Concentrating Hydrogen Peroxide from 3% to Above 90%

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Peter B

Peter B

5 жыл бұрын

Fractional vacuum distillation is used to concentrate hydrogen peroxide from the 3% version you can get at any store to the rocket fuel concentration of above 90%. Equipment list and some more details available at antenna-theory.com/high-test-p....

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@pedolski1927
@pedolski1927 2 жыл бұрын
"We have a 1 liter what ever this is called" Science at its peak 😂
@LerRhann
@LerRhann 3 жыл бұрын
Could you please lower your mic a bit or put it in another room? I can still kind of hear you if I crank up the volume all the way.
@suhaizibongsu8892
@suhaizibongsu8892 2 жыл бұрын
Dude😂..
@youngeshmoney
@youngeshmoney Жыл бұрын
You know you have a volume button right
@UrDadsFavouriteMaleEscort
@UrDadsFavouriteMaleEscort Жыл бұрын
@@youngeshmoney r/woosh
@bobbyc2768
@bobbyc2768 11 ай бұрын
​@@UrDadsFavouriteMaleEscortthat's not even a whoosh that's just not reading something before he wrote his reply lol
@UrDadsFavouriteMaleEscort
@UrDadsFavouriteMaleEscort 11 ай бұрын
@@bobbyc2768 r/doosh*
@notsogreat123
@notsogreat123 4 жыл бұрын
You might want to work on your audio level. I have my volume up all the way and still have trouble hearing you.
@MeMe-wh7tr
@MeMe-wh7tr 3 жыл бұрын
With the audio so low, I feel like I'm gonna get punked with a loud scary face at any moment.
@joecobra48
@joecobra48 3 жыл бұрын
This vids prolly a punk
@bobafruti
@bobafruti 3 жыл бұрын
He did when he turned on the vacuum pump 🤣
@Camwize
@Camwize 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the video for the strait shooting disclaimer!
@raptor4916
@raptor4916 4 жыл бұрын
A question and 3 suggestions 1 When you clean your still make sure you only use deionized water, most metal ions will catalytically decompose h2o2 to water and oxygen and generate a lot of heat which can lead to a thermal runaway detonation of your product, which can and will shatter glass, and in addition lead to a significant loss of product, I recommend you rinse all of your glassware with deionized water like 6 or 7 times 2 do you have a thermometer attached to your still head? tempeture readings tend to be much more accurate at determining the composition of a distillate than density measurements. You can get the Hydrogen Peroxide water system charts by an easy Google 2 since you have distallition equipment already I wouldn't bother with the open top breaker arrangement you lose a lot of hydrogen peroxide, yes I know its a pain in the ads to run a distillation on that amount of fluid but your yields will be much better.
@raptor4916
@raptor4916 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry if I come across as condescending, I'm a chemist, and I work with nasty stuff all the time and working with high test peroxide still causes me to go to maximium pucker factor, I've heard to many lab tales to dismiss the danger readily, have fun and stay safe.
@peterb7615
@peterb7615 4 жыл бұрын
How do you use a thermometer to determine the composition of the distillate? And yes I rinsed the equipment with distilled water, but didn't do it 6 or 7 times, just once or twice.
@KevinRange
@KevinRange 4 жыл бұрын
@@peterb7615 www.h2o2.com/technical-library/physical-chemical-properties/physical-properties/default.aspx?pid=22&name=Boiling-Points-and-Freezing-Points
@spacecomma4678
@spacecomma4678 4 жыл бұрын
raptor4916 I’ve been doing this for several years, making HTP for rocket engines, however I start w/ 34% (w/w). It’s not an easy task. Contamination is a major concern as most of the stabilizers and metal ion crud has to be removed. It also requires a long column (600 mm), a reflux splitter and fairly precise control of Ts & Ps. I also have a peroxide, cryo & moisture trap in the vacuum system. I have docs & pix if anyone would like to share info.
@cinoykaitharath5903
@cinoykaitharath5903 4 жыл бұрын
@@spacecomma4678 I'm not a chemist, so I don't know what you're talking about! But I want to try and use this for some early rocket projects. Can we share info? You can reach me at cinoykaitharath@gmail.com if you're available. Thanks!
@georgemocanu8574
@georgemocanu8574 3 жыл бұрын
The first is a strong thermal decomposition, you'll have almost water at the end :))
@EdwardTriesToScience
@EdwardTriesToScience 3 жыл бұрын
The distillation is done under vacuum so it vaporizes before decomposing
@blaquerDP
@blaquerDP 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdwardTriesToScience the first part though is what? Basically boiling it. I'd be surprised if that H2O2 had a concentration of 30% - The difference in density is probably due to stabilizers added to the commercialy available 3% peroxide. Vacuum distillation though should work but why heat it first? Stupid.
