4K Epson 6050Ub /Tw9400 VS Native 4K JVC RS1000/ NX5 Comparison & DEMO

4K Epson 6050Ub /Tw9400 VS Native 4K JVC RS1000/ NX5 Comparison & DEMO TIMESTAMPS: SPECS / Comparison Perameters 0:00
JVC / Epson Comparison 3:53
My Thoughts 10:48
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[@hamzaibrahim2759]

Hi, I would like to know if a Ceiling mounted Epson 6050 UB can project at a distance of 8.5m ( 27.8ft ) onto a 150" screen of 16:9 ratio without too much hassle in adjustment or focus and also if i will be loosing anything by having the projector that far from the screen. Thx

[@MikesLife87]

Awesome. Thank you. Much appreciated. So I have the Epson Pro Cinema 6040ub. I bought it used and haven’t tried it yet. Compared to your epson, is there much of a difference? I also have the JVC DLA X500RBU. Which one would your prefer in your opinion?

[@benjithx]

How did you get your JVC to see all inputs and not cut out with your RMC1?Worked flawlessly with my 5040ub, but am now having issues with the nx7.

[@MrJimmyBananas]

This is an amazing video, thank you so much for taking the time to do this man 🙌

[@lawrence09151]

Just bought a refurb Epson Home Cinema 2100 for $399. Blown away. Bulb had 2 hours on it. Practically new. I can’t believe a projector can look this good. Put my 50in in bedroom. Can’t believe I went so long without a pj bc I thought it would look like crap and washed out such as in the stores, even in dark store room.

[@antoinebyrd9278]

Hope all is well man with you and the fam! Great vid.

[@char8843]

Hi obviously a few people in the comments have/ use this projector. How do you think it compares to the LG cinebeam AU810PW?

[@xfsrg]

Epson wins on overall brightness but JVC had the more accurate and detailed looking picture. JVC is 5999 retail and under 5k from a dealer (even 4500 or less). Also, I've seen tests that show JVC latency to be around 40ms. Can you share the JVC settings - lamp, color, etc.?

[@saubriz]

How I missed this review before, idk 😐 Thanks for the video dude 😃

[@donhensley403]

Did you choose the nx7 over the 6050?. In one of zack's videos comparing the nx7 to another projector you said "I'm in trouble". I am trying to decide if I want to spend the extra cash on the JVC in this crisis we are having.

[@videotimestampsbrowserexte8828]

Great review! Indexed the timestamps in the video timestamps search engine!

[@adriantorres1106]

I have Epson 5040 ub,no complaints..plus I like when you finished watching a movie shut it down the lens gets covered and I like that,I hate dust but we live by it..but if you could afford a 6 thousand dollar projector you hope for the best.

[@badpuppy3]

Epson’s e-Shift technology actually results in 4 million unique pixels on the screen. It doesn’t just show the same 1080p image twice shifted diagonally, but resolves different image detail in each shift...it’s like a checkerboard interlacing.

[@georgepopescu1327]

make ir 6 million as a while ago Epson got a new driver for 3X eshift :)

[@keepitshema]

@@georgepopescu1327firmware update will do that?

[@DivineAV]

Good video bro. That opening statement was a better rap than that Eminem Godzilla song! Just popped a couple 6050ub units in. Brightness is a plus.

[@TRmusicProductions]

was the p3 filter engaged on epson?

[@FlintingSun]

Would it make sense to get 9400 and a bunch of oem lamps in 2024? I am asking as from what I have been researching nothing up to 2.5k $/€ matches 9400’s cinematic performance. I don’t want to make a costly mistake. My budget is limited to 2k and would stretch to 2.5 if it matched 9400 ( I actually seen for myself how amazing it is). My room is light controlled, 3.5x4m plus.

[@ExLondoner]

Wow that Epson 6050 looks amazing! I have owned a JVC RS45 since 2012 and almost ordered the RS1000 today, budget not an issue. Now thinking of going with the 6050. My room is dedicated, standalone not windows.

[@infinity999123]

So, did you buy one? I have an RS45 too, since 2013. I ordered a refurb 5040UB for $1500. I'm hoping it's black levels are close to that old JVC. I doubt they will be, but I can hope.

[@Griefussy]

@@infinity999123 was it?

[@infinity999123]

@@Griefussy Nope not as good, but acceptable. JVC is the king in that area.

[@alanchan8205]

What was JVC and Epson mode at display? Can the Epson 6050UB adjust the color contrast to match the JVC? Since the Epson is much brighter it has much more to play with compared to JVC limited lumens?

[@demonreturns4336]

It’s like asking if you can adjust your LCD to match the contrast of an OLED Sure there are things you can do to improve picture quality of an LCD but will it truly ever look like exactly like an OLED... no The JVC already starts out having a higher native contrast ratio than the Epson so.... 🤷‍♂️

[@rhdtv2002]

JVC came in nicely..I think there is some Gamma issue with Epson not completely critical to the eye but it's what I see..

[@ChristianBungert]

Gamma and Colours drift and need to be corrected time and time again (professional calibration). This counts for jvc and sony..

[@byronquinley1400]

Solid video. Did you ever make any more videos on the 6050? Would love to see it compared to the LS12000. Thanks!

