Composite Decking Project Ep1: Recycled Plastic Frame

This is how we use our #carpentry skills to install our #recycled plastic sub framing ready for composite decking. Showing how we laid concrete blocks and use plastic posts for supports. Talking about maximum permissible spans, joist spacing, fixings and some of the details we'll be looking at in the next episode.

[@historian3290]

Best explained video on KZbin about installing composite decking. Top man.

[@gdr88]

You're like the father I never had. Thx Daddy!

[@simonbowler1]

😂😂😂👍🏻

[@call_the_beaver]

Loving the content Simon 🔥 Clear, concise and very instructional 👏

[@simonbowler1]

Thanks….. stay tuned for ep2 👍🏻

[@xxmrksxx]

Give it a few years mate, it wouldn't surprise me if you were offered a tv slot (If you wanted to go down that route) Great vid 👍

[@simonbowler1]

Thanks….. yes… I’d love tv slot! When do i start!

[@gregwade32]

I've built loads of frames in timber, but my next one is plastic. You covered every point I needed! 👍

[@philgriffiths5514]

Been looking at deck sub frames and by far this has been the best explained and detailed esp. for UK. Liked the step feature explained. Added to my clients new deck design. Great job Simon. 🤜

[@simonbowler1]

Thanks for watching, glad you were able to take something away from it 👍🏻

[@basilguts1786]

Professional guy👍

[@markbassett1562]

Thank you so much. Preparing mentally and physically to tackle a similar project. Such a helpful video. I am off to watch Part 2!

[@alexanderellison7054]

Well done for getting by onto utube Simon! Should have been here long time ago. 😊

[@simonbowler1]

Yes….. The hardest part was starting…… which I’ve done now….. let’s see where it goes 👍🏻😁

[@alexanderellison7054]

@@simonbowler1 it’s funny looking @ your IG you’d think you’ve been doing KZbin long before social media, like others in the construction industry. Well hope all goes well looking forward to the future 😎

[@michaeldavies4598]

Brilliant video again 👏👏

[@simonbowler1]

Thanks, hopefully you stick around for ep2 👍🏻

[@vicbridgland4463]

Nice job guys, clear concise and to the point. 👏👏👏

[@simonbowler1]

Thanks, that’s what I was aiming for 😁👍🏻

[@calcallabam5889]

Brilliant work again Simon, got a composite deck coming up and your videos are a great refresher 👍

[@simonbowler1]

You’re welcome, and thanks btw 👍🏻

[@sksecurityuk]

Another great video . Smashing work 😊

[@simonbowler1]

Thanks 👍🏻

[@fergalkehoe9325]

Lovely work 👏

[@simonbowler1]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@ritchiemclean]

Superb mate!

[@simonbowler1]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@rogerpianoking1945]

Great videos on the plastic frame and decking, but it’s very expensive. £41 a pop for those joist/boards on the website 😮. If you have it, you better make sure it’s put down correctly like simon demonstrates brilliantly.

[@nathanrochfortsmith]

Another great video MR Bowler 👏 keep them coming I take it Mark not getting in on the KZbin videos🤣

[@simonbowler1]

Mark is the genius behind the camera….. he prefers it on that side 👍🏻

[@shaunevison3526]

Great video again, I have recently found you on instagram and am enjoying all of you content. Very well put together.

[@simonbowler1]

Thanks for the support 👍🏻

[@glenfordspencer2987]

Amazing and very helpful video!

[@simonbowler1]

Glad it was helpful!

[@aproperyorkshirebuilder]

That deck will still be there when we have up and left this planet. I hope you have scribed your name into a joist

[@simonbowler1]

It’s definitely….. ‘built to last’ 👍🏻 yes, i’ll make sure i leave my makers mark, good idea 👌🏼

[@stevenjones1009]

👌

[@donnieboggs6239]

Wait a minute no Mark LOL

[@simonbowler1]

He was there….. just behind the camera! 👍🏻

[@Chris-os1kz]

When building any deck is it advisable to build with a surface fall? To avoid rain water sitting on top? Or does the water make its way through the gaps in the boards? Great job and looking forward to the next episode

[@simonbowler1]

Minimal fall is good, most water drains through the gaps between the boards 👍🏻

[@TheBrassmonkey87]

👍👍👍

[@simonbowler1]

Cheers fella 👊🏻

[@michelgroot6853]

Great job Simon, Question. Could you create an elevated deck with this subframe product? I need to go up by about 1.3 meters.

