult to judge as my Panasonic has 2000hrs on the bulb.

[@movieman247]

its way brighter as well, i have a new bulb on mine. now i'm thinking of doing a comparrasing using the darbee on the panasonic to make it more of a challenge.

[@Youthman]

Thanks for the insight. Several people commented that it wasn’t a fair comparison with the Panasonic having 2000 hrs on the bulb. Guess a new bulb wouldn’t make that much of a difference

[@angeldeschain0]

Thanks for the video. I think the huge difference that we see in the video it's also noticeable in person. I sold my old and trustworthy ViewSonic 7820hd (1080) for an optoma uhd50 (4k) and man, it was gorgeous to look at. Unfortunately, it was a faulty unit and I back ordered it since it would take a month to get a replacement unit and I opted for the ht2050a a half price 1080 budget projector and I'm really glad because the funniest thing is that when people come over they don't notice the difference, on the other hand, I immediately I felt that it wasn't as sharp or dark and white. Having said that I don't think my old optoma uhd50 would look 800 dlls better than this Benq. When money is not an issue color, contrast and sharpness are better however comparing money to quality is not worthy.

[@ts6640]

Any chance we can get an updated video? I am struggling with my decision whether or not to upgrade my Epson ProCinema 7500UB to a LG CineBeam HU810PW? I can’t make up my mind!

[@Youthman]

Unfortunately I’m not familiar with those models to be able to provide in advice. I sold my 5040UB and upgraded to the JVC DLA-NX7

[@danielcunniff5201]

Hey Youthman I was hoping you could give me some advise, I am Looking to switch my living room LED with a Projector and 120 inch screen because I am blind in one eye and have really hard time seeing. I have been looking at the Optema HD 143X, how ever I was wondering if I can find a good deal on one would you recommend your old panasonic projector instead of the 143X? I am looking for the best 1080P projector I can get for the money something that will last me at least a few years until I can upgrade to the Epson 4050UP?

[@SuperDave]

I wonder if a new bulb and some calibration to your Panasonic AE8000u 1080p projector would bring it more on par with the Epson considering the viewing distance?

[@Youthman]

Not sure. Just don’t want to spend $300 to find out. LOL. I am making another video comparison today.

[@SuperDave]

Contact Panasonic and ask them if you could review a bulb! JK!

[@Youthman]

Trust me...the thought had crossed my mind. They probably would send me one if they were still making Home Theater Projectors.

[@NES088]

Hey youthman! Would you be able to do a video comparing cheaper faux 4k projectors that are under the $2k price range, to the true 4k projectors in the $5k range?I've already seen videos comparing resolution clarity and they say people can't see the difference in clarity, so aside from that, what makes the higher end projectors so much more? I assume contrast and color etc. Is better, but hard to wrap my mind on the huge price difference, a video thoroughly comparing them would be nice

[@Youthman]

Being a photographer, one of the biggest differences between a high-end camera and a budget friendly camera is often times the glass. The same is true with high-end projectors. Better glass results and better clarity and detail.

[@Bijakrishna]

Very informative video, as usual... I have a doubt. 95% of the downloaded movies with me are in 1080 pixels. Rest are in 720 pixels. What is the best projector suited for these videos, whether 2K projector or 4K projector?. Will it be a waste if I buy a 4K projector? Since I fear it results in down-scaling and certain aspects of it will be removed, chief among them pixel density. If so, what will be the best projector range to play those videos in a 120 or 150 inch screen.

[@Youthman]

Unfortunately 720p and even 1080p content is going to look rough on a 150”. You can’t upscale 720p and hope it looks as good as a 4K movie. As a result, I only watch Blu-ray and 4K on my 150”

[@Bijakrishna]

@@Youthman Thanks

[@johnsmith-qz4bv]

im still rockin a 50'' tv but im looking at buying the optoma HD143X PJ....what are your thoughts a 4k pj is not in my budget right now......plus im looking at a 120'' screen.....

[@Youthman]

I have not reviewed any of the Optoma. I have been very pleased with my Epson 5040 and will soon be upgrading to a native 4K projector.

[@johnsmith-qz4bv]

@@Youthman ok thank you

[@SteveMuller1976]

I have the Panasonic projector for over 5 years now and with professional ISF Calibration the picture quality is still amazing today 😎

[@modepp5811]

Still rocking my AE8000 after 10 yrs! Can't get rid of it cause picture looks so good. Not sure if your projector was out of focus but I watched clearer videos on my VHS vs the pic you were showing on the AE8000 :):).

[@ninomazzini1]

Hi Michael, today I was testing an Epson 6040UB that I installed in my office, and I found a surprise Not very pleasant. It turns out that I was watching a movie in 4k Resolution, and the image has a judder, I checked the projector menu and saw that the Frame Interpolation was disabled. Reviewing the manual Epson says that this works only with Full HD, which is a tragedy, because if you want to watch a movie in 4k you have to endure the judder. What do you think about this?

[@Youthman]

I have not noticed any hitter with my 5040UB.

[@ninomazzini1]

@@Youthman It may be, the test was done with a BR Oppo 103 up-scaling a 1080 image to 4k. I'm going to redo the test with a Native 4k player and a 4k movie, this effect is probably not noticeable. I will tell you the results

[@jazzkatt7083]

Hey, Youthman. I just wanna say I'm glad you are on KZbin and doing what you do. It's fun and entertaining. I just got a "4k" projector; the Optoma UHD 50, and I have had it for about a few days but I love it. I even got a price far below the MSRP. it replaces a Mitsubishi HC1600 DLP projector that was native 720 but could display 1080i. It looked pretty good until I got dust in the light path which made dark scenes look like a starfield 😅. I am blown away by the Optoma. I am discovering things in movies that I've seen many, times. For example. In the fifth Element when we first see Bruce Willis after getting out of bed, I've noticed a pretty big scar on his front right shoulder down to his underarm. Never noticed that before...and this was in the 1080p Blu-ray, one edition with the audio mastered in 4k. All this is to say that properly setup 1080 is still amazing. I bought a few 4k titles to get me started but I have to say I'm realizing just how amazing 1080p Blu-ray can be. I have a 90 inch fixed frame Stewart Filmscreen. Hopefully not too many more people pile on this video with more of the same criticisms. 4k is kind of the new toy but 1080p is I believe one the most affordable and entertaining video formats to be around for a long time. Remember even today, regular DVD discs still outsell Blu-ray. Sorry for such a long post 😁

[@pabloarancibia5553]

Hello Friend. I'm from Argentina. And I wanted to ask for your help and advice. I have a panasonic pt ae 8000 that has given me many satisfactions. I bought an Epson Home cinema 4010. Do you think it is a step forward or should I keep the Panasonic ?. I am worried about the contrast and the blacks that in the Panasonic are excellent. Thank you

[@Youthman]

If you have them both, simply compare them side by side. Your eyes will be the best judge of whether it's an upgrade or not.