@EdwardTriesToScience
@EdwardTriesToScience 3 жыл бұрын
@@blaquerDP He's evaporating, not boiling, which can easily bring peroxide to 30%. Vacuum distillation would work to bring 3% to 30%, but you would need to use larger flasks, and have to distill the water over, re-pressurize the system, swap receiver flask, then vacuum it and then heat it again. Too labor intensive. The point of the distillation is to get rid of the stabilizers and impurities, not concentrating it. Don't try to win an argument on a topic you don't understand.
@blaquerDP
@blaquerDP 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdwardTriesToScience Son, do you know that H2O2 decomposes below 150C right? Even if he's heating it to 80 C... I know more than you do on the topic but you probably watched 3 episodes of NileRed and think you're the best chemist on the planet. For you NMR is probably a "dank kush strain" and whenever you see a spectrum you think its a faqin moutain drawing done by some kid. You also never worked in a lab if "using larger flasks+re-pressurizing then vacuum+heating" is a lot of work, that takes literally seconds with experience - Unless one flask more to wash is too much work for you princess. Also do you know what the stabilizers are and how they behave? From your reply I don't think so...
@EdwardTriesToScience
@EdwardTriesToScience 3 жыл бұрын
@@blaquerDP Well why don't you try doing it then if its so easy? And yes I don't understand how stabilizers work but at least I'm actually doing research on how they work. And yes peroxide does decompose but at low temperatures and in a clean container the decomposition is negligible. Theory is useless without backing by evidence so why don't you do it and make a video report about it?
@sutheeshpm5003
@sutheeshpm5003 2 жыл бұрын
what is the range of the temperature and pressure that can be used for the experiment? I have a vacuum pump that is capable of producing an absolute pressure of 80 mbar. How to find the operating temperature for this pressure condition.
@alexbuechele1183
@alexbuechele1183 3 жыл бұрын
Are you not drying your vacuum line to protect the pump?
@Bradysbergen
@Bradysbergen 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt it will considering the molecule structure, however will boiling hydrogen peroxide have any affect on the air around it?
@geeder9086
@geeder9086 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video... this reminds me of back when I bought some FG 35% HP & made the stupid mistake of underestimating it & treating like 3% by opening the bottle without gloves. The moment the cap came loose I heard a "pshhhh" of pressure released and a second later the palm of my hand was burning with pain. I looked at my hand nearly shit myself when I saw the skin was instantly bleached white as chalk. I really thought I had F's my hand over badly -- but with some rinsing in cold water the pain quickly subsided & the color came back. It really freaked me out and the effect was far faster than any acid or base. Now I'm looking online & only seeing 12% max -- it must have been restricted since I last got it.
@dx5242
@dx5242 2 жыл бұрын
It is restricted, unfortunately 😔
@geeder9086
@geeder9086 2 жыл бұрын
@@dx5242 I just got some 28.5% (result of home volume test) from Home Depot -- it cost $27 for a gallon. The only ingredient listed is H2O2 and the first MSDS I found said it was 30%, the second MSDS I found said 10-30%. But the warnings on the bottle are consistent with 30%. There's no color or odor to it -- it appears to be pure. A small pinch of permanganate causes an instant steam explosion. Here's a link to it at Home Depot: www.homedepot.com/p/Pequa-Super-Cess-Flo-P-101/202564268
@yaboioreos
@yaboioreos 2 жыл бұрын
@@geeder9086 the msds i found only said 15-20% solution however it is from april 1st 2000 so idk how reliable it is but where did you find yours
@phillipj1135
@phillipj1135 2 жыл бұрын
Probably because of terrorism in France a few years back where they used concentrated hydrogen peroxide in some sort of improvised explosive.
@bitTorrenter
@bitTorrenter Жыл бұрын
You can find 35% as Laundry Destainer, well at least here in the UK you can. I also noticed the instant charring effect. There was a little splatter on the outside of the container after I poured some out and I brushed my finger over it. Terrifying how quick it works. Imagine 50% or 70% H₂O₂!
@vxbrxnt
@vxbrxnt 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the hydrogen peroxide decompose upon heating?
@bunnykiller
@bunnykiller 11 ай бұрын
Ive wondered if one could create H2O2 at higher concentrations by bubbling ozone thru the 3% stuff... will it work?
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 8 ай бұрын
Ozone will decompose h2o2 forming H20 plus 2O2 molecules.
@scifiaudious2
@scifiaudious2 4 жыл бұрын
okay but what about the stabilizer in it
@Knatrick
@Knatrick 4 жыл бұрын
This video is about to go mega-viral.
@lazyjackass77
@lazyjackass77 3 жыл бұрын
Came here for the chemistry. Hoping for more in the future.
@FlaskFlash168
@FlaskFlash168 6 ай бұрын
i can smell all the moms coming to argue about this
@VVershCSIV
@VVershCSIV 3 жыл бұрын
Chemistry is so fascinating, I wish id paid more attention in school.
@bitTorrenter
@bitTorrenter Жыл бұрын
I'd loved experiments. Our teacher I found quite good. He made it engaging.
@ReapingTheHarvest
@ReapingTheHarvest 12 күн бұрын
School is for brainwashing. You can pay attention and learn what you want outside of school.
