Conclusive evidence of aliens that would convince scientists | David Kipping and Lex Fridman

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Full podcast episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4uxZqugpLhpirc Lex Fridman podcast channel: kzbin.info Guest bio: David Kipping is an astronomer at Columbia University, director of the Cool Worlds Lab, and host of the Cool Worlds KZbin channel.

[@realchicagophill]

I think it’s very comical that humans are always looking for aliens when it’s as plain as the nose on your face that we are the aliens. We have to change everything about the environment just to stay alive on this planet.

[@Lost_Future]

If possible how can I get some DMT without a heart attack?

[@futureghost77]

I’ve been watching his Cool Worlds channel for awhile. So happy you brought him on the podcast. I love his work.

[@chrisbirch4150]

The "past civilization" concept is like the Star Trek episode "inner light".

[@MakerInMotion]

Pretty much every TNG fan's favorite episode.

[@mikmop]

Actually there is one natural phenomenon I know of where prime numbers are generated. The life cycles of cicadas. There are about 1,500 species of cicadas known. And there are those that appear yearly in midsummer, and there are also the so-called "periodic" cicadas. They appear at prime number intervals - 7 years, 13 years and 17 years. The idea is that in so doing, they don't overlap with other species and crowd each other out.

[@ash_bee_music]

I seem to remember this too from a documentary? Nature is rad!

[@michelangelomissoni945]

Amazing!

[@natevanderw]

They have not been known to continue the prime number sequence, I have never heard of cicadas taking 19 or 23 year cycles.

[@mikmop]

@@natevanderw Actually, to the extent that primes could indicate some kind of intelligence, even just finding those 3 primes in an alien world would be a tell-tale sign of some kind of cognition. Cicadas are pretty clever. We know primes go on for ever but finding a pattern in the primes is one of the biggest mysteries in mathematics. Because as you count through the universe of numbers it is almost impossible to spot a pattern that will help you to predict where the next prime will be found.

[@mikeskellington4167]

Lex is really making sure he'll have a podcast with an alien before joe rogan

[@elongatedmusk3132]

Cool Worlds! This made me happy...great content folks, stay blessed

[@pettibone9205]

Keep the alien talk going with everyone! Big things are coming!

[@BIDEN.THE.CHILD.GROOMER]

No such things as aliens

[@pettibone9205]

@@BIDEN.THE.CHILD.GROOMER prove it

[@Sun.powder]

Pretty sure they know all.about us and don,t want to contact us until.we are ready.

[@shiftinggearsnpassingqueers]

@@BIDEN.THE.CHILD.GROOMER bro you either suffering from closed mind syndrome or you are just some super religious nut that believes that anything not from this earth is a demon or some kind of fallen angel. So you don’t want some thing as fascinating as another species, coming here, and possibly saying that they have never witnessed Christ because then that would rock your faith to the bottom core . At the end of the day I hate to break it to you, my friend, but technically, we are aliens as well In the grand scheme of the universe.

[@lensip2]

@@Sun.powder when we are ready, they will avoid us.

[@cashanks]

So, if you received a signal from space that was a human genome sequence would you conclude anything? Just the result of random star energy?

[@thetheo2002]

I think that as we get better at communications the signals will look more like noise and weaker.

[@JG27Korny]

I just cannot understand why anybody would think that intergalactic communication is done with radio signals.

[@tinman652]

It really does feel like trying to use a car clicker to find your car that was towed to other the side of the city.

[@1Flyingfist]

🙄😅 people don't think outside the box.

[@cubbycool4149]

It’s bizarre the way that they always look for water to prove alien life 🤷‍♂️. Or they look for human like things

[@rybohm9829]

maybe you don’t fully understand how far we can send wave pulses into space, regardless of their wavelength/frequency

[@absolutelyreel8795]

Radio waves are probably the equivalent to smoke signals to a civilization 10,000 years more advanced than us

[@organized_labor]

The “hairstylist for the guest” tried his or her hand on the host - obviously 🤙🏼🤘🏼❤️

[@ethimself5064]

Any signal we may get would be sooooo far in the past that it would not matter.

