Concept2's StrengthErg First Look: Thoughts?

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@jeffp1377
@jeffp1377 Ай бұрын
I absolutely LOVE Concept2. They have all their replacement parts available to service every generation of their product and at reasonable prices. No one does that. Such a great company and product line.
@jeffsancricca7041
@jeffsancricca7041 25 күн бұрын
Totally agree!
@johnbarron4713
@johnbarron4713 Ай бұрын
Yes, I will buy one ASAP and don’t care about cost. Old ultra endurance guy here, 68, with VO2MAX of 54 on bike and run. Have both row erg and ski erg. Anything that helps me keep my strength in my final years is priceless.
@kmo_1612
@kmo_1612 21 күн бұрын
Fantastic; this is the kind of thing I've been hoping Concept 2 would pursue. Can't wait for it. Will be in the queue and it'll take place next to my bike erg.
@JasonRaneses
@JasonRaneses Ай бұрын
I’m a fan of Concept 2 having both the RowErg and BikeErg. Their ethos as a company is exceptional. Hope this new product takes off.
@GameDeveloperTraining
@GameDeveloperTraining Ай бұрын
This would be a perfect machine for someone just trying to stay strong without the hassle of making time to go to the gym. It's not gonna turn you into superman BUT it will certainly make maintenance a lot easier.
@skotas
@skotas Ай бұрын
Going to add this one to my Bike and Row ERG set! Love the concept of it. And look how compact it is!
@marcoruiz7676
@marcoruiz7676 Ай бұрын
This is going to be a badass one stop gym for my geriatric patients and an awesome training tool for my gym for the young guns.
@jedinxf7
@jedinxf7 Ай бұрын
anything that eliminates the source of at least equal resistance eccentric phase is a poor choice for building muscle and probably for strength, though can be a good tool for power (rate of force production) and would yield faster recovery.
@UniversalStand
@UniversalStand Ай бұрын
@@jedinxf7time under tension is mostly why eccentrics build muscle. There is no reason you shouldn’t be able to modify your workouts for this if that’s your interest.
@SayWhatSuca
@SayWhatSuca 10 күн бұрын
That is absolutely perfect for my father. He needs to train, but he is an amputy, and the footprint on this machine is excellent
@山崎-x7f
@山崎-x7f Ай бұрын
I think this offers some good options for my disabled child to focus on some easy to replicate motions which require less motor planning steps to get some very good exercise and resistance. I'd love to have an opportunity to pilot one for her. She has a pretty severe intellectual disability and motor planning disfunction and full rowing is probably way to many steps. She has also torn her mpfl ligament and will need to strengthen her quad before they can surgically repair and the first movement offers a very easy but yet effective method to strengthen her quad. Happy to see what might work.
@mitchcollins5840
@mitchcollins5840 Ай бұрын
I started using a C2 Erg in the 1980's. Great machines, great company. As a now older male (69) I look forward to learning more about this machine.
@helipeek2736
@helipeek2736 Ай бұрын
Having several Concept2 products, every time I use them I marvel at the quality and the ease of use that just isn’t there with their competitors offerings - which makes me want to use it and not have a barrier to working out.
@steveshadforth8792
@steveshadforth8792 28 күн бұрын
So you should at the price
@lynnwalker
@lynnwalker Ай бұрын
I think I love this! The small footprint is great. I can see creating a circuit workout between this and the other C2 machines for a killer workout! Can't wait for the release. Also, great job on the video editing.
@glendarok
@glendarok Ай бұрын
And now for something completely different: Looks like an awesome machine to make workouts interesting and challenging. The smaller footprint will work for gyms and for homes, it is smart and compact. Well done to the Concept 2 team.
@FishBulb1226
@FishBulb1226 Ай бұрын
Dyno v2. It is surprising they're bringing this back, it was not popular or particularly useful the first time. The old models are still out there.
@strongmen
@strongmen Ай бұрын
Having no resistance on the eccentric makes this minimally useful.