@mrbazinga564
@mrbazinga564 3 жыл бұрын
In the video 1 litre of 3% h202 is boiled down to 100ml of 30%. If I did the same with 12% h202, what would it become as far as concentration percentage?
@punishedgloyperstormtroope8098
@punishedgloyperstormtroope8098 3 жыл бұрын
I expect it would form an azeotrope with water and after 30% the vapours will be a mix of water and peroxide I expect.
@yayayayya4731
@yayayayya4731 3 жыл бұрын
Don't go above 30% using the boiling method
@darkling9545
@darkling9545 3 ай бұрын
Great video, no complaints
@cravenmoorehead7099
@cravenmoorehead7099 3 жыл бұрын
Love this guy....lets go surfin dude. Also the squiggly red yield line😅😂🤣😂😅
@tjc-gaby9687
@tjc-gaby9687 9 ай бұрын
hello could you make a video with 35% to over 90% H2O2 please. Sincerely
@falafell
@falafell 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, this video was incredibly useful on the subject, however, I am left with some questions. Firstly, is fractional/vacuum distillation absolutely necessary in order to get it to upwards of 99%? I have a regular distillation setup without a fractional column, and It would be great if I could just use that for the final distillation,
@peterb7615
@peterb7615 2 жыл бұрын
you could try. I'm not sure the boiling points are distinct enough
@dimaminiailo3723
@dimaminiailo3723 Жыл бұрын
You can, but the loss of peroxide will be incredibly huge. I strongly recommend to use a good column (300-500 mm Vigreux or something like). Brauer Inorganic synthesis might be useful also.
@falafell
@falafell Жыл бұрын
@@peterb7615 thanks, I recently got a column so I can do fractional after all. However, is a vacuum pump necessary as well?
@falafell
@falafell Жыл бұрын
@@dimaminiailo3723 thanks, I recently got a column so I can do fractional after all. However, is a vacuum pump necessary as well?
@antonsund7170
@antonsund7170 Жыл бұрын
@@falafell I don´t know if it´s still of interest, but however: A vacuum isn´t strictly necessary, but the rate of decomposition of h2o2 drastically increases with temperature. That said, You will loose a large amount of peroxide, if You work without vacuum. Espacially with a column, where the destillation typically takes much longer, the decomposition might become a problem. Also, be really carful when doing this. It might spontaneously combust, which is very dangerous. Keep a good blast shield between you and the distillation.
@Obi-JuanJacoby
@Obi-JuanJacoby Жыл бұрын
How did you test the concentration?
@jimmyfish632
@jimmyfish632 3 жыл бұрын
I like your style. Subscribed
@nakiabrown1976
@nakiabrown1976 2 жыл бұрын
All you have to do is free e the peroxide and pour it through a filter the ice will be frozen the pure peroxide will go through you can add the 10% distilled water afterwards
@nickscataglini7503
@nickscataglini7503 2 жыл бұрын
what is the highest concentration with open air heating?
@luccasween4280
@luccasween4280 Жыл бұрын
i would guess not much higher than 40% due to it thermally decomposing
@krazykillar4794
@krazykillar4794 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you need 90% hydrogen peroxide? Just curious 🤔 Because you can buy upto 35 % off the shelf . I also saw something called silver stabilised hydrogen peroxide, not sure I'd that's the same thing 🤔, that was 50 % concentration.
@firstmkb
@firstmkb 6 ай бұрын
Rocket fuel. A catalyst like silver or potassium permanganate will cause it to violently decompose into steam and oxygen. It’s easier on the environment than many other things like hydrazine or red fuming nitric acid.
@d.l.hutson9953
@d.l.hutson9953 11 ай бұрын
I did the same thing about 4 years it took a very long time but I was able to make some heavy duty nitric acid.
@d.l.hutson9953
@d.l.hutson9953 10 ай бұрын
Oh and fyi the boiling point for H2O and H2O2 are the same . But the freezing point is -56° difference.
@d.l.hutson9953
@d.l.hutson9953 4 ай бұрын
But what your not knowing is h2o and h2o2 have the same boiling temp. But freezing them is 0 deg to -52 deg for hydrogen peroxide.
@brookduran3585
@brookduran3585 4 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna use this to break down boxes bc i hate having to tear them by hand
@Preacher_.
@Preacher_. 3 жыл бұрын
Lolol
@prakharmishra3000
@prakharmishra3000 3 жыл бұрын
Add sulphuric acid to make pirhana solutions which will dissolve the contents of the box too
@Rachidasister
@Rachidasister 3 жыл бұрын
I have 29% hydrogen peroxide and I can't remember why I bought it. Not sure it is still good. How can I use it around the house?
@SF-fb6lv
@SF-fb6lv 3 жыл бұрын
I use 12% for cleaning any organic stain like the water that leaks out of potted plants onto stone floor, or stains in the sink. Might be good for bleaching bleach-resistant food stains too.