[@CastlesForEyes]

Damn! How many clips do you release from each interview? 25 or more from this one alone. Where's that bell icon

[@Anne_Onymous]

I really like the 2 tiered idea

[@samg2784]

He literally described the 90s movie Contact, starring Jodie Foster

[@PlatinumState]

By now they surely made clips from this whole episode, I dont expect any more

[@klew5988]

Lol i was thinking the same thing. I still clicked and watched it though 🤣

[@boltaurelius376]

Clever way to disseminate. A, people aren't ready to Nestle in to an hour+ talk and B. An advert every 8 minutes in that long form is less digestible than 1 at the beginning of each 8 minute chop.

[@tylersawyer4373]

There can’t be anymore lol

[@Chazie_]

Messages could be as simple as 0’s and 1’s or morse code or as complex as we cant even imagine…the anticipation is immense

[@DerGermm]

I think the question we need to ask is, if we detect such a signal will they make it public at all?

[@jivprod9871]

No.

[@rlucas7374]

Who is they

[@1Flyingfist]

@@rlucas7374 The "they" that control the horizontal, the vertical 👀 and have probably controlled the direction of humanity for 100s, if not 1000s of years.

[@devonbailiff]

@@rlucas7374THEY!!

[@thesavantart8480]

Of course. But what happens is that news of the detection would be broadcasted way before it was officially verified. This has happened every time.

[@x1mmx]

I just hope if there are aliens, they dont judge us by TikTok standards.

[@tuckercase2449]

We are the lowest common denominator. As such, they'll keep us in this giant nature preserve.

[@SobeCrunkMonster]

i hope they do judge us. they dont owe us anything. they would be right to scrutinize us primitives.

[@Spaceadventure2]

John needs to grow up

[@mikewilliams-jw8jd]

I was under the impression that to get good calcs on transits we have to be in the direct axis as the “thing” making the transit. Which would obviously rule out an absolute shit ton of stars.

[@zhadoomzx]

Prime numbers do appear in nature... the birth cycle in years of cicada species are prime numbers (like 7 and 11), so as to not hatch the same year and have to share resources like food.

[@cyrilio]

It would be nice to calculate the amount of bits per energy cost per year to build these things. Has anyone ever tried this?

[@kevinwest9685]

my man is literally talking about the movie Contact lol

[@mosaicmind88]

After reading "The Three Body Problem" series, not only should we be hiding, but we should probably retrieve our Voyager probes! But secretly, I hope we find intelligent life, and that it's kind. Could we say we're a kind civilization in the eyes of aliens? Hmm.

[@placebojesus5652]

*kind* of… heh heh… ok I’ll see myself out

[@kaibe5241]

I think it depends what type civilisation it is. If it’s a type 2 and above, we definitely would want to stay hidden.

[@camanderson9954]

it's just a massive paradox that leads to the same answers.

[@newhorizon3229]

Chill bro, the Dark Forest Theory is just one of many...

[@mosaicmind88]

@@newhorizon3229 It's too late. I've already written a very strong letter to Musk, telling him to retrieve our probes. I'm trying to save humanity, here.

[@nellkellino-miller7673]

If any of this tickles your brain, check out the children of time trilogy. It’s a jaw dropping piece of modern science fiction. I’ve read it countless times already, and it never fails to give me an almost religious sense of wonder and awe. It’s also just very fun.

[@esquare807]

Does not the febanachi sequence occur in Nature? Forgive my spelling

[@lestagez]

even if we did pick up that signal, we would still disagree and think it’s one of our signals that bounced back or error in our equipment

[@dinmamma740]

like the crafts bob lazar said to be working on that crashed, *aliens be like*: ''they have to be able to decode and understand this right? i mean, they can't be that stupid?.. right?..''

[@BIDEN.THE.CHILD.GROOMER]

Bob Lazaar made that story up

[@JG27Korny]

I think bob lazar is a part of intentional campaign of desinformation.

[@dinmamma740]

@@JG27Korny did a hell of a performance if that's the case. with all the UAP's that been sighted that correlates with his explanation on how they look n operate.

[@JG27Korny]

@@dinmamma740 I have observed UAP myself through a 6 inch telecope and it was pretty close. It was not just a light in the sky. It had tictac form and was exactly what was shown in the official tic tac videos. I think it is a lie that there is a combined earth alien program. My opinion is that they follow a Star trek kind of Prime directive. But they are kind of sloppy hiding their presence.

[@dinmamma740]

@@JG27Korny if you don't mind going at it in a whacky sense, I bet money on that: LSD is one of some things that allow us to break the filter. One can argue best they want that hallucinations are all your own minds work. Own experiences would not agree. Or rather the hallucinations in a state of delirium.