[@arongatt]

well for me going to 4k a few weeks back now from 1080p was a nice upgrade (that's on a tv tho ) so, I​ think it should be worthed even with a projector. but the Panasonic looks a bit blurry there so maybe your focus was a bit off?

[@Youthman]

Thanks Aron...got a new video I’ll be uploading tomorrow

[@pabloarancibia5553]

Hello Friend. I wanted to ask you two questions: 1- if what you are playing in both projectors is a blue ray 4k or is it a blue ray 1080 ?. 2- I have compared a Panasonic pt ae 7000 with an Epson home cinema 4010 4K side by side and I have not noticed differences. Play a blue ray with an oppo bdp 93. Use the two hdmi inputs that the oppo has. An hdmi has a processor that improves the image and that connects it to the Panasonic. The other hdmi has no improvement and that connects it to the Epson. But there are no differences. Why does that happen? Is there something I am doing wrong? What should I do to see differences? Sorry but I ask you because I don't have much knowledge and I have no one to ask. Thank you

[@deputysheriff5994]

The Panasonic is 2000 hours old, and placed 3(?) Feet further back so very unfair on the Panasonic! However I have two amazing epson projectors! The LS 10500 which I acquired recently and a Tw 8300 which is similar to a 5040! And I must say both of them are awesome in their own way! I project them on a 4k 3D "paint on" Custom made 230" screen and I must say I'm always blown away by the detail, color and depth of the picture including 3D! And the projectors are mated with a Marantz 8012! I do the upscaling on the Marantz itself and just play it through these projectors! The best part is that even the eco mode is bright enough in my dark theater!

[@LifeofBliss]

Hey I gotta agree with some of the others on here, the Panasonic does not look 100% in focus in the comparison. You touched on why that may be in one of the comments I saw... Regardless, it does make you appreciate the brightness of a new bulb and contrast differences (whether it be the bulb or Epson projector being the better performer). I actually have the same Panasonic as you that I bought used this past spring with about 800 hrs on it. Only reason I commented on the focus is I can attest it looks much better in my setup than it seemed to be portrayed in this video with regards to focus. A quick comment on why I went with that projector... As you know, the auto focus is amazing. Can't find that in a "budget" (under 2-3k) projector these days. Plus with all the new tech coming out (4K, laser, HDR, Dolby Vision, etc), prices seem to be pretty sky high for something that has most of the features people are looking for. 1080p still looks amazing at 120"+ and I feel like prices will be a little more tolerable in 2 years with the tech aging a bit. I decided to put more money into amps/speakers as they do not advance as quickly as visuals do. Enjoy your time with that Epson! That was one I was looking at hard before landing on the Panny.

[@Youthman]

Thanks Life. I spent a lot of time today doing some additional testing and just finished editing the video that I will post tomorrow.

[@ericreynolds9354]

I totally agree... The late Panasonic's had a great picture. Too bad they stopped making them. I think in a couple years we will have true 4k projectors and great HDR. Hopefully laser or another technology will become the mainstream and prices will drop below 3000. I'm sure the Epson is nice btw....

[@Youthman]

Yes just like all things electronic, give them a few years and they will become affordable and better at the same time

[@docwho10th88]

I have been running the Epson UB series projectors for the last 15 years....the blacks are INCREDIBLE! I love the Epsons so much I have 3 of them stacked on a 3 tiered shelves inside of a dust box with a splitter. That way. they get equal time and are being used and don't see that much downtime each.

[@Youthman]

Wow! Cool idea.

[@truhunk1]

And I have three wives in case two of them have a headache.

[@Youthman]

Hahaha

[@subodhganvir9758]

Plz provide a link abt how to adjust aspect ratio of movies 16:9 into 2.35 :1..what will have to do to watch every movies in this aspect ratio 2.35:1 ?

[@Youthman]

Here you go - kzbin.info/www/bejne/boimnGSGpr9nfrM

[@2cool0]

does having a lamp with that many hours make it look blurry like how the panasonic looks in this video?

[@Youthman]

I was shooting at an angle with a shallow depth of field so as you get further away from the focal point it begins to get blurry. The Panny was not blurry, that was a result of the camera. I should have filmed straight in front of the screen to prevent that

[@2cool0]

@@Youthman ohhh OK good to know

[@trevorcrowe7571]

I have the Epson 3700. It’s a light canon but the contrast ratio is terrible. I think the native contrast ratio is like 2000:1 without the cheating iris. How did you find the Epson in dark scenes?

[@Youthman]

So far, I have only watched with the dynamic Iris turned on (was on by default). Will have to try it without to see how well it does without it

[@bryanp4827]

Not sure why this keeps popping up in my feed, but just to be clear, or in the instance of soft focus Panasonic projectors, this is really only a 1080p vs 2k comparison...

[@johnsmith-qz4bv]

thats was great what are your thoughts on the it do u think 4k is worth it.....i just bought a 1080 p last year..still has a great picture and color maybe 4k in the future....

[@dlloyd6300]

Rock that 1080 for at least the life of your bulb man. Let native 4K drop in price and more content become available. I'd say 3-4 years.

[@Youthman]

Yeah I don’t think that native 4K will be in the < $3000 for 4-5 years.

[@johnsmith-qz4bv]

thats what i thought thanks

[@johnsmith-qz4bv]

thank you for the advice i am going to wait for a few years.. until the price really comes down or keep my eye open for a 4k tv witch are alot cheaper........thanks man cheers

[@Youthman]

Sounds like a plan John

[@audio_guy]

Is your screen 4 K capable as well? Looks like the Epson shows a lot of detail that the Panasonic leaves out. The Epson has depth and clarity that the Panny doesn't quite possess. The color tone on the Panny is excellent but you can really see the bulb degradation. I'm still rocking a 1080P Benq DLP (2 years) projector that replaced my good old Epson 3 LCD 720P (6 years) projector and a Greywolf 1080 screen. I'm going to make the switch to a 4K compliant screen this fall and I'm hoping to find a great Black Friday deal on a 4K Pro-jo. The Epson looks like it would be an EXCELLENT choice! Thanks for sharing !