@geldundkokaine2569
@geldundkokaine2569 Жыл бұрын
In an innocent sense you could use it as a cleaner for organic stains and it's good for removing mold and you could simply dilute it to a lower range of 1-3% and use it for the usual stuff. In a less innocent sense you could use it to make an advanced party favor. though I image your supply is gone after a year at this point
@chiraldude
@chiraldude 6 ай бұрын
You can do this but it is dangerous. Above 60% or so H2O2 is capable of runaway decomposition. I worked at a company that was developing a H2O2 sterilization system that took 60%, concentrated it to 95% then flash evaporated it into a vacuum chamber. Every 20 cycles (or so) the solution would "explode" before reaching 95%. Not a problem as it was only 20ml and in a metal chamber but, the point is that we started with a fairly pure solution from an industrial supplier. Drug store peroxide comes with unknown amounts of additional "stuff" that could cause all sorts of problems. I recommend using a face shield and thick clothing so that when a batch does explode, you won't have to pick the glass shards out of your skin!
@supersnizelz
@supersnizelz 3 ай бұрын
this is critical in science the brunt of preparations should be safety it's what separates the amateur from the professional
@misc5831
@misc5831 Жыл бұрын
Why doesn't the peroxide evaporate and what happens to the stabilizers?
@peterb7615
@peterb7615 Жыл бұрын
stabilizers stay in the original solution. some peroxide is transferred to the secondary container, while water evaporates faster, increasing the concentration over time.
@sebastiancano29
@sebastiancano29 5 ай бұрын
Do you have the patent?
@randomhuman1965
@randomhuman1965 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@137bob3d
@137bob3d 4 жыл бұрын
using a fractioning column makes sense after thinking about it awhile. and its leading to finding the bp's of water & H202 at -28" of vacuum. overall you've been inspirational with a demo of your knowledge for those of us wanting the conc'd result and unsure how to get it. the items list via the 'antenna' link was well done. lastly , after searching for precision hydrometers and learning their high price the method you use to get %'s by just weighing a measured volume of H202 is smart when a ballpark value is good enough
@HicSvntDracones
@HicSvntDracones Жыл бұрын
Never had much luck evaporating it, but I have concentrated peroxide using the freezing method, h2o2 freezes at a little lower of a temp than H20, meaning the water will freeze first, but they are very close in temp, so you put it in the freezer until Ice crystals just start to form, like a slushie on top of the water, strain them out, and keep repeating. Granted, can't get anywhere near 3%, use to do this when I ran out of 20 Vol peroxide for bleaching my hair, works quite well.
@Preyhawk81
@Preyhawk81 Жыл бұрын
i think you can only concentrate it to 60% there is an point were both freeze at the same temperature around -55C
@HicSvntDracones
@HicSvntDracones Жыл бұрын
@@Preyhawk81 True, at some point I figure it would get hard to keep distilling, I only did this when I ran out of Developer for bleaching my hair, and it was quite effective, just no idea as to what percent I was getting, I just know that normal h2o2 did nothing to my hair, and after cold distilling a few times, it would bleach my hair in under 5 min
@klaus6178
@klaus6178 3 жыл бұрын
While boiling this if I breath in the steam from the hydrogen peroxide will it be harmful?
@Bangmomsmakebombs
@Bangmomsmakebombs 2 жыл бұрын
Its mainly oxygen and water, a few breaths should be good, the worst that can happen is a little dizziness from the oxygen if you breath too much of it.
@glynwatkins9968
@glynwatkins9968 4 жыл бұрын
cant u distill it or use powders to soak up the water?, yeh so u got boout 3rd yield of what u got
@calebroberts8515
@calebroberts8515 4 жыл бұрын
Possibly 3Amoleclar sieves but you would want to concentrate it first
@Aaron-zu3xn
@Aaron-zu3xn 3 жыл бұрын
@@calebroberts8515 what about epsom salt to pull the water out of it? bake your epsom salt in the oven before using it and it should pull out water right?
@EdwardTriesToScience
@EdwardTriesToScience 3 жыл бұрын
None of those would work. Molecular sieves break down peroxide since they are porus and some of the silicates in the sieves react. Magnesium sulfate won't work because such metal salts will break down hydrogen peroxide. He evaporated it down to 30% and vacuum distilled it to 90%
@thisoldminer
@thisoldminer 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you put a drop of it on a contaminated desk to see it turn to steam? :)
@dawdthdfh4543
@dawdthdfh4543 2 жыл бұрын
"its not flammable dont do anything stupid" someone: lets add some acetone to the peroxide then mix it then add hydrohloric acid to the mix, wonder what that will do a while later an explosion was heard and man was presented to emergency room with missing hands and face
@ThePeterDislikeShow
@ThePeterDislikeShow Ай бұрын
When I was in 8th grade, I had an earwax problem and cleaned my ears with peroxide everyday. Then we learned about this process in science class. In my infinite wisdom, I decided that a higher concentration of peroxide could clean my ears even better. So I went home and concentrated 3% peroxide into at least 15% and put a drop in my ear. Instantly, I couldn't hear out of that ear for 5 minutes. I was scared to death. I thought I had lost my hearing in one ear permanently.