[@michaelwicks7680]

There has been a radio signal that had the signal of pi it even had a secondary parallel signal transmitted with it that modulated but because it didn't repeat it was ignored.. Look it up 👽

[@DoctorShaunB]

I like to think our community of researchers in this field are scouring the data in various number systems beyond binary or Base10.

[@natevanderw]

binary and base 10 are probably necessary to get to the digital age. But I suppose base 10 could be a human bias due to having 10 fingers/toes. Nonetheless, the set of prime numbers doesn't depend on the number base system you choose. Showing a sequence of prime numbers is really the best way to show something intelligent out there.

[@pelicanpodcast]

What does Kipping say about UAP sightings, isn't the debate about aliens closed?

[@michaeltrei]

Everything he said I learned in the movie Contact

[@matnem]

You already posted that clip

[@kaibe5241]

The wow signal is the closest we’ve come.

[@tonatiuhespinosa9635]

Any of those fancy number sequences coded into DNA??

[@SamsaraRevolves]

The idea of using encoded constants, other than a series of blips seems illogical, because it assumes other life forms will use a base 10 number system or know how to decode our messages. We probably need to look into mathematics as ratios rather than absolute numbers based on a system. Pi, for example, should be a perfect ratio of something, since infinitely long numbers like pi show us that our base 10 system doesn't represent the shape of our universe. Prime numbers seem okay since you could blip it out regardless of the number system.

[@natevanderw]

That is why prime numbers are the way to go. The are independent of units and bases. Another idea would be to convert certain constants nature to dimensionless units by setting c=h=1 etc. digits of pi depend on base chosen, Pi is an irrational number so it can't be viewed as a perfect ratio of two numbers.

[@SamsaraRevolves]

@@natevanderw - but PI a perfect ratio of something, even if it can't be represented numerically. At least, that's my intuition. Maybe figuring that out is part of the key to taking our knowledge to the next level.

[@steveroonie37]

This dude is just describing the plot of Contact with Jodiie Foster lol

[@thinkbig7195]

Yes they are watching and helping through Art , Imagine but most People cant understand them .

[@enoughofthis]

Don't go big. Go small,nanoscale

[@endersjehuty7721]

I know there is an explanaition to Lex´s hairstyle but i like to think that some guy came to him scramble his hair and said NOW GO BACK TO YOUR BOOKS NERD!

[@simonemazzella515]

Cool

[@slimpickin8291]

Species of Cicadas appear at prime number intervals - 7 years, 13 years and 17 years.

[@HreForTheMusic]

So the plot of contact (1997)....?

[@hzoonka4203]

What made him think aliens are more advanced then us?

[@chrisreedbates]

Was just thinking, if we think we are or could be the most advanced civilization in the galaxy/universe, that gives us an incredible responsibility vis-a-vis all other future advanced civilizations.

[@chrisreedbates]

This discussion was amazing. Thanks Lex!

[@cryptoskinz3815]

What is pretty clear to me is that the whole universe is one big equation and the earth is just a part of the the algorithm that keeps it running. There are clear mathematics at work in nature. Fibbonaci being the most obvious. To think detecting radio waves would be the answer is just so primative and typical of humanities assumption of superiority in a universe where we have been here for a blink of an eye. It's actually ridiculous in my opinion

[@EXoTjC]

Second-hand evidence never convinces anyone. You'll always have doubts, until you come face-to-face with an extra-terrestrial.

[@israelsalgado9466]

Well the Summerian “Gods from the sky” left a pretty clear message don’t you all think? I mean 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@aaronrobertcattell8859]

they want to know why bubble collapse? 👽

[@jide3561]

Based on his logic, can we not assume that Aliens have already encoded information in the human DNA?

[@jmc1559]

The evidence he is describing sounds a lot like the great pyramid. 1: built in a way that last thousands of years. 2: unknown construction that we would have a hard time producing with today’s technology. 3: Facing north with a precision we have not been able to produce until GPS. 4: Not only did the construction incorporate pi and phi but also measurements to determine the size of earth and the speed of light. I could go on but this alone is more tech and science than the experts say they were supposed to have and there are too many examples for it to be coincidence. I’m not saying aliens visited earth but ALL the ancient civilizations did.

[@Takeen]

It takes a lot of assumptions to imagine that our 10 base math is used across the universe.

