Comparison - Tomb Raider Chronicles PC vs PS1 vs DC

[@infinity2z3r07]

Still amazed at what could be accomplished on psx. The whole machine was like 10w and half of it was the optical drive lol

[@rayeendelance7629]

Dreamcast still has the same water effect when you get out of the water since from the fourth game... good thing that’s not removed in TR5 👌🏻🎮

[@retroboy-fh1ji]

Rayeen Delance very true. But everything else, looks very poor and dull for a Dreamcast game.

[@uros.u.novakovic]

PC is far superior in the gameplay department, but PS has better FMVs from what I can see.

[@reelFUTURE]

I’m not sure why consoles always had better FMV quality. One would think PC would be more beneficial in that department but their quality is always inferior. Angel of Darkness was the same thing but far worse.

[@CryptoJordanVR]

Is it just me, or were certain graphical features actually removed in the Dreamcast version?.....

[@user-cg9yu4gx2q]

this comparison is retarded because its using an emulator and dreamcast emulators don't run tomb raider games well..

[@lukatombraider12]

@@user-cg9yu4gx2q Read the description(again)

[@1gta4gta]

@@user-cg9yu4gx2q dude learn to read

[@sumiosquirrel]

I didn't notice any missing effects myself... can you state a time where you think one is?

[@larabrit]

Shadow of Lara IS missing 👍

[@rayeendelance7629]

This was the classic TR game series before Eidos push and fired Core from finished their unfinished game Angel Of Darkness... at least I rather played classic TR to AOD games instead Crystal’s terrible TR franchise. And now, modern TR gamers will end up being here like... 😒

[@retroboy-fh1ji]

Rayeen Delance like uncharted

[@OwtDaftUK]

I personally quite liked AOD even though it was unfinished and the controls were shite. I do prefer the PS1 era TR games though. I actually found them scary when I was younger.

[@rayeendelance7629]

OwtDaftUK AOD sure was/is a discontinued game of itself since I blame Eidos from rushing Core to finished the game and then they fired Core Design. Especially when Eidos rejected Core’s 10th Anniversary Edition while they leave all hands to Crystal... I have to say it was a dick move what Eidos has done from that for. Secondly, TR3 was my first game from my childhood years. What was your first TR game from Core Design?

[@OwtDaftUK]

The 2nd game was my first.

[@ToyotaKudoFan]

Cry about it

[@wizzwizz5832]

🥇PC 🥈DC 🥉PS1

[@facu1976]

PS seems to have better lighting than the others and looks very similar despite the obvious limitations of the hardware. That proves that by this point Core's programmers had absolutely mastered the PS1. The good thing about the PC version is the more zoomed in camera. DC version comes last

[@CryptoJordanVR]

It would look SOOO much better if he were running the Dreamcast version in 480p through VGA. Or even better, through HDMI with the Akura HDMI box.

[@Unethical.FandubsGames]

It would look a tiny bit better****** Fixed.

[@hamburgersteak7215]

Dude where were you its been a year?

[@Erkkade]

Ian Wear I’ve been busy with my studies. One year? No, only six months. :)

[@ElectroTherapyFTSoul]

This probably wasn't the best level to show off. For Ireland, PS1 has more pronounced storm clouds and rain effects, giving the level more visual detail and atmosphere. In the skyscraper levels, there's a teleporter machine with lights that travel through its extensions, but they don't work on PC. There are other effects that either don't work as well or not at all on PC (this also goes for Tomb Raider III and maybe IV, I haven't finished the latter yet). The coloring and lighting in general is more subdued on PC too. Essentially, while the PC may have sharper and more HD graphics, the PS1 has bolder colors, more contrasting lighting, and a more complete visual experience.

[@justdev8965]

You're out of your mind if you think that. I played all Core Design TR games on my Win 98 SE Pentium III desktop with an ATI graphics card. It looked a million times better on PC. Not to mention the huge dpi difference between my CRT PC monitor and CRT TV back then.

[@victorfadel06]

@@justdev8965 No, he is right. There are a lot of little details present in PS1 version that are missing or simply broken on PC versions. Sure, PC has more HD visuals, but it also has missing ambient lightining (lara and objects dont react to light sources), missing animations (the elevator falling in one of the last levels), no reverb audio, and one the ugliest skyboxes I've ever seen in a video game (but they look pretty good on PS1). It's not like PC wasn't capable, it was just laziness from the developers

[@MartinhoRamos1990]

Is the PS1version widescreen? It sure looks like it...