[@Bradmcdonnell]

Thanks for the comparison review... 👍👍

[@r3nattooo]

Great video, thanks!

[@yogi9631]

Great demo mate 👍👍👍 Both looked very good. But if to choose, I choose the Epson, it just had a little more brightness to it. I prefer bright colour scenes vs dark etc. Also the Epson had a little more details trading off it's darkness vs JVC I subscribed

[@keepingupwiththejones2933]

Welcome back my man. I hope you, your wife and your little man are healthy and safe. In the beginning you mention updating the firmware to get the auto tone mapping. I know you know this and meant to say dynamic tone mapping. But I am sure someone is going to call you out on it.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

www.google.com/search?q=auto+tone+mapping&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS826US826&oq=auto+tone+mapp&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57j0l2.3847j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 I said what I said :)

[@keepingupwiththejones2933]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude LOL. I hear ya. JVC has made a big deal out of not calling it "auto", because that is what everyone else has on their projectors. When this 4K line was introduced it had "auto" tone mapping. Then the firmware update in October 2019 added the "dynamic" tone mapping. Obviously both types automatically adjust the HDR tone mapping. Dynamic adjusts continuously throughout the content, whereas the auto only does it once at the beginning . So auto is a static tone mapping They should have just called it static instead of auto. So you are not wrong. LOL. You did an excellent job of explaining what the tone mapping does towards the end of the video. Thanks for the video. God bless. www.soundandvision.com/content/hands-jvc-s-dynamic-tone-mapping-update

[@billcozad7295]

Can anyone help me out with zone 2 setup on a Denon avr-x1400h? I'm completely lost.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

hook up what you want on zone 2. power on zone 2 and control it that way..

[@SuperBloodyskull]

Both machines are very impressive, have the Epson and seen the JVC. Personally the performance difference doesn't justify the price difference, the JVC is better but it's more marginal than you'd think. Blacks are the main difference but in my case I bought a grey screen and now the difference in blacks aren't nearly that big as the Epson have lumens to spare.

[@aPlateOfGrapes]

So, the Epson 5050 (which is the same as the 6050, minus the extra lamp and mounting bracket) can be had for about $2500-2700 USD, so about HALF the cost of the JVC.

[@Sinier940n]

The JVC goes for 6k, so more then 2x the price.

[@aaronao1]

can you do another comparison please? side by side?

[@Huntmx24]

Jvc is 5999 on the website but from dealers I think you can get it for like 4800-5200. I have one and love it!

[@percybedford6266]

Ben Anderson do you have any dealers you can recommend? I am looking to upgrade from my JVC X35.

[@Huntmx24]

@@percybedford6266 I can't remember the names. Check on avs forums

[@percybedford6266]

@@Huntmx24 cool will do.

[@toddroy9558]

I bought a Black Screen, how well will the 6050 do on a black screen?

[@d12zrk]

I ordered a Epson 6050 through Dream media and got it a few days ago just waiting for my black diamond zero edge screen to get here...lol.

[@rhdtv2002]

Good luck man..that's a cool setup..hope you enjoy it

[@OGCJ10]

How do you like that setup ? Anything you would do differently ?

[@d12zrk]

@@OGCJ10 Nope! It's Amazing!

[@brandonkuehl6711]

Does anyone know if certified dealers can get/sell the JVC NX5 for below MSRP? In the market for one.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

yes, you just have to be sure they are authorized dealers. They cant put prices lower than MAP on any ADVERTISEMENT or publication

[@Piranhabites]

from where you got the demo movie? Download link?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

imax enhanced demo disk

[@robertoval3688]

Welcome back!!

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Thanks Roberto :)

[@truhunk1]

The comparisons were difficult to know the difference because they were different pictures shown. They weren't side by side comparisons.

[@RajeshGupta-zr4hn]

Epson 6050 is better choice over optoma 6050/ 58sa ???

[@RobySkariah]

Curious as I am between Epson 6050 and JVC X5. JVC is a true 4K and Epson is not. But I heard when it comes to contrast ratio, 1.2 mil : 1 for Epson, compared to 400K:1 for JVC. Does it matter? Or the true 4K gives better picture ?

[@yogi9631]

People seems to be too obsessed with contrast ratios and specs. Most of these specs are just for purely marketing. Best specs are your own eyes.

[@garypranzo9334]

Epson, Lens memory and auto lens hood, You never have to touch the projector after you install it except changing filter and bulb.

[@datka3]

Have Epson 5050 and love it , actually preferred Epson over JVC

[@RobySkariah]

Why do you prefer Epson over JVC? Curious as I am between Epson 6050 and JVC X5. JVC is a true 4K and Epson is not. But I heard when it comes to contrast ratio, 1.2 mil : 1 for Epson, compared to 400K:1 for JVC. Does it matter? Or the true 4K gives better picture ?

[@abu1950]

@@RobySkariah The JVC would have.a much better black level if that is what you want

[@shamimulhasan3287]

Very well conducted review. Balanced analysis. I am a big fan of JVC. At present I own DILA X55. However in these videos, Epson is the clear winner.

[@jccohen9923]

Would anyone know if 3D movies on the JVC would be far better with more of a POP out compared to the Epson?