@PlayerFORgamev
@PlayerFORgamev Ай бұрын
Here I am after never paying attention to chemistry in school. In my country any hydrogen peroxide above 3% is being monitored by authorities and you need to be a certified farmer to even be allowed to buy it. I just need it for cleaning my yellow plastics ;_;
@chemistryscuriosities
@chemistryscuriosities 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic!
@shiningirisheyes
@shiningirisheyes Жыл бұрын
thanks
@ponapoastro
@ponapoastro 10 ай бұрын
big thanks
@angry_zergling
@angry_zergling 3 жыл бұрын
Building your own ME-163, are we? I totally understand. Just watch that landing, I hear it can be a bit tricky!
@SF-fb6lv
@SF-fb6lv 3 жыл бұрын
V-2 also, don't forget that...
@lukahutinski9075
@lukahutinski9075 3 жыл бұрын
Im fairly sure hes doing a soyuz turbine gas generator for pump drive
@Preyhawk81
@Preyhawk81 2 жыл бұрын
Or an jet pack.
@donaldslayton2769
@donaldslayton2769 3 жыл бұрын
Headphones warning at 6:37
@glennkrieger
@glennkrieger Жыл бұрын
The problem here has been brought up already by a few commenters. I have worked with H2O2 up to concentrations of 57%. It starts to decompose in small amounts immediately after it is made. Even a 3% bottle will bloat if left in a warm environment. Heating H2O2 causes rapid decomposition and in an open air beaker the concentration of H2O2 after heating, although a smaller volume, is going to be quite low. At one point he says the density is "1.1" but doesn't show how he arrived at that. Something fishy is going on here in the beginning. I'm sure of it.
@peterb7615
@peterb7615 Жыл бұрын
"I'm sure of it"....anyway, I publish the methodology and the equipment list to make it as open as possible per the scientific method. Not sure what there would be to gain by doctoring anything. I also have a video of the reaction of this with silver for both the case of with and without stabilizers here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKrbZKGdfs2Zf5o
@omarjassar4650
@omarjassar4650 7 ай бұрын
Does it break down into water and O2 ?
@lrmackmcbride7498
@lrmackmcbride7498 2 ай бұрын
1L down to 42ml of 26% is a lot of decomposition but that is what I would expect. That is 36% yield.
@pachma405
@pachma405 3 жыл бұрын
How much will I need to break free of Earths atmosphere?
@luckuijken5451
@luckuijken5451 3 жыл бұрын
You gotta drink about 20 L, that'll do it
@yayayayya4731
@yayayayya4731 3 жыл бұрын
@@luckuijken5451 nah. 100gms of cocaine will do it for the guy
@ferrischemistry7879
@ferrischemistry7879 3 жыл бұрын
@@yayayayya4731 Yassenhammed
@LanaScott
@LanaScott 7 ай бұрын
Yay a new chemistry experiment for me to do at home
@fenderrexfender
@fenderrexfender Жыл бұрын
How how has this been up for sooooo long???
@peterb7615
@peterb7615 Жыл бұрын
it's simple science and not a concern to anyone, that's why
@chancesr4550
@chancesr4550 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question for the vacuum process. Why is the steam being cooled and not simply released? I understand why the vacuum is necessary to pull the steam away if I understood correctly but why cool it and not just let it disperse.
@TheSpacePirat
@TheSpacePirat 4 жыл бұрын
Because it would dispense half the time in your heated flask, and would take very long time.
@EdwardTriesToScience
@EdwardTriesToScience 3 жыл бұрын
The vacuum pump is to lower the boiling point of the peroxide. The fractioning column (the vertical glass tube with the bumps) is to help separate the water from the peroxide so the peroxide is concetrated.
@BackYardScience2000
@BackYardScience2000 3 жыл бұрын
Also, how are you going to release the steam if it is under vacuum? If you suddenly released it you would have to start the vacuuming down process all over again.
@myth-termoth1621
@myth-termoth1621 2 жыл бұрын
nice disclaimer
@glennfiddich2945
@glennfiddich2945 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, my dad's name is Peter B. aswell. Greetings, my fellow chemist
@otisdavies2611
@otisdavies2611 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video. It looks surprisingly like a meth lab. Lol. Where did you learn about increasing the strength of hydrogen peroxide ??? Definitely very interesting. What practical uses, aside from science experiments does concentrated hydrogen peroxide have.
@EdwardTriesToScience
@EdwardTriesToScience 3 жыл бұрын
You can find the info on wikipedia and youtube videos. Concetrated hydrogen peroxide is also known as hight test peroxide and is used in rockets
@otisdavies2611
@otisdavies2611 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdwardTriesToScience thank you for your response. Yes, very interesting. I would definitely like to know more about it. While I have no use for doing the experiment, I definitely find it very interesting. Let's face it, knowledge is key and without knowledge, we would still be in the stone age. Thanks again for your response. I will definitely research the subject. I find chemistry facinating and even though I have no means of doing any such experiments, it doesn't change the fact that it is interesting. My previous comment was in no way meant to be derogatory and I hope that you didn't perceive it as being so. Any, I'll check back again and see if you are doing other experiment's
@otisdavies2611
@otisdavies2611 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdwardTriesToScience in a rocket, I wonder how it is ignited and I also wonder if it has to be stored in sub zero temps to keep it stable. Actually I don't know why I am asking. I will just look at Wikipedia and see what it has to say. Is Wikipedia where you got the idea to try it. I wonder if there are any legal implications for doing such experiments. Anyway, thanks again for a very interesting video.
