Concept2's StrengthErg First Look: Thoughts?

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@jeffp1377
@jeffp1377 2 ай бұрын
I absolutely LOVE Concept2. They have all their replacement parts available to service every generation of their product and at reasonable prices. No one does that. Such a great company and product line.
@jeffsancricca7041
@jeffsancricca7041 2 ай бұрын
Totally agree!
@johnbarron4713
@johnbarron4713 2 ай бұрын
Yes, I will buy one ASAP and don’t care about cost. Old ultra endurance guy here, 68, with VO2MAX of 54 on bike and run. Have both row erg and ski erg. Anything that helps me keep my strength in my final years is priceless.
@GameDeveloperTraining
@GameDeveloperTraining 2 ай бұрын
This would be a perfect machine for someone just trying to stay strong without the hassle of making time to go to the gym. It's not gonna turn you into superman BUT it will certainly make maintenance a lot easier.
@kmo_1612
@kmo_1612 Ай бұрын
Fantastic; this is the kind of thing I've been hoping Concept 2 would pursue. Can't wait for it. Will be in the queue and it'll take place next to my bike erg.
@strongmen
@strongmen 2 ай бұрын
Having no resistance on the eccentric makes this minimally useful.
@tomchow3860
@tomchow3860 2 ай бұрын
i was going to type this but found this comment. I really dont think this machine will be as loved as their other machines. it seems that they didn't really have some other opinions put into this from PT's S&Cs or Physios. This machine is a novelty, but i think that where it finishes which is v disappointing.
@leftyrighty6059
@leftyrighty6059 2 ай бұрын
Agree. Kbox Exxentric would be better.
@mjagielski
@mjagielski 2 ай бұрын
Na its a cool thing u guys just cant see it.
@svengali5415
@svengali5415 2 ай бұрын
minimally useful like a weighted or magnetic sled for example? the sled that you (and the world's strongest men) push and pull I didnt realise you couldn't grow stronger or drive muscular hypertrophy with sled push and pulls because they're only concentric thanks for your exceptional wisdom
@jedinxf7
@jedinxf7 2 ай бұрын
​@@svengali5415i mean... you can't meaningfully if your goals are above average dadbod? not a single strong person has gotten there exclusively on zero-eccentric movements, and to the extent it's possible why should anyone purchase something for a suboptimal approach to a solved problem? weights exist already.
@helipeek2736
@helipeek2736 2 ай бұрын
Having several Concept2 products, every time I use them I marvel at the quality and the ease of use that just isn’t there with their competitors offerings - which makes me want to use it and not have a barrier to working out.
@steveshadforth8792
@steveshadforth8792 2 ай бұрын
So you should at the price
@mitchcollins5840
@mitchcollins5840 2 ай бұрын
I started using a C2 Erg in the 1980's. Great machines, great company. As a now older male (69) I look forward to learning more about this machine.
@skotas
@skotas 2 ай бұрын
Going to add this one to my Bike and Row ERG set! Love the concept of it. And look how compact it is!
@MXYZPTLK-0
@MXYZPTLK-0 2 ай бұрын
No eccentric resistance. It exists already with a weight stack.
@neilpollack3514
@neilpollack3514 2 ай бұрын
Why do you say that it doesn’t have eccentric resistance? Flywheels can do that.
@neilpollack3514
@neilpollack3514 2 ай бұрын
I rewatched the video and it does look like there isn’t any eccentric resistance.
@trollzone1
@trollzone1 Ай бұрын
I just said the same thing. It’s concentric focused. The eccentric motion is as much if not more important for certain movements.
@Spudjuice-s9c
@Spudjuice-s9c Ай бұрын
This 👆
@chadd980
@chadd980 20 күн бұрын
@@trollzone1 concentric is much less muscle damaging for sure. That said it’s easier to recover from and hence you can workout more over time. It also makes injury less likely. I could see this being beneficial for people recovering from injury or people with chronic injury to knees or shoulders. and finally concentric only is great for power movements, think sled pulls and pushes, and Olympic lifts. Those are amazing for building power and are mainly or completely concentric focused
@Five0Music
@Five0Music 2 ай бұрын
Much like the RowErg, I love that this also embodies the Concept2 ideology of “competing with yourself” so that what you’re doing is betting your performance instead of competing with someone else is accomplishing. No matter what you can do, or what you’re capable of, you can get your workout and improve at the pace you can safely sustained. I’ll be getting one!