[@Youthman]

Thanks PJ. Yes all Seymour Screens meet 4K standards so I’m good there. I was REALLY surprised how much difference in brightness and clarity. Looking forward to more testing but so far I like what I’m seeing

[@alexuscrowe]

What camera did you use? As a videographer, it looks like it has very limited dynamic range and not great image quality. You should consider a Sony A7sii if you plan on doing more reviews like this. Cheers.

[@Youthman]

I use a Nikon D7100. This my first projector comparison videos. Not sure how many more I will do. The vast majority of my videos will not likely be of this nature. Just trying something new.

[@trevorcrowe7571]

Youthman kudos for at least trying. Ignore all the negative comments.

[@Youthman]

Thanks Trevor.

[@miltkallu8641]

Hi bro, i bought a chinese projector yaufey C26 native fullhd, is there any way to verify that the projector is really fullhd native? Thank you

[@Youthman]

If you paid $200, sorry to say but no. True 4K will cost you around $6000

[@garymclure1]

I have the Epson 6040 projector. Love it took my time to setup the picture settings for all my inputs 4k bluray 1080 bluray amazon fire tv 4k and dvd and satellite tv. Brilliant projector really happy with it. Have about 1500 blurays and 150 4k discs. Play them with my oppo 203 with amp and dolby atmos speakers. Loving the videos just subscribed

[@Youthman]

Wow! What a collection Gary! What speakers and amp are you using? Thanks for subscribing! A new comparison video is dropping tomorrow!

[@krom5960]

I'm still using the ae8000u and it was a significant upgrade over my 1080ub which still works even today. Now I'm wondering about the 5050ub vs nx5.

[@Youthman]

I’ve got my eye on the NX7. Always wanted a JVC

[@krom5960]

@@Youthman The NX7 would be my ideal projector based on specs, native contrast. But my wife really wants another tractor so we have a conflict of interest on what I can spend. The street prices have the nx5 around $1400+ over the 5050ub. I'm trying to find a dealer near me that has the nx5 to demo and see if its worth the extra for better black level and auto tone.

[@Youthman]

@@krom5960 Yeah, I will have to get creative to get the NX7. I only need one kidney right?

[@kendalltull9854]

Difficult to really make sense of the true image quality difference because of the huge difference in brightness. And no tv or projector is going to be at its best without some calibration. Perhaps you could do a video on the basic consumer tools you can use to get the best video image if one can't afford professional calibration.

[@Youthman]

Great idea. I have always used the Disney WOW and AVIA II Buy I will look to see what is out there for 4K

[@RyanGosling6]

Can you try with ps4 with the 4K projector. I tried it with the 4K tv and it looks good but I used my blu ray because the ps4 has the option to automatically make it look better with the UHD and I’m just wondering if there’s a difference from that

[@amritasingh5424]

What would be the best 4k projector you would recommend - I am considering between Optoma uhd60 vs epson 5050 vs BenQ HT5550?

[@n.shiina8798]

the panasonic's bulb has seen better days lol. how many years for you to reach that 2K hours?

[@Youthman]

I have had it since January of 2015.

[@n.shiina8798]

soo... it's like 2hours on time per day?.

[@Youthman]

Yes. Sometimes I may go a week or two without turning it on.

[@Mown]

What is the name of the soundtrack of that demo please guys? It sounds powerfull!

[@Youthman]

Hi Mon, I put the names of the tracks I use in my videos in the descriptions of each video. Here is the song. Music by www.hooksounds.com "Cinematic Trailer", "Movie Adventure" and "Epic Legend"

[@Mown]

Youthman, Thank you very much. I appreciate your help and all your uploads in this channel. Have a nice day!!!

[@Youthman]

Glad to help.

[@truhunk1]

As soon as I heard you thanking Epson for sponsoring this video, I knew how this video was going to go. Also, this should have been a video about bulbs dimming over time. I also think you must of had some edge enhancement or super resolution turned up on the Epson and turned down on the Pani. The white highlights on the vegetation at 7:13 was subdued on the Pani and exaggerated on the Epson. That is due to settings. It's not because it's 4K.

[@Youthman]

Hi Claude, thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts and concerns about this video being sponsored. Epson, nor any other manufacturer that has sponsored videos have ever asked or demanded anything of me. As a Content Creator, I have complete free loom to produce whatever videos I desire and I am not required to say certain things. I do my best as a home theater enthusiast to share my personal experiences with products and to remain as objective as I can, regardless if a video is sponsored or not. Based on other demos of the 5040, I can already tell it is not as fast or as smooth with Lens Memory changing between say 16:9 - 2.35:1. Hopefully this will become faster and smoother with future models. My integrity and character are more important than any Brand Deal. The Epson was setup using factory settings. I haven’t adjusted any settings other than zoom/focus on the Epson and the settings on the Panny are what I have used in my home since I purchased it. I haven’t had the time to peruse the menu system to see what options are available. The AE8000U was first manufactured in 2012. My purpose in this series is to see for myself if the Epson would be an upgrade to my 1080p Panasonic Projector. I would have been glad to review a Panasonic projector but they are no longer making home theater projectors. I ran some additional tests in this video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4OUqaN5d6anmsU and discussed an error on my part that caused the Panny to look out of focus in this video. Again, thank you sincerely for your thoughts as well as concerned. I welcome them anytime. Have a blessed day.

[@Youthman]

I will always be very transparent when a video is sponsored. I openly share this in the beginning of the video, mark the video as Sponsored and state so in the description of the video.

[@claudedesaulniers2291]

It’s good to hear that you wouldn’t be influenced by being sponsored. Maybe the Epson came from the factory with some of the resolution settings juiced up a bit ? Anyway, I own an Epson 5030 and I really like it. Although my bulb is looking like your Panasonic’s.

[@Youthman]

Thanks Claude, is there any particular settings I should look for in the Epson that might be “Juiced up”? This is my first experience with an Epson Projector.

[@claudedesaulniers2291]

Well, the regular resolution should be on the first adjustment screen, then you have super resolution on the signal screen I believe. The super resolution is something similar to Darbee video enhancement. There’s nothing wrong with using these settings, except of course that if you set them too high it makes the picture worst, not better. As I’m sure you know there is a trade off. Too much resolution and the picture no longer looks believable. I find super resolution set at 2 is usually good. Of course you should also turn off that frame interpolation nonsense. Enjoy.

[@marcus1970]

Another great video that had my interest even though I'm not in the market for a projector... All facts are laid bare, such as bulb wear and not being native 4k.. I think it was still enlightening.... Perhaps as an absolute definitive "fair" comparison, the video has its shortfalls... BUT if I were in your position to choose between keeping an existing unit and trialing a new one... I'd do the same.. I wouldn't go to expense to replace an old bulb... I would only temporarily set up the new unit and such.. Its not ideal, but an issue of practicalities..... I'm very certain that you'll switch projector soon.... Are there any other units to be considered?