@ianworthington2324
@ianworthington2324 3 жыл бұрын
There's also a Russian paper on various methods, though behind a pay wall online. Any decent library should be able to get it for you.
@Bangmomsmakebombs
@Bangmomsmakebombs 2 жыл бұрын
@@otisdavies2611 Hydrogen peroxide is not ignited at all, rather it is decomposed with a catalysr. for the most part in the US it is legal to produce high test peroxide without special licensing, although if you plan on making a rocket you may need some licensing for that. h2o2 is surprisingly stable at room temperature as long as it doesnt come into contact with a catalyst. In rockets it is pressurized with nitrogen and forced through a catalyst bed and out of a nozzle.
@alexslab.4875
@alexslab.4875 Жыл бұрын
what is ur pfp
@nakiabrown1976
@nakiabrown1976 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if anybody is already said it's in the comments but all you have to do is freeze it and the water will freeze and the hydrogen won't real simple you could pretty much figure out how to constitute it with distilled water with the 10%
@firstmkb
@firstmkb 6 ай бұрын
They form an azeotrope and don’t separate out cleanly. Someone else said you can’t get past about 60% that way.
@omarjassar4650
@omarjassar4650 10 ай бұрын
What would happen if you spilled it ???
@LanaScott
@LanaScott 7 ай бұрын
Everything explodes, the whole world ends
@LanaScott
@LanaScott 7 ай бұрын
It will explode so much the sun will be swallowed up and burned, and so will the whole solar system.
@omarjassar4650
@omarjassar4650 7 ай бұрын
@@LanaScott OH NOOO , that is way worse than running with scissors
@USA_is_a_Republic
@USA_is_a_Republic Жыл бұрын
I could of sworn I heard him say “this is not flammable or anything “ at the end of his video. Concentrated H2o2 is extremely flammable. Drop that on just about anything but glass and watch it start a fire.
@firstmkb
@firstmkb 6 ай бұрын
H2O2 doesn’t combust, so isn’t considered flammable. It does decompose exothermically while producing oxygen, and is a strong oxidizer even without decomposing. If you’re soaked in gasoline, you’re flammable, but your friend playing with matches isn’t!
@All_Science
@All_Science 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I'm just stupid but wouldn't boiling the peroxide decompose it before the water boils? Idk.
@peterb7615
@peterb7615 4 жыл бұрын
hence the need for the vacuum distillation. boils at much lower temp
@All_Science
@All_Science 4 жыл бұрын
@@peterb7615 thanks now I know
@mw10259
@mw10259 4 жыл бұрын
@@peterb7615 I just used an old Mr Coffee machine and a new decanter , let it sit for a day on the hot plate till it's down to 90 mil. Burns the shit out of my fingers
@peterb7615
@peterb7615 4 жыл бұрын
@@mw10259 that won't get you above 30%. measure it
@mw10259
@mw10259 4 жыл бұрын
@@peterb7615 the secret is to place a damp sponge at the top of the lid so the water doesn't circulated back into the pot. gives me a percentage i need. What do you use 90% for anyway ?
@koca_coffee444
@koca_coffee444 2 жыл бұрын
I'm doing this for school work lets hope the guard still lets me enter.
@andrewnel3945
@andrewnel3945 3 жыл бұрын
Is it necessary to vacuum distil it ?
@peterb7615
@peterb7615 3 жыл бұрын
if you only boil it in open air the concentration won't get much above 30/40%. basically H2O2 will rapidly decompose to H2O+O2 at boiling point in open air
@ryansaeger9271
@ryansaeger9271 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, they're only like $100-200 for the whole set up. Reflux and distillation (reflux condenser is used for both purposes) are used so often in organic chem you'll want the set if you pursue chem.
@justarandomname420
@justarandomname420 2 жыл бұрын
It can also be frozen to concentration.
@nakiabrown1976
@nakiabrown1976 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterb7615 how bout just freeze it and the peroxide will stay liquid pour the through the solid ice , reconstitute the 10% with distilled water
@peterb7615
@peterb7615 2 жыл бұрын
@@nakiabrown1976 There is a freezing point difference, but it is not large. You could try it and see if it works, that would be interesting
@johntheawsomeful
@johntheawsomeful Жыл бұрын
Are you not literally turning this into 100% water? 😂
@leeknoz935
@leeknoz935 Жыл бұрын
The water distills over..your product stays behind...I think lol
@terrance_huang
@terrance_huang 2 жыл бұрын
can't hear anything...