@JoshuaSkversky
@JoshuaSkversky 2 ай бұрын
I absolutely love that Concept2 developed this machine. It will bring safe and effective strength training to the masses.
@glendarok
@glendarok 2 ай бұрын
And now for something completely different: Looks like an awesome machine to make workouts interesting and challenging. The smaller footprint will work for gyms and for homes, it is smart and compact. Well done to the Concept 2 team.
@marcoruiz7676
@marcoruiz7676 2 ай бұрын
This is going to be a badass one stop gym for my geriatric patients and an awesome training tool for my gym for the young guns.
@jedinxf7
@jedinxf7 2 ай бұрын
anything that eliminates the source of at least equal resistance eccentric phase is a poor choice for building muscle and probably for strength, though can be a good tool for power (rate of force production) and would yield faster recovery.
@UniversalStand
@UniversalStand 2 ай бұрын
@@jedinxf7time under tension is mostly why eccentrics build muscle. There is no reason you shouldn’t be able to modify your workouts for this if that’s your interest.
@山崎-x7f
@山崎-x7f 2 ай бұрын
I think this offers some good options for my disabled child to focus on some easy to replicate motions which require less motor planning steps to get some very good exercise and resistance. I'd love to have an opportunity to pilot one for her. She has a pretty severe intellectual disability and motor planning disfunction and full rowing is probably way to many steps. She has also torn her mpfl ligament and will need to strengthen her quad before they can surgically repair and the first movement offers a very easy but yet effective method to strengthen her quad. Happy to see what might work.
@JasonRaneses
@JasonRaneses 2 ай бұрын
I’m a fan of Concept 2 having both the RowErg and BikeErg. Their ethos as a company is exceptional. Hope this new product takes off.
@lynnwalker
@lynnwalker 2 ай бұрын
I think I love this! The small footprint is great. I can see creating a circuit workout between this and the other C2 machines for a killer workout! Can't wait for the release. Also, great job on the video editing.
@SayWhatSuca
@SayWhatSuca Ай бұрын
That is absolutely perfect for my father. He needs to train, but he is an amputy, and the footprint on this machine is excellent
@RowboTony
@RowboTony 6 күн бұрын
I’m an amputee as well. This machine seems very safe and effective for me to use with one leg. I row with one leg too, this looks very cool. Can’t wait to see more!
@FishBulb1226
@FishBulb1226 2 ай бұрын
Dyno v2. It is surprising they're bringing this back, it was not popular or particularly useful the first time. The old models are still out there.
@andrewdouglas4211
@andrewdouglas4211 2 ай бұрын
I'm interested in knowing how this contrasts with the discontinued Dyno machine. A bit of history would be cool... why did the Dyno not succeed? What, if any, ideas carried forward to this new machine? What does this do differently/better?
@mrqualityreviewer4752
@mrqualityreviewer4752 2 ай бұрын
It was large and not exactly portable. I had it long time ago it was good but I couldn’t utilize it like I wanted to.
@peterhabel
@peterhabel 2 ай бұрын
I like how compact the StrengthErg seems to be. Especially if your space for a home gym is very limited its important. I have enjoyed the rowing erg from Concept 2 for many years, and in particulate the ability to easily disassemble it so it stores in a tight space is brilliant. And also the quality of the products from Concept 2 is not to debate. It is extremely high...
@user-wc1em7pc2p
@user-wc1em7pc2p 2 ай бұрын
The compact nature sold me but my one want for it is an ability to overhead press. I feel like that space of strength is incredibly important and would like to see that over a bench press ability. That said, I'll definitely be buying one as the footprint, versatility, and unique work on this is something I'd like to have in the home. I think this sort of thing would be good for my elders and nieces and nephews to be able to use if they would like. For them using my squat rack or kettlebells is intimidating but this could be a game changer.
@heidit8009
@heidit8009 2 ай бұрын
Man I could absolutely see how hard you were working. And I know how strong you are already!
@rdjack21
@rdjack21 2 ай бұрын
Oh my another concept machine to Get.. Can't wait this is perfect for me.
