Compass Basics - Map and Compass Skills - Video 3

[@markmueller7959]

At 1735 you advise to put the needle in the dog house. Just pointing this out because the Silva 123 guys recommend aligning the Meridian lines at this point. Small difference, I know, but if their map wasn't oriented exactly this could cause an azimuth error. Even without map oriented, lining up the meridian line would set you straight when you stand up and put red in shed. Not trying to snipe, but I'm scanning a bunch of these videos since I just bought your same mirror compass. I'm a retired USMC Grunt with a master's grasp on everything lensatic, but this one takes some getting used to. I think I'll put a cheat sheet on the back of mine with clear tape until I fully trust myself. Ha. Keep making cool videos.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Thanks for the feedback. And thanks for yoru service to our great nation. Some of my best friends are Marines.

[@drkcaudle1]

I don't know why other compass videos aren't this clear and precise. Thanks for such an easy to understand presentation.

[@Ali-7676]

I know right. As a newbie to orienteering I've had the same issue. Half of the compass videos on YT are so basic theyre useless, and the other half are just plain wrong in their explanations and the posters in the comment section catch their errors or they think they know their topic, but just stumble through. IMO, So Far Hiking Blog and Survival on Purpose have the best Compass tutorials at the moment. Waiting for Corporals Corner to upload orienteering videos; he, like Survival on Purpose, is very clear, no nonsense, well thought out and well articulated.

[@normanmallory2055]

Well done Brian ..You are the first person to speak about scales on the base plate .. I live in the world of 1:24000 and 1:62500 scales as all i use is USGS Topo quad maps ... I ordered a new Suunto model this morning that contains both scales and i have both 7.5 and 15 min of angle Topos in my case even though i mainly use 7.5 min of angle for the detail.... I also own a Brunton mirror compass that is a UTM compass for use with UTM and i carry GPS which is set to UTM. This Brunton has 3 scales on the base plate and they are all 1:24000, very well thought out .. One scale is 1:24000 in miles , second one is 1:24000 in feet and the final scale is 1:24000 in meters .. Someone finally figured it out , make your compass speak the same as the topo you carry out in the field ... Good job Brain

[@redmiller7524]

This is the best video on KZbin on basic use of compass thanks iv been looking all over for what you just showed

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Wow. Thanks

[@full_metal2452]

Just ordered a Sunnto MC-2G w/USGS scales and trying to learn as much as possible so I can pass on knowledge to my two young boys. Thank you for teaching this ole dog new tricks 👍

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

I'm glad it helped.

[@bringbackmemesineurope1576]

i still don't know exactly what i'm doing yet, but i learned way more from this tutorial than any other that ive seen. thanks

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Cool

[@chrisdoyle2783]

I just came across this video and have to say that this was very clear in explaining the basics. Well done!

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Glad it was helpful!

[@KCSmith1]

Thank you so much! That's one thing I wanted to learn. I knew it was easy but I learned about 45 years ago! Safe to say I needed a good refresher course.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

I'm glad it helped.

[@jaswas77]

Great video. One of the best I've seen on this topic. Thanks for using the old school compass when demonstrating with the map.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Thanks. I appreciate it.

[@lilbeau8098]

Stay warm man.thanks

[@johnbryant_]

Great video and very helpful with understanding the declination adjustment on the compass (been scratchin' my head on that one).

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

I'm glad it helped.

[@onesalty1]

Great videoing on map and compas skills, great in illustrate the use of reading a compass and basic map reading....learned a great deal, thank you!

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

+onesalty1 Thanks!

[@KG-vi2mv]

I've been looking at videos about how to use compasses and this one is by far the best. People make it to complicated and then you're bound to get lost if you're in h bush haha thanks for the video. Big fan!

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

+Kris Gaudet I am glad it helped

[@LesWarren]

Best compass tutorials I have seen.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Thanks. I appreciate it.

[@hermankangoo4744]

Love it I'm now learning how to use it but only on KZbin until I get one I never knew how important it was to have one and I live in the Caribbean I could get lost easy in my country if I go hiking now you are making it easy for me to understand thanks for the info

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

I'm glad it helped.

[@papabear2334]

instead of using a stick to measure the distance use the string on your compass get a much more accurate reading and it will also help you line up to get your right angle

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Great idea

[@TyJee28]

Interestingly, several of the new (2017) Silva (Sweden) compass models now come with 2 scales on the compass landyard. Here's a link to one model with this feature: silva.se/product/compasses/compasses-outdoor/expedition-s/

[@andyclark1173]

Thank you for a simple lesson in declination. Wish I’d seen yours sooner.👍

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Glad it was helpful!

[@josephcampbell1693]

Paint the bottom of base plate compasses with clear nail polish to prevent the wear of the info on the bottom.