@ekbergiw
@ekbergiw Жыл бұрын
If you boil each bottle individually you will have a higher yield
@janisrozenbaums3344
@janisrozenbaums3344 4 жыл бұрын
Water oleum!
@shoestringeng6473
@shoestringeng6473 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making a great DYI on concentrating 3% H2o2. I love the disclaimer! Now I see why it pays to just buy the 30% rather than make it. If you used a double boiler so that you did not exceed 212F (or 100C for the rest of the world) would that be too hot or to close to the boiling point? I thought 90% H2O2 was more unstable and reactive and that anything over 50% was to dangerous to handle, that was very enlightening to see. Didn't the Germans use that for the ME 163 rocket plan during WWII?
@peterb7615
@peterb7615 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if the Germans used it, but it was used in the Gemini program for some of the thrusters (changing position and direction I believe, not for takeoff). 90% H202 is not unstable with modest precautions. In open containers you can throw silver in there and it reacts fairly violently, but not an explosion. I have another video showing that
@fredjones2980
@fredjones2980 3 жыл бұрын
Normally it isn't that unstable, however it is much much more stable when you buy it from the store. If you ever look at the active ingredients it says "stabilized hydrogen peroxide". What this means is they added sodium citrate, sodium phytate, or some other carboxylate stabilizer that slows down the decomposition by quite a bit. Since the melting point of these stabilizers is quite high you can't remove them by boiling. Even with these stabilizers its highly recommended to have clean glass ware. www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemicals/oxidizing/oxiziding_hazards.html Over 91% hydrogen peroxide by weight (without stabilizers) is considered a class 4 oxidizer. Granted it likely wont self explode if not mixed with a fuel. Ammonium nitrate is considered a class 2 oxidizer and theres this great ansu (AN and sugar) vs anfo (AN and diesel/other oil fuels) video on youtube:kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5mrgISrrtpnZ68. Note that setting it on fire won't do that much but using a secondary explosive will... Lets just say 2020 Beirut explosion.
@suprememasteroftheuniverse
@suprememasteroftheuniverse 3 жыл бұрын
@@fredjones2980 your !GN()r@ncē for sure is not a bliss. Beirut? Supposedly, there was ONLY ammonium nitrate therefore no detonation. It's a lie. They had a missile compound running there, !d1()t.
@davemwangi05
@davemwangi05 3 жыл бұрын
@@suprememasteroftheuniverse You're disagree with the explanation they gave for Beirut? supposedly ammonium nitrate can explode by itself without oxidizers. Look at all it's elements, it's all gases N2, H2, and O2. And there was a ship carrying this fertilizer and it went bang, and it made a record in history as one of the biggest explosions ever.
@Aim54Delta
@Aim54Delta 3 жыл бұрын
@@suprememasteroftheuniverse Ammonium nitrate can and does detonate on its own under the right conditions. I am of the opinion that this cache of nitrate was deliberately 'abandoned' and was being used (or planned to be used) for munitions production. If you ask me, it was a stockpile taken out by Mossad. A missile isn't necessary. There again, there is a picture of some people welding on a door that is suspiciously identical to the door of that warehouse. So, there's a decent probability that the fire was started by classic TCN labor snafus.
@charlie-bucket
@charlie-bucket Жыл бұрын
Oh hehe youre responsible for my actions sir
@jtqthetieman
@jtqthetieman 3 жыл бұрын
Yo. Kool video but, I had an extremely hard time trying to hear and understand you. You had your audio way too quiet and you were mumbling WAY way too quiet. I did get that H2O2 takes more energy to evaporate than H2O which is new to me.
@firstmkb
@firstmkb 6 ай бұрын
Hey Peter! Thanks for posting this - I had no idea it was that simple to concentrate it that far! You have my sympathy re: so many comments about either just boiling it down or freezing to concentrate it. I told some of those people about how azeotropes complicate the process, but the questions didn’t end! Thanks again - off to watch your demo.
@ryhol5417
@ryhol5417 Жыл бұрын
Peroxides and ammonia at high concentrations make me sweat ALOT
@remaininganonymous4422
@remaininganonymous4422 3 жыл бұрын
"It puts the lotion on it's skin, or else it get's the hose again"
@kenstreet1769
@kenstreet1769 2 жыл бұрын
i couldnt hear what he was saying
@charlesmyers9765
@charlesmyers9765 Жыл бұрын
It's easier to start with 10% purchased from a beauty supply store.
@pjh9104
@pjh9104 3 жыл бұрын
KBilly Supersounds of the 70's just keeps on comin (no matter how stoned or tired or bored...)with this little dittie that reached up to 21 in may,the George Baker sellection ,Little Green Bag.....
@bananaman4477
@bananaman4477 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no, you reduced its H Y D R A T I O N
@polishonion6292
@polishonion6292 Ай бұрын
Your profile picture fits you
@TheSkaireKrowe
@TheSkaireKrowe 4 жыл бұрын
Buffalo Bill? That voice! I half expected to see moths and skin suits in the background. .. Nice job with the peroxide. Let's build some rocket engines!
