COMPLETE Multiclass Tier List - EVERY COMBO - Baldur's Gate 3 Honour Mode Guide Part 3

[@niedomyty00]

You've helped me more than you know. Thank you.

[@Cephalopocalypse]

Thanks so much! I really appreciate the generosity - glad the videos are helping!

[@kekvit_irae]

47:43 Counterpoint: Level 3 Warlock gives you Darkness and Devil's Sight, so you can stay Open Hand and still reap the benefits of Darkness WITH blindness immunity.

[@kerr354]

You forgot the 11 fighter/ 1 fighter multiclass smh

[@Kailokel]

There's really something special about the feeling of mixing and matching the charisma-based classes together. Once you open that box, it feels like playing a different game. It's almost a shame you don't a similar level of synergy with other class combos.

[@thomashightower7881]

Idk. The thief subclass mixes extremely well with a monk or a berserker barbarian.

[@drschwandi3687]

The fighter tier list is so funny

[@jorgcaprano7711]

Since 1h I am a member of your channel. Congratulations for all this magnificent character builds and the deep insights concerning BG3. I am totally in love with that game, I play cRPGs since I started university (1984) and BG3 is far off the best I ever had. Thanks to you and have a nice day!

[@Pugovka19]

Pairing Shadow monk with warlock is actually very cool. If you take two levels in Warlock you can get Devil's sight and then punch people in the dark to death 😌 You can also shadow step in darkness and basically teleport in the dark without getting blinded (ignoring magical darkness is of course possible with helldusk helmet but it's a very late game item). You get advantage, mobility and defense from it. And it's fun! Shadow ninja 🥷 It's a very particular build but definitely not D tier for me.

[@Pugovka19]

Mortal reminder is also not that bad to have on a Shadow monk. Since you will be attacking from stealth and in the darkness a lot, you get advantage and thus will crit often enough. And with Mortal reminder you will frighten on crit 🙂 Has worked well for me so far. I also am playing a half-drow, so I can use darkness without wasting my Ki as a racial spell. If you have warlock on your team, it's even better! Because they can also cast darkness and see in it. You will be punching and they will be eldritch blasting in the dark 😏

[@aaronmccarty1390]

Started my 2nd play through on a Monk and I’ve been waiting for this one to drop! Awesome work!

[@Fusako8]

Monk was the biggest surprise to me in BG3. I really enjoy its "in your face" style gameplay. The build I used to beat the game the first time through was 6 monk, 4 rogue into thief, and 2 fighter. I also had my monk wear the Risky Ring as advantage on all 10 attacks you can make in your first round of action is just too powerful. On my Karlach Origin playthrough I'm doing something similar; 6 monk, 3 thief, 3 barbarian. A bit of anti-synergy with rage competing with flurry of blows, but the extra 2d4 fire damage from soul coins mitigates it to a great degree.

[@davidgriffith1552]

⁠@@Fusako8TB Monk, thief, barbarian feels pretty on-lore for Karlach as well. Starts punching people, absolutely loses it even more, starts picking up chairs, gnomes, goblins, etc. and chucks them around until she absolutely explodes in fury…

[@caesor1023]

Nitpick on the Fighter/Paladin discussion. At 14:00, you mentioned that Paladin's spellcaster level improves at every even level. However, for half-casters, their spellcaster level rounds up (except for Paladin level 1/2 since Paladins don't get the ability to cast spells until level 2), so Paladin actually upgrades their spell slots every odd level. Doesn't change the overall evaluation imo, but wanted to point that out.

[@Cephalopocalypse]

Not exactly - the levels rounded up near release, and you'll still see this info online, but it was patched to round down (as it should per tabletop rules) and when you actually multiclass in game they round down. Try for example a paladin 5 sorc 2 - if it rounded up you'd expect to have 3rd level slots, but you'll only have level 2, then get 3rd level slots if you place a level into either sorcerer or paladin. It's confusing because monoclass paladins unlock new spell slots on odd levels, but that's how it works.

