Comparison Test: Ford Mustang GT vs Dodge Challenger Scat Pack | MotorTrend

In this Comparison Test, Jonny Lieberman brings two all-American muscle cars to the Willow Springs Raceway to put put them to the test. It's a tough decision for him, but let's see if the Ford Mustang GT or the Dodge Challenger Scat Pack comes out on top. Get the full story HERE ➡️bit.ly/3QeGAYv
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[@scottsmith31]

“How biased and opinionated do you want this review to be?” Motor trend - “yes”

[@kristoferfc6525]

I feel like he's being fair, considering the Challenger and Camaro are going away, Mustang didn't try all that hard.

[@elektrosmokes1911]

Found the sucker who paid for a '24 Mustang.

[@stevenkraus1679]

What a horrible review he trashes the mustang through the whole video then at the end says it's a better car. I know it's the better I own a 2024 GT.

This guy must own a trash dodge to love that ugly boat.

[@Mike-mh9py]

Same and agree. Horrible review

[@garytownsend9236]

Or it could be that its trash, just slightly better than the challenger

[@joshuaknuckles4594]

Everyone isn’t gonna love the mustang..it’s his opinion

[@itsme-vw5yo]

​@@joshuaknuckles4594 well then don't review it of you don't give both positive And negative thoughts

[@TheMrCristal]

That type of review when one company didn’t pay enough for a review🤣

[@BigInjun05]

Dodge paid him so they could get their final sales before everything sounds like an ecoboost raptor and a hoover vac. 🤣🤣

[@brunobachmann1925]

Clearly😂 the dodge interior looks like it’s from 2006 and there’s a super cheesy “shakedown” sticker on the back lol

[@ramzen1976]

Agree with you 110%

[@kw2519]

Dodge did do a lot of stuff with Roadkill.

[@JU5TAV6]

Bro the new mustangs don’t even make over 400whp. Based off of REAL DYNOS they make less than the S550. So that is a step in the wrong direction in my opinion. I do however disagree with his opinion of the overall design of the exterior. I like it it’s a lover hate thing I think right now in the automotive enthusiast community.

[@drutter005]

Tell me you’re a Mopar fan without telling me you’re a Mopar fan. Lol what a neat Challenger review! 😐

[@banditsixtyfive3900]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎙🔥

[@19hundoc47]

Ya except he said the Mustang is the better car so…….

[@MeMyselfI_69]

Johnny's doing a lot of hating on things most reviewers like about the Mustang lol. The strangest review i have seen in some time

[@YouHaveChangedThorfinn]

real bro the guy just had some bad history with Mustang because I've never seen someone make a review about a car like

[@SiCxNeMeSiS]

Did Ford hurt this guy 😂

[@BigInjun05]

He may not like it, I love it

[@dtrooperVideo]

I own a 2016 Mustang GT with the Roush Phase 2 727HP supercharger with only 8K miles on it, but will all but break my neck to look at just about any Challenger I see. They are just badass looking cars!

[@240CARDI]

This isnt a review at all lmao just you being biased on what YOU like not really comparing or anything

[@badarbiter15]

Cause the new mustang is dumpster fire. Why do you think they didn't include the camaro in this? Because it destroyed it around a track

[@280zone]

Why did you even go to the track if the whole comparison is just "your" opinions?

[@JP1348]

Maybe because driving them on a track back to back helps him form that opinion?

[@Brianbugz34]

​@JP1348 bro.. his opinion was super biased.. he said the challenger interior was old cheap fake.. and he loved it.. vs the high tech mustang interior lol

[@tri3pleagent]

​@@JP1348point taken...but why no numbers and you're on a track?

[@jerryreid813]

I don't think he likes the Mustang. Just a wild guess though! 😆

[@voodoodiecast]

Motortrend doing the best they can to “sabotage” the Mustang🤣🤣

[@junitoss83]

Or it’s just not as good as the last one

[@SiCxNeMeSiS]

Haha foreal!

[@themidnighttavern6784]

​@@junitoss83It's better. Looks great, drives great.

[@freddywayne]

Now, I understand why MotorTrend has lost tons of viewership. 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@doktordeutschland1806]

I'm a dodge guy but I think the new mustang looks great. It seems a lot of Ford guys disagree with me based off the r/mustang subreddit lol 😅

[@bavarianmoparworks8668]

New Mustang looks HIDEOUS. No. Seriously, worst design of any Mustang ever made.