@mw10259
@mw10259 4 жыл бұрын
LOL , NOW THAT'S FUNNY RIGHT THERE
@nakiabrown1976
@nakiabrown1976 2 жыл бұрын
All you need is a glass jar in a freezer and another glass jar to pour the pure peroxide after you filter it out,from the frozen water🤷
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 8 ай бұрын
This works to get it about 60%
@zoltankolumban1705
@zoltankolumban1705 4 жыл бұрын
You could skip all that hurdle just freezing H2O2
@alifbypy
@alifbypy 4 жыл бұрын
How is that?
@zoltankolumban1705
@zoltankolumban1705 4 жыл бұрын
@@alifbypy Put 100ml 3%peroxide in a 200ml plastic container ,than put it in the freezer ad wait.When the water became solid you can collect the almoust 95% peroxid from above the ice.Be careful !!!:-D
@alifbypy
@alifbypy 4 жыл бұрын
@@zoltankolumban1705 that sounds easy .. I'll try. Thanks for help
@Preyhawk81
@Preyhawk81 4 жыл бұрын
@@zoltankolumban1705 Are you sure this works? I thought there is an Temperature were both liquids freze together.
@zoltankolumban1705
@zoltankolumban1705 4 жыл бұрын
@@Preyhawk81 The freezing temperature is -0,432 ℃.You have to watch the process with attention.
@robinkastles9074
@robinkastles9074 11 ай бұрын
This is some high lvl Pasadena Angel in the laundry room type shit. Throw a pair of gloves made of an appropriate constitution tho pls.
@jamesbrandon8570
@jamesbrandon8570 Жыл бұрын
I did this when I was 14 trying to make teeth whitener
@Gokaes
@Gokaes 2 жыл бұрын
"its not flammable dont do anything stupid" someone: lets add some acetone and hydrochloric acid to the mix wonder what that will do a while later an explosion was heard and man was presented to emergency room with missing hands
@EdwardTriesToScience
@EdwardTriesToScience 2 жыл бұрын
TATP and other ketone peroxides are no joke
@GCharlesLangisChip
@GCharlesLangisChip 4 жыл бұрын
"Was she ahhhh. big fat person"???
@demandred1957
@demandred1957 3 жыл бұрын
yep, hella dangerous stuff to play with.
@firstnamesecondname5341
@firstnamesecondname5341 3 жыл бұрын
Bell Jet pack fuel ⛽️ 😁👍
@etienneguyot9069
@etienneguyot9069 4 жыл бұрын
Good job, nice demo!... But poor audio, please improve your microphone.
@idontknowmyfirstname69
@idontknowmyfirstname69 2 жыл бұрын
Man that vacuum pump either is unhealthy or you got it sitting on sheet metal with nothing under it... You may want to consider changing and flushing out the oil
@chasejohnson8326
@chasejohnson8326 2 жыл бұрын
Why is the FBI at my door?
@frankhornbuckle7529
@frankhornbuckle7529 4 жыл бұрын
You need to clean your mic.
@asstronix6657
@asstronix6657 Жыл бұрын
90%? You crazy man.... I can't believe it 😩😳 OK I watch your video, man 😣 scared 😳💪
@adriendeseck-herce2153
@adriendeseck-herce2153 7 ай бұрын
that dude does chemistry whitout knowing the name of the glassware 😑
@poweringindustrialization1246
@poweringindustrialization1246 2 жыл бұрын
Now inject that into a tick
@davidchristensen6908
@davidchristensen6908 9 ай бұрын
Sorry can’t hear ya. I am gone won’t be back.😊
@daveb9211
@daveb9211 Жыл бұрын
Buehler....Buehler.......Buehler....
@aeugh4200
@aeugh4200 9 ай бұрын
now its time to *put some ACETONE into there* jk dont lol
@donwackyaids1771
@donwackyaids1771 2 жыл бұрын
Fbi watchlist mode activate
@C6lter
@C6lter 2 жыл бұрын
Why would the fbi be suspicious of this?
@TheExplosiveGuy
@TheExplosiveGuy 4 жыл бұрын
You sound exactly like the guy from RCTestFlight lol.
@johnh8546
@johnh8546 8 ай бұрын
You can just concentrate it yourself. Water boils at 212°f hydrogen peroxide boils at 302°f so just get the solution to 250°f and keep it there. Of you know the volume going in and the volume coming out you know the concentration. If you over concebtrate add distilled water if under boil it more. There you go.
@firstmkb
@firstmkb 6 ай бұрын
It forms an azeotrope with water, and the peroxide will begin decomposing before all of the water is gone. Similar thing as distilling alcohol/water mixes. Alcohol boils first, but it always brings some water with it.
@haxboi5492
@haxboi5492 7 ай бұрын
Aaaand we're on a watchlist
@NCOGNTO
@NCOGNTO 2 ай бұрын
You called it . Pretty specific knowledge . Are you a fan of H202 ?
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