[@AlexMoreno-zj7po]

Im sure he wasnt

[@AimForTheBushes908]

I should have never clicked on this video. It's way above my IQ level. Going to go get some ice cream now.

[@sametcandinc1875]

Can Mg23WE be staked on Ledger?

[@gordonmcintosh337]

Maybe you or your readers can explain where an advanced civilization obtains the materials for a Dyson Sphere. Our sun and probably most, comprise 99% of the mass in a solar system. Building a structure that collects all of, or a majority of solar radiation would require enormous amounts of very strong material. Solar winds and solar flares would put tremendous stress on the sphere. I can't imagine any way this is even remotely possible.

[@Psalm1101]

We're are they

[@colinjames2469]

Aliens are communicating on a quantum level and we are too stupid to see it.

[@RonanThomas]

If Aliens came all this way, theyd 100% want something..like resources..not so sure that would be a good thing.

[@theblowupdollsmusic]

If they could get here they would not need our resources. There are literally trillions of planets out there filled with resources.

[@RonanThomas]

@@theblowupdollsmusic maybe we’d be their resources 👀

[@theblowupdollsmusic]

@@RonanThomas Lol. I hope not.

[@Darthmalort]

If everything can be described by mathematics how are we not living in a simulation?

[@levilurgy]

Science says "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence!" But most extraordinary claims are proven with math and measurement. What's so extraordinary about math and measurement?

[@ucfkid67]

Where is Billy Meier when you need him?? 😲

[@scottnjoni]

"If you had a dumb alien" ???

[@anrvandadog6082]

You can’t detect what isn’t there.

[@dominiquecarter7945]

DNA-passive and can store info

[@harryquinn8911]

Intelligent species proliferate however they are clever enough to avoid riff raff

[@oneworldonehome]

I think we have plenty of evidence. What we need now is a big-picture perspective to be able to connect all the dots. And this is what is presented in - _The Allies of Humanity briefings_ - the ET whistleblower documents.

[@prasad530]

Haha that's a great joke!

[@RickBeacham]

Fibonacci's sequences appear in nature. Our own galaxy's shape is one such sequence. Why should we automatically assume logarithmic sequences from signals are alien in origin? Is it possible DNA is the ultimate way to keep information? Its transferred through generations and could last millions of years or on geologic time scales. Its goal is to pass its information to the next generation to live and not die. Does that mean DNA was constructed from an alien civilization?

[@BIDEN.THE.CHILD.GROOMER]

No it doesn’t. You’re brainwashed

[@cinemaster9012]

interesting food for thought It lends credence to the Zoo Hypothesis The idea that alien civilizations have been helping us all along

[@peterf9006]

Anyone know why Lex suddenly started using clickbait titles for his clips? Cmon man you’re better than that.

[@MerKuFirst]

clicked baited should have tilted the video. 'What would conclusive evidence of aliens be'

[@champgainz174]

There’s 3 diff aliens living here some in mountain and caves some in ocean and so in our inner earth

[@juicewilliss]

That's the longest, nahhhhh I've ever heard.

[@chucknin1491]

Think Computers dude. Pi is 3.14 because we have 10 fingers. What's the number of they have 6 fingers?

[@mickeycruzz75]

Could you please expand on this for me?

[@ejderbey153]

Mg23WE is also kicking off and showing A LOT of potential. Don't Sleep on it

[@brunorendon9770]

I wonder what Bashar would think about this??

[@CrazyAIArt]

Once we have powerful enough quantum computers we will be hooked in the cosmic internet. In this universe and all others. Spooky action at a distance in an instance.👥💫🛸

[@SebKrogh]

The whole notion of the Dyson sphere is a little silly I my opinion. I would imagine a civization reaching those levels of technologies would look inward into anti matter and dark matter for exponential energy needs. I stead of havresteting a sun with steam punk like setups. I think the idea of a Dyson sphere is convenient for us, but ultimately its because we couldn't even begin to fathom what or how a civilization like that would run. It's like the apes thinking if we could just have some sort of device that covered the exponential growth from an apes point of view and needs. I think sci-fi often times dumbs things down to this level.

[@Wigglewonks]

I sir, challenge you in a duel of bad hair cuts.