@tomchow3860
@tomchow3860 Ай бұрын
i was going to type this but found this comment. I really dont think this machine will be as loved as their other machines. it seems that they didn't really have some other opinions put into this from PT's S&Cs or Physios. This machine is a novelty, but i think that where it finishes which is v disappointing.
@leftyrighty6059
@leftyrighty6059 Ай бұрын
Agree. Kbox Exxentric would be better.
@mjagielski
@mjagielski Ай бұрын
Na its a cool thing u guys just cant see it.
@svengali5415
@svengali5415 Ай бұрын
minimally useful like a weighted or magnetic sled for example? the sled that you (and the world's strongest men) push and pull I didnt realise you couldn't grow stronger or drive muscular hypertrophy with sled push and pulls because they're only concentric thanks for your exceptional wisdom
@jedinxf7
@jedinxf7 Ай бұрын
​@@svengali5415i mean... you can't meaningfully if your goals are above average dadbod? not a single strong person has gotten there exclusively on zero-eccentric movements, and to the extent it's possible why should anyone purchase something for a suboptimal approach to a solved problem? weights exist already.
@JoshuaSkversky
@JoshuaSkversky 24 күн бұрын
I absolutely love that Concept2 developed this machine. It will bring safe and effective strength training to the masses.
@Five0Music
@Five0Music Ай бұрын
Much like the RowErg, I love that this also embodies the Concept2 ideology of “competing with yourself” so that what you’re doing is betting your performance instead of competing with someone else is accomplishing. No matter what you can do, or what you’re capable of, you can get your workout and improve at the pace you can safely sustained. I’ll be getting one!
@MXYZPTLK-0
@MXYZPTLK-0 Ай бұрын
No eccentric resistance. It exists already with a weight stack.
@neilpollack3514
@neilpollack3514 22 күн бұрын
Why do you say that it doesn’t have eccentric resistance? Flywheels can do that.
@neilpollack3514
@neilpollack3514 22 күн бұрын
I rewatched the video and it does look like there isn’t any eccentric resistance.
@trollzone1
@trollzone1 21 күн бұрын
I just said the same thing. It’s concentric focused. The eccentric motion is as much if not more important for certain movements.
@Spudjuice-s9c
@Spudjuice-s9c 6 күн бұрын
This 👆
@heidit8009
@heidit8009 Ай бұрын
Man I could absolutely see how hard you were working. And I know how strong you are already!
@Markyboyzx6r
@Markyboyzx6r Ай бұрын
I reckon it’s going to be an absolute game-changer for older person strength training. The lessons of the Dyno have obviously been learned. I’d love to see a shoulder push attachment to it, but maybe that’s for the future. It’s going to be a great machine for cardiac rehab and I can even see it in Hyrox-type events. The lack of eccentric phase may actually be a good thing.
@Zane_Zaminsky
@Zane_Zaminsky Ай бұрын
Disagree with your last sentence.
@Shopwolfe
@Shopwolfe Ай бұрын
​@@Zane_Zaminskymy concern too. No eccentric
@Krokador
@Krokador Ай бұрын
@@Zane_Zaminsky It depends what you want to use it for. The no eccentric means you have very little chances of injury. This is not going to be making you jacked, but it does stimulate muscle fibers. If isometrics work, this can work too, y'know?
@rdjack21
@rdjack21 Ай бұрын
Oh my another concept machine to Get.. Can't wait this is perfect for me.
@KreeH2023
@KreeH2023 Ай бұрын
Nice! Lots of strength exercises in a small, compact machine. Funny, I row, not for speed or time but for me ... cardio and strength (core, back, legs, & biceps). I know it's taboo to use higher resistance settings, but it works for me. This new machine adds triceps, biceps, plus even higher resistance for core, back, legs, biceps.
@peterhabel
@peterhabel Ай бұрын
I like how compact the StrengthErg seems to be. Especially if your space for a home gym is very limited its important. I have enjoyed the rowing erg from Concept 2 for many years, and in particulate the ability to easily disassemble it so it stores in a tight space is brilliant. And also the quality of the products from Concept 2 is not to debate. It is extremely high...
