*Don't ice lance in rune of power (in aoe). It is not a gain. I probably ended up forgetting a section since I never mentioned alter time or mirror images -- mirrors image dissipates your threat, if you cast them before you attack anything you will not get threat. So just precast before your deathborne pull essentially. I might update this going more in-depth in the differences in strengths between legendaries but so far there havent been many questions on it in the comments.
@morgenmuffel57472 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Re. Your comment about Slick Ice at 27:28. What do you mean when you say your goal is to not reuse Icy Veins instantly when it’s up? So you not use IV on CD?
@Whoami-mo3nx2 жыл бұрын
Hi in Single target dmg will i Use ICE lance and flurry? In deathborn
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
@@morgenmuffel5747 Recasting icy veins while you are still in an icy veins resets your slick ice stacks. So its generally not worth re-casting icy veins till it falls.
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
@@Whoami-mo3nx Yes
@morgenmuffel57472 жыл бұрын
@@Manather Thanks for the reply. I’m still a tad confused: Icy Veins provides a 20 sec buff and then goes on a 3min CD. I know Icy Propulsion reduces the CD of IV, but under what circumstances would that reduction be sufficient to create a situation in which the IV buff is still up when IV ability comes off CD?
@brandon96892 жыл бұрын
Trying frost mage has really put things in perspective for my tank characters. Losing your veins feels unbelievably bad, if a trash pack dies unexpectedly fast push forward quickly. Your frost mage might need some shatters on new mobs ASAP.
@Max-dv1kq2 жыл бұрын
i had 1 tank in my 20+ runs that even took a mob into the boss so i can get more stack on boss/relic/add *edit* i wish this becomes the common process when playing with a mage
@brandon96892 жыл бұрын
@@Max-dv1kq it was a lot more common with freezing rain ice lance funnel in high keys last patch. I have certainly seen a lot less of it this patch with the nerfs to blizzard. But maybe for cold front it would be good.
@rachely.12222 жыл бұрын
Thank you sooooo much for making this guide. Honestly, so well put together and a lot of concepts explained in depth. I just transitioned to frost from fire the past 2 days and was hoping there was a good frost guide somewhere cuz I haven't found a fire SKB guide on youtube that explains it well enough for me. And many of the fire guides are like 7-9+ months old. Thanks again for the great guide.
@Valaran12 жыл бұрын
Dang you've been working on this one for awhile I can tell :) Awesome guide dude
@raysparks31612 жыл бұрын
I'm not very good and don't like to change gear around too much for different dungeons (mainly running M+ lowish keys 12-14's). I'm not sure it's the best decision but you helped me settle on Slick Ice/Necro as it best suits my playstyle. Your guide is outstanding and I reckon you've helped me improve my DPS more than 10 ilevels of gear would have.
@Ossiger2 жыл бұрын
Really awesome guide. I usually "learn" a new class/spec by leveling it which gives me a solid understanding but thanks to this guide I learnt how to maximize my damage. For example: I wasn't aware of the frost nova + 2set bonus combo and I also didn't know when to ignore Ice Lance procs in Deathborne. I pugged myself to 3k with my main - Boomie - but I finally wanna learn a meta class to push a little higher. Thanks a lot
@shahaydaj2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for distilling the info in the mage disc down into a single coherent vid. Love your stuff man, keep up the awesome work!
@equaleffect2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was waiting for a real 9.2 guide to come out. Love the detail it backed up things I knew and helped me learn a bit more.
@nestorlinares952 жыл бұрын
Whoaaaa, just what I need, thank you so much, I see so much effort on this guide and it's appreciated. Keep going bro ;)
@toxicawc542 жыл бұрын
this is an amazing guide taught me a lot of what I was doing wrong thank you
@quinnbrady59752 жыл бұрын
Man you’re a god I appreciate this so much. I’ve been struggling with my dps I’m really shit at frost but watching you is making me want to do better and not give up and go to another class. Still bad despite this guide, thanks regardless lol
@RuijsNL2 жыл бұрын
Thanks this has been really helpful. Recently swapped to the cold front build but it's a lot different from what im used to!
@jt9324x2 жыл бұрын
I see a lot using this but it confuses me, I understand frozen orb does a lot of damage in aoe but casting 30 fb/ flurry to get a frozen orb? I don’t understand why a lot are using that
@jamessouthwood37932 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, love these videos. Thank you for the content
@davidgarrison2252 жыл бұрын
Great video. There are so many options for frost mage right now.