[@car103d]

JC cohen What you need more for 3D is brightness, pop in 3d is stereoscopy which is infinitely better than contrast, of course it depends on the 3d quality of the movie itself, if it is a poor conversion or a good one, or native 3d with the right baseline and other technical aspects of 3d.

[@georgepopescu1327]

They should be close writing in 3D. For a stellar 3d experience you should try dual projectors, like using two of those Epsons together.

[@Davek2sb]

I know with my epson it looks a lot better with the gamma set to -2. Having one of the new Panasonic players with hdr optimizer also really helps the epson.

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[@optimusprime1634]

Enjoyed the review. I think the 6050 is a terrific projector all around and competes well with the native 4K. The JVC, I would go with the RS2000 for the extra lumens. Dealer price for the RS2000 is between 6500-7500 but i have seen it cheaper. What do you think of the Sony 695ES?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

i have the rs2000 to play around with too. Im going to add it to the system until I get another projector in 2020

[@Espiritiv]

Time for a epson pro cinema ls12000 vs jvc nz7 side by side comparison please

[@Anders-Falt]

Hey I'm very surprised that you liked the HDR on Epson better compared to the JVC. I thought that the JVC:s autotone mapping and the high contrast panels would have given better HDR. Maybe it's has to be with that Epson has the DCI P3 filter in it and the NX5 doesn't. But i thought that the JVC would excel in HDR.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

the overall image looks incredible, but the hdr is dimmer. its not a bad unit at all. Plenty of things the jvc does better than the JVC

[@Anders-Falt]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Thank you for the answer

[@graczmisiek4131]

Without dedicated cinema room there's no better projector than 9400. I went through 4 projectors so far. The previous one was 9300 which I also loved but it's had some problems with colors(blue was kind of purple), and no 4k HDR in 60fps. With 9400 they really fixed the colors, made it even brighter, added 4k HDR in 60fps(I use it for gaming) and black is black(even if half screen is totally white the other half is still perfectly black). The brightness it offers really makes a difference during the day. I'm currently in my living room, during the day with white walls and can still see. At night all nice and quiet in eco mode and HDR is amazing. Also it's possible sometimes to find it on ebay for ~$2000 which is a steal for this quality.

[@sephirothcld4520]

Quick question, I have the Epson 9300 and was wondering what difference you noticed when you got the 9400? How are the black levels (most important quality in a projector for me) and how is the overall picture quality difference. Would you recommend the 9400 if coming from the 9300. I have a dedicated bat cave and a grey screen.

[@graczmisiek4131]

@@sephirothcld4520 9400 is brighter with the same lightbulb installed(I swapped to see the difference), black levels are similar to 9300's, still not perfect but I'm using a white wall. I used to have a grey screen and with it black levels would be just perfect for my taste. I doubt there's any reasonable alternative in this price range and I wouldn't switch to native 4k if it would cost sacrificing the contrast. The colors are different than 9300, definitely warmer and more natural. Unlike 9300 9400 works in 60hz with 4k and HDR which is important for games and I use it as my computer monitor. Now I'm just above 2000 hours in and love it. Unlike with 9300 I never use high lamp mode as eco is bright enough in the evening.

[@sephirothcld4520]

@@graczmisiek4131 Thanks for the prompt answer, I really love the Tw9300, best projector I have ever owned and I use to have some JVCs before. It just punches way above it's price range and in my version the wireless connection is god sent. I am a bit exited about the new laser projector from Epson and I might upgrade to that one day.

[@graczmisiek4131]

​@@sephirothcld4520 I also really liked my 9300. Buying the same, but upgraded model instead of trying something new tells a lot. I'm also looking forward to try i.e. 12000B one day but for now I'm very happy with 9400

[@jwd0808]

Great comparison. I have the 5040Ub and with some minor gamma tweaks it looks almost as good as the 6050. I was seriously looking at he JVC, but at only 1,900 lumens, the price cannot be justified. I, like many, don't have a dedicated theatre room. I like to leave a dim back light coming from my kitchen while watching movies, and the Epson performs extremely well in that scenario. Comparing apples to apples lumen-wise, JCV does not bump up the lumens to something decent unless you shell out another 4k, and then it's only 2,200. Sticking with my 5040... For now :)

[@kevinhenderson5400]

I have owned the Epson and upgraded to JVC NX7. JVC wins hands down. I thought my Epson was amazing until I made the change. JVC has a better picture, and the black levels blow Epson away. Epson is a great projector for the price no doubt!

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Yes the rs2000/ nx7 is better than the epson 6050. the Nx5 / rs1000 in this video has some short comings in comparison

[@shanefish3391]

I have a Epson 6040 I’m happy with it. But always looking to upgrade. I’ll Probably wait till the Epson 6060 comes out. On a side note which fiber optic HDMI cable do you use? I think I’ll start there since I have 20 foot run threw the walls. Thanks 😊

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

ruipro4k/8k and monoprice fiber. all three work great!

[@shanefish3391]

That Home Theater Dude Awesome Appreciate it. 😎

[@jayw4098]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Love your review! My question is do uand do u think there is a big difference between rs2000 vs rs1000 and do you think the difference is justified was really impressed with laser jvc also.