[@dimitrisdimitriadis4913]

@@Cephalopocalypse Another nitpick on the same segment: You said that mixing fighter levels in a paladin build caps your total spell level. I think this is one scenario where triple classing makes sense. An option I am trying out in my next run is Swords bard 6/Paladin 2/Fighter 2/Bard 2. At character level 8, you already have EA and a level 4 spellslot. In the endgame you have 3 level 4 spellslots, a level 5 one, and action surge. Edit: I realize that this is the "fighter/paladin" section and I'm talking about a character that starts off as neither, and has less than half the total levels in both, but I do intend to play it as a fighter/paladin, so there :)

[@cannyvalley8522]

Fun fact: there are 46 playable subclasses in BG3 including Oathbreaker. That amounts for whopping 1035 possible combinations of two subclasses. Edit: mathematically. In reality, you must subtract subclasses of the same class, thanks for correction.

[@disinin]

Don’t do this to him. You know he’s gonna do it.

[@praiseit4805]

I expect him to cover every one by the end of the month

[@Obileo346]

He's already said he intends to do all subclass combos. This man scares me sometimes.

[@Hoonsy2you]

Correction: While 46*45/2=1035 is correct, this would include having 2 subclasses of the same class (like being a Champion and Battlemaster). There are "just" 953 possible combinations.

[@cannyvalley8522]

@@Hoonsy2you Thank you! I knew I was missing something x_x

[@nottieru]

One reason to multiclass Monk/Warlock: Devil’s Sight. The one thing Shadow Monk lacks. If your Eversight Ring is occupied or there’s no slot for it.

[@e.schroeder474]

tip for anyone using Abjuration Wizard: make Gale a cleric, give him warding bond. Leave him at the camp. He has an out of combat heal reserved for when he's not in the party, meaning warding bond never kills him

[@mattcat83]

Fighter has so many S-tier classes, because of the one or two-level dips, that this ranking is not even all that useful. What I would like is a class ranking if and only if the second class were required to acquire at least five levels, with 7-5 or 6-6 splits. I'm much more interested in dual class concepts for my characters than this kind of "dip strategy" which is very min-maxy.

[@Norrieification]

Agreed. Like, for the Druid wizard I’m very intrigued by the 6/6 split for summoning, but an 11/1 split is just a Druid by a different name.

[@briangood7876]

Another great breakdown video set. In depth and insightful. Thank you

[@batruf11]

A minor comment is Fighter dips for OH monks are actually really good for builds that don't want to use Str Elixirs. You take 6 OH/ 4 Thief/ 2 Fighter, and while you only have 2 feats, you can use heavy armor and shields and not rely on Dex for AC. The 2nd feat can then be used for Alert for Initiative, though I typically take ASI +2 Str and rely on items (Mask Soul Perception, Hellrider Longbow and Sent Shield). The other thing is Action Surge is still really useful for Monks because you can use wholeness of body in the opening round, giving you +1 bonus action that round and for the following two rounds, then action surge and use stunning strike twice. So you can attack 8 times per round for three rounds. The big loss is unarmoured movement which can be mitigated by picking Wood Elf/Half Elf, or Githyanki for Misty step, and using Longstrider and Crushers ring. Failing that there's always Step of the Wind, albeit at the cost of a Ki point and BA

[@prkeene]

Frustratingly for Gish builds the Gloves of Battlemages Power remain broken since launch which limits itemization options for building up spell save DC. You can work around this a bit by going Fiend Warlock which gets burning hands and scorching ray, using a dipped weapon and use the hat of fire acuity but I think the helm slot is more valuable than gloves. Larian failing to patch that item after 8 months is a bummer.

[@CMiY0]

100% agree. I swear I always come back to thinking “man if only these gloves worked!” Diadem of arcane synergy is a must if you don’t want to feel like you’re hitting enemies with a wet noodle as a caster lol.

[@Tentacl]

Incredible video series. Just reinstalled BG3 because it made me feel like testing new combos.

[@fogheta]

I've found a smidge of use of Monk/Warlock with devils sight, esp with a shadow monk as you can get an easy in, while also mitigating the squishyness of them. Probably not worth it, but far better than anything in C tier imo

[@Amaan_OW]

Race tier list when 👀

[@SeemsLogical]

That's racist!