@cynosure5162 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Just wanted to add that if possible, you should save your cold front proc for the start of a next pull, especially if you are ending a pull at close to 30 frostbolt cast.
@UrThysis2 жыл бұрын
love your content, helped me out on being not such a shitty frost mage.
@Bonelux2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this!
@Charlix8o2 жыл бұрын
Really really thank you Mana! ❤️
@MikiiWay2 жыл бұрын
Insane video! thanks so much :)
@louislacroix48642 жыл бұрын
Awesome guide, as always. Your videos are a huge help to have a better understanding of frost rotations in M+. I have one question, why do you swap target after casting flurry in deathborne, is it purely a dps increase?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
I swap when I get a flurry proc and my target still has winters chill, so I can flurry a different target and my cleaved frostbolt still consumes that prior winters chill.
@louislacroix48642 жыл бұрын
@@Manather Makes a lot of sense, thank you
@joeibbetson76052 жыл бұрын
awesome indepth guide, thanks!
@juansebastiant2 жыл бұрын
and I just leveled my mage, thanks buddy
@CMOatie2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, this is fantastic!
@dentsu_2 жыл бұрын
ty for guide, small thing though Freezing Winds doesn't remove the RNG from FO, it gives you an FOF proc every 2s but you can still RNG more procs. I'm sure that's what you meant but you said "removes the RNG".
@Wellshem2 жыл бұрын
One of the best guide ever
@brainy12002 жыл бұрын
Hey sick guide! Do you hold your icy veins to line up with DB or just send it on CD? It's really frustrating that they don't line up sometimes. Also just so I understand correctly with necro and SI 2 target you completely ignore icelance right? Or are there cases where you use them? Thx
@Zakrash1419322 жыл бұрын
very deep guide good job my man!
@stefanhoeven8342 жыл бұрын
Hi, amazing guide! I was just wondering, I imported afenar's weakauras but do we really need to track brain freeze and ice lance procs on that? (Since that is already shown by FoF and BF timings addon) You're weakaura looks completly different, can you share how? Thanks!
@bmcash092 жыл бұрын
So I should be using the Water elemental with the Cold front legendary instead of using Lonely winter? And Freezing rain over splitting ice. Just wanting to make sure I understood that right.
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
yes
@jake76492 жыл бұрын
You are a god, thank you
@Sott962 жыл бұрын
Great guide man. Appreciate you
@kisfor58042 жыл бұрын
Just picked up frost this patch and have been loving it. Currently running Slick Ice Necro, how exactly does the aoe rotation play out w/o Deathborne up. Do we ever use arcane explosion? Thanks for all the content its been a huge help!
@luur4a1792 жыл бұрын
Great video lad, Keep it up!
@lolwotmate2 жыл бұрын
Thanksfor the great guides!
@sameeryassin8972 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this helped me out alot!
@codysuckmyd2 жыл бұрын
Amazing vid, thank you mana
@mySabake2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, you helped me alot with this video on the rotation. And I do really like your WeakAuras on the screen for Orb and Ice lances, gotta go and check if I can find them on wago or recreate on my own
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
You can't overcap haste with icy veins and lust because they both give haste % not haste rating. There is a diminishing return for most stats around 33% but they only get diminished if whatever buff you have provides rating and not %. So no, dont delay icy veins. And as for your gear stats just sim it www.raidbots.com/simbot/gear I appreciate the kind comments :)
@mellowsunset77302 жыл бұрын
Love it man.
@qb4nn3512 жыл бұрын
Amazing guide man!
@madmax30662 жыл бұрын
Hello Manather, what do you think about glacial fragments in s3/s4? I was wondering why I can't really find any up to date videos to that legendary. Is it so bad :( Because on paper it sounds amazing.
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
You lose a lot of single target damage to go it. I personally havent tried it as I’d like to save some gold. I’d recommend the nightfae freezing winds playstyle instead. It should perform well in consistent aoe though.
@lesloko2 жыл бұрын
thanks for this guide
@TP-yo5nx2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mana, thank you for this video, it helped a lot, I just had a question, do you shatter blizzard/orb each time or only during icy veins?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Only during icy veins, its mainly for the cooldown reduction. It doesn't become a dps gain until 8+ targets. Though its more important to shatter your comet storm from your tier set.