@user-wc1em7pc2p
@user-wc1em7pc2p Ай бұрын
The compact nature sold me but my one want for it is an ability to overhead press. I feel like that space of strength is incredibly important and would like to see that over a bench press ability. That said, I'll definitely be buying one as the footprint, versatility, and unique work on this is something I'd like to have in the home. I think this sort of thing would be good for my elders and nieces and nephews to be able to use if they would like. For them using my squat rack or kettlebells is intimidating but this could be a game changer.
@oliverwalton5716
@oliverwalton5716 29 күн бұрын
I can't wait to get it! This is the perfect addition to my home gym!
@Spencebot42
@Spencebot42 Ай бұрын
I'm liking the idea of this as a machine to very easily get in a quick 10 minute full body workout with less effort than weights for lighter or more busy days. I think it'll fit very well within a standard weight training program for recovery and maintence.
@richiejames928
@richiejames928 Ай бұрын
The form factor of this is amazing… looks like a really great seated leg press solution that doesn’t involve a huge plate loaded machine or a dangerous squat rack. same with the pressing motion too.. seated bench press. well done C2
@rickywinthrop
@rickywinthrop 25 күн бұрын
I have a concept 2 model b rower from the early 90's that I still use daily. Just spent a couple 100$ on parts to refurb it and they had everything in stock for me to rebuild the old beast. Good products and company and nice to buy North American too and support our continental economy.
@BartS-lw8iu
@BartS-lw8iu Ай бұрын
I have the rowerg and the bike erg and have been a fan of C2 for years. I’m a fan because the proven quality and durability of everything they produce is above all others. I had the chance to try this prototype out at HOCR yesterday and see real potential with this especially for people like myself as I age. I’m 62 and use free weights in conjunction with the other machines to keep me fit for on the water rowing. Problem with free weights I’m finding that I’m dropping in weight per exercise mainly due to joint injuries that come and go. It’s inevitable that I hurt something the more often I work out regardless of doing high rep lower weights. The value in this is the ability to change the force of your effort mid rep before straining a joint where that is more difficult with a set weight. I’ll be transitioning to this in time. Glad this option will be there.
@guillermomaguire5394
@guillermomaguire5394 Ай бұрын
The free weight injury stuff you wrote......so so true. Recently learned that the hard way. Same age as you. I do wish this "concept" had a few more angles of motion though.
@andrewdouglas4211
@andrewdouglas4211 Ай бұрын
I'm interested in knowing how this contrasts with the discontinued Dyno machine. A bit of history would be cool... why did the Dyno not succeed? What, if any, ideas carried forward to this new machine? What does this do differently/better?
@mrqualityreviewer4752
@mrqualityreviewer4752 Ай бұрын
It was large and not exactly portable. I had it long time ago it was good but I couldn’t utilize it like I wanted to.
@fit-forever
@fit-forever Ай бұрын
The Concept2 Strength looks very interesting! I’m a mobile personal trainer in the UK, and I can see how this can be used by a trainer like myself. Look forward to see further details and hope it’s priced realistically, regards Mark (Fit Forever Training)
@nylonstringninja
@nylonstringninja Ай бұрын
I think one strength of this that applies to the rower as well is that they are pretty easy to move around. So it is great for setting up for group workout classes as well for people that like to move this equipment outside and use it when it is nice or are low on space and have to constantly shuffle machines around. Also for people like me that love weights but waiting on my 2nd back surgery this year, and looking for extremely low risk alternatives. Will be cool to see.
@Tobi_Pdm
@Tobi_Pdm Ай бұрын
Shane, this is amazing, thank you! I love all my C2 devices, but none of them are so universally applicable. It's particularly interesting when you have little space, for example when you live in rented accommodation.
@UntrustworthyDog
@UntrustworthyDog Ай бұрын
Being in Australia, it’ll probably be a while we have to wait, but looking forward to it. The purpose behind this new machine and the work the brothers have done is incredibly cool!