[@jimmywaxx1]

I know this is a multi class guide but as I'm playing my first honour mode playthrough and you mentioned monk I thought I'd help with the algorithm. Mono classed open hand monk has absolutely carried my playthrough vs boss fights until you can get the spell dc items. It's ability to isolate and disable bosses with stunning strike is incredibly powerful. I respecced out of monk when items became more prevalent but I basically ignored.most legendary abilities of bosses until the mid game.

[@cadesummers5866]

Honestly Monk / Paladin is worth the D tier, just to advise new player “don’t put these together”, the mix and match isn’t going to be fun, the weird shenanigans aren’t going to be fun, it’s probably just better avoided

[@lightfallonthehead3842]

i have run your bg3 tier lists at least 2 times through each, its great for when i am doing something else and need background noise cause and when i try to sleep cause i cant sleep in pure silence (i fall asleep halfway through and have to rewatch later)

[@CaptainBrave12]

When it comes to Open Hand Monk, do you think it's better to multiclass with Thief 8-4 or 9-3? I can't decide if it's worth to give up on Ki Resonation for the extra feat. Your vids are awesome and amazingly helpful btw!!!

[@Yobolight]

Main potential reason to 1 lvl dip warlock on a monk is for Hex, which adds up given all the attacks you’ll make. Some short-rest synergy there.

[@ProbeAway]

Yes, although you do give up a bonus action flurry of blows each time you use/reapply hex

[@Yobolight]

@@ProbeAway not saying its amazing but its worth considering when you throw in mortal reminder from goolock and a couple cantrips

[@ProbeAway]

@@Yobolight yeah mortal reminder would be good, given how many attacks you’re making. But you would need a way to get CHA high enough that enemies would fail the save reasonably often!

[@Yobolight]

@@ProbeAway you activate it enough of the time with a 10 or 12 Charisma to get good value in my experience. I took Hex, Hellish Rebuke, Friends, and Mage Hand for the spells.

[@cannyvalley8522]

Could devil sight from warlock 2 be something shadow monk might be interested in? Maybe on low difficulties..

[@oziejah]

I was thinking about doing that for my durge run since it seems so cool thematically, i would probably do fighter 1 for constitutión throws, monk 6 for shadow step, thief rogué 3 for bonus attack, then warlock 2 for devils sight but you lose the second fighter level for action surge, not sure how much that would Hurt the build, ideally you get the eversight ring that gives you immunity to blindness and just skip the warlock levels and your good.

[@spellandshield]

Just discovered this channel, absolutely fantastic Lord Cephalopocalypse!

[@lued123]

The only thing I can think of for Monk/Warlock is Shadow Monk with Devil's Sight. But I don't see that working very well in BG3. Maybe in tabletop.

[@Norrieification]

Way of Shadows monk plus Assassin Rogue is also both thematic and powerful, as if Monk plus Rogue wasn’t powerful enough!!

[@keetaroth]

Not starting as a sorcerer when multiclassing with fighter misses out on dialogue? I thought larian made it so you could see all multiclass dialogue 🙁

[@ProbeAway]

Now I'm curious about how everyone pronounces sorcadin. I've always used a hard 'c', probably because if I'm talking about a sorcerer I often abbreviate it to sorc. Thinking about it though, the soft 'c' is consistent with the pronunciation in sorcerer. It just sounds like sauce-adin, which I find hilarious 😂

[@isacsln]

My accents rhotic to it sounds more like source (s-or-s) adin.

[@ProbeAway]

@@isacsln I’m Australian so sauce and source sound basically the same to me lol

[@wawho9645]

A cheesy exploit for sorcerers multiclass with anything is to buy a bunch of potions of angelic reprieve (available from the merchant at moonrise, has 2 available per long rest/level)). Can create a bunch of sorcery points from level one and two spell slots, use the angelic reprieve potion to restore your level one and two spell slots. Rinse and repeat, creating spell slots, or have a reserve of sorcerery points for quickened and twinned spells. No longer long-rest dependent.

[@PokeballEX]

I don't see why it's a bad thing for a character to have some resources that recharge on a long rest and some that recharge on a short rest. Short rests are themselves a long rest resource that you are always going to be making use of anyway. Action Surge would not magically become better on wizards but worse on warlocks if it recharged on long rests instead of short rests, it would just be worse on all characters.