[@simonbowler1]

Yes, but part attention to the maximum permissible span…. Have s look at the Ecoscape website 👍🏻

[@michelgroot6853]

@@simonbowler1 Thank you Simon, I will have a look

[@andrewdenley6681]

Very informative video. I want to lay my decking boards at 45 degrees - will I ave t0 build a decking frame to suit this angle of final decking?

[@simonbowler1]

Good question. I would lay the joists at 45, but do check the website 👍🏻

[@andrewdenley6681]

Thanks...I guess I could lay the joists at an angle. That said, your video has given me a lot more confidence

[@garyking7687]

Great content as always Simon.👍 Does the frame just rest on top of concrete blocks? No fixings needed?

[@simonbowler1]

That’s how we’ve done it in this instance yes 👍🏻

[@richardrogers538]

Great job mate, just a quick question, where do you get your work trousers ? Thanks 👍🏻

[@simonbowler1]

Thanks, they are from snickers 👍🏻

[@andrewdenley6681]

About to start my new decking, (yeah, its taken a while to get here!) I note you secure your deck frame with screws, some sites suggest allowing 4mm expansion joints when using composite framing?

[@garvielloken3929]

Nooice!

[@simonbowler1]

Thanks 😁👍🏻

[@globalgreenbuilds]

Very impressive mate I’m going to use this in my garden and clients as well, where do you get your materials from

[@simonbowler1]

This whole project will be done with products from Ecoscape…. 👍🏻

[@globalgreenbuilds]

Cheers Simon

[@simonbowler1]

You’re welcome…. Their website is brilliant….. And you might see a familiar face on their aswell 👍🏻

[@iwantthemoonback4198]

Is the frame attached to the ground in anyway to stop it moving?

[@mike-sm8to]

notice you use no sub base for the concrete which the concrete blocks the attach onto is that wise as any where you read you require 75 to 100mm of sub base mot 1 compacted down, for patios pathways and shed bases especially with clay?

[@NiallQuigley]

This is a fantastic video. Thanks for sharing. Can I ask you is there much expansion? I am intending on using plastic as joist but I will have ledger boards so worried about possible expansion.

[@simonbowler1]

The best thing to do is check with the manufacturer and work to their guidelines 👍🏻

[@tomwilson5822]

Hi what is the best for the environment? Plastic or wood 😊

[@darrenwood422]

Does it cut the same as wood .or do you need specific blades

[@simonbowler1]

Good question, I used a rough cut blade in the chopsaw for this past. It does full it a little quicker than cutting timber, but it’s not prohibitive 👍🏻

[@shadijabeh9236]

Could you please mention where to buy it from including the base.

[@historian3290]

Ecospace, he mentioned it.

[@dexterincognito]

What bit size are you using for pilot holes for the 6.7 construction screw?

[@usernamey]

Do you attach the frame to the blocks?

[@simonbowler1]

No, not on this occassion

[@Raul28153]

there's a funny thing about recycled polymers. Doesn't matter which one it is. When they are injection molded the resin pellets (that's what the plastic bits are called n the industry) is heated to about 700 or so degrees F. Then, under the force of the injection Ram, the polymer is heated even more to upwards of 800 to 900 F during the shoot. Heat degrades all polymers. The injection m molding process is a heat cycle. To re-cycle the polymers, they have to be reheated to whatever temperature (in the area of 700F) to get them to blend together and is required to get a good mix and to pelletize it into resin pellets. Each heat cycle degrades the plastic more and more and more. You can't know how many heat cycles any given bit of recycled plastic might have already undergone. So anything made from recycled plastic is doomed to an early failure, thus necessitating the re-manufacturing of whatever product that it was made into in order to replace the failed one.. In the end, it's more costly, uses more resources, and really doesn't save anything. But at least it isn't like metals which, thanks to recycling, have all been contaminated with Radioactivity from 1944 Japan and Chernoble and other places. Who'd have thought the human race would wipe itself out by recycling?