Concord - Why it Flopped

[@ReforgeGaming]

LIVE DISCUSSION - kzbin.info86WXiknmAvs

[@Spartanslay3r7]

They JUST announced it's going offline by September 6th and refunding everyone who bought it. 💀💀💀

[@ReforgeGaming]

crazy!

[@jasonnchuleft894]

History in the making folks! 😅

[@sealboy1211]

I thought you were joking but wow, you are not. 11 days….this thing set records.

[@bingusdingus39]

Sony's also releasing Astro Bot the same day. It's like they're telling people to forget about Concord and just play Astro Bot

[@AlekTrev006]

@@ReforgeGamingLooking forward to tomorrow’s follow-up show on the shutdown, Lono ! Gotta be one for the ‘gaming record books’ 😮 ??

[@severinevans346]

Hopefully they found the modern audience they were looking for

[@ReforgeGaming]

lol

[@CidGuerreiro1234]

They've found them, all 700 of them.

[@severinevans346]

@@CidGuerreiro1234 Seems like it

[@LeeoGoneWild]

@@severinevans346 he responded to my comment and does not believe DEI was a reason why it failed, alarming

[@severinevans346]

@@LeeoGoneWild Well it may not be the whole reason but it's definitely a huge one if you ask me. Me and Lono disagree sometimes but hey that just is what it is and it happens. I wouldn't get too twisted out of shape by it you're not alone there.

[@xKingSlayer517x]

Perfect example of a game nobody asked for, nobody wanted, and nobody cares about. Its not F2P and adds a game to a genre that has flooded the market so to speak. Chasing trends doesn’t work anymore and it shows.

[@ReforgeGaming]

exactly

[@Hedgehobbit]

The best thing about Concord is that it exposed which KZbinrs are willing to speak the truth and which ones will ignore reality to push a narrative.

[@countquackula8539]

No one player mode, terrible character designs, and bad release date. Seriously, games were lackluster in June and July. It would've been perfect for a June release date. It was set to fail.

[@maxsun13]

I'd pay 60 for a 15 hour long single player mode, same characters, that led to a satisfying MP experience afterward...

[@TheMeanArena]

Just another "met too" multiplayer game. Hope they all flop!

[@robbiekeller1353]

This is a weird one, most new games made off new ip are made on a budget, if they are successful they get more money to make it better or make a sequel. Why did they need to put that much money on a game in such an over saturated market?

[@grimly8352]

Warframe. Released in 2013 and still going today. Sure maybe it doesn't have a massive player base, so? There is a reason why it's 2024, it's still receiving new content, and the player base it does have is still there.

[@XSi1entSpartanX]

I’m surprised it launched given how disinterested the public was upon reveal. Live service and Sony just don’t seem to be mixing well.

[@ReforgeGaming]

helldivers 2 is their north star right now

[@Hedgehobbit]

People were disinterested because the characters suck. I don't know why people try to overanalyse things.

[@Citizen_JV]

The main reason why this game flopped is because it was in competition with way too many other online PVP games and it just couldn't bear any fruit.

[@ReforgeGaming]

a huge reason for sure

[@CidGuerreiro1234]

$40 for a new franchise when most if not all th giants in that field are f2p. Also, it started development when there was a high demand for the genre, but delivered when everyone was alreadu full of it, and/or already sinked countless hours in the competition. People who have 100's of hours in Overwatch, Valorant and whatnot don't wanna start it all over in a different game.

[@kpsk8031]

I don't consume media I find visually repulsive.

[@ryu-ken]

There are no hot or sexy characters

[@justvibingtomusic]

That $40 price sounds like an investor who doesn't play video games and doesn't understand how much money is in "free" games.

[@iamskyfall]

This is the danger of waiting until a game is close to launch to reveal it. Not to mention, this game likely would’ve landed better if it had an accompanying single player campaign. Personally, I would’ve picked it up if it had a SP campaign. I have ZERO interest in a MP only title.