@vegasplayer7387
@vegasplayer7387 Ай бұрын
That looks really interesting! I’d love to try one of those out in my garage gym!
@conspiracytherapist1869
@conspiracytherapist1869 Ай бұрын
Love my rower. Definitely gonna check this out
@travis1687
@travis1687 Ай бұрын
This is a great machine created to measure and work on strength endurance in the concentric phase of the movement. I think its a niche piece of equipment built to maintain and build athleticism in a safe way. I'm thinking of this like medicine ball slams or plyometrics not as an actual squat
@acousticswede
@acousticswede Ай бұрын
As a C2 fanboy all stories from this amazing company is a treat. Great interview with the brothers and staff. Thanks DHR for being out on the field for this one! ”What even is this thing” 😂 I want one nonetheless!
@christopherputney7932
@christopherputney7932 Ай бұрын
Without room for a full rack or anything like that in my basement gym this is a huge win! I can "squat" and "bench" very safely in a small form factor and one machine is versatile enough for me, my wife, AND my kids.
@user-wc1em7pc2p
@user-wc1em7pc2p Ай бұрын
I think the inability to topple over or have a barbell crush you when you're close to failure is a big selling point. The fact that I wouldn't need to load or unload and store plates is another plus in my book.
@johnboyt2778
@johnboyt2778 Ай бұрын
It seems to take up very little space. And it's very safe. Just right for the private cellar gym. The film was very well made, very informative. I was absorbed and fascinated, thanks and well done👍
@B702K
@B702K 9 күн бұрын
Definitely adding this to my Concept2 lineup. ❤it!
@Blingem14
@Blingem14 29 күн бұрын
It’s a great “concept”. I’d like to see more adjustability. Also the ability to move it to an actual squat and actual lat pull . There should be a chest brace for that pull movement. It’d also be cool to see what “weight” equivalent range it associates to the resistance.
@KozysGhost
@KozysGhost Ай бұрын
Love concept 2. I still use my Model D (PM3) REGULARLY but this has limitations in the “strength” arena. Def an option for those that aren’t interested in using DBs, KB’s or BB’s at home or don’t want to use a machine at a global gym. I’m a pass but I may not be their target buyer. In the end, the consumer will decide this one and I wish them the best.
@borisj
@borisj Ай бұрын
My life wouldn't be the same without my rowing erg. Seriously, I wouldn't be who I am. LOVE their products.
@Chester16791
@Chester16791 Ай бұрын
When I heard that C2 were bringing out a new machine I desperately wanted it to be a elliptical which I would buy tomorrow, but have to now tell the wife I really need the strength erg 😂 Thanks Shane for showing us this .
@franzst.664
@franzst.664 Ай бұрын
I so trust this company! I’ve been on temhe fence for getting some sort of strength training equipment along side my Row Erg. Very excited!
@lonematrix
@lonematrix 11 күн бұрын
Love the innovative concept behind the StrengthErg, but definetely geared more towards seniors
@jndq591
@jndq591 Ай бұрын
Looks awesome. I just found my 2025 fitness self gift. Really eager to see reviews from different expertise fields about this machine.
@DarkHorseRowing
@DarkHorseRowing Ай бұрын
I think that’s the most interesting part is where will it land in the industry
@tchilolab4176
@tchilolab4176 Ай бұрын
J’ai hâte de pouvoir l’essayer!! Ça à l’air cool et mystérieux
@darkphoton_15keV
@darkphoton_15keV Ай бұрын
I can see this being helpful for old people or people doing recovery exercise. But for the general public with a relatively fit body. No eccentric resistance. Only three possible movements, which can all be easily replaced by body weight exercises with a pair of high parallel bars + some resistance bands. Not to mention the latter is way cheaper and way easier to store.
@waltermorris337
@waltermorris337 Ай бұрын
3 improper motions…….limited range of motion………..no shoulder motions…….no hinging motions…….most importantly - no negative resistance…….