[@spadam0]

Great guide, I think multiclassing is a lot less intimidating now!

[@stagmckale]

Monk getting lots of attacks can pair ok with one level of GOO on a crit build.

[@Thoth728]

i wish these rankings would be highlighting the main class and the class you dip in. for example for fighter the argument would be that you are mainly looking to be a fighter and only want a few levels of other classes and comparing that to just being straight fighter. that way you can have the same class combo ranked differently depending on what your main class is. i think thats how most people multiclass characters, very rarely you see a perfect 6/6 split.

[@mikedickens848]

Highly disagree on monk/wiz evaluation. The utility wizard brings to monk is invaluable. Ritual cast jump before battle, better than sorcery cast to fly. Shield spell and you’re virtually untouchable. Bring a raven and you have a free blindness spell. Portant and you’ll never miss an important stunning strike. 6/6 split and you are your own haste machine. 5/2/2/3monk/wiz/fighter/rogue and there won’t be a single target you can’t get to on the battlefield.

[@GrimlockJarek]

What are your thoughts on a 6 Monk, 4 Rogue, 2 Divination Wizard to ensure Stunning strike goes through and then every attack in that turn? (Edit to fix it to BG3 rules for stunning strike)

[@cadesummers5866]

Artistry of war on evocation wizard with action surge is one of the most reliable nukes in the game honestly

[@jkap9828]

Gloom can’t do unarmed with ambush. You are totally ignoring shadow monk using weapons. Works well with Warlock. Dark and devils sight

[@ritamdeb2232]

Thanks!

[@Cephalopocalypse]

Thanks so much! I really appreciate the support - glad you're enjoying the videos! :D

[@elgenkommer1]

I hate Tavern Brawler as it is in this game. I will never use it. Can you do a monk build without it?

[@krishchaudhary7084]

So I tried the Abjuration Paladin you hinted at in this video a few weeks ago, and I don’t think the build worked out all that well tbh, but I’d love for you to take a crack at it. I did 5/6/1 Paladin Ab Wizard DB Sorcerer so I could get extra attack, maximise abjuration stacks and AoA, with the goal of soloing some of Act 3. I didn’t have great spell slot economy as far as I remember, I couldn’t tank hits nearly as impressively as the dedicated Ab Wizard build, so I went back to 10/2 Bardadin. Maybe you can make it work by using Warlock instead of Sorcerer!

[@thewanderers97]

4 rogue 8 fighter is great since you get 4 feats also would you recommend 1/11 fighter sorc over 2/10, trading the action surge for level 6 spell access??

[@TheIllusivePanda]

Can we get a Monk/Warlock/Wizard build for April fools please?

[@mattcat83]

There shouldn't be damaging uses of bonus actions at all; 5th edition made a big mistake by allowing it.

[@CreativeExcusesGaming]

Youve said monks are squishy so many times but they really dont have to be. They can easily snag 18 dex and wisdom for an 18 base AC and that only uses a single feat, and only sacrifices a tiny bit of health. Yes you can build them as a glass cannon, but they really dont need to be in order to be highly effective and a very reasonable melee fighter. My honor run used a weapon monk that had 18-22 unarmored AC throughout the game and plenty of health. Because elixirs solve the strength issue for monks (or just equip the club of hill giant strength) and you have plenty of room to build some armor class in on a tavern brawler monk too. Edit: and again, monks make the BEST melee controllers in the game, especially when paired with a battlemaster fighter as a weapon monk. You get excellent stunning strikes, topples, and battle maneuvers. Tavern brawler monks are very strong, but a weapon monk is JUST as strong, just in a different way.

[@Lykon]

Sorcadin is likely the best class combo in BG3 if you exclude exploits and stuff like magic missile builds.

[@Ahmad_code]

I have a level 9 character and I want some input. Opinions appreciated! 4 fighter, 4 sorcerer, 1 cleric. I have 2 options here, since I want another feat: A) 2 more levels in fighter + 1 in any class (Unsure what class I'd pick) B) 3 levels in cleric.