@oliverwalton5716
@oliverwalton5716 2 ай бұрын
I can't wait to get it! This is the perfect addition to my home gym!
@richiejames928
@richiejames928 2 ай бұрын
The form factor of this is amazing… looks like a really great seated leg press solution that doesn’t involve a huge plate loaded machine or a dangerous squat rack. same with the pressing motion too.. seated bench press. well done C2
@Spencebot42
@Spencebot42 2 ай бұрын
I'm liking the idea of this as a machine to very easily get in a quick 10 minute full body workout with less effort than weights for lighter or more busy days. I think it'll fit very well within a standard weight training program for recovery and maintence.
@J2tallrich
@J2tallrich Ай бұрын
From the bottom of my heart thanks for the videos you put out I watched one of your form videos and I just passed my army fitness test with the 5K row first time I ever did it 23 minutes with your form video
@DarkHorseRowing
@DarkHorseRowing Ай бұрын
YES! That's amazing. Congratulations.
@J2tallrich
@J2tallrich Ай бұрын
@@DarkHorseRowing I know you rep for Concept2 Have you had any time on the Rouge Rower ? im definitely interested in buying one it is cheaper than the concept 2
@DarkHorseRowing
@DarkHorseRowing Ай бұрын
@ I’ve watched about as many of the reviews as exist. Don’t buy the hype though. To save $100 you’re buying Chinese made and assembled, no track record of long term quality, and no one takes customer care more seriously than Concept2. The monitor is also not comparable to the C2 monitor despite the claims so the machine will still be in its own category and not comparable to the C2.
@ShepherdsSheepdog
@ShepherdsSheepdog 2 ай бұрын
So, ZERO eccentric resistance? What about progression?
@clintwalker7095
@clintwalker7095 2 ай бұрын
Zero eccentric means little soreness if any. If you take a couple weeks off from strength training soreness can be an issue do to the eccentric.
@christopherputney7932
@christopherputney7932 2 ай бұрын
Without room for a full rack or anything like that in my basement gym this is a huge win! I can "squat" and "bench" very safely in a small form factor and one machine is versatile enough for me, my wife, AND my kids.
@user-wc1em7pc2p
@user-wc1em7pc2p 2 ай бұрын
I think the inability to topple over or have a barbell crush you when you're close to failure is a big selling point. The fact that I wouldn't need to load or unload and store plates is another plus in my book.
@Blingem14
@Blingem14 2 ай бұрын
It’s a great “concept”. I’d like to see more adjustability. Also the ability to move it to an actual squat and actual lat pull . There should be a chest brace for that pull movement. It’d also be cool to see what “weight” equivalent range it associates to the resistance.
@fabianolomba775
@fabianolomba775 12 күн бұрын
Yes love to have one, I love my concept2!! Awesome information I appreciate!!
@acousticswede
@acousticswede 2 ай бұрын
As a C2 fanboy all stories from this amazing company is a treat. Great interview with the brothers and staff. Thanks DHR for being out on the field for this one! ”What even is this thing” 😂 I want one nonetheless!
@nylonstringninja
@nylonstringninja 2 ай бұрын
I think one strength of this that applies to the rower as well is that they are pretty easy to move around. So it is great for setting up for group workout classes as well for people that like to move this equipment outside and use it when it is nice or are low on space and have to constantly shuffle machines around. Also for people like me that love weights but waiting on my 2nd back surgery this year, and looking for extremely low risk alternatives. Will be cool to see.
@Flakey86
@Flakey86 23 күн бұрын
Unless I'm missing something, this system has zero ability to load the eccentric portion of any of these movements. On the plus side, that should mean practically no soreness for users. On the downside, I think we would expect a significant reduction in hypertrophy potential, right? I love Concept2 as a company, but this does kind of seem like a significant flaw? Maybe for seniors, its less of a concern, but that's a fairly limited market.
@matthewbingham9583
@matthewbingham9583 12 күн бұрын
This is correct! Less soreness, increased strength, but less size gains, better for power to weight ratio
@rickywinthrop
@rickywinthrop 2 ай бұрын
I have a concept 2 model b rower from the early 90's that I still use daily. Just spent a couple 100$ on parts to refurb it and they had everything in stock for me to rebuild the old beast. Good products and company and nice to buy North American too and support our continental economy.
