Con-Artist or Kidnapped Victim? | Law & Order SVU

[@denisegiroux3637]

‘We got a dropper!!’ Fin knows how to lighten the mood

[@VGJoker]

Y'know, as bad as it was for her to lie to the family like that, I gotta commend Kristen for what she did at the end. She didn't have to expose Nikki after what she told her. It wasn't any of her business. She could've just gone home with her mom and forget the whole thing. But she MADE IT her business and she took the time to go back, expose Nikki's crime, and provide closure on Heather's disappearance before she left. Edit: Thinking about it now, her father lied to her about her mother for years. She probably thought about Nikki and her mom lying to the rest of their family, saw it as the same thing she went through, and felt like she couldn't just leave, knowing someone else was going through what she did.

[@lukerosales5879]

@VGJoker well the family understood WHY she had to lie. Her own biological father kidnapped, chained her up and r4ped her for so many years and had the gall to tell her that her mom died, destroying any hope she had left. As for Nikki, she was a junkie plain and simple. Honestly if I were the eldest sister I would've let her jump for what she did - murdering her sister so she could keep getting high is outright unforgivable. What Kirsten did given her circumstances was forgivable to a degree, if her lie stuck longer then her father wouldn't have been able to get to her.

[@Jackie-McCann]

“I couldn’t lose two daughters…” Yeah, well you lost the rest of the family by letting them hold on to false hope that she was still alive for the last 4 years!

[@TL2354]

It wasn’t real

[@joeminier1736]

On top of that going to prison for being accessory to that murder by knowingly cover for Niki.

[@MommyHadALittleOne]

Yeah, if I were the older daughter, I wouldn’t have ever spoken to her again

[@lukerosales5879]

"What was I supposed to do?" Let your junkie daughter suffer the consequences of her actions? She had no remorse killing her own sister just so she could keep getting high.

[@khaotictrash]

Exactly! And the mother is just as bad if not even worse, she had to have known why and didn’t send her daughter to detox/rehab or counseling for her substance abuse 😒

[@lukerosales5879]

@khaotictrash it's worse when you realise the eldest daughter was still hopeful that Heather was still alive the entire time. Two of her family members knew she was dead and she had been lied to by both of them.

[@CherryBlossomBlyue]

Not keep getting high, just keep her secret

[@lukerosales5879]

@CherryBlossomBlyue same thing. It's not like they would've thrown that spoiled junkie out, they would've gotten her help even if after what she did to Heather she didn't deserve it.

[@rarehearts2602]

“She was gonna tell mom and dad” so you’d rather kill your own sister to keep her from talking than deal with the consequences from your parents?🙄

[@nickerskine6326]

she wasn't even her real sister.

[@vieira9117]

@@nickerskine6326 She was talking about the real Heather who found out about Nikki using drugs

[@dietotaku]

one wonders if she didn't make the right call after all. it would seem her parents are more bothered by their daughter using drugs than killing her own sister...

[@lukerosales5879]

@rarehearts2602 honestly I would've have blamed the eldest sister if she let Nikki jump. She killed her younger sister, then led her on for YEARS. Like how entitled do you have to be to do something so heinous.

[@joeminier1736]

Which is why the mother shouldn’t have enabled her crimes considering she would kill again to cover for herself. Now she and the daughter are both going to prison.

[@NY4Life]

5:08-We’ve got a runner! THWACK! 5:17 We’ve got a dropper! 😂 Oh how I wish we had the full interrogation scene

[@tagz12345]

This was based on a true story kind of, a serial imposter called Frederic Bourdin claimed to be a missing child from the U.S., he had a French accent and completely different facial features. When he met with the family it seemed like the sister was coaching him to give all the right answers so that they could declare he was the missing child which seems sketchy now and some people believe that someone in the family was responsible for killing the original child and that was why they were so eager to take in the imposter.