[@thesouldevouring7504]

Monk and warlock pair fine in a shadow theme team , in case u cant give any of the helmets or ring to see in the dark so a lvl 2 warlock on monk don't hurt has bad just to get devil sight and maybe the concentration spell hex to add a bit of damage but thats just my opinion, they also get resourse back with short rest so there...

[@geronuis2295]

for the Abjuration/Paladin (really any caster split) you can always use Infernal Rapier or Sylvan Scimitar to help alleviate MAD concerns no? I get they don't show up til late, but i think just playing full caster up til then is a viable solution.

[@northofself]

It may not be S-tier, nor did it come up in the Fighter-Paladin talk, but few will know highs and lows greater than crit fishing for smites with savage attacker, 3 levels in Champion and the rest of that min maxed loadout

[@frankovercrest2317]

3Rogue Assassin/6 swords bards and 2 Paladin is really fun

[@jamminkeys]

I did a GOO pact of the blade warlock 6 with champion fighter 6 character on a run, it was pretty awesome!

[@Twisttheawesome]

So one huge misstep with subclass assessment I see all the time is looking at what a character can do once they "come online", but not talking about the path to get there. A great example of this is Monk/Rogue. Yes, you get an insane number of attacks and can conserve your Ki. What is your progression though? Monk 3, then Rogue? Then you miss Tavern Brawler. 4? You miss extra attack. 5? Enjoy having 5 ki per short rest for the next 15 hours of gameplay, in which Rogue 1 and 2 aren't giving you very much. If you start with Rogue, you're probably in an even worse position as you're delaying extra attack 5 whole levels. Yes, the combo is amazing - but let's not forget we have an actual game to play. We don't just get given the levels for free and play an optimised build from minute 1 of the game. For those who have tried it; how do you actually go about Monk/Rogue? The best way it seems to do it is just to re-stat at level 8 from an 8th level Monk to Monk 5/Rogue 3.

[@rodolfokatz5098]

I completely get how much Monks get from some levels in rogue. But the other way around? I really didn’t get what rogues get from picking some levels in monk. I may be a bit slow, but it would be nice to explain a bit more what a Rogue get from monk.

[@toddparker514]

I feel that no matter whatbuild you do dexterity is better than heavy armor I'd rather have a higher dex than worry about heavy armor . Getting a higher AC with dex is batter than heavy armor .

[@violetbliss4399]

I wish so much you could make unarmed smites! Also while in druid form.

[@PapaTanduo]

very interesting!

[@andrerodon3921]

If you're going to dip into sorc with a monk why not go for the draconic bloodline to get the extra AC and hps? Fly is crap of you can already jump well...

[@Cephalopocalypse]

The sorc ac doesn't stack with monk's unarmored defense, and 1 hp is an incredibly small bonus

[@ramunasvasiliauskas6619]

Fighter with pala is A tier Pala with fighter is S tier. Some error

[@user-od4kr2tt4j]

I'm kinda confused. In paired with Fighter tier list, Paladin got A. But, why Fighter got S in paired with Paladin tier list?

[@Cephalopocalypse]

Just an error! Should have been in A, though it's close enough that I'm not too unhappy with it in S either

[@user-od4kr2tt4j]

@@Cephalopocalypse oh I see. Thanks for explaining.

[@bubosbamba4910]

Fighter 2 lvl dip going strong lol

[@mrexpatjohnny]

No 6/6 Monk/Spore Druid? Also, I found 2/5/5 Paladin/Sorc/Warlock to be very good!

[@franpschorr3646]

If you take 7 eldritch knight and 5 pact or the blade warlock. Can you cast eldritch blast with your action and then attack multiple times with the knights lvl 7 class feature and pact of the blades extra attack? Basically can I use that extra attack with this bonus action in this specific build. I know it reads like you can’t but the warlock attack is weird and I feel like it’s worth testing.

[@user-sc7xn3fl5f]

Cheers !

[@singincowboy]

So, there's 1 video left, with the two most ridiculously good multi classes, a bunch of junk, and one ive never heard of people doing but works nicely(roguelock)

[@XxThe_ExiledxX]

Help me understand why I want fighter 3 ranger 3 bard 6 for a great archer? I only get one feat so either max Dex or sharpshooter. I still don't really understand exactly everything about the game and it's mechanics but I would think having more feats would be better right?