@UntrustworthyDog
@UntrustworthyDog 2 ай бұрын
Being in Australia, it’ll probably be a while we have to wait, but looking forward to it. The purpose behind this new machine and the work the brothers have done is incredibly cool!
@B702K
@B702K Ай бұрын
Definitely adding this to my Concept2 lineup. ❤it!
@conspiracytherapist1869
@conspiracytherapist1869 2 ай бұрын
Love my rower. Definitely gonna check this out
@tchilolab4176
@tchilolab4176 2 ай бұрын
J’ai hâte de pouvoir l’essayer!! Ça à l’air cool et mystérieux
@Markyboyzx6r
@Markyboyzx6r 2 ай бұрын
I reckon it’s going to be an absolute game-changer for older person strength training. The lessons of the Dyno have obviously been learned. I’d love to see a shoulder push attachment to it, but maybe that’s for the future. It’s going to be a great machine for cardiac rehab and I can even see it in Hyrox-type events. The lack of eccentric phase may actually be a good thing.
@Zane_Zaminsky
@Zane_Zaminsky 2 ай бұрын
Disagree with your last sentence.
@Shopwolfe
@Shopwolfe 2 ай бұрын
​@@Zane_Zaminskymy concern too. No eccentric
@Krokador
@Krokador 2 ай бұрын
@@Zane_Zaminsky It depends what you want to use it for. The no eccentric means you have very little chances of injury. This is not going to be making you jacked, but it does stimulate muscle fibers. If isometrics work, this can work too, y'know?
@fit-forever
@fit-forever 2 ай бұрын
The Concept2 Strength looks very interesting! I’m a mobile personal trainer in the UK, and I can see how this can be used by a trainer like myself. Look forward to see further details and hope it’s priced realistically, regards Mark (Fit Forever Training)
@travis1687
@travis1687 2 ай бұрын
This is a great machine created to measure and work on strength endurance in the concentric phase of the movement. I think its a niche piece of equipment built to maintain and build athleticism in a safe way. I'm thinking of this like medicine ball slams or plyometrics not as an actual squat
@Coronetbluenz
@Coronetbluenz 2 ай бұрын
Two points I was concerned with, while watching the video. The back support seems rather thin to support the back when bench pressing. Also is there an angular adjustment for the bench press handle if the seat neither rises nor lowers?
@Shopwolfe
@Shopwolfe 2 ай бұрын
Not only thin but too low
@Chester16791
@Chester16791 2 ай бұрын
When I heard that C2 were bringing out a new machine I desperately wanted it to be a elliptical which I would buy tomorrow, but have to now tell the wife I really need the strength erg 😂 Thanks Shane for showing us this .
@vegasplayer7387
@vegasplayer7387 2 ай бұрын
That looks really interesting! I’d love to try one of those out in my garage gym!
@borisj
@borisj 2 ай бұрын
My life wouldn't be the same without my rowing erg. Seriously, I wouldn't be who I am. LOVE their products.
@franzst.664
@franzst.664 2 ай бұрын
I so trust this company! I’ve been on temhe fence for getting some sort of strength training equipment along side my Row Erg. Very excited!
@Tobi_Pdm
@Tobi_Pdm 2 ай бұрын
Shane, this is amazing, thank you! I love all my C2 devices, but none of them are so universally applicable. It's particularly interesting when you have little space, for example when you live in rented accommodation.
@darkphoton_15keV
@darkphoton_15keV 2 ай бұрын
I can see this being helpful for old people or people doing recovery exercise. But for the general public with a relatively fit body. No eccentric resistance. Only three possible movements, which can all be easily replaced by body weight exercises with a pair of high parallel bars + some resistance bands. Not to mention the latter is way cheaper and way easier to store.
@KozysGhost
@KozysGhost 2 ай бұрын
Love concept 2. I still use my Model D (PM3) REGULARLY but this has limitations in the “strength” arena. Def an option for those that aren’t interested in using DBs, KB’s or BB’s at home or don’t want to use a machine at a global gym. I’m a pass but I may not be their target buyer. In the end, the consumer will decide this one and I wish them the best.