[@elipolancojr3219]

Bro another great video. Always enjoy your content. I do have a question for you bro. I have the Epson 5040 and a Denon 4400 I can not get my Roku ultra to display 4k on Disney+ do you know anything about this? Again great video bro keep them coming 👍.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

there is a setting on the denon 4400. You have to turn it from standard mode to enhanced to accept the full 4k 4:4:4 18gb signal

[@elipolancojr3219]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude ya I have that setting on already. Thanks bro if you hear anything let me know pls.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

@@elipolancojr3219 check your cables bro

[@elipolancojr3219]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude I went to best but and got their sky cable and same thing. Should I try a fiber HDMI cable?

[@keepingupwiththejones2933]

@@elipolancojr3219 Check the EDID setting on your Epson . Should be set to expanded. Also make sure under settings>display type you have selected Auto detect. The 5040 is only capable of 10GBPS. The 5050/6050 is capable of 18GBPS. The issue could be that Disney+ will only stream 4k HDR at 60Hz/fps whereas the 5040 is only capable of accepting 4K HDR at 30Hz/fps so Disney+ won't send the 4K HDR signal because it detects that your display isn't capable of 4K/60. Hope that helps. Fiber optic doesn't sound like a solution in your situation.

[@tysoncurrie7745]

I like the brightness of the Epson, but love the darker colors in the JVC, also the white looks a little better in the JVC then the Epson. It's hard to pick, they are both really good projectors. I don't think it is worth the pig price difference to jump to the JVC though, if they price was the same I might get the JVC

[@kratoslostson3427]

Hi :) 2 question for you. What are your favorite Dolby atmos movies? How often do you watch movies?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

john wick 3 is probably the best atmos movie right now. I watch movies at full volume roughly 1-2x week. This is our TV now so we use it daily to watch sports, Tv or whatever

[@kratoslostson3427]

That Home Theater Dude John wick 3? I have to check it out, I’m ordering it from Best Buy rn. Thanks! 😀

[@LifeSized101]

Jvc vs my JVC DLAX3W $9000 AUD and no motorized lense cover

[@teolong2631]

I have mixed feelings here; For Picture Quality I loved the Epson (my eyes have always been attracted more towards brightness) but If you are reading text/caption or subtitled foreign movies the JVC is the best I've seen a projector handle text

[@shaolin95]

You can judge quality with a video like this. I mean if you do then the EPSON is terrible as the is tons of white clipping and lack of contact in comparison to the jvc

[@KOrnhOliO1]

@@shaolin95 Just all depends on which mode the reviewer displayed the images in. All adjustable from the remote too! It has a 16 step HDR adjustment, and many others, that can be popped up with one click and fined tuned to each show you are watching WITHOUT going into menus. Simple, and 5 seconds to adjust!!! ;)

[@godfather1116]

Are you upgrading? Keeping the JVC and selling the Epson?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

keeping A JVC not this one tho :)

[@godfather1116]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude NX7

[@glensome]

That Home Theater Dude please let me know when you are selling that 6050 😁

[@jadan2000]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude would love to know which JVC you are replacing with your 6050.

[@FamilyHomeTheater]

I have a blacked out theater, so Id go with the JVC for its lower black levels. I also plan to game on it, and as I understand there is more of a noticeable difference gaming in native 4k vs 4k enhancement. ID like to get the NX7... But I dont think I can get the higher price approved by my wife... The Epson looked like it had a red push... Nothing a calibration couldn't take care of.

[@ChristianBungert]

JVC and Sony need work to be done since the picture quality changes with time.

[@bs11100010]

The jvc doesn't even have the 100% dci p3 color space like the epson with the Color filter in place. Confused why you thought the JVC had better color. probably just calibration and settings?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

not many projectors do recreate 100% dci. The rs2000 is supposed to with its color filter but the measurements from a third party didnt match the advertisement

[@alford35]

JVC by miles and miles!!! Their contrast is just so so hard to beat and the side by side shows that along with true color and tone mapping.

[@georgepopescu1327]

actualy the contrast of JVC native 4k's is outclassed by JVC eshiefters which, oddly had better blacks and higher native contrast :)

[@shaolin95]

@@georgepopescu1327 yep... Which is why I will keep my rs520 until the 4k ones can match the generation. I mean, they are still the king but I want an upgrade without compromises

[@BandyAir]

@@shaolin95 since I sold my X9500 no projector can satisfy me, not even the new N range.

[@nohandsman8475]

I’m guessing you have a jvc. Because the espon looks just as good or better because of brightness. Jvc looks like I’m watching life on a cloudy rainy day. I don’t even own a projector yet. And for the price of the espon. Definitely plays a factor in picture quality.

[@Davek2sb]

What picture preset did you use on the epson?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

calibrated files for 4k hdr and 1080p

[@ChristianBungert]

Got the 6050 now and..other than this Video showing: black levels kinda suck! It was a contrast/black floor boosting screen here?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

heh? epson arent know for their inky black levels. they do a great job compared to most.