[@Youthman]

Hi Marcus, thank you for your input and insight. Yes it certainly is not a completely fair comparison with the aging bulb but that’s why I wanted to make it abundantly clear in the disclaimer and text over the video. I have other telexes I want to run as well. Unfortunately Panasonic is no longer making home theater projectors so I reached out to Epson and JVC. Unfortunately I cannot get a reply from JVC Marketing Rep.

[@thedesperado9720]

Although I agree that 4k can be a significant improvement over 2k I have never seen such a bad 2k projection before. I upgraded to a JVC X 5900 and have some real good UHD blu rays where the difference is worth the higher price but one has to check reviews before buying. The Apple TV 4k also provides good 4k HDR content but the sound quality is not as good as on Blu Ray / UHD.

[@Youthman]

JVC has been known for producing outstanding PQ. Keep in mind, the Epson has not been calibrated in any way. Just straight out of the box.

[@thedesperado9720]

Youthman 2k is the Full HD resolution, I thought the Panasonic picture was pretty bad. I have seen the Epson, it is quite good although the Sony and JVC projector are clearly better. They are much expensive as well, so the Epson is at its price point a good option.

[@Youthman]

Hi Frank, I did some more testing today and just finished editing the video. It will go live tomorrow. Found some very interesting results.

[@matheaumichalak7537]

The Oppo 203 definitely plays a role in this process.

[@Youthman]

Wouldn’t it play a role for both projectors?

[@mustaphag]

Excellent video. I think this is the best video so far that show the difference between 1080p and 4k pixel shilf

[@Youthman]

Thanks. Hopefully I can do even better in future videos.

[@WartyWarthogHogger]

That's the main reason I'm still waiting for better projectors in the future. As you watch more and more movies, you just lose quality and brightness. Size is neat, sure, but it'd just be a mind game with me making a judgemental move on everything I do with the projector. Gaming and watching movies. Either that, or a nice affordable MicroLED panel down the line. Recently picked up a Sony x900f during the holidays, and this should last me till the next big thing, we hope.

[@Youthman]

Yeah there’s always some new technology advancement. Sometimes you need to just sit back and enjoy what you have.

[@teecees]

Great vid, M. My buddy who owns a home theater company swears by the Epson. I'm still trying to decide between e-shift and true 4k. I'm also on the fence about laser or bulb. I like to get new stuff when it comes out, so I don't know if I can justify spending the extra $ for a 20,000 laser life when I'll probably ditch it after 7 years anyway. Keep up the good work, while I'm still in the building stage, I look forward to your thoughts.

[@Youthman]

Thanks Tom. Yeah I’m with you...I think I’m going to hold out for Native 4K for awhile till prices drop below $3000

[@dlloyd6300]

I'm a pro installer and swear by Epson also. Amazing value, its what I own. I would personally recommend that you buy a quality 1080P now, or wait for native 4K to come down in price to whatever your budget might be. Currently the leaders in entry 4K are the Sony VLP-VW285ES and Optoma UHD51.

[@teecees]

Rich Miller That's actually exactly where I'm at. He's in my ear screaming Epson, but that Optoma looks pretty sweet, too. Decisions, decisions....

[@Youthman]

Hey Tom, So far, I have only had Panasonic and Epson in my theater so I am unfamiliar with the Optoma. Check out That Home Theater Dude. He just did a review comparing the 5040UB to the Optoma UHD65

[@teecees]

Youthman I will check it out now. Thanks for the heads up!

[@m.r.8247]

Anything pass from left to the right comes alive 😁next time I hope u replace the blub for fair comparison. Stuck with the 1080 Sony vpl hw45es 4k projector maybe soon not sure.

[@Youthman]

Yeah I wish I had a spare bulb but no sense spending $300 to make a comparison video only to turn around and likely sell the projector. That’s why I put the disclaimer in the video and made it really clear the Penny does have 2000 out of 4000hrs on the bulb

[@m.r.8247]

@@Youthman 2000 out of 4000 on echo mode? My Sony blub dead at 1800 full mode

[@Youthman]

I’m at 2000 on full mode

[@Ferrari_1996]

When are you receiving the PSA S3611?

[@Youthman]

I haven’t heard from Tom in awhile. I will email him this afternoon to check in. He told me over a month ago I was at the top of the list to receive one.

[@Ferrari_1996]

Any update?

[@Youthman]

Nada...I messaged them on their website over the weekend

[@Ferrari_1996]

Have you heard since? Tom posted this on AVS: www.avsforum.com/forum/113-subwoofers-bass-transducers/1372020-official-power-sound-audio-subwoofer-thread-1478.html#post56729348

[@Youthman]

Hi Ferrari. Tom mentioned in a previous email that they need to fulfill customer orders that have been waiting before they can send me a review unit. I just sent Tom an email to check in on it. I know they are working as fast as they can getting those orders out. This seems to be pretty common with most brands. Indie Audio Labs originally spoke with me probably 4 - 5 months ago in which they want to send me their ACT4 Processor and the A20007 Amplifier. They are in the same boat as PSA in needing to fulfill customer orders first. I'll let you know what I hear back from Tom.

[@garypranzo9334]

I went from the 8000 to the epson 4040 and even in that case it was a big difference but that said I think the 8000 footage here is not right, Not sure if it the focus or the content or just the 2000hrs on the bulb or a combination. I think the 8000 would normally do a bit better. That said Panasonic is done with Projectors and even looks like Sony might be moving away from the consumer projector market soon so IMHO for serious Home theater under 5K it is Epson all the way. (PS: For Gaming Optoma might have the crown now with the UH50x)

[@imarcoi123]

I'm not trying to be a hater or nothing like that, just trying to give some info . The Epson is not a truly 4K projector. It just accepts 4K content and enhance that signal in a 1080 p . I love your videos by the way.

[@Youthman]

Thanks. I mentioned in the video that it’s not native 4K. True 4K is too expensive right now

[@Youthman]

FYI, I completely welcome your opinion, even if it doesn’t agree with mine.

[@anivdas]

Nice video. Currently rocking a JVC RS-6710U (1080p with fauxK Eshift). Will upgrade to laser 4K when its below 12k mark.

[@Youthman]

I just reached out to JVC about reviewing one of their 4K eshift projectors.

[@Ctripp2448]

Great vid brother. 👍👍. I still run a epson 3700. Great projector for me so far. Will upgrade to 4K once price comes down.