@avlehtine
@avlehtine 2 ай бұрын
The resistance this provides does not seem optimal for strength training based on current research. For one, there is no tension on the eccentric, and no stretch. I also find it mentally difficult when resistance increases the harder you go (in these kinds of movements), sort of how I hate spinning bikes with that friction-based resistance. I am fine with endurance workouts on the erg or a trainer like the Kickr.
@TedWindsor
@TedWindsor 2 ай бұрын
I had this exact thought. Without the eccentric load you're missing out on half the rep and losing that deep stretch.
@tvah44
@tvah44 2 ай бұрын
Noticed this too… pretty cool innovation but looks like zero eccentric loading.
@sebastiansanchezmendoza7523
@sebastiansanchezmendoza7523 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, for the price just buy a set of adjustable dumbbells and a bench.
@svengali5415
@svengali5415 2 ай бұрын
where did they say they were seeking to optimise strength training?
@avlehtine
@avlehtine 2 ай бұрын
@@svengali5415 Dude, the thing is called StrengthErg.
@KreeH2023
@KreeH2023 2 ай бұрын
Nice! Lots of strength exercises in a small, compact machine. Funny, I row, not for speed or time but for me ... cardio and strength (core, back, legs, & biceps). I know it's taboo to use higher resistance settings, but it works for me. This new machine adds triceps, biceps, plus even higher resistance for core, back, legs, biceps.
@AndrewShakespeare
@AndrewShakespeare 2 ай бұрын
How is this not a reworked C2 Dyno? It doesn't even appear on their product history wall chart you showed. Don't get me wrong, it looks useful, but expensive for a limited number of exercises. I've had a C2 Rower for 20 years, so I know they're really well built. I'd like to see an adaptor to allow lat pull down.
@sebastianpeter649
@sebastianpeter649 2 ай бұрын
I was thinking the exact same (C2 Dyno is missing) looking at the wall and history of products
@johnboyt2778
@johnboyt2778 2 ай бұрын
It seems to take up very little space. And it's very safe. Just right for the private cellar gym. The film was very well made, very informative. I was absorbed and fascinated, thanks and well done👍
@onecreative1
@onecreative1 2 ай бұрын
Perfect for an apartment/condo without disturbing your neighbors. Not to mention what looks to be a good workout. Nice job!
@MarkPMaguire
@MarkPMaguire 2 ай бұрын
Looks sick! Looks very innovative! Great video and insight into the company as well! Hope to support in the near future! Thanks!
@OldGringo
@OldGringo 2 ай бұрын
Take it on the road, so we can try it out.
@jaytorr6701
@jaytorr6701 2 ай бұрын
Depends on the price. If above 1500 not worth it. One can buy a very smith machine combo rack for this amount. Very low footprint indeed, but unless they have some attachments for doing other exercise then it is very limited.
@cusebike5391
@cusebike5391 2 ай бұрын
They'd sell a lot of units @ $1500. I'm not sure they'd any profit @ that price. Recouping a 2+ year development cost in a reasonable time frame is going to add substantially to the final price. For folks just getting into strength training, this may have some value. I can't see it adding anything to an established home gym or for those of us who enjoy going to the gym.
@jaytorr6701
@jaytorr6701 2 ай бұрын
@@cusebike5391 I agree. For around 2k one can have a folding rack with a hydraulic smith machine, which includes wire attachments for pull downs, rows etc. I have one and keep in my living room, barely takes any space when folded. For anyone above 40 doing three rep max workouts is terrible for the joints. Maybe a good solution if space is an issue, but there is nothing there that a body workout nd a few strong resistance bands cannot do as well. Look forward to seeing it's final form.
@JulianShagworthy
@JulianShagworthy 2 ай бұрын
$1,350 without a PM5, $1,500 with a PM5.
@TheSJCieply
@TheSJCieply 2 ай бұрын
It's almost the same footprint as a rack, barbells, and plates. You're probably looking at a similar cost for both.
@waltermorris337
@waltermorris337 2 ай бұрын
3 improper motions…….limited range of motion………..no shoulder motions…….no hinging motions…….most importantly - no negative resistance…….