@TP-yo5nx2 жыл бұрын
@@Manather thank you for the response, in regards to shattering comet storm from tier set is the there a target cap and are you shattering each time it hits, I know max charges of ice nova is 2
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
@@TP-yo5nx you shatter once per comet storm, and it just has a softcap i believe, so no target cap
@OneFiveYankee2 жыл бұрын
Hi Manather! New sub here. I used to raid mythic and I'm curious as to your thoughts between frost and fire for raiding? Are they fairly comparable or should I be playing one over the other?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Atm if you have better gear or better skill at either one then that is the better spec outside of specific scenarios in raid. Fights like lihuvim, halondrus, and the jailer really favor fire.
@nancyjones84512 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video and found it extremely helpful...what kind of addons are you using?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
I have an addons video from a while back. Might update it soon since I did change my UI a bit significantly.
@romawka82662 жыл бұрын
Thx for the guide, cool as always! Do we still use Arcane Explosion on 6+ targets instead of frost bolts being necro?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Not during deathborne and I'd generally only recommend it as a filler for a second if blizzard/frozen orb would come up during a frostbolt cast. At around 12+ its fine to just spam it instead of frostbolting.
@felou73712 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the guide! 👍 I have a little problem with the WA for Winter Chill. Is it just working with a 2-Set-bonus?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
No, should work. Not sure what would cause the problem but I also didnt make it
@quandaryn12312 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the "dungeon slice" simulation mode on raidbots?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
It is bad, no one uses it. Just sim patchwerk with additional targets and interpret it.
@monstermixen48532 жыл бұрын
Hey, love your vids and it have helped me alot in learning how to frost mage! I have one stupid question. im running necro + slick ice/freezing winds, should i run bonesmith heirmir already at 2+ targets or at what amount of targets will bonesmith be better than Marileth? sorry if this have been answered already and ive missed it :P
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
about 5+ sustained targets heiimir is better
@deathbywowplaying22 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if you could do a video on what conduits/cova/soulbind/legendaries you recommend for each one Super helpful guide though :)
@jazzysmovies2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video for the addons that you use? There was one on the right side that showed abilities in a row as you were casting and ie as wondering what that was! This video was great, ty!
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Trufigcd, but yes i do have a recent addon video
@bmcash092 жыл бұрын
If you were to pick one Covenant to start out with when learning frost mage which would it be? I’ll eventually do both Necro and NF but trying to decide which initially to pick. Seems like most are Necrolord on Raider IO. Thoughts? Thanks for this awesome guide.
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Necro if you plan to raid at all, but night fae freezing winds will perform better for you without tier and a lot better in very low keys.
@rod76202 жыл бұрын
Hi Thanks for putting that guide together. I have struggled with dps as fire mage. One question, what DPS should I be aiming for against the target dummy at iL250?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Use raidbots for that, there are so many factors determining your dps I couldn't tell you.
@josephali95732 жыл бұрын
great work
@TheBitefight122 жыл бұрын
Hey, love your videos! Quick question.. Do you ever delay deathborn cast untill you ramp up slick ice?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Not generally, its very good to cast it on cooldown to get more uses out of an encounter. If you weren't going to get more than 1 and it wouldnt lose you time in deathborne in lust then it might not be a horrible idea but that circumstance is likely to never occur. There are times you'll hold it for a bit like at the start of Lords of Dread.
@MoeinHosseinzadeh2 жыл бұрын
thanks for this guide, I've another question from u, I saw in Wlogs that many ppl are using Frozen Touch instead of chainreaction, whats your opinion about that one?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Personal preference with cold front (so up to you if you want that or chain reaction)
@MoeinHosseinzadeh2 жыл бұрын
@@Manather yup, I felt that too, and if u dont mind I've other question, what does cometStorm and frozenorb scall with? Stat wise i mean Cause my overall dmg in dungeon like halls was just 15k (4set necro,CF)! When i compared my dmg break down,frozen orb was around 8% less that others! 33.8crit,10% haste 16% mastery
@MoeinHosseinzadeh2 жыл бұрын
@@Manather also do u think that mage in general can still be in meta? Cause 4set survival doing 25k overall, noob destro lock does 20k ( in halls) And warriors and etc etc Or its just frost that cant push anymore forrward?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
@@MoeinHosseinzadeh Most of the highest timed keys have a mage in them
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
@@MoeinHosseinzadeh That could be you using frozen orb less than other people, check casts. But it scales with vers, mastery, and intellect.