[@ChristianBungert]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Sorry, didn't meant to be rude: I know, that's what makes me wonder when i saw several tests and comparison- videos: You see almost no difference, both projectors looked comparable/equal. But then again, it's ~6000:1 Epson vs 40000:1 on the JVC . I saw x5900 with 40K contrast in person and i wasn't impressed either i admit 😅

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

hmm. There is a difference for sure. The sharpness is a factor and the color pop and accuracy is too. the JVC dominates on black levels and tone mapping. Again, these arent really competitors because of the price disparity and completely different structures. Either ways the epson is a tremendous value

[@ChristianBungert]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Will a contrast boosting screen work even in a dark home cinema? To lower/better the black floor of the Epson? Thanks in advance 🙂

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

yes. but some grey screens may not do 4k so pay attention when you are ordering

[@TheaterAtReference]

I'm a JVC fan but for the price I'll take the Epson. The Epson is brighter but the colors are off with a "neon" like appearance. JVC wins in contrast but being less bright makes scenes look dull at times as if you're seeing the image through a tint film.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

good input :)

[@tonyworrell6059]

great video I take the Epson all day

[@EliasJRosario]

Color, clarity, and motion quality is most important to me. Therefore, JVC it is. Thanks for the comparison.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

No way I'd pay DOUBLE for the JVC over the Epson 5050ub, which is virtually identical to the 6050ub. Just not enough of a difference to warrant double the price!

[@dbzdeath]

@@KOrnhOliO1 “just not enough of the difference” when you can clearly see that epson looks blown out and the colours are washed out in comparison to the jvc

[@KOrnhOliO1]

@@dbzdeath Blown out? Colors are washed out? Dude?!!! Those are all adjustments that you as an owner of an Epson projector can make! I can easily make my colors look so more over saturated if I want to. I can easily make it look just the opposite of blown out. Or, in both case DIALED IN TO YOUR OWN INDIVIDUAL PREFERENCE. These are parameters WE as owners can control. No tuning is perfect for each and every user. It's all each of our opinion as to what is best for the individual. But, those parameters are easily adjusted! If I want my 5050ub to look exactly like what the JVC IS TUNED TO, I can do it! Sure, maybe it will get to just 95, or 98% as good as what you think the JVC is, but I can tune my 5050ub to look as close as can be to what the JVC looks like in this video! It may NOT get to 100% the same. BUT, I can buy TWO or more of the 5050ub for the price of the JVC. I paid $2299.00 for my 5050ub direct from Epson. Epson gives a 2 year essentially an "over the counter exchange!" You call them, they trouble shoot your issue, and if they can't fix it over the phone, they send you another projector. You get it in 2 or 3 days - Yes, they 2nd day air it to you! Then you takes yours and put it in that box the unit they sent you came in, and send it back - shipping PREPAID! It cost nothing! So, when I saw that their refurb units came with the same damn warranty, I bought the refurb, which I have done before, and had no issues with at all! A refurb is a unit that had an issue (some, there's nothing wrong at all they simply couldn't troubleshoot it over the phone!) and went back to the factory and the techs went completely through it and test everything to make sure it passes quality control. Then it is available to buy, at a discount of $700 BUCKS! Well, since I can still send mine back if it has an issue, just like a new one, I said WHY PAY $700 more FOR A NEW ONE! Going through quality control a second time is not a bad thing! It's actually a great thing! Like my other Epson projector, It's been perfect from day one, and I couldn't tell the difference between it and a new projector - not a single scuff or blemish or degradation in picture quality! So, you go ahead and spend for the JVC, and I'll sit back and enjoy my hundreds and hundreds of dollars I $aved! And, I got around 98% of the performance of the JVC....and I couldn't care less that the JVC might be 2 or even 5% better, even 10%! If perfectionists want to pay more, SO BE IT! I don't care!!!!!!!!!!!b It's certainly soooooo damn close, it's not even close to worth buying the JVC to me! Being that I was in the consumer electronics industry for well over 35 YEARS and sold both Epson and JVC, I know FROM EXPERIENCE that Epson products are FAR MORE RELIABLE and DURABLE than JVC products. JVC I would rated as very good reliability and quality. But, EPSON IS KING OF QUALITY, design, performance for the buck, and overall VALUE!!!!!!! FACT! :)

[@dbzdeath]

@@KOrnhOliO1 “I ain’t reading all that, i am happy for you though or sorry that happened”

[@The.Home.Cinema.Engineer]

I feel like the JVC has better color but barely. and the Epson is a little to bright but that can be bumped down and look great without hot spotting. Black levels look the same on both at least by video comparison in person maybe different.

[@luigy39]

The only winner here is Epson. Comparing the Epson 6050UB, which is basically a 5050UB that can be bought for around $2,500 to the JVC RS1000 which sells for $6,000 is a testament to the picture quality of the Epson projector at a killer price. Does the JVC unit throw a better picture? it better do my friend, because they are charging you for the difference. I also understand that the demo you choose was for copyright issues, but it sucks, as it shows fake comparisons, which are always inaccurate and inappropriate to compare 2 projectors, not to mention seeing this over youtube and through the lens of your camera. having said that I appreciate the effort you make to inform as best you can about the differences of these projectors, especially to those of us who are trying to make up our minds on which projector to buy.

[@everythinggamer4615]

The epson actually overexposes the detail which is very bad on HDR scenes. The JVC beats the epson in my opinion. Btw great vid👍

[@vhockada]

Not good to have a bias from the jump. Just as you claim Epson overexposed, the JVC underexposes and loses detail in the darker scenes. Epson absolutely wins. And cheaper.