[@Youthman]

Thanks Bon. Yeah I’m not ready to jump full 4K at their current price but I think this will hold me over quite nicely until 4K is more affordable

[@TheOnlyGHOST1015]

Nice video but I don't think this is a fair comparison very old bulb versus a new bulb

[@Youthman]

Could not agree with you more and that's why I mentioned that in several of the Epson vs Panasonic videos I made. But the reality is there is no reason for me to spend $300 on a new bulb for the Panasonic when I'm wanting to upgrade to a newer projector.

[@Antimonkat]

@@Youthman the other issue I have heard and likely a bigger deal is sending 4k data to a 1080p projector in and of itself drastically produces a darker image then it would with native 1080p video and I have seen examples of this when another reviewer tested both 1080 and 4k versions of the same content. So there is no real way to fairly gauge brightness, but that isn't really the point of the video or comparison, it should be about detail and clarity, because that is really what we are talking about can you tell the difference in resolution and detail between 1080 and 4k content on a screen at distance which really isn't going to come across on a youtube re-compress of 1080p recorded video anyway, so the comparison shots are nice but not really useful, it's really just about you explaining your experiences in person. Also i'm not sure the hating on e-shift is all that justified, most of what I hear is you can't tell much difference in most cases between good e-shift and true 4k, it's still producing the same number of pixels on screen, I woudl still try to avoid it though due to more points of failure, some issues with jitter, and you're essentially halving your frame rate, unless it was drastically cheaper, and generally doesn't seem to be, I don't see the value, I'm in the camp buy the best equipment you can, and it will last you a lot longer and be a better value in the end, I'm shooting for a true 4k projector for that reason, but I haven't ruled out the 5040 as i hear a lot of great things about it from various people, I just figure by the time I get something, a better model will exist.

[@Youthman]

I agree with you. It’s not a night and day difference but I did notice improvement and clarity with the E shift. I would love to go with the full native 4K but right now there about $5000 for the Sony or the JVC. I tend to buy them around the $2500 or less price range so I will wait a few years until they come down in price

[@Antimonkat]

@@Youthman what about the benq ht3550. It claims to be true 4k for $1499 today on Amazon. I'm real curious about it. On paper it looms great, could be brighter but otherwise seams like a value contender... Never mind just did more research. It too pixelshifts, i got confused by "true 4k" that hardly seams honest but ok. Still seams like a great projector and in essence has twice the pixels of the epson. That would be a nice side by side. So many options...how to choose.

[@Youthman]

@@Antimonkat not a chance at $1499.

[@aeliayousaf]

my Pt-ae8000u is super bright and crystal clear, your's is definitely not calibrated.

[@Youthman]

It was when I installed it. Definitely wouldn’t hurt to have it recalibrated

[@149279]

Another great video. Epson wins this one, however 2000 hrs is good amount that was put on the other bulb. Side by side comparison was awesome. Can’t wait for your next projector review, hopefully one of the Sony VPL like the 285

[@Youthman]

The hardest thing with doing reviews is finding who to contact. They don’t make it obvious who their Marketing Rep is. End it seems the larger the company, the harder it is to find the right person to talk to you about reviewing their product. I will try again to reach out to Sony

[@149279]

Youthman I’m pretty sure it’s hard. I appreciate all your help. Keep up the good work.

[@Youthman]

Thank you kindly.

[@149279]

Youthman my pleasure!

[@Youthman]

Thank you for being a part of the Youthman Community.

[@ericreynolds9354]

My ae4000u looks way better than what you show the ae8000u. Mine has 2000 hours on it too.... your Panasonic looks like VHS... LOL

[@Youthman]

Hi Eric, you are correct. I figured out why which I’ll explain in the next video tomorrow.

[@Youthman]

Here is the latest video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4OUqaN5d6anmsU

[@klient3100]

Heh i got that pana pj for years (2nd lamp)its one of the best but Man...optoma uhz50 in hdr kills ...love it another level

[@sickjohnson]

The irony that JVC just announced a couple weeks ago it's "faux" 8k (E-SHIFT...that is actually true/ full native 4K) is funny to me Youthman, and they are available already. Maybe you might want to reconsider your title choice of 4K to at least 4K UHD...because you are not comparing actual 4K here, like the title misleadingly states above...and then to goes as far to assess it's value on that false premise?

[@Youthman]

Hi sick. What is ironic about JVC introducing a native 4K projector? Technology is continually advancing at a rapid pace and will continue to do so. JVC has always made incredible projectors with amazing black levels but they typically cost several thousand more too so it should be expected. Thanks for the suggestion on editing the title. I have added PRO-UHD to the title. The description also mentions it is 4K Enhancement.

[@sickjohnson]

Hey Youth, the irony is these specific comparison videos were done years ago...but you could have beat them if you had the new JVC 8K vs. the new Sony 4K Laser that won all the awards shutting out JVC's new 8K projector at the most recent show. Youthman, you are right about the cost...but the new entry level 4K projectors are both $5K now, so they are finally coming down. For me the technology is moving very show...JVC was stagnate with zero innovation for 6 years, and they should have always been native 4K with 8K upscaling from day one, thus forcing Sony to step up their lazy game too; the only thing Sony has done in the last half century on their over priced 4K was minor processing speed, some lens tech and finally a laser light source. Panasonic has used laser light source for years now in their large venue projectors. The problem is lack of completion for them to have to give us more, the two owned their price segments and left each other alone, now though, the fight is on finally.

[@andreiter]

Will they ever make projectors with LED bulbs that can compete with these bulb projectors which cost in the thousands? So far, I see just cheaper projectors with the LEDs

[@Youthman]

It all depends on whether JVC, Sony, or other higher end projector manufacturers decide to make one

[@andreiter]

@@Youthman ahhhhh okay, so I don't see high-end projectors ever stop using bulbs. I would think anyone who spends alot on a projector, should probably buy an extra bulb or two right away, so there won't be any problems trying to get one down the road. I'm thinking the brightest LED home/mini projector is probably 1500 lumens? I have a Vankyo 630 that I think produces 450 lumens, and the Viewsonic M1+ that does roughly 300 lumens

[@brandonculler8550]

Great job on this video, probably my favorite video you have done to date. I really like the side by side comparison so we can see the difference.