[@CrezBroSteph]

Has to grow on people still but I believe it looks better than the 18-22 except they could’ve done better on the front grill and rear trunk deck lid other wise they went the right way

[@maxsalsman493]

I have always loved mustangs and this one is no different. I’m excited to see the changes for 2025

[@TheFirstCause]

The front looks VASTLY better than the 2018 refresh that eventually become the look for most 6gen Mustangs. The original 2015 was PERFECT. A perfect design, but they made the lights all squinty/small and too low for the hood and fenders. It just looks unbalanced vs the 2015. But the 2024 fixes that, brings it closer to the 2015 but with badass futuristic edge. I'd still get a 6gen Camaro SS over the 2024 for the performance alone (and I love the looks for the 2016. I'd get a ZL1 bumper if I bought a refresh 2019+) but the 2024 Mustang GT looks amazing upfront. The rear slanted taillights are... odd... but look better in person. Not a home run like 2015, but close, and WAY better than the 2018 refresh.

[@DavyDave1313]

The original 2015 front looks like a ford fusion and so does this 2024 one 🤣 what a joke 2018-23 absolute best looking of the s550s

[@limpbikkiesbruh-connormeal7339]

Man you really dont like mustangs do you 😂

[@2easy007]

I own a scat charger, but that mustang is clean. In my opinion it’s the best looking mustang ever. I’ve sat in one, but theirs not enough leg room. The mustang looks better, but the challenger has way more space.

[@clarklimbaugh822]

I'm glad y'all pointed out the awful looks on the Stang, I've been saying that ever since the refresh. But how can you say it's the winner after talking so much smack?

[@themidnighttavern6784]

The new mustang is gorgeous.

[@RangerJ441]

Gah dang! How much did Dodge pay you!? All I gotta say is those 392 guys sure get mad when they get beat in a straight line by a turbo 4 cylinder 😂😂

[@evildrizzt1]

A honda and laptop is still king on these streets😂

[@Basslightning666]

Not mine, those shitbox throw away cars get toasted every time here. Even if the Challenger loses the race, which isn't often, we love our cars better 😜

[@HioSSilver1999]

If your 4cyl mustang outruns a challenger it's either you're mustang is modded alot or driver error for the challenger.....or maybe he wasn't even racing you at all.

[@RangerJ441]

@HioSSilver1999 Mustang... you mean stock Focus RS... and I know he was racing because I heard it revving all the out. I highly doubt it was driver error. I mean it's not hard to stomp on the gas pedal and let the transmission do all the work. Also, I would say no one ever goes 60 to 70% in race. Always go 100% because you never know what the other person has done to their car.

[@HioSSilver1999]

@@RangerJ441 a well driven stock focus isn't out running a well driven 392 car....you may have raced a 5.7 car.

[@ryanjames8888]

Sounds like dude don't like Ford's lol

[@Welcometofacsistube]

It's sounds like this dude doesn't like Fords. There, I fixed it for you.

[@wdubduece8913]

​@youtubesucks2001 it's KZbin, not an essay. Nobody like people like you, just saying.

[@Capt_HorsePower]

Biased towards the Mustang, but the Challenger design hasn't changed since they made that chassis back in '06. The Mustang look great, that Challenger though, the same for the past 17 years.

[@liv4combat]

With the exception of knocking the Stangs styling, I'm having difficulty disagreeing with this gentleman's opinion. Excellent comparison review. I'll take one of each.

[@BC08]

Just look at this dude. He’s clearly caught a lot of flack for his looks in his life… now it’s his turn

[@jebediahgentry7029]

I disagree about how the mustang looks. I think its stunningly beautiful

[@endtimes2100]

+1

[@drp1bb856]

I think this guy forgets that the reason they ditched the solid rear axle was to sell the mustang internationally, and it was the #1 selling car worldwide. The new mustang looks amazing. I’m surprised they didn’t use the DarkHorse package, or the upgraded GT package for this comparison.

[@stevenkraus1679]

I own a 2024 gt I get stopped every where I go because people love the car and want me to show it to them.

