THE BATTLE FOR SUPER STOCK/A-stick AT INDY

The Super Stock/A division was at one time was the top of the line for the then factory hot rods. It was an A-classed car, with a manual transmission which meant the level of badassery was at a premium to race with this group. Over the years, such programs as the the merger with with Modified Eliminator in 1982, and later the Dodge Hemi Shootout, and the addition of the Factory Stock classifications took some of the luster off of the old meat eaters. But for three diehard Super Stock racers, the breed is still lurking in the staging lanes and ready to devour the competition.
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[@davescbradiorepair8195]

Ford thunderbolts are badass

[@hbboss9406]

an original 1964 ford thunderbolt still doing what it was built for and winning 57 years later! and the guys who build them are ford racing legends.thank you from all the ford guys everywhere!

[@jimmyhawkins5357]

All the guys that built the Thunderbolt are no longer with us. Thank you Ray for keeping the old school running and winning.

[@Dld1985]

We raced these old 427 FE motors back in the mid 1970’s and thought we were really do something when we ran some 9.70’s with them in a 1967 Mustang. I watch Ray’s 1964 Thunderbolt run mid and low 8’s is absolutely amazing to me with 57 year engine design. We didn’t have the hand make 2 x 4 intake which I’m sure boost the power quite a bit and we didn’t have the clutch less transmission. But even if we did that may of got us in the 9.20 range which would still be way behind Ray’s car. He talks about shifting at 9,200 RPMs we never went over 8,000 but our engines where old Ford LeMans steel rods and TRW pistons so we had some rotating mass.

[@jimmyhawkins5357]

Ray is a national treasure in Drag racing. Old school Stock A.

[@joevald3]

No computers , no fuel injection , simple horsepower . And anyone can fix them . And they're still the king's.This to me is what is all about .

[@thxman1968]

Got that right!

[@kevinpatrick8788]

would rather watch this class of racing than the nhra top fuel , funny car or pro stock classes

[@dday9257]

kevin nolan Yea who wants to watch a Toyota bodied funny car win anything.Im old school.

[@jerrycraig6522]

Lotsa fun!!!

[@mikedevore9751]

I totally agree with you.

[@jamespiatak4102]

Amen, brother!

[@bobcuomo5122]

Just for all the hemi guys a ford was the first pro stock in the 9s.....Dave Lyall

[@loyalamerican8776]

Do you know how many times I’ve seen Chevrolet beat Ford?… how about 1 million and there are no Fords in top fuel so you need to remember that.

[@bobcuomo5122]

@@loyalamerican8776 It is still a fact just the same . Also Ford wanted to design a new fuel engine but NRHA said no when Force had the ford deal

[@CoyoteFTW]

@@loyalamerican8776 Chevy is overrated hillbilly junk. I could name a million things they don’t compete with against Ford

[@Elexmage]

Paquet’s a living legend. He’s getting more than 900 ponies out of that mill. Bad start, no problem, just drive around them.

[@toomanyhobbies2011]

Very much like 80s Pro Stock cars. Interesting take on the race.

[@waynebenedict4609]

I would still like to see the Hemi Darts and Cuda's in this class.

[@ricklodestein1101]

Why aren't they?

[@waynebenedict4609]

Because NHRA created a class just for them called SS/AH,(A HEMI). The Hemi A Bodys dominated SS/AA and SS/A till that point.

[@EvansBrosRacing]

@@ricklodestein1101 because they did not have a chance to win so NHRA did not want them to get their feelings hurt and made the Hemis only run against each other . These cars are wicked too but it is sad that they cant keep up . I guess NHRA could make the mopars run more weight , they did do that to the Hemis in Prostock back in the day . Nascar also made sure the Hemis were factored out of competition .

[@jerrywatson8281]

@@EvansBrosRacing not true....nascar allowed dodge to run the 426 Hemi in 1964 even though it wasn't a production engine at the time...so ford introduced the 427 Cammer in 1965 and it was banned right along with the 426 Hemi but in 66 dodge was allowed to run the Hemi but Nascar banned the Cammer once again and at this time in Nascar if you weren't driving a Hemi powered Mopar or 427 Tunnel port Ford or Mercury you wasn't winning much of anything....anyways the Hemi was a force to be reckoned with but Ford was developing the Boss 429 to compete and unveil in the 1969 season but initially the Boss 429 and 426 Hemi were banned but eventually they both were approved by Nascar and in 69 the Boss 429 in the Aero Fords and Mercurys pulled the King Richard petty from Mopar and he joined the Ford camp because the Mopar cars wasn't as aero and sleek as the Ford/Mercurys and then Mopar built the Superbird and Daytonas and Nascar banned the Mopar and Fords/Mercurys because they were becoming dangerously fast....Anyways i looked up and researched what i just said in this text and between the 60-1970 seasons manufacturer wins are as follows... Ford and Mercury> Wins 215 Dodge and Plymouth>Wins 195 Chevy and The rest of GM> Wins 54 and most of these came in the very early 60s before Ford unleashed the 427 tunnel ports and Mopar unleashed the 426 Hemi and these two companies battle ferociously until Nascar once again banned the fastest cars Ford and Mopar....So in closing the Hemi remains the engines with the most wins for Mopar in Nascar and one of the winninest engines in drag racing history and of course everyone knows if its Top Fuel its got a Hemi.....Long Live American Muscle!