[@Youthman]

Thanks Brandon. If you like this one, check out the one I posted on Sunday - kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4OUqaN5d6anmsU

[@jcasetnl]

Ugh. We don't need 4 whole minutes of hearing about a cable upgrade or how projectors are temporarily mounted. And when selecting footage to A/B test, don't use nature footage that changes every second. You can't study each side of the picture before it changes. And you need to try and calibrate your projectors to at least brightness which is within the ballpark of each other. Two projectors calibrated for full dark aren't going to look this wildly different. Frankly, all you can get from this video is that the Epson is sharper and that your Panasonic is poorly calibrated and out of focus. I seriously don't understand why anyone upvoted this.

[@Youthman]

Ugh. Terribly disappointing huh. You could always start your own channel and show us all how to do it properly. Be blessed.

[@m.r.8247]

Thumbs up 👍been hitting before start watching 100% deserve it

[@Youthman]

Aw thanks!!!!

[@johnparker7284]

Great video as always you should hit 8k subs this weekend.

[@Youthman]

Whoohoo!!!! Thanks John. I’m looking to 10K myself 😀

[@locky6796]

I'm running the Epson 5040 /tw8300 Australia. I think it's great, watching 4k DVD'S is noticeably better than standard blueray. Looking forward to your next video with the settings and hopefully I can pick up a few tips to see if I can get a bit more out of it. I enjoy you're content, keep up the good work.

[@Youthman]

Thanks Dave!

[@stevengamble1550]

I have the Panny 8000 in my game room above my shop, and the 5040UB in my HT room. I Upgraded from panny to 5040 Epson. The difference is HUGE. The Blacks and Contrast is 1000 percent perceived better, and colour is more vibrant. It is not a Ton sharper though. But is it worth the upgrade 100% Yes! that said my panny is going to a church donation and the 5040UB goes to the game room and the HT room now gets Sony 4K since Epson won't make one native 4K

[@Youthman]

Glad you are enjoying it!

[@vagomaniac]

I appreciate your time and effort but... the epson is NOT 4k it is 1080 like the pany, and only accepts 4k signal. Just check the sony vpl285 and you get what 4k means. The comparison due to the hours on the panasonic and the much more bright epson, is not to be taken seriously.

[@Youthman]

You are correct. I stated in the video that the 5040UB is not native 4K. The question I’m trying to answer is a 4K Enhancement Projector an upgrade over a 1080p Projector or is it just Marketing hype. My next video will be posted tomorrow with a different set of tests.

[@vagomaniac]

Youthman Ok, looking forward. The 4k enhancement is an upgrade I believe but I don’t think that the money they’re asking make a good deal. The 5040 is an excellent projector overall and its hdr is very good. I’m going for the jvc 5900 for my three sitter mini theater. You can’t go wrong with a JVC no matter how old 👍

[@Youthman]

I have reached out to JVC because they have always been known for quality projectors with amazing black levels.

[@rajithskumar]

Good, Sure there is a big difference ,I believe Epson wins here because of that 4k upscaling,HDR & WCG .

[@Youthman]

Thanks. I’m going to do another comparison video tomorrow. Stay tuned

[@YuriItape11]

Hi, no doubt the Epson is significantly better ! I have the Panasonic AE 7000 and recently bought the Epson...so no discussion....Epson is much better in all aspects related to image quality. But Epson 5040UB has a major reliability problem...mine worked around 100 hours and suddenly stopped turming on...this fatal failure in the power circuit is unfortunately very common as anyone can verify with a simple google search. By chance do you know if Epson has corrected this project failure ? Mine is to be replaced, but my fear is that the power supply fails again..as several customers are reporting of sequencial failures in replaced units. However, if this critical problem is adressed and solved by Epson, the projector is a wonderful option, not only in image quality ( includind 3 D), but also in unbeatable set of features (eg. Automatic lens control ).

[@Youthman]

That is a good question. I’m not sure if they have found a solution or not. I will check with my Epson Rep to see if they know or can find out

[@Youthman]

That’s good to hear Jeff.

[@truhunk1]

I've heard and read about this power board problem. I'm staying with my 5030 till this gets sorted out. Actually if the price is right, I want an LED or laser projector. Dimming bulbs is for the birds.

[@garymclure1]

I am using a sony amp that decodes dolby atmos and dtsx. Have still got a onkyo amp and pv1 sub with b and w speakers at my old house but since I moved I recently got the sony amp and also the focal sib evo dolby atmos/dtsx speaker package check it out online this is a great setup and include a subwoofer comes complete for about £1200 here in the uk.

[@Youthman]

Sounds like a great setup Gary. I have never owned a Sony receiver. I’ve had Yamaha, Harman Kardon, Emotiva, Marantz and Onkyo

[@musicman257]

defintley makes difference.Dont have room for a projector screen but I do have a 55'' 1080 p lg but would love to upgrade to a 60'' 4k

[@Youthman]

Thanks Richard. I just posted another video today with a comparison that is even more noticeable.

[@Pitbull0669]

good side by side buddy Now get benQ to get you my Projector and BLAMO fair fight But 3LCd vs DLP with brightness will always be off. Do a 1080 side by side the a 4K because you can still feed a 1080 a 4K image and it will be sharper I used to do that

[@Youthman]

Thanks for the suggestion PITBULL

[@trans1231000]

Hey Youthman you should Switch to the Sony VPL-VW285ES it is the Best Projector out there for the Budget for only $4,000

[@Youthman]

Thanks David. I’ll wait till it’s under the $2500 price point. It’s hard for me to spend $4000 knowing it will lose over 75% of its value in 4 -5 years.

[@trans1231000]

Youthman Yeah that’s True. What other Stuff do you have Besides the Projector?

[@sridhartn83]

I think your Panasonic requires some repair, 1080p isn't that bad in real use, and color saturation and color brightness has not much to do with resolution and I see your Panasonic was dull. Also I am sure Epson uses 3LCD and I think Panasonic uses DLP which has less brighter color but such a huge difference, clearly suggests your Panasonic requires some repair, please use a better 1080p projector for comparison if you can. Not a fair comparison video. Also Epson 5040UB uses a 1080 chip which does pixel shifting to achieve 4K enhancement and doesn't provide the pixels required compared to other 4k pixel shifting based projectors. So this actually isn't a 4K vs 1080p comparison, rather a comparison between used faulty Panasonic DLP vs LCD Projector.

[@Youthman]

this video is a few years old and I have moved on from the Panasonic to JVC DLANX7

[@robertosmitho2012]

I remember when they did this comparing the regular video resolution to a dvd quality then from a dvd to 1080 comparing and always the old video look like this , like is shot from a regular 480p TV is so funny it insults my intelligence

[@Youthman]

Why does it insult your intelligence?