[@garelong5775]

Another great vid, Brian.....you're pretty thorough....thanks.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Gare Long I appreciate it.

[@bobsaget0429]

Great video. Just getting back into bush backpacking, Helped a lot thanks.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

+bobsaget0429 That is good to hear. It makes it all worthwhile knowing that. Thank you!

[@johngo6283]

I like the stick technique. However, it doesn't work very well if you're trying to measure more than the distance shown on the bar scale on your map. A slightly different technique which lets you measure the distance is to simply break a small twig in the exact distance of 1 mile on your map. Then, you simply walk the stick along whatever distance you want, counting each time you put it down, to let you measure linear distance fairly accurately.

[@farmtrout66]

I’m a few years behind 😬 but this is a good and simple explanation of map and compass. I’m adding it to a public playlist for such. 👍👍

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Thanks!

[@WizardTerence]

Thanks you ! Made this understandable ! Subscribed ! Great job Brian !

[@alansawyer121]

Another great video, thanks Bryan. I'm learning a lot from your channel.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Alan Sawyer That's good to hear. Thanks.

[@NathGrech]

Good Stuff from Melbourne Australia... Just purchases a Suunto MC2 Global Metric Compass.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Well g'day Nathan. Thanks for watching. I think you made a good choice. Thanks. - Bryan

[@NathGrech]

Haha, G'day. Subscribed!

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

I appreciate it.

[@JedWunderli]

Another great video. Thanks for taking the time.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Thanks for taking the time to watch it.

[@fredkarasek859]

Good stuff, Thanks Brian.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

+Fred “steam” Karasek Thanks for watching.

[@bdcochran01]

You can use the black arrow (which always points down) in forming a triangle from whence you can calculate the height of an object, like a tree. Look up solving AAS triangles and print it out. You know the distance to a tree. You know the angle at which it is leaning by using the bezel rotated. You are drawing a straight line from your starting point looking at the tree to the top. So, you know all three angles and one side.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Yep. I was planning to do a video on that stuff but I forgot. Thanks for the reminder

[@harirao12345]

Great video! Very well explained!

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

+harirao12345 Thanks

[@mikewilliams8151]

I still have my lenestic compass that I used in Desert Storm. Still working, just the trictum die. Still great

[@chrisdoyle2783]

If it's a Cammenga you can send it in to them and they will replace the tritium (for a fee) for you and bring it back to life.

[@davidm.7149]

Thanks for the lesson. now I know how explain it to the kids.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Glad to help.

[@papabear2334]

you can also make one inch marks on the string to help find distance

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

+John Ritenour Yes you could.

[@johngo6283]

Which only works on a map of that particular scale. Use a map of the larger or smaller scale, and your 1 inch marks don't work. It's better to use the existing scale bar on a map, and break a small twig to the distance of 1 mile or 1 km, and use that to measure distance.

[@Denman500.]

Good video,thanks Brian.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Thanks.

[@michellehiggs60]

Thank you sooo much really helpful. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

I'm glad it helped.

[@Tenbears2022]

My suunto mc2 usgs compass has 25 degrees up 45 degrees on the side of the black fold over cover. Do you know what it's for or how to use those marks

[@jkg6211]

I'm still trying to figure that one out myself. Any luck?

[@Eliel7230]

Some good information here. Thanks for posting. 😀

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Thank s

[@Donatillo1961]

Love your channel !

[@NagoLnoJ]

What is the black arrow used for on your sighting compass? I have a Silva ranger 515 which is almost identical to your sighting compass in this video. I noticed that my black arrow moves with the dial, but if I tip the compass it will move also. In all the videos I've watched I've heard no one talk about the use or purpose of this black arrow. Can you help me understand its use please.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

It is for using the compass an an inclinometer to measure slope incline. Here are the Suunto instructions so you can see what I mean: ns.suunto.com/Manuals/MC-2_Global/Userguides/SUUNTO_MIRRORCOMPASSES_UG_EN.pdf

[@robertboyd3863]

I was wondering the same

[@redmiller7524]

Try a hair dryer on that bubble in the compass it may help

[@ritesideofthefence5857]

Thanks Brian.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

I hope it helps

[@ritesideofthefence5857]

yes the entire series was great. I shared them with my grandson and we are doing a hike together this weekend. Thanks again Brian.

[@DisabledPrepper]

Exceptional! Thank you sir! - Subscribed. Warm regards. DisabledPrepper

[@t.w.milburn8264]

'mornin, Bryan; Another great Map & Compass lesson 4 us.Make it look easy,with practice should B good 2 go.Hoping ya got dug-out from the snowstorm? LOL Hoping this finds U & Yours Safe Well & Happy from The Maritimes In Canada, A.T.B. Terry " GOD BLESS "

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Thanks, we're all fine. A few inches of snow and I think I heard that the governor had declared a stat of emergency. I know it took me 5 hours to make what should have been a 45 minute trip home yesterday because of the chaos.