[@DokiDarling.123]

I actually have a book about this guy, and you know this family ks messed up when the Serial Imposter himself later said he was also unnerved by them being very accepting and encouraging of it all, also believing that they may have done somwthing judging by the way they talked about their "deliquent" son Btw, Fredic apparently has been doing much better and has a wife and daughter

[@sarahlelys9268]

@@DokiDarling.123 Frédéric Bourdin is not doing that much better. His wife accused him of domestic violence and he is forbidden from seeing his children. He also apparently impersonates twelve-year-olds on Fortnite, if his Wikipedia page is to be believed.

[@judycroteau482]

@@sarahlelys9268Yikes!

[@Xs2...]

Ice T's "we got a dropper", hilarious !

[@mikeyquinn2254]

I was ready to type this

[@seangriffin2053]

"Why did you pick us?" Because the truth always finds a way to surface.

[@Animestar21]

Profound

[@leeammorris1268]

This one really pissed me off. That girl, Nikki, seriously killed her own sister because she was going to tell their parents she was doing drugs?? Are you f*cking kidding me?! For some meaningless sh*t like that, she pushed her little sister down a chimney stack!! And then she was going to do the same thing to Kristin, the girl who pretended to be Heather, who was a childhood abuse victim may I add, before Liv, Elliot, and Erica showed up in time to stop her. AND, as the cherry on top of this "These People Are All So Full Of Sh*t" Sundae, Mrs. Hallander, their mother, knew about what Nikki did and didn't say anything. For years. I get that she didn't want to lose another daughter, but for f*ck's sake Ma'am, she pushed your youngest child down a chimney!!

[@RunicSigils]

It's not real. It's meant to be dramatic.

[@TL2354]

You need a life

[@MorganLuevanos]

@@RunicSigils So what? If it’s fiction why take the time to comment on it.. no point.

[@khaotictrash]

@@RunicSigils Every single episode is actually closely related to real cases, so something like this has definitely happened in way more than just one family in the entire world, and worse.

[@lukerosales5879]

@@RunicSigils SVU takes a lot from real-life cases. And sometimes real people are willing to do heinous acts to their own family members for stunts like this.

[@jonathancineus6424]

😳 I miss those crazy good cases full of shocking twists and turns that kept you on the edge of your seat right until the end of the episode.

[@Carnage7209]

Too much soap opera style episodes. I don't hate it, but it's certainly not as good as it used to be.

[@12thDecember]

A girl being gone only 4 years and her mother doesn't recognize her, especially with those beautiful eyes? There must be more to this.

[@BethBlack-q7p]

Yeah, it's called tv entertainment. 😂😅

[@dietotaku]

because it wasn't actually her daughter. this seems to be loosely based on the real-life case of bobby dunbar, who was "returned" amidst conflicting claims of his true identity and was only found by DNA testing decades later to not, in fact, be bobby dunbar.

[@benjamintriplett3]

The mom knew her daughter was dead. But she was covering for her middle daughter that's why she didn't recognize that girl because she knew it wasn't her daughter.

[@codyclaeys2008]

​@dietotaku half is the other half is based on Elizabeth Fritzel who from 18 to 42 was trapped in her basemnt by her father by the time she finally escaped and called the police she had birthed 7 kids by him 😢

[@veronicam.9396]

The mother knew Nikki had killed Heather, so she knew the girl at the door was not her daughter.

[@jraoulmer9962]

Two things in this episode disgusted me: 1. The father kidnapping, abusing, & raping Kristen 2. The mother was aware what Nikki did to Heather, but kept it secret because she didn't want to risk losing her

[@rositchi5889]

Which explains why she truly had no idea who the girl was in the beginning, she knew the truth already.

[@imperialpartymusic]

When the suspect started running, I knew Finn was going to be behind the building 😂😂

[@benjamintriplett3]

The mom is going to prison for concealing a crime!

[@camgold2154]

Accessory after the fact.

[@benjamintriplett3]

@@camgold2154 i knew it was one of those.

[@AmazingJeston]

"We got a dropper" quote was awesome

[@sakurafalls2468]

This was such a sad case for everyone involved (except for Nicky). I don't blame Christen at all for wanting a family after being raped by her own father for six years. But of course I feel bad for everyone who thought she was Heather as well.