@neilpollack3514
@neilpollack3514 22 күн бұрын
Why do you call those motions improper? I would like to see more range of motion on the leg press, but that’s more than what most people do at the gym anyway. The chest press and the row both involve shoulder motions. It does look like it lacks negative resistance. I have a different flywheel device that gives me negative resistance, so much that they named it Exxentric. I don’t know why this one wouldn’t have it… My bigger concerns are the lack of a hinging motion and some axial loading.
@waltermorris337
@waltermorris337 21 күн бұрын
@@neilpollack3514 you kind of addressed and confirmed all my criticisms in your question……the only issue I have is your claim that the ancillary effect that rowing and chest press have on shoulders is sufficient - it’s not…….
@joecowan3719
@joecowan3719 Ай бұрын
I keep thinking out loud...when willl Concept2 come out with a new product...mind blown! I really see this replacing my wife's 2 day a week db rountine and me using for powerlifting accessories! Well done once again Concept2! 👏
@DarkHorseRowing
@DarkHorseRowing Ай бұрын
So you think you’ll end up with one?
@joecowan3719
@joecowan3719 Ай бұрын
@@DarkHorseRowing Heck yeah! I sent your video to my training buddy and he definitely wants one for his home gym too. I am already looking on their site for a notification reminder for when it goes live to sell 👀
@CardioKing408
@CardioKing408 Ай бұрын
Wished they could replicate the overpriced VersaClimber.
@mrqualityreviewer4752
@mrqualityreviewer4752 Ай бұрын
@@CardioKing408there are many alternatives to the Versaclimber I have the home model great workout but wish I had resistance
@chewbucca
@chewbucca 25 күн бұрын
@@CardioKing408 I thought I was the only one that thought about a C2 versaclimber!
@svengali5415
@svengali5415 Ай бұрын
wonderful to see a significant innovation in resistance training tech/equipment it should lead to a wider adoption of strength training among older people who ordinarily fear or dislike the weights room; for existing cardio erg users the familiar flywheel mechanism provides a 'natural' transition to strength training, while for others it'll challenge their understanding of what actually constitute strength training, and perhaps will encourage them to try it and perhaps other non-weights modalities
@foundfoundfound1
@foundfoundfound1 Ай бұрын
simple is best. the rower, bike, & ski are simple, reliable, and trusted. for strength barbells are the same. this machine won’t replace barbells. it places no demands on the core, doesn’t load the spine, or allow full range of motion. concept2 should work on updating the pm5 with wifi and a second bluetooth channel. they should also make the damper settings more visible in concept2 green so they can be seen in low light.
@onecreative1
@onecreative1 Ай бұрын
Perfect for an apartment/condo without disturbing your neighbors. Not to mention what looks to be a good workout. Nice job!
@MarkPMaguire
@MarkPMaguire Ай бұрын
Looks sick! Looks very innovative! Great video and insight into the company as well! Hope to support in the near future! Thanks!
@OldGringo
@OldGringo Ай бұрын
Take it on the road, so we can try it out.
@samuelbonacorsi2048
@samuelbonacorsi2048 Ай бұрын
I like this machine. I’m a big free weight guy but this machine has a place in a lot of people’s gym. I like the safety aspect
@stevobear4647
@stevobear4647 Ай бұрын
😮😮😮WOW!!! Two questions: 1) Does the cable system adjust up and down? (Can my 5-3 wife and 6-4 son adjust it for comfortability) 2) Can the foot pedals adjust up and down or also wider?? (Can the foot base go lower, say 4 to 6 inches, and wider, say 3 to 4 inches) So a 250 lbs woman or 400 lbs man looking to incorporate strength training into their weight loss can adjust it for more comfort. In my opinion those options would make it more widely usable for a wider customer base at a gym.
@volkerracho9481
@volkerracho9481 Ай бұрын
Oh boy! I am an enthusiastic owner of the RowErg and the SkiErg and train on both machines every day. I guess I'll have to get the StrenghtErg now too.