[@cstraley]

And I watch this channel why? That comparison test was no comparison test! Sad

[@m9b7v5]

Good review ... thanks👍

[@Trading-Freedom11]

This review was sponsored by "stallantis" 😂

[@line_em_uupyt4993]

That mustang will walk that challenger on any track, straight line, road course or oval. But he acts as if that boat will out run the mustang in a straight line lol

[@jaimepadilla9548]

Is it me or did he talk down about the mustang and yet at the end he says he likes the Ford better😳 🤔🤷🏽‍♂️

[@bird-man4022]

@MotorTrend, No 6th Gen SS1LE for this competition?

[@jdunn501]

What options were on this Mustang GT. I know it had the performance package and active exhaust because of the quad tips, but did it have the Magnaride suspension? I have yet to see a good comparison where someone discusses track comparison between GT with Magnaride v non-Magnaride. I have seen one KZbinr driving on the street saying he didn’t notice much difference.

[@amiller2121]

I've heard that Ford's Magnaride isn't as good as Chevy's.

[@27Zangle]

I would go with the Challenger becuse the rear seats are actually usable.

[@comicrandomness3289]

I use the rear seats for extra storage. For it's intended use, i had my nephew back there once.

[@alstound]

Handling shouldn’t deeply suffer just because you want to take your kids along. And besides, there’s the Charger sedan if you want a muscle car for the family.

[@hycinthpatrick6077]

Facts

[@HaagenDawn]

Today we learned nothing about the cars, but that the presenter really loves Challengers. Never seen a worse professionally made car comparison video.

[@cardo1111]

I appreciate Jonny Lieberman's honest review. He was spot on when he said from the roof pillar back a complete copy of the Gen 6 Camaro. Overall a nice looking car with an exhaust note tuned to perfection.

[@amiller2121]

A complete copy? Are you high?

[@mateosmithy5668]

Volvo makes beautiful cars and the Camaro is handsome… so, I guess I don’t mind the styling.

[@mkrmsmith]

I dont think anyone would believe you could design a better looking car, and this one is even better looking than the last. My opinion.

[@jmatt145]

Came from a BMW 340xi to a Challenger Scatpack manual. Test drove the Mustang GT too because love the newer styling and manual option (this from a guy who never loved Mustangs). Both cars are great in their own way, but wanted a little bit more of a backseat and liked the raw/stupid feeling of the Challenger in the end. Overall, liked both and really like what Ford has done with the latest design

[@Division_Agent_]

My 2024 Mustang GT premium performance / night pony package is built just like that with automatic transmission active exhaust. My second one coming December 11th 2023 is going to be a copy of that but with the upgraded suspension from Ford

[@craigerickson6308]

Dodge missed the opportunity to make a good track car by not putting it on a major diet. Redesign it and chop 750lbs from it with no other changes and call it a TA.

[@Dvr165]

Completely agree 👌

[@burgerbandit3646]

That chasis isn't gonna make a good track car unless you completely redesign it completely. No missed opportunities there tbh.

[@chileshemubanga3594]

Am a Ford fan but when it comes to muscle cars i believe the Dodge challenger is the pinacle American muscle look.

[@Scottf5937]

“Comparison” ? Why not call it Head2Head? “comparison” sounds like Tide vs Oxi Clean. Sucks

[@mgmcd1]

I’m not in the market, but if I were, I’d get the Mustang for sure. $60+K just seems like a lot of money for a Fiat.

[@drp1bb856]

Can’t wait for the mustang GTD 800hp and absolutely street legal!

[@jamesrobinson9176]

We're always waiting for the "good" one

[@drp1bb856]

@@jamesrobinson9176 That’s not a “good” one. That’s the best one.

[@HioSSilver1999]

It's nothing unless you want to spend 300k on a mustang.....pretty dumb really

[@RedHaloManiac95]

@@HioSSilver1999yes I’d buy a c8 zora for that price

[@drp1bb856]

@@HioSSilver1999 Whats great is that you get to do you and everyone else gets to do what they want.

[@JSum81]

The 392/8speed combo was and is a monster... but it is definitely outdated. The LS and coyote have been improved several times, while Dodge is still in 2011.

[@nicholaspoole8688]

2015*

[@jamesonpace726]

Did not see that coming....