[@camgold2154]

What Kristen went through provides her mitigating circumstances.

[@lukerosales5879]

@@camgold2154 they dropped the charges if I remember correctly. It was that junkie Nikki who ruined everything because she preferred lying to her family to save her own skin.

[@lukerosales5879]

@@camgold2154 and the family would be understanding considering how heinous her father was.

[@wessltov]

"Why did you pick us?" I don't know, why did you threaten her instead of letting things run its course? She'd be found out sooner or later

[@brantfrans8595]

That mother was absolutely pathetic. And Nikki was a horrible person.

[@Ammar-pv8wr]

I watched this episode and this show was masterful in making us feel for Heather, then turn on her, then sympathize again.

[@MsTinkerbelle87]

This one makes me so sad for her poor sister left to pick up the pieces 🥺💔 This was made because of what happened to that little boy Nicholas Barclay, one of those ripped from the headlines epis.

[@ahoward3503]

So anyone else cry when Kristin found out her mom was alive?.....

[@falm9679]

We gotta DROPPER😂😂 CANT 😂 stop LAUGHING

[@geral096]

I felt so bad for her, all she wanted was a family that could love her, she was desesperate for a mother's love. I know how it feels

[@sarahhejab6596]

I like Fin’s style of What he said, and did do that abuser of the father. Plus, you can never get away with Fin.

[@francostevo9939]

I remember this episode. This girl really made my blood boil.

[@thomasdang6322]

The con artist or the sister that killed Heather? Because the sister I hated the most.

[@kittynorville9125]

Considering what her father put her through, can you blame her for wanting a normal family?

[@thomasdang6322]

@@kittynorville9125 exactly

[@TL2354]

Why? It wasn’t real

[@francostevo9939]

@@TL2354 what the hell are you talking b

[@YouTubeallowedmynametobestolen]

3:55 -- "Except they're mirror images." No, they're not. They are two different images. Yes, one stem points to the left, one to the right. But if they were mirror images, that would reverse which side the leaf with a curved line would be on. It's on the right in both images.

[@illbuyourniknak]

I’m really glad in the end that the Squad figured it out and Kristen was able to go home with her real mother. Imagine if she’d still been stuck with that monster she called a father, or had actually been taken in by that family of freaks…

[@ashleymarks3726]

how could a parent do that to their own child?!?!?

[@jenniferwilliams5478]

Her going to the hospital ruined the secret

[@johnnythao]

I think this episode was influenced by two real case's meshed into one story.

[@jstewlly4747]

Y'all do know most stories on L&O are based on true stories like this story is real people are weird and crazy like 95 percent are based on real cases

[@ElephantFilmWerks]

Elliot knew the moment she started talking

[@Lady_Glitter_Sparkles.]

5:13 Got a dropper

[@spencergardener2858]

5:17***

[@tayloradams3301]

“we got a dropper” 😂

[@IonnaEchols-o8d]

I believe that he stole her childhood away from her like this right now he doesn't want to be nice and really useful for apologizing for being mean to him like this right now he doesn't even notice that he made a wrong mistake to steal her childhood away from her personality

[@winsomefoster]

Runner and a dropper

[@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij]

This is unclear, can someone explain the ending. Why did Kristin go back to that family and what happened? How did she know etc Niki

[@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij]

I get it just idk how long the grandmother knew??

[@dietotaku]

@@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij heather caught nikki doing drugs & threatened to tell their parents, so nikki killed heather. their mom found out later but didn't tell anyone because she didn't want to lose nikki too. when kristen showed up, nikki knew it wasn't the real heather (because she had killed the real heather) and told kristen that what happened to heather was gonna happen to her (i.e. she was gonna kill kristen too). before kristen went home with her mom, she went to tell heather's mom what nikki had said to her so nikki tried to kill kristen the same way she had killed heather.