[@TheToronto122]

I'm currently running an Epson Pro Cinema 6010, and I can tell you it absolutely DESTROYS that Panasonic for picture quality. HOWEVER, I'm seen a PT-AE4000, and it's got a pretty damn good picture, about 90% as good as mine. So that leads me to believe there's something wrong with your Panasonic. Should the Epson 5040 be better, sure it should, but not THAT much better.

[@Youthman]

Having 2000hrs on the bulb doesn’t help the comparison.

[@TheToronto122]

My Epson has about that and it looks fantastic. I can't justify upgrading just yet. It's still too good.

[@Youthman]

Absolutely Andy. Run it as long as you can.

[@crawfislk]

Obviously the source video (disc) was 4k? Or was it a 1080p source? still played on a 1080 Panasonic? Why would you play a 4k source on a 1080 projector? what's the point? Poor comparison. I have an Epson 1080 its good I know. But creating fedelity out of nothing, as in upscaling from 1080 I guess, is not even accurate led alone a worthy comparison. Plz explain.

[@VictorRamirez-gt4uw]

Epson projector wins big time, I know there was a big difference in the lamp hours but that was night and day. Great video 👏🏽

[@Youthman]

Thanks Victor. I wish I had a new bulb but no sense paying $300 for a bulb if there is a possibility I might be selling it

[@SinhVTruong]

He f'd the footage. The Panasonic should not look this bad.

[@Youthman]

Say what you want but I haven’t modified the projector nor the footage. My Panasonic is 5 years old. I’ve stared in each video the Panny has 2000 hrs on the bulb. It’s not a “Fair” comparison for those reasons but I’m not doing these comparisons to get convince someone to buy the Epson, I want to find out for myself if the 4K Enhancement is an upgrade from my 1080p Panny or if it’s a lateral move.

[@sinbrad]

If that's the case then do a comparison with a low level Chinese unit and you'll get the same outcome, a 4k projector new out of the box will be far superior. My epson is full 1080p with a bulb less than 200 hours and it would blow yours away in its current state. I would also state that it looks no different to the 4k, yes resolution is lower but the output quality is just as good

[@Youthman]

Thanks Sinbrad

[@dustang05]

Went from my Benq w1070 1080p to a Optoma UHD60 4k. Love the 4k but the color on my benq was nice. But the UHD60 wins hand down.

[@Youthman]

There are some great options out there.

[@housbinpharteen7445]

That was not a fair fight, at least you should have gotten say 2 new Epsons one 1080p the other 4K, but i see your trying to compare with what you have, i noticed that the 4k was brighter and sharper, now that said my epson 2150 seems sharper and brighter than the panasonic

[@Youthman]

Thanks for your input. Yes it’s simply what I had at the moment. I was considering upgrading to a 4K enhanced or pixel shifting 4K projector and I knew Panasonic was no longer making home theater projectors so I did not want to purchase a $350 bulb just to make them equal. Thx for watching.

[@crawfislk]

Not to mention you replaced a perfectly good HDMI cable for one with more BW. Bandwidth that your Epson projector is NOT going to use. It is a native 1080p which means to get 4k it has to interpolate (create) all the pixels between the native 1080 pixels. Meaning it doesn't use your extra bandwidth. Sry.

[@robbot9877]

I've been watching a few of your videos lately but with this clip you have lost all credibility. the panasonic was clearly out of focus. my old W1070 had a clearer image than that with a 2000 hour bulb

[@Youthman]

I shot the video with a 2.8 aperture as I typically do. what I didn’t realize was that filming at an angle would cause the image that was furthest away to begin to lose focus. It’s a moot point considering Panasonic hasn’t made home theater projectors in several years.

[@BobRooney290]

the lamp fading really dissuades me from considering a projector.

[@Youthman]

It’s inevitable. My JVC lamp is $750

[@lawallac]

@@Youthman The lamp for my Epson 2250 Home Cinema is $59 shipped right from Epson. I've got several spare.

[@AJOHNNYA]

Projector distance is also an issue. 0 hours to 0 hours same distance. Thanks for the vid and your time.

[@beastscinema3964]

It's the one thing that I don't like about projectors is the Deming it bothers me that's why I decided to go with a TV version and get the biggest they make eventually in the future TVs are probably get biggest as projectors Samsung Technologies getting better and they're predicting in the future to have a 120 TV or bigger but for now people that want 120 or bigger need to go with a projector they're wonderful and they're great they look perfect it's just a Deming is what I don't appreciate if they ever fix that problem I'll jump into one probably would do an extension to my home and make it delegated theater room and have one just like Youth Man lol

[@Youthman]

I would love to see you get a huge projection to match your huge sound.

[@dlloyd6300]

Do you mean Dimming? If so, they have a solution, it's called a laser lamp. 20,000 plus hours. Expensive but not unattainable. Epson has one. Other nice thing is almost instant on, no warmup period.

[@luisreta2348]

when you see the images of 1080, they seem as if they were 480, well, they do not seem even 720

[@TheMeefive]

The Panasonic is an old 1080p projector. There are better ones available at a much cheaper price.

[@Youthman]

I agree. Technology is rapidly advancing

[@gsmd770]

In this comparison I found the 1080p better,cause the picture was just too dark for the 4K projector. I saw they showed the Brandenburg Gate towards the end. The new modern Berlin looks like sh!t! Has nothing to do with the video,but it caught my eye and I've lived here for about 28 years now. Next time just switch out the bulbs for a better comparison. Still a nice video.

[@Youthman]

Thanks. Not sure I want to buy a $300 bulb just for a test when I might be upgrading to the Epson. I posted a new video with additional testing

[@Youthman]

The test showed it wasn’t the result of the bulb.

[@gsmd770]

Very true. 300 for a bulb is steep.

[@Youthman]

If Panasonic was still in the business of making home theater projectors, they would probably be willing to send me one for the comparison

[@gsmd770]

That's always been the downside to projectors. The bulbs and the room can't have to much light or you don't have that great picture. I use a 65 inch Sony LED TV. It works for me.

[@mayanksingh12]

Epson seems sharper but colors on panasonic are much better..Also its bad to compare 2000 hrs lamp with 0 hrs lamp. Obviously 0 hrs lamp will be brighter. So this comparison was flawed.

[@Youthman]

Of course it’s not a completely fair comparison but that’s why I stated it in the video. But it’s what I had to work with. And if I was going to upgrade, I didn’t want to spend $300 on a new bulb for the Panny.

[@jvonengeln]

This video is so misguided it would be best to just take it down. It’s putting out bad info and is a disservice to any viewers. The Panasonic AE8000U doesn’t look anywhere near that bad. I have one. I just bought a 5040UB. I’ll upload my own comparison video within a month.

