LTx Showdown: Big Cam VS Small Cam

[@JoeyDiPar]

Would be cool to see the street tuning aspect after the dyno tune and how you fine tuned it

[@TheJMan1K]

Small cam car needs an MSD or ported LT2 intake. But for a relatively Street friendly build it’s got excellent numbers.

[@paintslinger16]

Really cool to see two popular choices side by side

[@MikeB85]

So basically the big cam Orange car made within like 40ish whp of what a heads/cam C6 Z06 will do? That's really impressive, good work!

[@djrr.zl1]

Sheeesh look at all those camaros lined up 😍😍😍😍

[@noltec420]

That ZR1 thoooo

[@LMBC6Brian]

Incorrect info. 2019 was the first year you could get the 10speed for the standard SS. 2021 is the first year you can get the 10 speed for the SS 1LE. That was manual only through 2020.

[@god1st.530]

They are often I remember a episode. Big cam vs small cam they was so wrong an had to bash vengeance racing in the process to make the video . It was a vengeance max effort cam. But they forget that was when cam only cars was running 9.7s . It was called cam only for a reason that's how I started at vengeance racing. So all I know is any Ls Lt car love a big cam an a 36 to 4000 stall . An that's a fact.

[@MartinPerez-ju9iw]

2020 you can get auto

[@houstonmade8327]

Your wrong , actually 2018 is the first year you could get the a10 for the ss .

[@tyranrainey]

@@houstonmade8327 you could get the 10 speed in fall of 2018 but it wasn’t for the 2018 Camaro. it was the 2019 Camaro that was made available for sale in 2018. 2016-2018 autos are all 8 speeds

[@Ej.504]

Only camaro that had the a10 before 2019 was a zl1 other than that it was the ss. the 1le got the auto in 2020

[@brettguth6020]

CSP Great job on the video! Really awesome see the 2 of them in the overlay. Explains all my wheel spin on the top end vs others....Love it! Thank you and great work!

[@shawnking6270]

Have you guys done any with the 10speed auto? I want to bring mine to you guys.

[@dannyh5700]

Cool builds on both, I would go for the smaller cam on mine too.

[@cemsengul16]

Small cam with big heads for a daily driver.

[@DadsDriveway]

Big cam wide LSA for the soon to be added blower as power is addictive.

[@bvp794]

I see my gto on the lift!

[@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast]

Nice

[@jimholesaw6597]

You putting a chevy engine in it 🙃

[@gdevonfarley]

I have to bring my 2016 SS to get some work done. I'm in the Poconos and will be dropping it off before spring.

[@FitzCity]

What was the specs for the small cam? Was a lash cap needed?

[@HioSSilver1999]

Car was having valvetrain issues with the big cam up top. Small cam did well. There would be virtually no difference in acceleration between those cars.

[@Battle_Garage]

Can we get some cam specs. Not sure what's considered big and small in this application.

[@chaosgaming6389]

Alright so how much is the install for the big boy in a 2017 auto? Lol i need to start saving up i guess...

[@Stupidboi1]

Now the Chevy crew just needs to use a self tuning device like ford has coming. It automatically adjusts for outside temps, humidity, elevation, pressure and fuel octane and e content all by itself. There’s even a company that has been doing self tuning devices for over 14 yrs now, at Vivid Racing in AZ.

[@PawlDunken]

Whats considered a small cam?

[@maxscal7537]

the amount of comeros this guy walked passes is nuts

[@chadpukaite3775]

Camaro's

[@maxscal7537]

@@chadpukaite3775 i knew i was spelling it wrong lol

[@RCbashingtheKRATON]

Nice job editing,,clean and watchable..

[@Stclairm1]

I guess a cam swap might as well include getting the heads ported. Might as well go all out. Thanks for the comparo!