[@dbzdeath]

@@vhockada if you have eyes which i am guessing you don’t, the jvc maintains all the shadow details and is much sharper, has much better colours and excellent black levels. The epson looks dogshit in comparison to that

[@tkcdac]

I am a brightness guy..... Ugg.. maybe I have poor man's taste, but the Epson? lol.

[@georgepopescu1327]

if the room is pitch black, you won't need very much light output

[@Boots3962]

I had the Sony 270es, took it back and got the epson for that exact reason, the brightness is great on the epson

[@peterwood2633]

@@Boots3962 hi I'm close to ordering a 9400 with my dealer. Really really thought about the 270 but close to double the money in the UK. You still happy with your switch? You find motion is ok? That's a big concern of mine

[@Boots3962]

@@peterwood2633 yea mate super happy, especially what you get for the price, in fact I'm now only ever going to get epson

[@peterwood2633]

@@Boots3962 my dealer said 270es on high lamp is noisy compared to my Hw40es which I can run on high and tis acceptable.

[@cmnhl1329]

JVC: ‘no need for lens cap. You should be watching 24/7’

[@toddkrueger1585]

Seems to me like the EPSON was a little too bright as to wash out some of the color detail, Or it doesn’t have the detail of the JVC regardless. Thank you for taking the time of this video creation is helped in my decision. JVC.

[@Heart0rHead]

It's a camera problem. We have two PJs with different lumen output (brighness). The camera is not a human eye. When taking a picture you can set the aperture (how much light comes in) at a fixed position. So, in this case you have to choose: one of the projectors will be too bright (overexposed) or to dark (underexposed). One would have to lumen match the PJ to be able to take a good comparison photo. Or make two photos/videos idependently with different camera settings and stich them in post production but that could be acused of falsifying the reality.

[@racecrashrepeat]

Love it... The JVC HDR frame adapt is a game changer. It corrects itself of every frame or per scene. The Epson has the better HDR. Wtf that doesn't even make sense.

[@keepingupwiththejones2933]

More detail in the spectral highlights with the JVC. Like the big Rock Pillar in the ocean on the IMAX enhanced demo scene. Much more detail on the rock on the JVC

[@fooschnickens]

Agreed, much better contrast control on the JVC. You could see much more definition in the sections of the sofa during the 'white room' bits as well. But, for a several grand price gap, I would hope there would be a noticeable difference in the two. That said, they both perform admirably and would satisfy users at either price point.

[@dirk5044]

@@fooschnickens JVC's rarely sell for MSRP, unless you go through Brick n Mortar like Best Buy. Through an authorized dealer, there isn't a big price gap.

[@chandan6119]

the camera is exposed for jvc so high brightness scenes in epson looks like it is blown out.

[@keving.5295]

@@dirk5044 According to all the authorized dealers I've talked to they are not allowed to sell the JVC projectors at a discount. And JVC says there are no authorized online dealers. All brick and mortar. I almost bought from a dealer selling off the Walmart website to save a couple thousand. I'm glad I didn't. If there was a problem with the projector the restocking fee was between 20-50%. Also the warranty is likely not honored. JVC also claims that these unauthorized dealers also will often sell refurbs and claim it's new.

[@keepingupwiththejones2933]

@@keving.5295 Authorized dealers you with which you communicated lied to your face. Authorized dealers can sell JVC projectors for whatever price point they decide. Authorized dealers cannot advertise anything other than MSRP. JVC projectors typically sell for 25% discount from MSRP. You can find bigger discounts.

[@danielwander605]

I have the JVC and mine definitely is a step up from whats shown here. Especially in the HDR. This doesnt look as good as what ive seen. I think its an issue of not being calibrated. And the Epson looks blown out and loses a lot of detail in some of these scenes, which also doesnt seem right to me. I know the JVC has better detail but I dont think the Epson should look as blown out as it does here. This is another comparison of these two projector series which can also be helpful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4bVoHaobKanetE Its a lot longer, and extremely detailed so can be tough to sit through. That Home Theater Dudes video above highlights the major differences for the most part, so the linked video just goes into more detail and I think really shows off the best of both projectors which may be missing in this video. In the end, cant go wrong either way

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

what was on the video and whats in person are different. I made my commentary without seeing the filmed footage. The comments were of me watching and comparing in person. The camera exposure was hard to nail which showed both in the best scenario. The camera settings werent changed between clips for integrity

[@danielwander605]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude I guess that begs the question...

[@timsalthouse4329]

thanks for trying but really cant agree with any of your conclusions and I have owned an Epson 9300 and a JVC N5 the native contrast of the Epson models is like 6,000 to 1 there is a marked difference in detail on 4k material with no image noise on the JVC as to HDR I really couldn't disagree more - your Epson clips had no detail at all in the spectral highlights and were completely blown out with no detail at all

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

I said the epson was better on HDR, i didnt say it had better contrast. the jvc has better contrast for sure

[@timsalthouse4329]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude sorry but in what way? I have spent 2500 hours on an Epson and 900 hours on an N5 and HDR is not comparable. are you using the P3 filter on the Epson in your videos? I am not alone in pointing out that all of your Epson footage is very overblown so you have lost all detail in the highlights. what were the settings under frame adapt hdr on the jvc.

[@chandan6119]

the camera is exposed for jvc so high brightness scenes in epson looks like it is blown out.