[@Youthman]

That’s the best thing. Do your own comparison. All I can do is share my results. No reason to pull the video when I’m only sharing my results. As stated in several videos the bulb had 2000 hrs on the 8000u. I have owned two Panasonic projectors (3000u and 8000u) and enjoyed them both. It wasn’t until I found out they no longer make home theater projectors that I started looking at other brands for my home theater.

[@herrero562]

There’s got to be something seriously wrong with your Panny. My Sony VPL-HW45ES looks WAY BETTER than that 2k and probably as good as the 4K with 1,900+ hrs under the trunk. But the age of your bulb made it totally unfair compared to a fresh unit. I’m not upgrading to 4K any time soon. The difference is not worth the $ and REAL 4K prices are ridiculous.

[@Youthman]

The bulb hours could have definitely had an impact on video performance. I agree...Im not ready to upgrade to native 4K yet as they are still quite expensive

[@teslacybertruck750]

Whoever thinks there isn't much difference, needs to go see an optometrist, I am concerned about you eyesight

[@bamlin52]

Not convinced. Yes 4k is better but only just. You have to look hard to see the difference with the ones I have seen. I have epson 1080p projector very happy with it. To get better I would have to pay a lot more . Not worth it.

[@Youthman]

Not trying to convince anyone. I’m trying to see for myself is Faux 4K worth it or is it Marketing hype. Check out my latest video I posted yesterday.

[@SnapDragon313]

Wow I have to say that there is a huge difference between the two projectors. Gonna think about getting a 4k projector. Great video. Thanks

[@Youthman]

Thanks. I will be doing another comparison video tomorrow. There are some things I think I can improve on in the video.

[@chisel83]

The Panasonic looks out of focus. Everything looks clipped and crushed compared to the epson

[@Youthman]

Out of focus was my fault. Take a look at this video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4OUqaN5d6anmsU

[@SinhVTruong]

Man this video pisses me off so much. This is why people don't trust youtubers. Nothing but false information. Do a correction if you want to be right or you'll get flamed to death on the AV forums.

[@Youthman]

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. You state “nothing but false information. Just curious if you could elaborate on what information you consider is false. I believe my reputation over the past 10 years in the various Facebook Groups, Klipsch and AVS Forums that I frequent and Moderate and my videos here on this channel can attest to my character and reputation. Both of those mean more than any sponsored video or dollar amount. My desire on this channel is to invite my audience along my home theater journey. I don’t claim to be an expert, an audiophile, nor a videophile. I’m simply a home theater enthusiast that has a passion for audio/video With her desire to share that with those that are interested. If I review a product and there are negative things I find, I have no problem sharing them. I haven’t tested the Lens Memory yet but from what I’ve seen online, it will not be as smooth or quick as my Panasonic, nor is it automatic. Have a great weekend.

[@Youthman]

Evalastin_Vapes not sure if you have seen the two videos I posted after I made this first video kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4OUqaN5d6anmsU kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5O8ZYl_ba2jiMU

[@iggswanna1248]

i see no damn diference when this video is at 1080p

[@carsandcrypto868]

Hey Youthman, something doesn't look right. I know this is a sponsored video... but the Panny looks out of focus.

[@Youthman]

You are correct. Check out these two videos that I made after I made this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4OUqaN5d6anmsU kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5O8ZYl_ba2jiMU

[@sinbrad]

A bulb change is needed before you do a comparison!

[@Youthman]

You do realize this is not a scientific experiment correct? 😀. My projector it’s probably 4-5 years old so the technology is older, the ball was older, and the format is older. By no means is it a fair comparison but it’s what I have. I want to see if the 4K enhancement is better than my current 1080 P projector. There’s no need for me to buy a $300 bulb just to test it out if I’m likely going to be upgrading to another projector. That’s why I clearly made it known up front about this so that it doesn’t appear that I’m trying to be shady with this comparison LOL. If you want to spring for the new lamp, I’m certainly willing to compare them with a new bulb 😀

[@Alan-megan]

A 2000hrs globe projector vs a 0hr projector?? This has to be one of the worst video demos that I have seen. I recently projected some 1080P HD content on a 5m diagonal screen on commercial grade HD Barco projector and the pixels was less than 1mm when looking at 30cm distance from wall. Watching at a distance of 5m, I would need to recalibrate my eyes with lasik and laser and still wouldn't be able to see any pixels..... Bottom line 1080P rocks with a good projector!!

[@Youthman]

Sorry but 1080p is terrible on a 150” image from my 9’ viewing distance.

[@Alan-megan]

@@Youthman Change your projector bro or perhaps try changing them 2000hr globe.

[@Youthman]

I did. You are replying to a four year old video. I have a JVC NX7 in my theater and it looks incredible.

[@Alan-megan]

@@Youthman Some audiophiles proclaim they have "golden ears". They hear things we mortals can't. In this case you seem to have in possession of what we might call "golden eyes" or perhaps "God's eyes". Congrats 👏👏

[@Youthman]

I would not consider myself an audiophile nor do I feel I have God’s eyes, although my eyes were designed by God. Take care.

[@farmerjoe8169]

Wow. What a difference

[@Youthman]

Yeah I was surprised

[@SinhVTruong]

You should put in the description that the panny was out of focus or take this video down. This whole setup is f'd. Shit comparison fabbed to make the sponsors happy.

[@Youthman]

Go watch the other videos. My integrity and reputation mean more to me than any Sponsored Video. It has been suggested that I should calibrate both projectors (which is a good idea). If it bothers you that my older Panasonic doesn’t look as good as an Epson with newer technology, I’m not sure what to tell you. Thanks for watching.

[@davidbaldwin3407]

No Way this is a fair comparison. Panasonic is out of focus. I don't own either, but this is a dumb comparison. Is there a piece of glass between the Panasonic projector lens and the screen? I can't tell, but if there is, that is also likely adding distortion to the image. I'm not saying the Epson isn't better, I don't know, but this test is meaningless. I also feel bad for you if you have been watching your Panasonic projector all this time when it looks like that becasue it looks like complete crap.

[@Youthman]

No glass in front of the Panasonic. It’s an open window. You are correct, see my other two videos for my explanation on why the image was out of focus.

[@kaifa76]

in its first 100 hrs a new bulb loses a remarkable amount of lumen

[@Youthman]

Really? I didn’t know that. Interesting

[@kaifa76]

Youthman that’s why is useless to calibrate a projector when the bulb is brand new, the light emission stabilizes after 100-150 hours and then for 70-80% of the bulb’s life.

[@Youthman]

Good to know thanks 😀