[@Untamed_STI]

Wanna cam my 5th gen SS so bad, trying to save up the money lol. Great video, very informative as always

[@apollyon1118]

Throw a ls9 cam in it

[@Untamed_STI]

@@apollyon1118 Why? Lol. I’m looking for that chop, not terrible driveability (LS3), and of course, as good of power as I can get from a cam since I daily my car

[@apollyon1118]

@@Untamed_STI i had a LS3 as well, the ls9 cam added 54whp and had no drivability issues

[@apollyon1118]

@@Untamed_STI all for $100 plus gaskets, I think it was good for me. Pretty sleeper sounding lol, check out my account it did well against other vehicles

[@Untamed_STI]

@@apollyon1118 Not too shabby hmm

[@calebstevens6417]

What size cam did the orange one end up getting?

[@anthonybomicino3276]

A lot has to be attributed to the msd in the upper rpm

[@The_Drive_Inside]

Holy crap it’s weird seeing a car exactly like your own on a thumbnail 😂

[@Jesusprayerwarriorbw]

Any update on the TT kit for C8?

[@zachrozi3910]

What’s the price difference between these 2 ??

[@captain8960]

How much is all this set up cost for big cam

[@08turboSS]

They both made the same tq and only a 18 hp dif. it would be a drivers race or a 130 lb driver vs 210 lb and 6 gal of fuel vs 14.

[@SDGlock23]

Love it, need this for my '17 SS

[@jesuscuencar2274]

Need it for my '19 ss

[@_Mi1le]

@@jesuscuencar2274 need it for my 02 Z28

[@kingkole02]

What if you don’t drive an automatic?

[@milehighgimpster]

These engines love long tube headers though! That's quite a difference!

[@Jaylay-2390]

The sound is worth it if ur there allready bigcam

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

You can always run a smaller cam with tighter lobe separation and get both

[@lexusrcflover9175]

They both make strong numbers can't go wrong with either one that big cam sounded like it reved to the Moon tho which was awesome lol

[@SocalGT]

Time to invest in a clip-on mic.

[@Conway7]

Where is your shop? I want that set up for my6 gen

[@completestreetperformance]

West Chester, PA

[@modernmusclecar1904]

He guys new sub here. Im in Ontario Canada and a buddy of mine is buying a 2021 1le 10 speed. He wants heads and cam done right away. The really good ls shop close to us quoted 17k. I thought no way. They said its new and they are working on the tunes and stuff on their 2019 shop car. Does this sound right? Thanks.

[@MoonBoost]

Great Video! Love performance Comparo’s. More informational like dyno’s are supposed to be used for. Not swinging weiners around.

[@ss2cold247]

Just bought my Camaro 2ss trying any suggestions for getting started

[@LsXUnderground]

Cannot go wrong with a cold air intake and exhaust 👍🏻

[@ss2cold247]

@@LsXUnderground any suggestions I like the deeper tone rather than loud

[@LsXUnderground]

@@ss2cold247 peep the video description for the 6th gen Camaros. I put some recommendations in there. CSP 2in Headers or Kooks 2in headers mated to the factory dual mode is a great option. Loud/quiet when you want it lol

[@ss2cold247]

@@LsXUnderground thanks man appreciate keep up good content love it man 🔥🔥

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

Headers

[@08turboSS]

Never had to remove 75% of this stuff for cam job on LS2/3.

[@moisessevilla9630]

Whp?

[@crossingkey4978]

Im confused on the witness mark on cam from the fuel pump lobe? I thought they runn electric on in tank

[@bluenecross]

Direct injection uses a "low pressure" pump in the fuel tank and a "high pressure" pump on the engine that is driven by the camshaft.

[@crossingkey4978]

@@bluenecross o wow haha thanks for the info

[@PhillyDee215]

Big Cam all day🔥

[@brannonbarakat457]

I got a lil baby 220r cam in my gto, doesnt hook till 60 but it looses all the steam after 100 lol. The torques insane.

[@PhillyDee215]

@@brannonbarakat457 🤦‍♂️🤣is what it is....

[@brannonbarakat457]

@@PhillyDee215 must be new to the cam game? Sometimes them big cams get the gap, not always feasible to make peak power all the way at 5500 rpm lol.

