CONAN The Making of COMIC BOOK Legend [Part 2]

[@22centman36]

thats probably why during the dvd commentary for the first conan movie, Arnold said to Milius, " We have to get together to do part 2 to the conan story" and it took a few minutes for both of them to remember Conan the destroyer LOL. I like both conan movies, but I agree with you, the second designed to be more commercial and friendly where the first one was about the brutality of the period.

[@donnis618]

My favorite comic book growing up Loved the art in Savage sword also

[@bourbonbigshot]

It was unfortunate that Roy Thomas and Gerry Conway had their script heavily rewritten. DeLaurentis never seemed to think that the script was important. His movies are usually visually impressive, but the scripts are generally patched together with a trowel.

[@joek600]

Thats why Milius was the man. He understood the restrictions of the medium and prefered to make a simpler though more deep story than a cartoony extravaganza that would be dated in 10 years. If you read the scenario treatments of Conan the Barbarian, you will see that it was plagued by unfilmable scenes. If they were going that way they would end up with a Roger Corman movie.

[@jamesj.combe-bouquet9830]

No mention of the genius of Conan comics BARRY WINDSOR SMITH ...

[@QuettaAnimations]

NICE

[@pypeworld]

@silentbob8201 I'm comparing the quality of the films production values, and not Robert E. Howard's interpretation of the character. The 1st flick still stands the test of time, as aposed to the unimaginative sequel.

[@mikechristie3183]

I found the tone, the villains, and the monsters of Conan the Destroyer to be much more true to the REH Conan. The fight scene with Dagoth was very Cthulhu-ish and the final fight scene with Wilt C was spectacular. The characterization of Conan I hated. I cringed whenever he pined/whined for "Valeria" and especially when he got drunk and hit his head on the cave ceiling. That was not Conan. Conan's (REH Conan's) relationship with women was very much like James Bond, when the next story started there was little mention of the previous relationships. There was casual, low-key but painful-to-talk-about mention of Belit (only in "Hour of the Dragon?") as there was often mention of Bond's wife in the movies, but that was it. As a longtime REH Conan reader I was always disturbed that Conan got so bent out of shape over a character that was not one of his great loves in the stories. That place was reserved for Belit or Zenobia (from Hour of the Dragon) only.

[@Chairman7w]

Hey look - Roy Thomas is getting all sweaty again.

[@fredkelly6953]

Of course the first Conan movie was unpalatable to Howard fans as the whole origin story was way way off the mark. I mean the wheel of fortune, from another era Thulsa Doom? I blame Oliver Stone and his Art house sensibilities but I thought the mood and sets were spot on. Arnold could have brooded a bit more, I felt like the only time in the movie that he looked like Conan was when he lifted his head in the pushing the wheel of fortune scene and the last shot of him on the throne, and that story will also be told. Mind you my idea of Conan comes from John Buscema but the Hyborian age was all from the books.

[@guileniam]

The first is an underrated masterpiece, the sequel is a bad 80s arnie flick that the first is oft mistaken for. Honestly the first Conan is as thematically deep as seven Samurai or the searchers and the musical score is one of the best ever made. Just youtube 'Conan mother beheading', or 'conan funeral scene'

[@sadlobster1]

Agreed but then, sequels sometimes fail to capture the majesty of the original

[@RAM_DOS]

They should have went with John Milius' script for Conan 2, because these guys murdered the movie franchise.

[@blackthorn956]

Sad that so many things didn't make it to the 2nd movie. Someone should do it, I liked the leech idea. Monsters should be startling, terrifying, not just a random whatever-obstacle.

[@Chillton]

00:20 That explains why the script was a mess :D And regarding staying true to the source material, well, if someting works in one medium doesn't mean it will translate the same into other.

[@shadowdance4666]

When was this interview?

[@flamingturd2550]

CONAN prays for MILIUS to direct him on 2015

[@pypeworld]

The 2nd Conan flick is a pale imitation compared to the 1981 original.

[@Arthagnou]

The Direction and special effects of the 2nd movie were terrible

[@silentbob8201]

@pypeworld and Conan the Barbarian 1982 is a pale imitation of the Books So both Arnold movies suck in their own ways.

[@sammysiljkovic9920]

man, that 2nd film was bad..

[@djgforce11]

Yeah it was pretty disappointing compared to the 1st one.

[@007beck9]

Sammy Siljkovic I enjoyed the second film

[@guileniam]

G Raw The first one is an underrated masterpiece. Its as thematically deep as Seven Samurai or The Searchers

[@da5idnz]

I quite enjoyed it. The monster was genuinely scary.

[@johnnedward1083]

Now we know who to blame for that mess of a movie.

[@kingstonwaters327]

so true,both movies and any thing to do with conan whether it be a movie or tv series were brutal,very poor adapations!

[@zulubro]

the sequel was weak. guess that's why there wasn't a third. i only give the original a B-. a C+ for the 2011 redux. none of them come close to capturing the mystery and adventure of the novels--or the comics for that matter!

[@basicbits6244]

See, Batwoman, you're not special.