@boiiimadking12642 жыл бұрын
Hey dude returning to the game after not playing for a while you videos help me alot to get back in the game. I have a question tho what would you say is the best Cov/Leg Combo for pugging 15-20 keys ?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Freezing winds nf for earlier keys and the closer you get to 20s the better cold front will become but freezing winds might still perform a lot better if you are more comfortable with it and if mobs end up dying too fast.
@boiiimadking12642 жыл бұрын
@@Manather thank you :)
@nickvermeylen29692 жыл бұрын
Hey man great guidd! I am playing with cornet storm talent isn 't thah as good as the ice lance one? Or is it bad to take? Also run slick ice necro so frost bolting alot over ice lance . Grts
@dnlcr3622 жыл бұрын
Buen video !!! este es mi problema, que el mago frost tiene tantas opciones, que muchas veces termina confundiéndome que build usar.
@jerrytweak2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! One question, say you are running freezing winds necro and you are in deathborne, do you still prioritize your ice lances from finger of frost procs every 2 seconds when u orb, or should you just cast frostbolts at 3 or more targets no matter what and just toss the orb and not owrry about the ice lance procs?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
atm yes, use ice lances in orb with freezing winds.
@jerrytweak2 жыл бұрын
@@Manather thanks man!
@stantenberge34852 жыл бұрын
What is the addon that puts the circle around your cursor? I've been transitioning into using @cursor macro's lately but I lose my cursor in big AoE pulls every now and then.
@cunitt112 жыл бұрын
Hey Mana! New to frost mage PvE, I was wondering what the stat / gearing priority was. It seems like it's haste=crit -> ilvl? I've noticed different mages having different stats, but with the same builds. Is it just ilvl >> and aim for haste and crit?? Thanks in advance. Cody
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
ilvl is generally best then aim for haste and crit with vers and mastery being lower respectively (for general use) but sim your gear on raidbots
@_RIPLI2 жыл бұрын
Pretty detailed guide, great job, keep it up! Hope my Freezing Winds WA served you well! ;) May i ask yo share talents / legendary WA of yours, please?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
wago.io/ly5x3WIF6
@GameCZMaster2 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you so much for the guide K understand frost much more now. Do you have a link somewhere or a video for your whole ui? I love how good it looks and i would like to get a simillar one
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
I made an addon video in November. Its changed quite a bit so I will likely make one again soon in a lull of m+.
@lacenrockt96002 жыл бұрын
Is glacial fragments no option for frost mage? Edit: Maybe i missed it, but when do you use arcane explosion in aoe? (when playing with freezing wind)
@wowdren2 жыл бұрын
Hey mana! Should I be holding Ice Lance procs in non burst rune/icy veins situation to maintain the uptime of chain reation? Cheers, thanks for the vid.
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
That might be a small optimization that people are doing, but the sims currently don't reflect it so I didn't mention it. Feel free to try it out yourself though.
@Persiangamerxo2 жыл бұрын
hi
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Completely ignore the 2 set comet storm. Youre likely right that on pull it might be better to just reaction send your brain freeze with the proc, but I haven't come across logs doing that in reality so I'd just focus on your normal rotation :).
@SpellmysteryKV2 жыл бұрын
Awesome guide....thank you...is there anywhere i can find your UI? it's awesome!!!
@JiggyJenkins2 жыл бұрын
insane guide, but do you ice lance on singletarget while inside deathborne when running slick ice? And when rune of power is active, do you ice lance on 1-2 targets or only on 2?
@AkaNyme2 жыл бұрын
would also like to know this
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Yes, normal rotation unless mentioned otherwise.
@glenneric12 жыл бұрын
Did you pronounce revered as if it rhymed with severed? 😂 But seriously, thanks for the good info!
@jacklu11902 жыл бұрын
you suggested casting Blizzard on 2+ targets with Freezing Wind? How big of a dps loss if you don't do this?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
I don't know the answer tbh, probably not that much though. Its quite nerfed.
@Jambob19972 жыл бұрын
You also don’t want to re use icy veins with slicked ice in m+ ? You also let it expire first ? Or in m+ you want to use it asap for the extra RoPs you get ?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Re-use for rune
@Jambob19972 жыл бұрын
@@Manather ye I thought so, feels so bad to loose the slick ice stacks in m+ so quick due to re use for the rune but ye I guess that’s how it is now… so you only let icy veins expire with slick ice on pure ST right ?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
@@Jambob1997 Correct, even then you can refresh it when comet storming into a winters chill debuffed target.