[@benjamintriplett3]

" Heather" saw a poster for the real Heather and thought she looked enough like her to pass as her and once she found out she confronted Nikki to figure out what happened to the real Heather and Nikki was going to kill her to so she wouldn't tell what happened to the real Heather.

[@anacuomo8560]

It's not really their daughter...it's a scam...the sister knows it because she really killed her sister.

[@trenyalarkin1244]

We got a dropper fin knows how to to lighten the mood

[@peculiarsugar]

the fact they did the same type of case twice. there was an EP later on that is the same.

[@BrandonPettitt-bw1mj]

What is the name of this episode I want to see the whole episode.

[@bettysmith4641]

Season 10 episode 11. Stranger

[@Sniperboy5551]

It’s always in the description

[@Durhandoni80]

There is only one trait that marks an evil person. It´s not taking responsibility for their actions.

[@victoriajenkins1424]

Um, there are plenty of evil people who admitted to their crimes and were duly punished. How would you even take responsibility for, say, killing dozens of people? Necromancy?

[@JanellNellis]

We got a runner We got a dropper

[@primeparodox7886]

i cant access any episodes in the first 12 seasons.on prime it says the access is not available due to expired licence or lease.its weird.i wish i knew why.

[@adomomcjinkies4787]

Ice-t with the falcon punch around 5:25

[@camgold2154]

The Season 19 episode Complicated essentially recycled the plot, with the missing daughter killed by an older sibling and one of the parents covering for them, though the imposter was hired by the parent. Other episodes I'd like to see clips from are Stolen from Season 3 and Design from Season 7.

[@sushiiuu4292]

Isn't this episode partially based on that one man (I can't remember the details) who basically "kidnapped" his own daughter because she was going to go out with a boyfriend and locked her in the basement for YEARS and raped her continuously? And she even gave birth to his kids 💀she only was able to escape after going to the hospital because one of the kids was dying and he agreed to take her to the hospital and that's when she took advantage of the situation and ran for help. Such a situation, but hearing this episode vaguely reminded me of it: obviously, they made it a bit different, but this case was sad and disgusting.

[@whywelovefilm7079]

I’m so confused. I thought the comment section would clear things up but it just confused me even more. Could some break what happened for me, please? Who the hell is Nikki? Did that girl pretending to be Heather actually know the real Heather? How did she know Nikki? What exactly did that grandmother know. So many unanswered questions…

[@marshajulessa2995]

Read under user Frankskin. The replies to his post explain

[@Kayce00000]

So, the Hollanders reported their daughter, Heather, missing. Not knowing at the time that Nikki had killed Heather because heather had seen her doing drugs and was going to tell. Mrs. Hollander found out later and chose to stay quiet because she didn’t want to lose two of her daughters. Fake Heather (Kristin) did not know Nikki or the the real Heather. When she showed up, she somehow figured out that Nikki had killed the real Heather; and went to warn the family. Which brings us to the rooftop.

[@StarFighters76]

"Con-Artist or Kidnapped Victim?" Why not both? Because that's what she is.

[@lewiscayla96]

In what way? She wasn’t kidnapped; her dad had her which wasn’t being kidnapped just a crappy situation and the new family didn’t really hold her hostage. Con artist and abuse victim yes but not a kidnapped victim.

[@TaylorsAngel18]

@@lewiscayla96 parental abduction is a real thing so she was still a kidnap victim. He kept her away from her mother to the point of lying and saying she died, kept her chained up, and he had disappeared with her 6 years prior. So yes she was a kidnap victim.

[@judylloyd7901]

​@@lewiscayla96 If one parent has legal custody and the other parent abducts the child, it's legally kidnapping.

[@CARL_093]

It got me thinking too🤔

[@sdaiwepm]

5:15 This is why I keep coming back!

[@snowman72891]

This was based on the Fritzl case in Austria. Google it. It was bone-chilling

[@bigfoot6671]

The reason the mom didn’t recognize her is because she knows for a fact the real heather was dead and kept it a secret for years

[@Mamamoo_318]

Please what episode is this?