[@t.w.milburn8264]

glad every-1's safe & sound !

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Thanks Terry. God Bless.

[@johngo6283]

Thank you for mentioning that adjustable declination is a very important feature. Forget that old school adding / subtracting your declination. That is a recipe for total confusion years from now if you are lost and stressed and don't use your compass very often, which is probably most of us. Suunto compasses are great! Here's another video of the talks in detail about how to set the declination on a Suunto compass. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmPPaZeohcuqrLc

[@TheWizardOfTheFens]

johngo6283 it’s easy enough to remember: “Grid to mag add, mag to grid get rid”...

[@nramember.2nd]

Very helpful.

[@TyJee28]

The history of the relationships between the different compass manufacturers is rather complex, yet interesting. 1996 was a busy year. Silva AB of Sweden purchased Brunton, ending Siva AB's relationship with Silva USA/Johnson Outdoors. Also in 1996 Suunto of Finland purchased Recta compass of Switzerland. For a time Brunton sold the Silva AB compasses under the Brunton name, yet could not advertise that fact. In 2006 Fiskars purchased Silva AB and sold Brunton to Fenix in 2009. Suunto after a number of years of ownership moved production of Recta compasses from Switzerland to Finland. For the details Google - Wikipedia + Silva Compass or Wikipedia + Suunto. Follow other links within the Wikipedia entries for more details. fwiw I have several Suunto compasses and all are made in Finland. Today the Brunton BOSS compasses are made in the USA, other models perhaps not.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Interesting info Ty. Thanks.

[@dalecarpenter8828]

you should have a compass even if you don't know what is or what it its light small and you may run into someone that knows

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

dale carpenter I guess you are right, but I think it would be better to take the time to at least learn the basics.

[@dalecarpenter8828]

i can't use the gps its just too easy for me to use map compass and landmarks and i think everybody knows it too like second nature .i always wondered how when i was in the army how they could get map stuff so wrong i didn't know they were doing the declination on every shot and not having a compass that had the adj feature .

[@aaone123]

Thank you for posting. After a little practice, I'm sure I'll get this down pat. You're likeable, cute and charming too...in an "Al from Home Improvement" kinda way.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Aw shucks. You are too kind.

[@nunesbarry1]

whats a great compass ive heard of silva ranger is there one better

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

I think this is one of the best on the market right now.

[@sandyballeww987]

How do you use the clinometer on the mc2g?

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Sight along the edge in line with the slope and read the swinging needle to determine the angle or steepness of the slope.

[@suicideboy7849]

can you show me on a next KZbin video that. How you can find your location on a map using a compass.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Try this onekzbin.info/www/bejne/rJqnc4KPhrtoZ68

[@manofmanythingz4812]

really good video

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

+ManOfMany Thingz Thanks

[@Zaknaberrnon]

Thanks! Informative vídeo.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Thanks for watching.

[@MenAtWorkMedia22]

Thank you!

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

+Tim R my pleasure

[@alexcordero6672]

This is a really good video and your grammar is fine. It would be nice to know why a compass needs to be $50. My wife asked me that and I didn't know how to answer the question other than, "it's top of the line.." Oh well, I'd like to know too.

[@paganphil100]

Alex Cordero: As the old saying goes..."you get what you pay for". If you want quality you have to be prepared to pay for it :-)

[@DreHolzer]

Great man, thank u so much!

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Andrea LH Thanks.

[@alexanderzwyer]

good job!

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Alexander C. Zwyer Thanks Alexander!

[@Cands528]

Good video Brian, nothing like a good compass!

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

I'd be lost without mine... Sorry, that was pretty bad, huh?

[@오렌지캡]

wonderful

[@tacticalprepper9760]

@ 1.05 ; "Only one side of the needle is magnetized"? That would make it a magnetic monopole, magnetic monopoles do not exist. Otherwise great video.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Good point. I guess I should have said only one side points north. Which would have been a very profound statement indeed, wouldn't it?

[@tacticalprepper9760]

I probably should have kept the comment to myself. It's a video on how to use a compass, not a Physics video. You make very good videos, keep them coming!

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

No worries. I can take it ;-)

[@ArmaGuyz]

Nice

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Thanks. I appreciate it.