@donaldchia42702 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thank you for the video, could I ask what add ons are you using to show you the 2 ice lance on the middle bottom of your screen. I tends to mash the ice lance more than twice and this add on will help me track it. Much appreciated.
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Winters chill weak aura is in the description
@morgenmuffel57472 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Re. Your comment about Slick Ice at 27:28. What do you mean when you say your goal is to not reuse Icy Veins instantly when it’s up? Can anyone else explain please? New to Frost here
@Miichalek2 жыл бұрын
With Icy Propulsion you can have another Icy Veins ready while you're still in your previous one. When Icy Veins is used, slick ice legendary stacks fall off to 0 and you need to stack it up again. So basically use every icy veins to its' full duration and only use new Icy Veins if you original falls off
@TimeRift6092 жыл бұрын
Does Glacial Fragments have any place at all in 9.2? I am considering trying it out since I really only do lower keys, and unfortunately if I were to switch from Necro to NF and go Cold Front, I would have to take a big ilvl loss in order to move around my tier pieces to accommodate that new legendary. At least with Fragments, I can craft it on the back slot.
@jt9324x2 жыл бұрын
yes it does, in keys under 20 it will do fine. but my question is if you were going to use cold front why would you switch to NF? the whole purpose of cold front is from necros deathborn and the legendary so going NF and cold front would be a waste. if you're doing under 20s just go glacial and you can switch between NF and necro depending on the dungeon :)
@bytigrox2 жыл бұрын
hi!! thx for the guide, one questions, How do you disable spell alerts by default?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
its in interface and either display or combat you can turn spell opacity to 0
@GamechangerAUT2 жыл бұрын
On which slot do you pref to craft the covenant legandary on and why ? (sry if i miss'd it in the video) ^^
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Feet, gives intellect and isnt a tier slot. I cover it at the start of my double legendaries video. Later on in the tier people will likely swap it to their tier slot piece with the worst stats.
@Kaueasmarques2 жыл бұрын
Heyyy, while using coldfront on aoe and NOT on deathborne, do I use ice lances proc normally (even if not using the splitting ice) or only spam frostbolts and flurry?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Play normally
@Kaueasmarques2 жыл бұрын
@@Manather thank you!!!
@alexcoppik36412 жыл бұрын
yo really liked the video, can you maybe make a video on what Addons you use? :) or maybe just put them in the description if you dont want to make a video on it :D
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
I have one from a few months ago, nothing's changed except I've moved my ui a bit with the same addons.
@killuazoldyke12 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@stefanalexandrumarius52672 жыл бұрын
I have a question. i could not find it on the mage discord. can you - in a future video or a response here - say which combo legos go for each dungeon? you do say it in some parts like 26:15 but would really like to know. thank you so much and awesome video. saved it to look again tonight and test out myself a few
@stefanalexandrumarius52672 жыл бұрын
forgot to mention that for 19+ dungeons was the question
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
mplus.subcreation.net/frost-mage.html this gives you a really good idea of the combos people run per dungeon and gear/talents too.
@tudorstefancu8012 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on Glacial Fragments on 5+ targets?
@Islandi3202 жыл бұрын
In pure single target as necrolord with slick ice. Are you still using ice lance in deathborn like the typical frost rotation of managing your procs?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Islandi3202 жыл бұрын
@@Manather awesome thanks man
@o.g30282 жыл бұрын
me strugling to understand what he said and happy to catch few words. since even subtitle is not working for his hardcore "sleepy " american accent . i mean even for them he is a " ultimate english class pass test".if you can understand more then 35% of he said. your passed.. :D
@chrisclarke732 жыл бұрын
When you are explaining the SLick AOE Ice opener, you say Blizzard, Frozen orb, Icy Veins, reactive Frost Nova. But if you are Necrolrd, at what point do you pop Deathborne?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
before blizzard, but that was also meant to be the general rotation for aoe, not tied to deathborne.
@BK-yh3jy2 жыл бұрын
This is really helpful but I have trouble understanding you when you go from speaking in a clear voice to a distorted vocal fry I have difficulty comprehending your words.
@monitorenettel26702 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the guide, one question... using slick ice is it normal for me to get frostbolt as the first damage after finishing a dungeon?