@neilpollack3514
@neilpollack3514 2 ай бұрын
Why do you call those motions improper? I would like to see more range of motion on the leg press, but that’s more than what most people do at the gym anyway. The chest press and the row both involve shoulder motions. It does look like it lacks negative resistance. I have a different flywheel device that gives me negative resistance, so much that they named it Exxentric. I don’t know why this one wouldn’t have it… My bigger concerns are the lack of a hinging motion and some axial loading.
@waltermorris337
@waltermorris337 2 ай бұрын
@@neilpollack3514 you kind of addressed and confirmed all my criticisms in your question……the only issue I have is your claim that the ancillary effect that rowing and chest press have on shoulders is sufficient - it’s not…….
@GeorgePetelin
@GeorgePetelin Ай бұрын
I currently attach a cord to my erg handle to do isometrics, so I would have preferred a single machine designed for rowing but with attachments for strength training. There was an earlier machine called a Dynamometer, similar to this, that was discontinued. How is this better? A problem with the Dynamic Erg is that you sweat right over the flywheel. I sold mine when it started to rust badly. This design might share the same problem. I do hope there are still changes to be made because the idea itself is a winner.
@stevobear4647
@stevobear4647 2 ай бұрын
😮😮😮WOW!!! Two questions: 1) Does the cable system adjust up and down? (Can my 5-3 wife and 6-4 son adjust it for comfortability) 2) Can the foot pedals adjust up and down or also wider?? (Can the foot base go lower, say 4 to 6 inches, and wider, say 3 to 4 inches) So a 250 lbs woman or 400 lbs man looking to incorporate strength training into their weight loss can adjust it for more comfort. In my opinion those options would make it more widely usable for a wider customer base at a gym.
@francesco.virzi4
@francesco.virzi4 2 ай бұрын
The concept is that of a safe to use gym, concentrated in the footprint of a small bike.
@kenwest8638
@kenwest8638 25 күн бұрын
I plan to procure one, once available, to replace my aged Bowflex - which, over the past 20 years, has been used to no longer represent the resistance it was designed to reflect.
@svengali5415
@svengali5415 2 ай бұрын
wonderful to see a significant innovation in resistance training tech/equipment it should lead to a wider adoption of strength training among older people who ordinarily fear or dislike the weights room; for existing cardio erg users the familiar flywheel mechanism provides a 'natural' transition to strength training, while for others it'll challenge their understanding of what actually constitute strength training, and perhaps will encourage them to try it and perhaps other non-weights modalities
@cz1always608
@cz1always608 18 күн бұрын
Another material thing in this world to be intrigued by and to want because that’s the way we are wired more is better … Concept two rower is fantastic .. I can tell you at age 55. I got very serious about my health. I had a personal trainer, worked out with dumbbells and body weight only exercise exercises. Other than a concept two rower as far as any kind of machine I got myself in the best shape I could possibly be. Amazing my whole life lifting weight who knew all I needed was my own body in the right direction . Just saying. Thanks for the video
@SwindonRunner
@SwindonRunner 2 ай бұрын
I have all 3 machines and love them all. This doesn’t appeal to me when dumbells and kettlebells exist. I would rather have seen An Assault bike style machine from C2 than this device. Maybe I will change my mind when some real reviews come out.
@arctan2010
@arctan2010 2 ай бұрын
At my age, loading and unloading plates gets old. I would love to see additional: a lat pull-down, flyes, calf-raise, shoulder press, and shoulder shrugs but I’m wondering the erg’s flywheel needs a certain length to engage properly so short movements might not work.
@timwang4183
@timwang4183 2 ай бұрын
In fact, the new Concept2 machine is more like an isokinetic training device used in rehabilitation, but it has been adapted for single-arm or single-leg strength training, rather than providing full-body exercises like typical isokinetic equipment, which often comes with complex measurement systems requiring professional medical supervision. During my rehabilitation, the center had me use isokinetic training devices, along with computer software to measure indicators such as my angular velocity and muscle strength, reflecting changes in my muscle power and joint mobility. I see this as rehabilitation technology being integrated into the traditional fitness field, representing an upgrade for the fitness industry. In a sense, this marks the first time that fitness is becoming so scientifically driven, rather than being entirely dependent on conventional fitness methods.
@Zane_Zaminsky
@Zane_Zaminsky 2 ай бұрын
No negative resistance? If so, then “No go!”