@farkas266
@farkas266 Ай бұрын
Interesting concept (pun intended). Gives me the cable squat machine vibe. Also seeing a number makes it easier for progressive overload. Super curious on the final product
@DarkHorseRowing
@DarkHorseRowing Ай бұрын
Agreed. I do love the actual unit of measurement giving you legitimate feedback
@DanielleVindez-b4c
@DanielleVindez-b4c Ай бұрын
Interesting! I use my present erg as a strength devise, and will wait and see how this erg develops.
@francesco.virzi4
@francesco.virzi4 Ай бұрын
The concept is that of a safe to use gym, concentrated in the footprint of a small bike.
@stu1wyatt
@stu1wyatt Ай бұрын
Already have the SkiErg and Rower, love what they do and their whole philosophy
@SwindonRunner
@SwindonRunner Ай бұрын
I have all 3 machines and love them all. This doesn’t appeal to me when dumbells and kettlebells exist. I would rather have seen An Assault bike style machine from C2 than this device. Maybe I will change my mind when some real reviews come out.
@davegaleuk
@davegaleuk Ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of Concept 2 equipment for my own masters sprint athletics training program. It will be interesting to see if the StregthErg will lend itself to fast, explosive, heavy reps
@simonhastelow2491
@simonhastelow2491 18 күн бұрын
I like the fact that you can isolate legs and arms but also add a push element. I have a damaged left arm that limits push reps (bench presses are impossible for me), this would be much safer.
@toddlopes
@toddlopes Ай бұрын
As a Concept2 fan, I can definitely see the StrengthErg becoming a staple in my home gym soon! I plan to use it for HIIT days and to get quick strength workouts in when I'm short on time. It could even be suitable for my 75-year-old mother! What I love about it: compact size, lightweight design, PM5 monitor, Erg data link, quick weight/force adjustments, and the ability to work muscles to failure safely. Plus, the customer support and product warranty are top-notch. One suggestion for improvement would be to add angled multi-grip push and pull handles. I think the Ironmaster Ultimate Row Handle design could be a great reference for this. Also, how is the feel of the knurling on the push and pull handles?
@fraac
@fraac Ай бұрын
seems ideal for dropsets. i'll wait for the coop (garage gym) review
@Coronetbluenz
@Coronetbluenz Ай бұрын
Two points I was concerned with, while watching the video. The back support seems rather thin to support the back when bench pressing. Also is there an angular adjustment for the bench press handle if the seat neither rises nor lowers?
@Shopwolfe
@Shopwolfe Ай бұрын
Not only thin but too low
@Zane_Zaminsky
@Zane_Zaminsky Ай бұрын
No negative resistance? If so, then “No go!”
@svengali5415
@svengali5415 25 күн бұрын
that's good because it's not targetted at you!
@primaltone
@primaltone Ай бұрын
I own an SkiERG and and a Concept 2 rower. I am very interested in this product, especially the ability to build strength without injury, but I would like to see several professional reviews before I jump on it. Concept2 makes awesome products and I love the intent. I just want to make sure it's right for me. I understand this isn't a deep dive, but I'd also like to know what else it can do versatility-wise.
@charliemarino9813
@charliemarino9813 Ай бұрын
Really interesting product! It reminds me plenty of the Exxentric flywheel technology but with a very unique form factor.
@timwang4183
@timwang4183 Ай бұрын
In fact, the new Concept2 machine is more like an isokinetic training device used in rehabilitation, but it has been adapted for single-arm or single-leg strength training, rather than providing full-body exercises like typical isokinetic equipment, which often comes with complex measurement systems requiring professional medical supervision. During my rehabilitation, the center had me use isokinetic training devices, along with computer software to measure indicators such as my angular velocity and muscle strength, reflecting changes in my muscle power and joint mobility. I see this as rehabilitation technology being integrated into the traditional fitness field, representing an upgrade for the fitness industry. In a sense, this marks the first time that fitness is becoming so scientifically driven, rather than being entirely dependent on conventional fitness methods.
@lsantilli
@lsantilli Ай бұрын
This should go into every doctors office/PT office, but from a home health standpoint it’s great for old people.