[@G1lgamesj]

@@timsalthouse4329 Do you really need the P3 filter? I think Natural setting looks better on the Epson. I can't get my Epson bright enough in the digital cinema mode :/

[@demonreturns4336]

This dude is really here arguing that the Epson is being unfairly untreated? If you like the Epson that’s fine but it doesn’t compare contrast wise to the JVC When highlights get overblown it’s because it finest have a high enough contrast to resolve details in the darker areas like the JVC does and you can CLEARLY see that in the side by side comparison I have an Epson 6050 and would’ve loved to have the JVC after seeing it at a friend’s house but just don’t have that kind of $$ to be spending on something like that right now when Epson is “good enough”

[@jordanebner8476]

You really can't tell which is the best by video. I have a VPL 675ES and it blows the Epson 5040ub out of the water but if I recorded it on a video you would not be able to tell.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

right...

[@masonvanmeurs6683]

So my question is why the Epson is advertised as a 4k projector if it's not actually 4k

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

it doesnt look like a 1080p projector

[@housbinpharteen7445]

Epson all the way unless your pocket is deep, for half the price i will take the epson, its not like mind blowing difference , hell i only have a 1080p epson and i love it! when you do not have anything to compare it to it always looks amazing.

[@demonreturns4336]

You can say that about ANY thing in life though I mean whatever girl you’re with looks beautiful until you see a supermodel chick Someone some where right now in a remote village who’s never seen a HDTV probably thinks his 480p TV is the best thing out there It’s clear that the JVC is in a different class than the Epson but if you can’t afford one due to the higher price then the Epson is ‘good enough’ for what it can do as well

[@Luminated67]

What you see in the video isn’t realistic because the camera will be set to one level and as you can see one looks very bright and the other a bit dull, your eyes will adjust for this. Contrast will always boost colours so I would expect the JVC to pop more but when both are calibrated then colours should look similar.

[@ruialmeida6679]

Why not EPSON LS 10500?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

cause money?

[@shaolin95]

JVC has no competition... They are on another league. The EPSON is just outclassed

[@dennypewsey6683]

I notice the Epson whites were blown out in some bright scenes. For my viewing I definitely liked the JVC better and would pay the extra cost for the richer looking image JVC projects. And yes, I could easily tell the difference before you revealed which was playing.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

yeah, i can see that in the vid. It was not like that when I filmed it. Its hard getting camera settings that work for both. if i were to drop the aperture then it would have made the jvc even darker. Either way, both are great, the eppie is better for family rooms like mine and the jvc is best in a cave

[@chandan6119]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude you have exposed the camera for jvc,so it clips anything above that brightness,good test would be to expose for epson's highlights.

[@5lexicon]

Jvc wins hands down,a lot of people want too much brightness, Jvc looks the most natural out of most projectors. Cheers.

[@sephiroth4543]

What do you mean too much brightness brightness is very important for hdr. The JVC is too expensive for what it is. I am a guy who paid a lot of money for my car (because it was worth it for the features I got in return) but sometimes you have to be reasonable JVC projectors are almost always too expensive for what you get even if their black level is great (I care about black level a lot) their brightness is always on the lower end. I paid a lot for my JVC x5000 a while back and when I checked the quality of the Epson TW9300 at my friends Richer Sounds store I didn't see a projector that is 2x worse than my X5000. Although my projector is a little old I believe the Epson tw9400 or 9300 is the best bang for the buck projector there is unless you like laser. Another issue was I didn't even get an auto lens cover for that price on my X5000. Listen I generally use to love JVC projectors due to their black level but there are many projectors that can deliver good black levels now. My first JVC was the HD350 then I moved on to the x5000. In my opinion they are not worth the premium over something like an Epson 9300 and that is the truth. There are some people that spent a lot of money on their JVC and will always say stuff to protect their "expensive projector" so that they can justify the money they spent. I know the Epson is faux 4k but it's difficult to tell the difference from almost any seating distance. These N5/7 JVC projectors would have been insane if their brightness was around the 2500 lumens mark for something like that JVC would probably ask for £30k 🙄

[@yogi9631]

@@sephiroth4543 Spot on Bro !! 👍👍👍 People do have some slight bias in order to justify the extra $$$ spent (almost double in this case). Human psychology 101.

[@dirk5044]

I have had the JVC RS1000 for a few weeks now, and it's an amazing PJ. Just in this comparison, the JVC looks more detailed and the contrast is noticeable, while the Epson looks blown out. Look at how much detail is lost in the NASA astronaut suit on the Epson.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Dirk504 good input. The camera settings were a nightmare to get right. In person it was less bright than the video showed. Getting the right aperture and exposure was very difficult that showed both in their correct light. Overall I really liked the jvc but it was just a little too dark for my liking.

[@timsalthouse4329]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude I appreciate why but without knowing what the HDR settings you were using on each PJ it is a bit impossible to decide whether you had this right. if you had the Epson colour filter in place then there is no way it is brighter than the JVC on HDR

[@yogi9631]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Indeed!!! Just a touch too dark on the JVC, highlighted in shadow details in helicopter scene. Almost like the Pioneer Kuro vs the best of Panasonic plasma battle. Kuro won the blacks but Panasonic won the shadow details IMHO.