[@patbullard9276]

Re: Mustang styling. You have your opinion I have mine and I don’t agree with you. I think the Mustang looks great. Just because it’s your show doesn’t make you correct. It’s obvious you’re a Challenger fan. AKA biased reporting.

[@raulraj9207]

Never let this man cook again

[@marlonandrade7034]

Give me a job driving these things please

[@burgerbandit3646]

I think Ford might have cancelled his allocation for a new GT 💀

[@stangmanshelby5330]

As an owner of a 2014 GT500, 2016 GT350 and now a 2023 Challenger Hellcat - All three are totally different cars / experience. The challenger is like driving an 800HP Lincoln Town Car. It’s an old design but perfect in so many ways. Plus people go insane when they see / hear a Hellcat, my Shelby’s not so much.

[@2fast2try]

The 2015 to 2017 is the BEST looking gen for the mustang PERIOD. Just bought a scatpack and its great its the ONLY modern muscle car. Mustang gt is a mix of sport and grand touring(owned a 2015 and 2019 both auto) and the camaro ss is just a sport car. (Driven multiple gens)

[@gelley46]

This review comparison totally cracks me up. Why is this still happening. A 2024 Compared to a car that really hasn't changed in decades beside some cosmetic and hp increases. Also the Chally and Chargers are done in a few months in this form. Challenger/Charger. American muscle stright line smoke them if you got them big comfy cars. Mustang/Camaro. Track focused lighter fast sports cars that are a blast. There's really no comparison other then highlighting what we already know for the last 20 years.

[@J.W.W.]

100% agree with JL on this one.

[@johnh.9127]

Just forget about the numbers, I believe you will have a lot more fun in the scatpack, there a blast, the mustang is a great car, just depends on what you’re looking for.

[@evildrizzt1]

Is this really a fair comparison? One is a muscle car while the other is a high performance modern sports car. One is born from late 1960s tech while the other is the latest in race performance. That challenger has an old school cross plane, single cam, push rod V8 while the ford is a high revving flat plane ( I stand corrected, not flat plane) dual overhead cam and dual throttle body V8.

[@alstound]

The Ford engine isn’t a flat plane, though.

[@CarlosCamposvc92]

Johny totally sounds like Digital Foundry's John Linneman

[@cyberspd]

I like the styling of the last gen 'Stang better. I'm sure it performs great but aesthetics are important also...

[@TheSteflou64]

Me too! I have a 2014 v6 Mustang that I love!❤️🐎🚘

[@jeffa.8976]

"all new vehicle" I love ya Johnny, but that's the same car as the old one with only minor updates.

[@fastcars514]

I would of liked mustangs if they kept the 05-09 looks, it looked exactly like the old mustang, now they keep changing the look, another reason i like dodge the keep the same look as classic

[@davidnelson1905]

Ok this guy is a major moper fan so his thoughts on mustangs don't matter but everyone intital to there opinions.

[@THELANKANCOMRADE]

Challenger hasn't changed in design because its timeless. The mustang and Camaro has changed so much they are so far removed from the classic. IMO they do not capture the classic muscle car look and feel. I feel so bad that the Challenger is ending production. Get them while you still can!

[@tri3pleagent]

That's because they're pony cars, not muscle cars.

[@mrhawkeye293]

Agree new mustang looks awful. But a 23 challenger is 65 before markup. Dealers are marking up 20k if you can find one. Can order a mustang for 45-55k no problem.

[@austincassell4741]

The new mustang does look terrible but the challenger hasn't had a major design change since it was debuted

[@L4rceny]

That's the point. Mopar people like this look, and don't want it messed with.

[@EdMiF]

No need to fix what ain't broke.

[@StevenMann-lc5ic]

Actually, I think it’s a pretty honest review. The Challengers are an unapologetic muscle car , and to me, the new Mustang doesn’t look near as good as the previous models, inside and out.

[@amiller2121]

Right. But a review is about more than the looks.

[@BruceLee-sw4ms]

Ford should build a big capacity V8 quad cam /32 valve engine -like a 6.5 litre . NA. And twin turbo or supercharge it for a GT500.

[@jesseas210]

No race?

[@zambonidriver42]

I’d have tested a Dark Horse against a Scat Pack. This review is “a missed opportunity for Motortrend”.