[@CoyoteFTW]

@@waynebenedict4609 - NHRA had a class ready for the 427 Cammer too above the SS/AH it was just homologation racing engine classes. The record for SS/A is 8.4 now. Fe Big block Ford came out with in the 40’s is kicking bbc ass and outrunning 99% of the field in ss/ah.

[@mxmissile4588]

Dyno Don is smiling today.:)

[@boostedsaleen6146]

Very cool to see 64 fairlanes and old vetts still running the tracks

[@iggyfritz7150]

Quite possible Thunderbolts are the most brutal car to come out of Ford.

[@CoyoteFTW]

I can think of a few

[@jamesrobin9961]

He made a .25 second sound like you could take a nap and balance your checkbook! I know it’s is but damn…it’s a 1/4, literally “a blink of an eye!” Thats what I like about it!

[@frehleyleadguitar]

Fast Ford Thunderbolt! Nice job! Don’t win too many races with the Ford or the rules committee will penalize you.

[@kevinshipman7668]

You hit the nail on the head fuck the nhra

[@kevinpatrick8788]

im a mopar guy but those ford thunderbolts are badass .

[@CoyoteFTW]

The mighty FE big block.

[@jerrymoore6227]

Ford power!!!!!!

[@rogerbeutler5671]

In my opinion, he is the best Ford super stock racer of all time.

[@jeffpeterson5387]

Even on a bad start. Ford prevails!

[@keithohlstrom894]

This is the best class of drag racing. When cars were the best drag racing. Love this racing.

[@spiderbrandt4066]

Love the Thunderblot

[@djcdan5569]

Bad ass old man. Damn

[@427med]

YOU MEAN OLD MAN MY ASS

[@MasterWitchDoctor]

these old guys are the ones us youngsters learn from all we do is listen to them talk.

[@dusternash]

Great class! True racing at its best!

[@bobcuomo5122]

THUNDERBOLT for the WIN !!!

[@rodkemp1136]

The Wrecking Crew is always on top of his game🏆😁

[@markmacdonald7623]

Wednesday through Friday at Indy are the best!

[@leeknudson91]

No hemi no fun

[@Flussig1]

When the Pro cars are running, I walk the pits to look at the cars I came to see.

[@craigparker3434]

Outstanding. He does his talking on the track.

[@kevinb1418]

Put those stick's in factory stock car's and watch the class take off!

[@CoyoteFTW]

Ford!

[@jeffh7663]

Spelled Ray's name wrong

[@jerryhorn3621]

Used to be a great class, until all the blue oval and bow tie crowd cried and made the hemi darts and cuda form their own class SS/AH.

[@EvansBrosRacing]

Yes Sir , Hemis have to run heads up against Hemi's . Nascar forced the Hemis out too , crybabies always screw the fastest ones instead of learning more .

[@johntempest267]

@@EvansBrosRacing To be fair to the Frances', NASCAR, was more concerned with keeping bias ply tires on 3500lbs cars under 200 mph than they were "picking on the Hemi".

[@jerryhorn3621]

I think it would be GREAT- as long as NO ONE gets to change any rules for EITHER VEHICLE. What applies to one applies to the other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@johntempest267]

@@jerryhorn3621 You mean, like it is now?

[@CoyoteFTW]

@@EvansBrosRacing - Ford ran Fe427 against the 426 hemi. Ford wasn’t allowed to run the SOHC lucky for dodge they wouldn’t of won a single race if nascar approved it. Too bad. 427fe still beat the hemi so much Richard Petty left for Ford.

[@59vaughn]

Poor videography during the run....😒.....love this class tho...best cars....where are the cudas.....

[@joe3times503]

They are now SS/AH

[@JohnW1711stock]

Ray Paquet has been racing the Thunderbolt for as long as I can remember. The Vette is an L88 option. No soap opera here, just get there first.

[@427med]

HE BOUGHT IT IN1980

[@daleostrom3613]

​@427med I was at US Nationals in 1979 and Ray was racing this car then.

[@hankschrader149]

First On Race Day

[@you99tubejimking]

We had to watch the race from inside one of the cars??? We couldn't see the ET and Trap Speed on the track signs at the end of the race??? The provided graph was difficult to look at. You need to revamp this video style.

[@fcaughli]

Wilkinson's reaction times

[@twolak1972]

Those 427 T bolts were the greatest factory drag car ever produced , Nothing could compete with these MONSTERS, They were so hot nascar banned them cuz there would be one car winning week after week. T BOLTS , EVEN TODAY THE 427 FORD WOULD WASTE ANY DEMON OR HELLCAT ON THE PLANET.

[@loyalamerican8776]

The 426 Hemi is the boss!…They consistently beat the thunderbolts So you would be wrong

[@CoyoteFTW]

@@loyalamerican8776 - that 426 hemi couldn’t keep up with the SOHC 427 or the Boss 429

[@shrek_428]

SS/A was dominated for many years by 68 A-body hemi mopars, where did they all go?