[@common_undead]

You could go fighter 2/ranger 4/bard 6 to still get 2 feats. The primary split you want is bard 6 for the ranged slashing flourish + extra attack, ranger 3 for gloomstalker's bonuses and fighter 2 for action surge. After that, if you go ranger 4, you can get an extra feat, or you can go fighter 3 for battlemaster subclass, which will allow you to get precision attack, which is a pretty good boost to accuracy, or champion for extra crit chance, or EK for the shield spell as defensive utility. Personally, you can get 20 in a stat even without investing in any ASIs due to 17 (starting) + 1 from hag's hair and then +2 from mirror of loss, so I don't consider a main character archer to be very feat intensive, especially since the archery fighting style gives you a flat +2 bonus to attack, which puts you to the equivalent of 24 dex for attack rolls when using bows/crossbows, and there are ways to boost your hit chances even further via gear.

[@thatguy00271]

This makes fighter look overwhelmingly as the top 1 class

[@Realmohg]

It just might be

[@Cephalopocalypse]

I'd be really interested to see the most common class level taken, if they have stats for that - paladin is the most commonly played Tav, but I bet across all builds fighter is the single most common level

[@AdrianFacchi]

I find it a bit odd that Fighter/Monk and Rogue/Monk both get S tier, when one is way better than the other one.

[@CommunismVCapitalism]

I love everything your doing here. But I’m begging you to play with cleric monk. You have Fighter monk as S tier. I promise that a monk with cleric powers is a better monk than a monk with action surge. I’m not saying you have to agree with me. I just think you haven’t seen the appeal of punching with bonus actions with your cleric with spirit guardians 😊

[@Wolferys]

You had a mistake in the paladin multiclass table, you put fighter in S tier when it was A earlier

[@Cephalopocalypse]

Yep, my bad! Luckily it's close enough to S tier that it won't confuse anyone too badly anyways

[@tobiaskoran6787]

We need arrows tierlist now and after that enemy category tierlist (Tara monstrosity supremacy) and once you take a breather you could very well do damage and resistance type tierlist, potentially extending that to surfaces tierlist and then tiers tierlist just for good measure.

[@FinalOven_Mint]

Rangers get heavy armor with ranger knight btw

[@shoulderdeepcloud3398]

i wanted a fair and balanced challenge, at level 3 fighter i realised that wasnt happening anymore, oops

[@mcheezy]

Does it help or hurt that I watch all my videos on 2x?

[@Jim-Bagel]

No Druid?

[@Cephalopocalypse]

This is part 3 - we covered Druids in part 2

[@ironhippo9679]

9

[@nilswagner1536]

There it is! First!

[@johnkai3359]

bro less talking, and more labels on your videos wtf

[@Cephalopocalypse]

bro manners bro

[@cerealjerk]

Multiclassing will be more fun with the lvl20 mod.

[@stupr1138]

5thief /7bm feels super good and it doesnt feel like your exploiting also 5 rogue for uncanny dodge with the agility armor feels like you can facetank most anything + all the proficiencies of rogue it sounds basic is basic and very fun

[@rodolfokatz5098]

Wouldn’t it be better to pick rogue 4 and 1 level of light cleric?

[@stupr1138]

@@rodolfokatz5098 I'm sorry I forgot to mention the cloak of displacement so it's 22 ish AC with disadvantage to hit you untill you get hit and then halving that 1st hit

[@rodolfokatz5098]

Fair enough if you have the cloak. Nevertheless, I do feel that uncanny dodge is a bit underwhelming since it’s only once per round. Maybe shield spell would be better? So, 4 levels rogue and 1 level wizard or sorcerer for shield spell?

[@stupr1138]

@@rodolfokatz5098 the thing is uncannydodge is its own thing what I mean is you can stack other things with it from the party like stoneskin from a caster etc. it all just works with it so what I use my tav for with his high AC, initiative and mobility is to just run in ala minsc and just being a tank basically also because my tav tends to move 1st my tav plays "keep away from my casters" really well

[@Norrieification]

Way of Shadows monk plus Assassin Rogue is also both thematic and powerful, as if Monk plus Rogue wasn’t powerful enough!!