[@mateosmithy5668]

Good review!

[@alstound]

This review has been brought to you by Stellantis.

[@DS22723]

Dude sounds like your typical Dodge ballwashers from Instagram 😂😂😂

[@srtv8or109]

So true about the Mustang when they first started coming out they look good but now it looks more like a Camaro Whereas now it does not look or take you back to the day at least the challenger still does❤

[@srtv8or109]

Well since dodge released the six speed it is a no-brainer

[@evildrizzt1]

@@srtv8or109EPA rating is killing them. The srt8 from the 2000s were getting 19mpg hwy with the six speed manual.

[@MrHawaiiboy510]

Why not Camaro?

[@brychrsta]

Who pays the most is what Motor Trend is most worried about these days. A far cry from the '80s, '90s, and early 2000s when I used to buy them. No more.

[@longshot82383]

Still zero steering feedback in the mustang

[@Yourmission9]

They had us in the first half not gonna lie……

[@LuckyLopez777]

Team Mustang 😁👍 Save the Manuals

[@vitosgirl81]

He must work for dodge

[@markelraya10]

Everything about the mustang is better, take the scat pack and go around a track or drag. The mustang will will be 4 cars or over half a lap.

[@user-ot5yb8lp8j]

Hes not wrong, even if its biased. The dash alone in the mustang is blasphemy. It looks like a lazy attempt to get rid of a bunch of iPads. The Challenger looks amazing inside and out, especially with the WB and 305s.

[@MrJimmyPenguin]

Everything on point as things are for real.

[@backnu]

Motortrend, let's see this with a Camaro 1le since you guys removed all the other tests. Weird how that happened? ! How much did Ford pay you guys to do that ?!

[@jonathanmckay5820]

Never liked this goof,both nice cars

[@Rinker44]

at a track and proceeds to show no laptime lol....

[@hooligangeneral300]

How is this apples to apples? Put the top Mustang against it.

[@ryweebs4395]

The new Stang is absolutley terrible looking. Hard to beat last gen's slick look, let alone a challenger.

[@raulraj9207]

Trust me bud It’ll grow on you. Everyone shared the same sentiment about 2016 as well.. with that said I’m happy they are not afraid to try “change” instead of making em look the same every year

[@Bartucdabloody]

fails to mention a scatpack widebody is about 10k more expensive on average than a mustang gt

[@themidnighttavern6784]

The challenger is a poorly proportioned car that people defend because it looks like a crude interpretation of the old one. I dont understand why bad designs get a pass just because they're retro. It's the same thing with the wrangler.

[@bensmith4194]

I love the Mustang but the new front end looks to etch a sketck like just pieces all over the place the Challenger looks is still second to none I have bought 3 mustangs over the years I love the old design with the big round headlights and the big round fog lights so to me the Challenger look are just better then the Mustang.

[@kingshawn1857]

I have some gripes with the new design but I still choose the stang with challenger you're basically buying a 06 vehicle with a face lift the design has not changed at all

[@TheVikingRL]

Thank you for calling out the design issues!!!! So many other reviewers must just be afraid to offend Ford and tell the truth.

[@JorgeItuarte]

Boy, they really screwed up the looks of the Mustang. That front end is awful. The dash is awful.

[@elite4916]

If dodge wasn't so easy to steal I'd go with them I'm with ford mustang now

[@GXKid06]

This video could have come out in 2015.

[@Legendary-2024]

This was a really great review. Thank you for this 😊

[@vincentfauconnier1460]

Finally not an EV in sight

[@bangbang-ko2gi]

Srt 392 for the win

[@jo24pafisher]

Id rather not have my car stolen. Mustang for the win

[@neilwattoo]

That shitstang is gonna be around til 2032? Oh lord, we stuck again. Resale must be marvelous. And I bet in 2032 it sells for double the price at 120k.

[@kingshawn1857]

To me only the gt is ugly the dark horse is a gorgeous vehicle I'm aware it's just a glorified gt with the tremec 6spd option but it does look good although the gt pp is much quicker

[@stevencolby49]

But it dont have a ford badge

[@timbrowning7272]

Maybe next time you should pick somebody that's not. Biased somebody that would write them both more fair they're both beautiful guards both big engines they're about the same