[@wessltov]

Isn't this inspired by the same real event that inspired a couple movies a few years ago?

[@Ar7wen]

So Nikki pushed Heather off a building and disposed of the body how?

[@arielg7000]

so not cool man

[@heatherbowman9450]

12 days late 0:37

[@ChelseaSmitherson]

I mean girl could've also been Type O if both parents were A

[@kennedy4257]

Tbf it can't even be her fault cuz the daughter led on the whole time with the full knowledge it wasn't her

[@Sniperboy5551]

Like I always say, nothing good ever happens in Ohio.

[@agentwolf5305]

It’s odd that the thing that pisses me off the most about this episode was the part about the blood. That’s not how blood works and is extremely damaging information to get wrong. My mom is A. My dad is either A or B. I am A, too. My TWIN brother is O. No one else in my family is O. And yes we both are my fathers kids. It’s likely for a parent and child to have the same blood type but by no means a guarantee and saying otherwise can just ruin a bunch of relationships

[@sanaf3518]

The only thing they got wrong was when they said Heather can only be type A. Two type A parents can either produce type A or type O, if they're AO and AO; but if the parents are AA and AA, then the child will only be A-in which case the docs would be right; regardless the children wouldn’t be type B. So they weren't wrong. For your case, your parents are probably AO/BO and AO, which resulted in you and your twin having these blood types

[@freyamccauley]

I hate blasphemy.

[@larapalma3744]

Boring

[@Melissafoerginermilitary]

Tasha McLean

[@Melissafoerginermilitary]

Shawnakay Hamilton

[@ADivaForLife]

I’m confused

[@Melissafoerginermilitary]

30 pormort town center Plaza

[@jeannehall6546]

Oh boo hoo hoo, woo hoo hoo! No tears, she’s making everything up, and she’s so good at it she doesn’t even know what’s real and what’s not anymores! I do like Fin’s comeback to Stabler’s “We got a runner!” - “We got a dropper!”😊

[@Melissafoerginermilitary]

Kirk Campbell

[@trusha_tungare]

Josef Fritzl case anyone?

[@Melissafoerginermilitary]

Nichole Elizabeth findlater

[@AmoraJennings]

Amorajennings 🚓🚔

[@alexparrish8886]

Why does heather look like Bella Hadid before the surgery?

[@winsomefoster]

Heather story doesn't make sense

[@Melissafoerginermilitary]

Stephenie mari

[@RandomBurner]

Only reason I “disliked” this episode is because it was based on someone referred to as “The Chameleon”, that name was kind of annoying lol

[@nave712]

I hate it because of the creep father who felt entitled to his daughter

[@Melissafoerginermilitary]

Onelia williams mother

[@sandrar.morales9583]

Huh??

[@MarthaWoodworth-f9s]

Huh?

[@Melissafoerginermilitary]

Ivor tony Diana lobster

[@Melissafoerginermilitary]

Zaynx

[@Melissafoerginermilitary]

Nicki minaj

[@Melissafoerginermilitary]

Camel nail salon

[@jimpaoloabalde5427]

IDK, but Mariska Hargatay looks like the American version of the 13th Doctor...

[@Melissafoerginermilitary]

Vybz kartel

[@valentin2057]

I am still surprised, why Kristen didn´t go to jail? she impersonated another person, she´s a criminal

[@francostevo9939]

The thumbnail is getting on my nerves because of that distracting gritting teeth expression she is making. It’s getting on my nerves because now she is looking like a female version of Cameron Webber from general hospital and that boy gets on my nerves. Not to mention of over the top , over emotional gritting of his teeth is distracting

[@sheg1969]

Thumbnail?

[@francostevo9939]

@@sheg1969 the cover of this video. That is what a thumbnail is.

[@sheg1969]

@@francostevo9939 oh, like a thumbnail sketch.

[@TL2354]

You need a life

[@BrickedWall]

As bad as your story is, it never commands immediate belief. You have to provide evidence or evidence must be found. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.