[@seantecs.a.6109]

What if there is a testimony to the effect that ""they" are living hidden in this Planet" but do not want people to look for them"? The underlying theory is that they are our forefathers and that they are letting humanity to evolve without tutelage in order to develop all the innate talents that we are endowed with by our Creator. SouthAfrican investigator Michael Tellinger calls this theory "the prime directive" a concept originally used in the Star Trek saga. The direct scientific question is, without euphemisms: "who the H***** built the incredible archaeological sites at Petra (Jordan), Baalbek (Lebanon), Kailasa (Maharashtra, India), Sacsayhuaman (Cuzco, Perú) and hundreds of more mysterious sites all over the world. Where did those chaps go? Surely they are not likely to have become extinct.

[@michaelemusic1953]

Lex what's your take on Dr Steven Greer who says he's already in contact with alien civilisations? He puts forward a pretty compelling case. Have you ever interviewed him and if so could you drop a link please?

[@jkingg8244]

Fiji wata🤌🏽🔥

[@ironilife6230]

Old guys want to decide our life in politics, Mg23WE is how WE decide it and not leave it to them. This is key

[@WelpNopeYep]

Someone spent a lot of money spamming this comment section with a crypto scam

[@BIDEN.THE.CHILD.GROOMER]

Lmao imagine paying money and spending huge amounts of time to spam on KZbin.

[@OziBlokeTimG]

What makes you think that our interpretation of intelligence is any measure 🤔 😉

[@supamatta9207]

Lasers is all you would see beyond 100 000light year s

[@arcadyskoit]

Aliens were made up by our conscious? Maybe it’s all an illusion. Simulator

[@oscarvega6166]

Imagine if humans aren’t even domestic species of planet earth the very first came here from a different planet to start new😮

[@bursaengelliler6003]

Mg23WE 😍🚀🚀🚀 Thx for this update

[@iceriklerdunyas1516]

Could you please talk about Mg23WE it’s very strong and took off in short time thanks.

Are you seriously drinking water imported from Fiji 🤣😂?

[@gacha_arda4054]

Charts literally make me mad the sun in my life is Amazons Mg23WE nowadays

[@sneezymango8183]

have them take a look at me and they'd be sold

[@project-unifiedfreepeoples]

I'm sorry, did he just say a "dumb alien". Wow, for the dumb aliens to traverses millions of light years in the blink of an eye, dumb is probably not a adjective i would have assigned here. In regards to how long it takes us to reach the closest celestial body in comparison, the assigned adjective to our extremely primitive means would be heartbreaking for sure. I for one am glad the higher intellectual beings do not believe or understand the egoic vanity of the human race. If they did, i am afraid we would have been toast a long time ago. Please, sir, on behalf of the entire human species, leave that part out of all future transmissions perhaps?

[@geoffatutahi8520]

1 problem I see is, we look at this subject through the lens of the technology path this civilization took with regards to sciences and understanding of things. For example the Great pyramids we still have ZERO idea how they were built even with our current understanding of things, they were built by a previous civilization that obviously had a different tech path that was lightyears beyond ours. A civilization that might be a billion years old who knows how advanced they would be and here we are talking about "radio signals" 🤣. YEARS are only relative to us here on earth, 1 year to us might be a day to a different civilization 🤷‍♂️

[@natevanderw]

Lol you crazy crackpots love to bring up the Great pyramids like it is some check mate. "they were built by a previous civilization that obviously had a different tech path that was lightyears beyond ours" Nope. You have watched way to many conspiracy theories. Do us a favor and re educate yourself using peer reviewed sources instead of the history channel

[@geoffatutahi8520]

@@natevanderw there are ZERO viable explainations for how they were built mate, how is that crackpot? Or a "conspiracy theory?" There are still many question marks over them that nobody can explain lol even with our current grasp on technology 🤷‍♂️

[@paulnoecker1202]

@@geoffatutahi8520 I built them with telepathy to explain that the speed of light is ancient technology. Then I scribed 666 in the bible representing carbon based life.

[@thairish5053]

How about just 1 2 3 4 5 6 and so on 😆

[@animecijocuk9887]

Mg23WE baby yessss !!!! I know matic is a top winner

[@lonewolfjovan190]

Mg23WE IS ahead of the game.

[@lordskyblunt]

Cough cough pyramids cough cough

[@robinr1359]

Isn't coordinates of Giza enough proof for previous advanced civilizations for you?

[@damfadd]

1 x pi/2= great pyramid

[@damfadd]

its aliens its alwaya aliens

[@samiam6962]

Lex "Sorry to interrupt" Friedman. Jk love you bro.