[@PhillyDee215]

@@brannonbarakat457 I have the biggest cam possible in my buick V6... check out my dyno on my page. But big or small cam is better than stock....and it's all about what u want out of your build and or camshaft. Top end....sound....etc😉

[@amordeweso]

Might as well go big cam so you don’t ever have to

[@theflyingfox2602]

Hope to see that "DARK KNIGHT" out here in MD roads!! 0_0

[@jeredtapp5760]

Curious. Why’d you drop the pan?

[@sheldor73]

10qts bulky af

[@deanchapman2447]

love the color its best

[@Motoxin17]

Lol I like this guy. Is he the owner?

[@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq]

Need to exact same mods on both cars for a legit comparison. No ifs ands or buts.

[@DonDheon]

what is a "small cam"

[@Standyourground21]

It takes time to save up some money and then decide and pull the trigger on getting a cam done. But you no what pisses me off when the shop’s personnel act like it’s just another car on the conveyor belt. Your in the wrong business if you look bored and not excited about performance cars. A sign of a good shop is organization and a clean shop. Mind you there always seems to be a lot of nice cars there getting work done.

[@1slow.grandsport628]

I disagree, I had a cam installed in my c6 grandsport, and the shop i chose to do the work had an incredibly clean neat organized shop with alot of high performance cars worth more than mine. The mechanic work was fine. The tune was absolute garbage tho. I couldn't stand driving my car.

[@iAbdosh]

I had them tune my c7 when I was NA and even though I didn't have any work done by them, they still treated me like a was more than a customer. Got an amazing tour of both shops and Andrew and Alex took their time answering all the dumb questions. Couldn't have asked for a better experience. There's a reason why they're well respected and always booked out weeks if not months in advance.

[@iAbdosh]

@@1slow.grandsport628 Exactly this.

[@1slow.grandsport628]

@@iAbdosh I wasnt saying csp done my work. A local shop in georgia did, and the tune was garbage.

[@iAbdosh]

@@1slow.grandsport628 I know. I was agreeing with you that it doesn't matter how clean a shop may look is if they can't deliver results and quality work. And CSP does just that, they deliver.

[@corystansbury]

I think I'd go small in this case. That torque difference would not be subtle.

[@Upracefan]

Bigger is better!

[@Sweaner172]

small cam for California ;)

[@ericinfante1885]

So small cam or big cam folks?

[@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq]

Blk one got what???? Small cam, MSD and heads?? I thought he said something else that got covered up by the lift noise.

[@largelarry2126]

The big cam guy is out to impress someone and the small cam guy is out to win.

[@LineMUp321]

0:38 ... red, white and blue... MURICA!

[@xxmakeouthill23]

What do u do for a living

[@ahmedal-mawlani5284]

Small cam all day

[@RobertKohut]

Nice!!

[@猴哥-d5q]

wow

[@billgates5561]

Shop needs to be cleaned .

[@sj7624]

Why don't you get off your ass and go clean it for them!

[@RCbashingtheKRATON]

MUST HAVE VOTED FOR BIDEN,,LIBERAL ASSHOLE

[@IRONMANDAN1965]

@@RCbashingtheKRATON my state is red not like yours..

[@RCbashingtheKRATON]

@@IRONMANDAN1965 why did you VOTE BIDEN THEN.

[@IRONMANDAN1965]

@@RCbashingtheKRATON i didnt vote i was too busy with your mom..

[@timothywilson3785]

They look NA. Very impressive.

[@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq]

Ugh, I can't STAND the didge charger or Honda Accord look of the front end of the 2019 SS. Butt ugly.

[@Joshuapsalm]

Dam 561 Na

[@robertoc.4413]

Race them both

[@jackstoepfer1494]

I just emailed about a cam

[@natelsx]

Watched the hole video and no race ? Seriously

[@junitoss83]

I have the same shirt that he has in at the end lol

[@SIRICKO]

Where did your neck go ? lol

[@issacgonzalez100]

Weak no race

[@davidray4128]

Big cams suck more..

[@marcojordan1368]

I like a small cam

[@craigslue]

I understand your trying to sell cams but not very informative without more info than big cam small cam.

[@completestreetperformance]

Simplified mostly to show where trade offs can be.