@equaleffect2 жыл бұрын
Just double checking, should we be using comet storm on single target in deathborne?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
yes
@Leandrewz0r2 жыл бұрын
With the cold front legendary I didn't understand the bone chilling tallent very well. Its purpose is to crit comet storm? Or is it to crit the blizards? How should I use this talent and why its better than lonely winter for this legendary? The orbs from the legendary proc the freezing rain talent and thats why its picked here, right?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Use the water elemental freeze to shatter your comet storm from your tier set. Its better aoe damage as opposed to stronger single target with lonely winter. Freezing rain is not procced by the orbs from cold front, you just have a lot of times of ignoring ice lance in aoe so its the best option there and its also the best damage option for 5+ targets.
@Leandrewz0r2 жыл бұрын
@@Manather Ty very much! :D
@soakzx76172 жыл бұрын
Do you really run Bonechilling with CF? I feel like Lonely Winter is more valuable since you put more value on Frostbolts
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
CF puts more value on frozen orb as well. Its slick ice that really puts a lot of value on frostbolt, with cold front you do run lonely winter in some lower target count dungeons like ToP though
@soakzx76172 жыл бұрын
@@Manather Ahh ok got it, that makes more sense, thanks!
@mariostrbac55692 жыл бұрын
Hi Manather. How did you unlock all 278 conuits?
@alberto72112 жыл бұрын
nice video dude
@Zachsuk2 жыл бұрын
How do you only show the mage cast bar on your screen? I don't want to see all the other icons from the afenar weakaura
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
I removed it from the weak aura group then deleted the group
@zkoldz2 жыл бұрын
after trying out frost, do you guys feel it weird that its a bad design? its like if we see the talent, mostly revolves around ice lance to extend icy veins, ice lance stack for dmg %, then splitting ice, chain reaction but necrolord design with tier piece, literally tell you not to ice lance. which make most of the talents useless. its like tell you to look right and left at the same time.
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Tbh they likely didnt intend for this to be the playstyle, thats just the way it ended up mathematically. I think the cleaved frostbolts do look quite cool and were it not for them making so you ignore ice lance it would have heavily fit frosts playstyle and niche of cleave damage.
@zkoldz2 жыл бұрын
@@Manather its just wierd. cos going mythic +, with a 3min dps cd is really bad. still can forgive if its a 2min cd. furthermore like mention earlier.. we arent ice-lancing, which make thermal void pointless. it feels too much of a minus than thinking deathborne as a plus in value not sure about raids, but I believe there are better performing class than frost mage
@zkoldz2 жыл бұрын
actually instead of frostbolt that cleave, make it ice-lance x 3, instead of frost bolt , then make sense to have 3min deathborne , icy veins *blizzard , come i clap for you* (sarcasm)
@jt9324x2 жыл бұрын
@@zkoldz heres a tip for you mate :) press orb > icy veins > comet storm > frost nova :) that 3 minute cd is now a 0 minute cd. if you dont have icy veins up for every pack you're doing something wrong.
@imhighduded83862 жыл бұрын
got a question regarding the nerf the mages will get, what thoughts do you have about that? Do you still think frost mages are a good pick for high keys above 15?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Mages arent getting nerfed
@imhighduded83862 жыл бұрын
@@Manather I thought both the frozen orb and blizzard got nerfed about the 12% reduced dmg
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
@@imhighduded8386 Like 3 months ago, going into 9.2
@imhighduded83862 жыл бұрын
@@Manather oh hahah my bad x)
@philharmonic02 жыл бұрын
You said "there's the proc" when it was time to frost nova during aoe pull but I didn't see any indicators on the screen??
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
There will be a bright blue flash around your character, that is comet storm proccing.
@perpertrus2 жыл бұрын
hey tanks for the guide! one question, how is the rotation in pure single target with necro and frostburn?
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
normal
@perpertrus2 жыл бұрын
@@Manather But how u use icy veins late? at cd or wait to pair with deathborne?
@Nathality12 жыл бұрын
Do you not use gift of the lich conduit?
@benfuller34132 жыл бұрын
If you don't like and want to play necrolord for raids which covenant should you go with if not night fae
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Venthyr
@anthonygalko45102 жыл бұрын
whats the add on that puts the circle around your cursor?
@kemod81632 жыл бұрын
Why would you recommend FoF over Brain Freeze? Don’t you have to prioritize Brain Freeze over Fingers of Frost? Brain Freeze deals a lot more damage than a single FoF @manather
@Manather2 жыл бұрын
Fof with splitting ice crits on both targets, flurry essentially hits the second target with an unempowered ice lance. Generally in aoe you find your self in situations where you arent frostbolting and have both procs, so more of a statement to use fof first before flurry.