@ShepherdsSheepdog
@ShepherdsSheepdog Ай бұрын
So, ZERO eccentric resistance? What about progression?
@clintwalker7095
@clintwalker7095 Ай бұрын
Zero eccentric means little soreness if any. If you take a couple weeks off from strength training soreness can be an issue do to the eccentric.
@FitnessCanterbury
@FitnessCanterbury Ай бұрын
This looks great! Is there any resistance/loading applied on the negative aspect of the rep?
@lazylearner967
@lazylearner967 Ай бұрын
Looks interesting. I can't say I would get one just yet..... I have a good half rack with an upper and lower pulley, along with dip, roman chair and pull up bar. We also have a rack of dumbbells. I have the C2 Bike and Row ergs, and love them. I am probably not the customer this is marketed towards. But so glad they are willing to explore and expand their product line up. I would probably get a ski erg before one of these. My main sport is mountain biking. I am a C2 fanboy but love my iron weights too much to add for trade for one of these machines.
@squealer42
@squealer42 Ай бұрын
Two things holding me back for years acquiring a leg-press machine. They take up too much space and ... I'd get bored. The strength-erg may solve both!
@squealer42
@squealer42 Ай бұрын
I don't want to load plates; I don't want legs only; I don't want a beast to move around in the garage. Who knew you could get so much resistance from just a flywheel? Plus, I get metrics? Sign me up!
@kitsch302
@kitsch302 26 күн бұрын
Love the employee interviews
@spencernussrallah
@spencernussrallah Ай бұрын
This is a home gym for people (i.e. NYC) for whom before it was impossible to have a home gym, but whose schedules could benefit immensely from a home gym and a 20 minute strength workout.
@robinhere
@robinhere Ай бұрын
Im physio from Finland, and all I see is pure potential.
@clintwalker7095
@clintwalker7095 Ай бұрын
Really Like the Idea of this. Strength is so Important. Especially in the older population. I think it would be Very Important for a training program to be part of this. Most who buy the other 3 ergs will probably have an Idea of what to do with it. This I think would be different, otherwise it may be a catch all like a treadmill. That's my 2 cents
@Smudgemom2003
@Smudgemom2003 Ай бұрын
Reminds me of those ‘4 Minutes Per Day’ machines sold in the 1990s
@mrqualityreviewer4752
@mrqualityreviewer4752 Ай бұрын
Exactly but not quite I had a dyno and tried a ROM machine. The ROM blew the dyno away tbh
@jenniferblanchard4856
@jenniferblanchard4856 Ай бұрын
I am definitely in for this!
@iliketurtles536
@iliketurtles536 Ай бұрын
oh I love this. Small footprint also!
@selfcritical
@selfcritical Ай бұрын
My first thought is that for strength development inertia flywheel resistance is probably gonna be more productive and compact than air resistance. Kbox, strexbox etc.
@viceamiralyamakaji5847
@viceamiralyamakaji5847 Ай бұрын
Intéressant, je suis un athlète de force qui es venu à l’endurance par le rowerg et le bikeerg, je suis donc curieux d’essayer celui ci en sachant d’où je viens.
@markvonwisco7369
@markvonwisco7369 Ай бұрын
I'm certainly interested, but I would want to try out the machine first
@jaytorr6701
@jaytorr6701 Ай бұрын
Depends on the price. If above 1500 not worth it. One can buy a very smith machine combo rack for this amount. Very low footprint indeed, but unless they have some attachments for doing other exercise then it is very limited.
@cusebike5391
@cusebike5391 Ай бұрын
They'd sell a lot of units @ $1500. I'm not sure they'd any profit @ that price. Recouping a 2+ year development cost in a reasonable time frame is going to add substantially to the final price. For folks just getting into strength training, this may have some value. I can't see it adding anything to an established home gym or for those of us who enjoy going to the gym.