[@cs-rj8ru]

Ha, you made a bit of a booboo when you showcased your Silva compass...You said it's old enough to have a bubble in it...What you should have said is that it's old enough to be marked "made in Sweden"

[@thomash5239]

Drinking challenge: Take a shot each time he says "needle in the doghouse"

[@karlsmith8872]

Obviously you never used one in the military. The military uses the term azimuth not bearing. Historically a bearing cannot exceed 90 degrees from north or south as is used in quadrants.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

I have never been in the military. But you know what Shakespeare said about “a rose by any other name ...”.

[@jkg6211]

Knitpickers are the worst at times, just like grammar n@z1s (I know - I'm a knitpicker myself lol)... but Karl is technically 100% correct. There are several different ways to interpret the compass depending on map scale, declination, UTM, MGRS, USGS, at al, including Quad. I wish it was standardized down into one (sans map scale), but there's just too many different needs/scenarios.

[@TyJee28]

The Silva Swedish made compasses are no longer sold in the USA. There are 2 Silva companies: The products from the original Swedish company at Silva dot se built the good reputation for the Silva name. In about 1997 the Swedish company lost the legal right to the Silva name in the USA. Today the Silva compasses sold in the USA are made and sold by a completely different company, found at silvacompass dot com. Owned by Johnson Outdoors and their compasses are made in Indonesia or China. Not in Sweden. imo the Swedish compasses are better quality - but the point is - just be aware there are 2 different companies. The original company started as a compass company. The other company is a distributor of products. Their compasses are ok and serviceable , But not Swedish made.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

I did not know that. Great info. Not too sure about my Suunto. The company is in Finland but not sure where the compasses are made.

[@TyJee28]

Update information. In Oct 2017 Silva Sweden announced they had acquired ownership or legal right to the Silva trade name from Johnson Outdoors for North America , meaning both Canada and the USA. (Johnson Outdoors also posted the sale in June 2017). The agreement went into effect 4 January 2018. What that means is starting in January 2018 Silva Sweden will again be able to sell their compasses (and other outdoor gear, primarily head lamps and packs) in the USA and Canada. The distributor to USA retailers is libertymountain dot com. You can find most of the US compass models on their website. (but not purchase them there) Including some that have global needles. Some models seem to already be sold out at online retailers that stock them. It might take them some time for Silva to determine how many compasses to make during production runs to satisfy demand. One way to tell which of the two companies made a compass with Silva stamped on them is to look at the font used for the name. The font used by Johnson Outdoors looks like this [Silva]. The font used by Silva Sweden AB looks more like this [SILVA], but with the SI & VA connected at the top. May be helpful to know if you have a preference as I am sure many of the compasses made by Johnson Outdoors will be on in retailers stores. And it may make a difference to anyone who has a preference for compasses made by one company or the other. fwiw, I just purchased a Silva Ranger 2.0 compass, a model made for the US (N. America market). The packaging says Designed in Sweden. Made in China. My bet is since compasses are one of the core products for the Silva Sweden company - they will make sure the QC, production quality control, is very high, and compasses made there will be robust. I do not know if that will be the case with all models. Some models may still be made in Sweden. Many people were quit satisfied with the Johnson Outdoors Silva compasses. I had to many of them quickly develop bubbles and prefer the compasses made by Silva Sweden. (Because I have old Silva Sweden made compasses purchased in late 70s to early 80s when they were still sold here that still work like new and have not developed bubbles). That problem is what lead me to discover there were two companies selling compasses labeled as Silva compasses. [I've had a Suunto MC2 develop a bubble, unexpected and disappointing]. However, to give good credit where it's due - I did think in general Johnson Outdoors made better compass owner's manuals than Silva Sweden does. They were often more readable, with extra clearly explained tips on different ways to use their compasses. I am pleased that I will no longer have to order them from Europe, where the models had different map scales on them than are standard map scales used here, and after 20 years I can again purchase them here , and the models sold here should have map scale or UTM scales printed on them that will match the scales used on USGS maps.

[@altexlan415]

look at moscow compass, said to be better than Sweden n USA made.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

+Altex lan I will check them out

[@dougms9790]

Don't sweat the grammar. Anything you're teachin is "plenty good enough" for me.

[@billbertrand7751]

T Y HELP A BUNCH

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

I'm glad it helped.

[@billbertrand7751]

@@SurvivalOnPurpose just trying my best to learn how to use it. My Grandsons got one each from Sant Clause, last Christmas, base plates and come to me wanting answers. Well this I hopefully will help them..LOLHAHA. BAD GRANDPA.

[@fgorr]

BEWARE - SUUNTO product not bad but customer / warranty service is VERY BAD suunto has the absolutely the worst customer service of any company that I've ever run across. If anything goes wrong with their products you cannot get in touch with anyone from the company that is willing and or has the abiltiy to help you.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Hmmm

[@cwiehle0]

Thank you!

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

Thanks for watching