[@reimaginethesounds6694]

the only aspect that really fail in the pc version is the sky, the transition from the static one to the animated its terrible

[@retroboy-fh1ji]

Dreamcast version wins because of the exclusive effects and realtime shadows implemented for Lara. Also the resolution is 640x480i (at 30 fps, reaching sometimes 60 frames per second). Although, the port looks like a PS1 game handled by an emulator with OpenGL graphics. It didn't use more than 2% of the Dreamcast full power, lazy port for a way way more powerful console. As for the PS2, it's just the PS1 version emulated on high resolution like DC (not port but emulated by hardware acceleration). And PC looks decent but too blocky imo. Also, the utilization of Windows CE drop performance on many DC games (The Last Revelation suffered from that, and was only using 2% of the full proccessing power of the DC). Also, not many people know that DC never reached its full potential like the PS2 did after 5-7 years (Shadow of the Collossus and God of War 2 pushed really hard the console using around the 98-100% of the full power). DC can do 7 million of polygons at 30 fps with all effects on screen, this was using less than 180000 polys (maximum quantity for PS1 with texture mapping, with flat polygons it can do 360000, much less than Saturn, but more than DS and N64 without the turbo 3D microcode).

[@janhelfers9068]

Ehhh, where are these exclusive effects and realtime shadows in the Dreamcast Version you are talking about ? because judging the video, there are no shadows for Lara and a missing green flickering flare effect, also a worse than the PC version looking water drop effect. how the PC is supposed to be looking more blocky is beyond me, the increased resolution makes it look sharper, but i don't see more polygons in the DC game.

[@CryptoJordanVR]

It would look SOOO much better if he were running the Dreamcast version in 480p through VGA.

[@janhelfers9068]

open my eyes ? The water droplets can be clearly seen on PC, in the PS version not so much because of the small resolution. The effect looks in my opinion more realistic and refined than the exaggerated water threads in the Dreamcast version.

[@janhelfers9068]

you sound like as if you need a supercomputer for this game ;-) my old 433 Celeron could run this Game pretty okay.

[@retroboy-fh1ji]

JoseAngel2TR unfortunely, it was a very poor conversion of the original PS1 release with little to nothing changed in comparison (obviously, the game has texture filtering, antialiasing and better light sourcing support, but the hole game still looks like a sligthly upgraded PSX/PC port, using almost nothing of the DC strengthts).

[@Matt08719801]

No doubt the dreamcast version holds up the best as a console port to the pc

[@oc9880]

PS1 version está hecho para pantalla 16: 9 👍🏻

[@cineyoutube_Da_Lee_7604]

Amaziing version PC Like

[@samuelsoares9508]

Não sei se as versões são mesmo assim porem pelo o que foi mostrado eu acho as cinematicas em melhor qualidade no PC e em pior qualidade no dreamcast, no jogo incrivelmente a boneca se adapta melhor no PlayStation pois ela fica mais escura enquanto nas restantes continua clara para alem de a mesma versão ter melhores texturas e com mais detalhes, iluminações e colorações, alem de ter a melhor drawn distance a versão dreamcast a unica coisa que ganha é nos filtros pois quando ela saiu da agua continuava a sair gotas enquanto no PC e no PlayStation parou de deitar gotas do nada, no que o Playstation se sai pior é que as texturas do mapa alem de terem mais serrilhados nem sempre as texturas ficam estaveis. no geral pelo o que foi mostrado ambas tem suas qualidades e defeitos não existe a versão definitiva, porem pelo que foi mostrado eu escolheria a versão de PlayStation.

[@mikegenesis7732]

Dreamcast is always the best Version from good old tomb Raider Games 👍

[@hikkikomori1182]

ps1 for audio reverb

[@natandjai]

2018 and you still don't have vga for the dc it cots like 5 dollars for a cable

[@Erkkade]

Tonkinese I have vga cable and vga box for the Dreamcast but it’s a different story how to capture a game footage with the vga cable. I have Elgato HD60

[@LTambini96]

should the title say ps1 not ps2?

[@retroboy-fh1ji]

Luca Tambini i guess the ps1 version is played on PS2 with texture smoothing or probably not... at 480i (512x240p internal resolution of the ps1 version scaled to 480i res of ps2).

[@Erkkade]

Yes, that's right. I wasn't thinking when I wrote the title. I used original PS1 console for capture, not PS2. Thanks for noticing.

[@CryptoJordanVR]

Retrofan 99 That's not how it works on the PS2.... PS3 upscales PS1 games but PS2 doesn't. Otherwise there wouldn't be an issue with playing PS1 games through component on an HDTV. Most HDTVs don't accept 240p over component, but will accept 480i over component no problem.

[@Zoomer.88]

Yeah, that's terrible port for Dreamcast. No new assets at all. Dreamcast sometimes can reach the graphic fidelity of PS2. Look at, I dunno, Dead or Alive 2 for example. I know it's a fighter but a single boob from that game consists of more polygons than the whole screen in TR.

[@paulosoares6186]

Ps1 and pc 1st Drem cast 22222288383884848484895859nd

[@epires2]

Pc wins!