[@CompetitionPlusTV]

Super Stock/AH, which has both stick and automatic plus a $15,000 shootout

[@mikeraddish7213]

They have their own class. Ssah own rules on engine head work ,more money in heads than some guys whole cars

[@ronyoung6054]

To fast for competition had to make a class all for themselves

[@EvansBrosRacing]

@@mikeraddish7213 funny that you mentioned how much money the Hemi guys spend , oh , the ford and chevy guys dont spend much lol , that is hilarious . The fact is , the Hemis out ran them and they had no chance , so NHRA changed their class , so the Ford and GM's had a chance to win . Nascar ruled them out also , what a surprise that was .

[@EvansBrosRacing]

They changed their class so they only run against Hemis , the other guys either cried or NHRA felt sorry for them .

[@jerryhorn3621]

It's luster started "downhill" when they DECIDED to outlaw the Mopars, way to much crying from the blue oval and bow tie people. They are still out there also SS/HA. They could bring the class back if they wanted. But same rules FOR EVERYONE. Not the 60's "your to quick so we'll fix ya" look at the weight ya all have to run now!!!!

[@mwhitelaw8569]

First on race day Nice race

[@bdogjr7779]

HEMI《☆》🔊IIIII

[@ST---]

Bang those gears!:)

[@ashqelon7267]

just shows AGAIN. If nhra can NOT factor every ford down disadvantage them like they did most other ford 427’s the chevys flat out absolutely could NOT BEAT! Like Jim Van Cleaves 67 fairlane, or Waldos Fairlane or Millers! All things being “equal”? LOL LOL LOL. No, sorry, Outside of FULL bar Ford 427’s. you will be on the trailer, over & over & over & over!!!!! BYE!

[@kx454]

If the 427 Ford is so great, why are there so few at the track???

[@ashqelon7267]

​@@kx454 Do the stats numbers that were made comparison to Chivvies or Plymiths ,,Olds, Pontiacs etc. , a lot of them went to the grave due to their design was not perfected as could have been. and many owners didn’t spend money in the right places to make them strong to Live. Like the connecting rods were good not great and most died due to that part. Later on most guys figured it our what made them live longer , only after many funerals of them. I had one once that was a rod blown victim. After a while the Guys w fords were sick and tired of the chivvy favored nhra and left it altogether, like I did. nhra is just another club of bigots against others they don’t WANT to compete with for classical ignorance arrogant excuses they fabricated to justify their stupidity. its a chivvy based organization “crowd” favoring outlet. Go look at ANY GM car in it. Over decades of time and today. literally nothing on any GM car is a real GM OEM part, NOTHING!!! So there ya go, an facade of fraudulent chivvy advertisements under the GM banner. the phony gimmicks they played on others. We ALL got sick of their idiotic deceptive-favoritism games. Fords were the First A-stock cars to break the 10’s . Took EVERYONE a decade to do that! Jim Waldo 67 fairlane did it. They redesigned the Mod production class all together due to few guys ran the Cleveland style engine and NONE of the others guy could get Near them.. So of course nhra bastards declassified it all together. Its a fools game they played like a clown show, lying about things, changing the rules at a whim, chronically to disadvantage ppl especially Fords engines. I couldn’t care less if they went completely out of existence because as far as Many of us are concerned they will NOT ever see us or our money or input for their chivvy biased industry again! GUARANTEED! BTW, ppl are what it work, like Bob Glidden did the exact same thing with a Plymouth one year the Ford the very next!~ If he picked up a pontiac then would be no different! Its the Guy whom makes it work, the MFG isn’t so much the big factor.. except the HEMI, everything else is just a block of Iron! In the last 15-20 years they have about all together shriveled up TO nothing. Outside a big nitro race, typically the races bleacher stands are almost always empty except the racers pit crews of parents watching them. I’m surprised they haven gone under yet.

[@kx454]

@@ashqelon7267 You have to remember that Chevy quite racing all together in '63...which hurt their development immensely in prime time racing. Fords never had it on the street, and that is a fact. Fully prepped race cars are different, people with $$$ can make anything work, and they obviously did. You claim that there is nothing "Chevy" in a racecar....Same goes for the Fords and Mopars what is your point? A Thunderbolt was a purpose built car...not even a street title. People build Chevy's because they make big power cheap. If Ford was in the same boat...people would be using them. I've got a 394 Olds in a Willys...I know the struggle of building parts (engine uses BBC rods as Olds stuff is very expensive).

[@ashqelon7267]

@@kx454 Cost and availability in volume was the draw of the interest in GM Products of course, that goes without sayin. I’m not against GM whatsoever really. I own 2 Fabulous Firebird 400HO cars. They are absolutely FAR best line of GM products of all the lines. Every department of it, performance, looks class, style options, Rarity, colors even etc. I can put a GM together and get the HI Pro rare parts all day long, in volume, but not Fords though!

[@twolak1972]

@@kx454 They only made 100 427 T bolts to sell to the public, they're so valuable who wants to beat on a 500 ,000 car.

[@loganseal4369]

Too much commentary not enough racing.

[@tommiller103]

too much b.s.