@svengali5415
@svengali5415 2 ай бұрын
that's good because it's not targetted at you!
@volkerracho9481
@volkerracho9481 2 ай бұрын
Oh boy! I am an enthusiastic owner of the RowErg and the SkiErg and train on both machines every day. I guess I'll have to get the StrenghtErg now too.
@selfcritical
@selfcritical 2 ай бұрын
My first thought is that for strength development inertia flywheel resistance is probably gonna be more productive and compact than air resistance. Kbox, strexbox etc.
@toddlopes
@toddlopes 2 ай бұрын
As a Concept2 fan, I can definitely see the StrengthErg becoming a staple in my home gym soon! I plan to use it for HIIT days and to get quick strength workouts in when I'm short on time. It could even be suitable for my 75-year-old mother! What I love about it: compact size, lightweight design, PM5 monitor, Erg data link, quick weight/force adjustments, and the ability to work muscles to failure safely. Plus, the customer support and product warranty are top-notch. One suggestion for improvement would be to add angled multi-grip push and pull handles. I think the Ironmaster Ultimate Row Handle design could be a great reference for this. Also, how is the feel of the knurling on the push and pull handles?
@lonematrix
@lonematrix Ай бұрын
Love the innovative concept behind the StrengthErg, but definetely geared more towards seniors
@jenniferblanchard4856
@jenniferblanchard4856 2 ай бұрын
I am definitely in for this!
@CorporateSpaceBro
@CorporateSpaceBro Ай бұрын
What about the eccentric portion of the movement? Was there a reason of why they didn't think about it?
@elbastino
@elbastino 2 ай бұрын
Not having eccentric may look like a dealbreaker for most, but going till faillure concentric only can still build significant strength and musscle.
@samuelbonacorsi2048
@samuelbonacorsi2048 2 ай бұрын
I like this machine. I’m a big free weight guy but this machine has a place in a lot of people’s gym. I like the safety aspect
@FitnessCanterbury
@FitnessCanterbury 2 ай бұрын
This looks great! Is there any resistance/loading applied on the negative aspect of the rep?
@TheFighterjock1
@TheFighterjock1 22 күн бұрын
Looking at the concept of this it reminds me a ton like a Isokintetic dynometer. Ive had a fascination with the concept of isokintetics and this machine is probably the closest thing to that without investing in the dynometer. Definitely going to invest in this.
@mp455
@mp455 2 ай бұрын
as the flywheel gains momentum, it becomes easier to row. I'm unsure if you got a sense of that with the few reps you performed. I'd be interested to see if they are able to calculate a weight equivalence in pounds to give buyers a standard to compare against, but can imagine that'd be difficult on a type of machine whose power output changes based on the inertia of the flywheel at any given time. It is an interesting piece, but as someone interested in dedicated strength training, I can't see how I'd incorporate this into my training.
@jerryayres5744
@jerryayres5744 2 ай бұрын
Love my C2 rower and considering swapping out my Rogue Echo bike for the BikeErg. I do also strength training with body weight and kettlebells. Wish there were a way to try one of these before purchase and before totally changing my training modality. Too bad these (and the other C2 machines) aren’t available somewhere in a retail store to try out.
@joecowan3719
@joecowan3719 2 ай бұрын
I keep thinking out loud...when willl Concept2 come out with a new product...mind blown! I really see this replacing my wife's 2 day a week db rountine and me using for powerlifting accessories! Well done once again Concept2! 👏
@DarkHorseRowing
@DarkHorseRowing 2 ай бұрын
So you think you’ll end up with one?
@joecowan3719
@joecowan3719 2 ай бұрын
@@DarkHorseRowing Heck yeah! I sent your video to my training buddy and he definitely wants one for his home gym too. I am already looking on their site for a notification reminder for when it goes live to sell 👀
@CardioKing408
@CardioKing408 2 ай бұрын
Wished they could replicate the overpriced VersaClimber.
@mrqualityreviewer4752
@mrqualityreviewer4752 2 ай бұрын
@@CardioKing408there are many alternatives to the Versaclimber I have the home model great workout but wish I had resistance
@chewbucca
@chewbucca 2 ай бұрын
@@CardioKing408 I thought I was the only one that thought about a C2 versaclimber!
