Conclusion of Nar Shaddaa (fragment 8) - MEETRA SURIK, THE COMPLETE STORY - Star Wars KOTOR 2

[@Darkish333]

KOTOR 2 has such amazing dialogue. I just find myself returning to it all the time. I really appreciate you making these videos and uploading them!

[@Noxxarian]

Happy to hear :) the dialogues are really something! Some unused lines in there that I'm trying to bring back to life and use in appropriate contexts too. Looking forward to sharing more!

[@emanueltwr]

Thank you for all of your hard work. It is like watching a KOTOR series . Hope to watch it with my son in the future. Cheers.

[@MagicSpud]

3:28 Honestly the Twins got overconfident. In this moment, Atton 'The Fool' correctly assessed them and in doing so proved he was already a step ahead and that their own assessment of him was off. It would've been wiser of them to disengage at this point. But I can't blame them for thinking they could still handle him. Also putting in work with those Echani teachings 👍

[@JabamiLain]

Although I know Korriban is the last planet visited canonically, it also seems to be the one where the least things happen, so I prefer to visiti it first (I know the cave will only be accessible later for this), especially because my Meetra starts headed to the Darkside, so she kinda felt the pull to the planet and take the initiative in the fight as soon as possible. She only goes to Nar Shaddaa after Dantooine, but before Onderon. Personally, I think having it be the third planet strikes a perfect balance in her story and character.

[@BrambleBear]

Crime in the KZbin system, it's like the economy. Too true Mira. Too true.

[@Angelus_The_Red_Dragon]

I really like G0-T0. Very fascinating character. I especially love his Gehordean approach to things. Characters like him and the Bounty Hunters show you don't need the Force to help shape the galaxy. Only your will matters.

[@Noxxarian]

I can't wait to edit more of his dialogues. It's really interesting to view the world from his angle :)

[@JabamiLain]

​@@Noxxarianindeed. I wished he had survived until the Prequel era, truth be told. In a galaxy filled with Eldritch stuff, it's probably for the best we have a robot who can not be touched by the origin of those chaotic Eldritch horrors.

[@Angelus_The_Red_Dragon]

I like both Hanharr and Mira as squadmates. Both fascinating on their own way. So I headcanon that Kreia uses her trickery so Mira and Hanharr won't even realize the other is there, and only Meetra, Visas, the droids and Atton are aware the two are there at the same time.

[@Noxxarian]

That would be interesting. Though, in my opinion, I don't think Kreia would care too much to invest so much effort in keeping both of them. As we saw in many instances, she even complained about Surik recruiting so many allies. I do wish it was more weeded out on why EITHER is needed for Surik. My angle is that Mira is an adequate hunter who may be of use as an ally. But there really isn't any big motivation as there is for Handmaiden or Visas, for example.

[@JabamiLain]

​@@Noxxarianit is meant to be a test. She's trying to get her to distrust her allies more. My headcanon is that she's putting the effort to facilitate her isolation plan, but also because Hanharr beated Meetra, but Meetra unconsciously used the Force to connect to Zez Ka El in order to keep herself alive. She thought that paradoxical outcome could lead to many lessons.

[@JabamiLain]

If the Twi'Lek sisters are such tough adversaries when you go to Nar Shaddaa so early, I have two questions: -How did you defeat them ? -If Atton is not yet at his strongest, how did he beat them, canonically speaking ?

[@Noxxarian]

It is difficult to balance gameplay mechanics with lore, so sometimes the gameplay must take a hit, in my opinion. Atton should be able to beat the twi'leks easily because, in Kreia's words "Atton is far cleverer than he feigns to be." And canonically, he spoke of dealing with much stronger adversaries than mere bounty hunters.

[@JabamiLain]

​@@Noxxarianoh ! That does make sense.

[@JabamiLain]

Still going on the logic of the previous comment, in the first game, I did something similar when I decided to visit Kashyyk first, leaving Tatooine for second. I did it, because it was close to that Station around Yavin I thought it would be more productive. And symbolically speaking, it shows our character, unlike Revan during the first time, already commited himself to the Darkside pull, so Tatooine was taking a few steps back to reduce the pull's effects.

[@Angelus_The_Red_Dragon]

Why does he turn against us later ? How did Vrook convince him and the other one to turn against us ? Also, how do you make Visas teach you Force sight ? Is that "Restored mod" ?

[@viktoriyaforrest8265]

About Visas teaching the Force sight is definitely not a thing of Restored mod - I saw that on vanilla countless times. It is a thing of influence - at its max Visas will teach you this.

[@Angelus_The_Red_Dragon]

@viktoriyaforrest8265 how do I know I am at its max ?

[@viktoriyaforrest8265]

@@Angelus_The_Red_Dragon Keep asking Visas "how her people are able to see" or something like this. Eventually she will teach you Force sight. There is a mod to see the actual influence value, but I forgot it's name. It might not even take a maximum of influence on Visas - it might be enough just from talks with her on the Hawk, without taking her somewhere for extra influence points.

[@Angelus_The_Red_Dragon]

@viktoriyaforrest8265 thank you.

[@viktoriyaforrest8265]

@@Angelus_The_Red_Dragon No problem.