[@bamlin52]

Epsoms better value for money. My choice. I have the 5350 1080p projector £585.00.still happy with it. I have also a LG 55 4k TV. The Epsom still blows it away..

[@patmorestar1]

Epson easy had both

[@SteveSmith-cm1hx]

I would take the JVC all day every day.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Yeah, and it's only double the price of the 6050ub in white which is the 5050ub without the installers stuff. No way I'd pay double for the little if any the JVC gives you.

[@njsven]

I think the epson brightness wins. I have the epson5040 and I’d luvd to upgrade to the new model

[@shaolin95]

Lol did you see all the white clipping and lack of contrast? Anyone can be brighter than way

[@neosmith3633]

I definitely prefer the Epson, hands down.

[@mnevis7568]

Epson for gaming

[@noseonscent1935]

JVC is clearly a big step up in image sharpness, contrast and overall accuracy. Wow!

[@UnLogitech85]

epson burns the image to many scenes...jvc holds the contrast in a better way. so jvc for the win.

[@chandan6119]

its not burning,the camera is exposed for jvc so high brightness scenes in epson looks like it is blown out.

[@kevingrainger2530]

This review started well until the bloody music. No review on the on screen size of the OSD or the colours used, if these machines are disabled friendly for the visually impaired. Distance from screen and the manufacture's backup service. PC lag time.?

[@integra8502]

Look at 9:30 how Blurry people are on JVC compared to epson

[@replayreb]

Yeah but you can't even see the Space Shuttle.

[@anttitauriainen3367]

@@replayreb The space shuttle actually looked better without the imax enhanced on epson. I max just totally blew the bright parts.

[@Heart0rHead]

@@anttitauriainen3367 It's the camera not the IMAX content or projector.

[@andrewtran1596]

Excellent comparison. The Epson clearly looks a lot brighter in most scenes. For the much lower price, the Epson is clearly the winner. Also very funny how the much less expensive and much brighter Epson has the built-in Lens Cover and the much more expensive JVC projectors (even their $18,000 NX9) don't even come with built-in lens cover.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

yeah lens cover is a good idea. i think maybe the DCR lens add on is a reason why its not on there. i could be wrong

[@user-dm4gs1ig7r]

JVC not worth the money . I prefer the Epsom. I still use 1080p Epsom projector. Yes 4k is marginally better but not worth the extra cost. I find 4k is not Cinematic for me . Thanks for the video.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

the rs-2000, which is double the price of the epson shows a bigger departure from the epson. its a great projector

[@LocalRevs]

With all the white walls in this room, the comparison of these two projectors is basically useless. Try the JVC in total light controlled setting (as intended) and then examine your findings.

[@soundguy71.]

Epson all the way!!

[@northzider]

Picture quality is great no doubt when it works, but Epson projectors are garbage now. Would recommend a JVC or Sony. Bought an Epson projector (5040UB) in March 2018, exactly 3 years later I’m on my 5th Epson projector (under warranty). I was upgraded to a 5050UB due to all the failures from the 5040UB. The 5050UB is no different. I’m sure this 5th one will die out on me in a few month. Will buy a JVC then. The older Epson used to be reliable. Not these eshift 4K BS.

[@arungraeff4547]

For me id buy the Epson 6050ub for brightness and 4K enhancement for the price ya really good, and I can just get a screen with a gain!! 👀👀 There JVC looks a little more in focus due to the native 4K but other than that they both are good projectors!!!!

[@xiazoozix2017]

Me too brightness is important to me and price difference is huge

[@ChristianBungert]

Word of Warning- This is for all of you interested in Sony and JVC projectors in comparison to Epson: Both are native 4K and got better image capabilities (for a Period of time): You need to know that both jvc and sony need a good amount of professional calibration-work to be done (1-2 times a year) to MAINTAIN this nice image quality! Sony issues: Colourdrift, gammadrift,shading and continuing contrast lowering (panel degredation )which means colours are more and more "off", gamma:2,4 -> 1,9 too bright, shading: Yellow shades/clouds in White ,contrast: your blacks getting brighter or you get a blue tint -> these last three cant be undone by any calibration! JVC: Colourdrift,shading and Gammadrift: Usually Colours and Gamma an be fixed by calibration. Otherwise some have brightened corners, reflections. So they ARE better but more complex and far away from perfect especially if the pricetag is considered (Writing this as a Sony VW295 user considering switching (back) to Epson ub6050). JVC NX5 and Sony 2xx are barely bright enough for HDR aswell, so you need to step up to NX7/Sony 5XX. Just my opinion and experience.

[@ChristianBungert]

@Vic Vic These aren't issues per se i''d say -it's technically based: low fill rate in fullhd= screen door, Shifting is another noise factor,yes. Black levels: It's LCD so it cant come down that low in black levels. But you got a stable Picture quality, lot more brightness,better blacks than any consumer DLP and so on. JVC maybe got the best projectors in business if one is willing to spend money and time for purchase and in the long run with it's shortcomings (calibration vs drifts, expensive bulbs). There is no perfect projector anyway.

[@bassage13]

Everyone is talking about the price difference, but I don't the commenters realize that the JVC is a 4k projector and the Epson is not. It's a 1080p projector that upscales to 4k, it's fake.