@simonhastelow2491
@simonhastelow2491 Ай бұрын
I like the fact that you can isolate legs and arms but also add a push element. I have a damaged left arm that limits push reps (bench presses are impossible for me), this would be much safer.
@jndq591
@jndq591 2 ай бұрын
Looks awesome. I just found my 2025 fitness self gift. Really eager to see reviews from different expertise fields about this machine.
@DarkHorseRowing
@DarkHorseRowing 2 ай бұрын
I think that’s the most interesting part is where will it land in the industry
@DanielleVindez-b4c
@DanielleVindez-b4c 2 ай бұрын
Interesting! I use my present erg as a strength devise, and will wait and see how this erg develops.
@lsantilli
@lsantilli 2 ай бұрын
This should go into every doctors office/PT office, but from a home health standpoint it’s great for old people.
@kitsch302
@kitsch302 2 ай бұрын
Love the employee interviews
@iliketurtles536
@iliketurtles536 2 ай бұрын
oh I love this. Small footprint also!
@stu1wyatt
@stu1wyatt 2 ай бұрын
Already have the SkiErg and Rower, love what they do and their whole philosophy
@jaygist3603
@jaygist3603 2 ай бұрын
Do you get eccentric contractions with the strength exercises on this machine? Are there benefits for concentric only in strength training?
@davegaleuk
@davegaleuk 2 ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of Concept 2 equipment for my own masters sprint athletics training program. It will be interesting to see if the StregthErg will lend itself to fast, explosive, heavy reps
@oneofthehumans7465
@oneofthehumans7465 2 ай бұрын
I feel like the upper push looks too low. It seems a little awkward
@Shopwolfe
@Shopwolfe 2 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@mski13339
@mski13339 2 ай бұрын
what kind of shoes are you wearing?
@viceamiralyamakaji5847
@viceamiralyamakaji5847 2 ай бұрын
Intéressant, je suis un athlète de force qui es venu à l’endurance par le rowerg et le bikeerg, je suis donc curieux d’essayer celui ci en sachant d’où je viens.
@DnBarPoet77
@DnBarPoet77 25 күн бұрын
I'm interested. I own the RowErg, which I primarily use as cross-training for trail running/racing. This may be the answer to my need to strength train without going to the gym? At 65, I just find it hard to discipline myself to go to the gym consistently.
@redeux
@redeux 2 ай бұрын
I love our C2 rower but I've used other strength machines in the past and I'm not completely sold on flywheel for flywheel sake. I think it will come down to cost and the number of use cases.
@spencernussrallah
@spencernussrallah 2 ай бұрын
This is a home gym for people (i.e. NYC) for whom before it was impossible to have a home gym, but whose schedules could benefit immensely from a home gym and a 20 minute strength workout.
@primaltone
@primaltone 2 ай бұрын
I own an SkiERG and and a Concept 2 rower. I am very interested in this product, especially the ability to build strength without injury, but I would like to see several professional reviews before I jump on it. Concept2 makes awesome products and I love the intent. I just want to make sure it's right for me. I understand this isn't a deep dive, but I'd also like to know what else it can do versatility-wise.
@balcerzaq
@balcerzaq 2 ай бұрын
You didn't mention C2 Dyno - basically very similiar thing to this.
@squealer42
@squealer42 2 ай бұрын
Two things holding me back for years acquiring a leg-press machine. They take up too much space and ... I'd get bored. The strength-erg may solve both!
@squealer42
@squealer42 2 ай бұрын
I don't want to load plates; I don't want legs only; I don't want a beast to move around in the garage. Who knew you could get so much resistance from just a flywheel? Plus, I get metrics? Sign me up!
@foundfoundfound1
@foundfoundfound1 2 ай бұрын
simple is best. the rower, bike, & ski are simple, reliable, and trusted. for strength barbells are the same. this machine won’t replace barbells. it places no demands on the core, doesn’t load the spine, or allow full range of motion. concept2 should work on updating the pm5 with wifi and a second bluetooth channel. they should also make the damper settings more visible in concept2 green so they can be seen in low light.
@richardmather1906
@richardmather1906 12 күн бұрын
Agree that this can't replace barbells. I can see this as a rehab machine or for the very elderly or disabled. But there is no replacing free weights for strength.
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