@jaytorr6701
@jaytorr6701 Ай бұрын
@@cusebike5391 I agree. For around 2k one can have a folding rack with a hydraulic smith machine, which includes wire attachments for pull downs, rows etc. I have one and keep in my living room, barely takes any space when folded. For anyone above 40 doing three rep max workouts is terrible for the joints. Maybe a good solution if space is an issue, but there is nothing there that a body workout nd a few strong resistance bands cannot do as well. Look forward to seeing it's final form.
@JulianShagworthy
@JulianShagworthy Ай бұрын
$1,350 without a PM5, $1,500 with a PM5.
@TheSJCieply
@TheSJCieply Ай бұрын
It's almost the same footprint as a rack, barbells, and plates. You're probably looking at a similar cost for both.
@jbcarthy
@jbcarthy Ай бұрын
This is a great idea Such an easy access point to strength training
@shawncro
@shawncro 11 күн бұрын
Love this machine. Your company needs to send this machine to Spacex.
@neilwheel
@neilwheel Ай бұрын
I'd say this new machine would definitely compliment those working with the rowing machine. It would definitely help beginners build the power needed to move up to a higher level. I don't think it would really compliment skierg & bikeerg users, but time will tell.
@willmoore5862
@willmoore5862 Ай бұрын
I was thinking of adding the ski erg to my row erg but I think I’d rather have this when it comes out!
@greybeard4034
@greybeard4034 Ай бұрын
This looks amazing! Kinda makes me wonder if they can make a tree pulley hybrid out of this thing.
@kevinisaboysnamepoopoofeve8486
@kevinisaboysnamepoopoofeve8486 Ай бұрын
I would suggest the ability to add a stronger flywheel, possibly add a second on the opposite side? Incredibly hard to build I bet but also a way to push and pull in the same movement would really set this up as something different. Max effort push and pull for speed would be incredibly popular and doesn’t really exist. They even indicate not fully knowing the best use case but adding truly dynamic strength options would imo give them something unique like the skier.
@AndrewShakespeare
@AndrewShakespeare Ай бұрын
How is this not a reworked C2 Dyno? It doesn't even appear on their product history wall chart you showed. Don't get me wrong, it looks useful, but expensive for a limited number of exercises. I've had a C2 Rower for 20 years, so I know they're really well built. I'd like to see an adaptor to allow lat pull down.
@sebastianpeter649
@sebastianpeter649 Ай бұрын
I was thinking the exact same (C2 Dyno is missing) looking at the wall and history of products
@TheGhu123
@TheGhu123 Ай бұрын
time to start saving money for it.
@jholmessiedle
@jholmessiedle 22 күн бұрын
Will be interesting to see how it develops - the opportunity for a single 'pull' or freestanding deadlift attachment would increase the use cases - but the lack of eccentric load (as far as I understand) puts it into a category of its own - more effective than nothing, less effective than something like a deadlift or free weights. So it is carving out a niche on its own and it would be good to run some athletes through it. Although, to be fair, they are talking about it for maintaining strength in ageing athletes in a safe environment - and if you exclude the use of free weights, it could fill that slot.
@avlehtine
@avlehtine Ай бұрын
The resistance this provides does not seem optimal for strength training based on current research. For one, there is no tension on the eccentric, and no stretch. I also find it mentally difficult when resistance increases the harder you go (in these kinds of movements), sort of how I hate spinning bikes with that friction-based resistance. I am fine with endurance workouts on the erg or a trainer like the Kickr.
@TedWindsor
@TedWindsor Ай бұрын
I had this exact thought. Without the eccentric load you're missing out on half the rep and losing that deep stretch.
@tvah44
@tvah44 Ай бұрын
Noticed this too… pretty cool innovation but looks like zero eccentric loading.
@sebastiansanchezmendoza7523
@sebastiansanchezmendoza7523 Ай бұрын
Yeah, for the price just buy a set of adjustable dumbbells and a bench.
@svengali5415
@svengali5415 25 күн бұрын
where did they say they were seeking to optimise strength training?
@avlehtine
@avlehtine 25 күн бұрын
@@svengali5415 Dude, the thing is called StrengthErg.
@pangtsr
@pangtsr Ай бұрын
Solving a problem that doesn’t exist. Great.
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