[@Canis.Lupus.Arctos]

yeah, personally I don't think this flop has anything related to being an "arena" shooter... put simply the most likely 2 factors are _hero shooter_ and _saturation_ unless you are a true pioneer odds are you'll be retreading old ground to at least some extend... taste is highly subjective, but popular things are not so much in the sense of: some things are more popular than others... the obvious place to try and appeal is on character design (the heroes) and frankly by popular standards, those are arguably bad... now, as for competitors, there are well established "hero shooters" in the market, and there are only so many players interested in that genre, so either you appeal enough for them to drop the current one they are playing or you appeal to new players... both hard moves for a new IP to pull off in a saturated niche... I would agree on early access point, alas if they wanna charge for the base game during official launch then it follows they would charge even if heavily discounted for EA too... but most of the competitors to this game are actually free to play... so...the only thing EA would help them would be on "canceling the game b4 a disastrous launch", but I'll be the 1st too admit is way easier to say this now, after the fact cheers homie XD

[@lidge1994]

Baldur's Gate 3 is a huge, award winning example of how Early Access can make your game more engaging to the audience to the point of winning Game of the Year! The issue with these new games is they see predatory business practices and they see profit, but they don't get that between those 2 things you need a good idea, a unique concept and a GREAT game before you can start the predatory stuff...nah, they just make a basic, generic game, add the predatory shit and call it a day saying "we're about to be millionaires!"

[@steelcitykings28]

People want something new, they gave us something we already have, similar to star field.

[@TheFos88]

Starfield is great and fresh Bethesda take on a space epic though? Not comparable in the slightest. Unless you're just on that particular hate bandwagon of course.

[@steelcitykings28]

@@TheFos88 starfield is literally just a watered down version of their past titles. The systems are my sluggish and the “worlds” are far less lifeless. You could play hundreds of hours of Skyrim and not need a single mod. Yet starfield released in a state that is being upheld by its modding community. Because again the game is the same thing and people have been playing for years, just with a space theme over it, hell fallout had a show release about it and suddenly more people are talking about that then starfield? I can almost guarantee you that both of the past titles listed have better current players then starfield, yet you’d still be willing to make absurd accusations, all just to praise something that should have been held to a higher standard. Like I don’t know maybe a “game of the year” standard? Games like elden ring, baldurs gate, black myth are actually trying to set new standards and bring something to the table that people haven’t seen. Hell even terraria still has better numbers then starfield and that releases over a decade ago 💀😂

[@steelcitykings28]

@@TheFos88 that is the reason why companies like bungie and Bethesda are going to fail. They are expected to make great games without innovating. They’re expected to capture large portions of the gaming market with material we already have, solely because it’s the safest route, it’s the least risky route in terms of developing.

[@TheFos88]

@@steelcitykings28 as a guy who's put tons of hours into Bethesda games I was kid paying Morrowind, I have over 1k hours in Starfield since release and look forward to coming back. It's a fantastic new BGS game and at the end of the day, that's all us fans wanted.

[@steelcitykings28]

@@TheFos88 love how you start it off by comparing it to, yet again another past title that’s 2 DECADES old, yet finish it off claiming it’s new. It’s ok for “fans” to be ok with their long time favorite companies recent release bringing back memories and sticking with you. It certainly doesn’t mean it’s free of any criticism. Especially when you’re screaming from the roof tops about how far your games come to NOT just be another one of your past titles. Especially when you’re claiming to be setting new standards 💀

[@oscaroska7613]

It is extremely caring to specific people and we all hate this shit to be forced on us

[@ReforgeGaming]

what is being forced on us?

[@tomsawyer8218]

@@ReforgeGaming For starters, I dont think we need to know the individual characters "pronouns". What game even does that? Why is it even necessary? Nevermind the hideous design of the characters themselves. Its like Bloodborn and care bears got together and aborted this. Also $40 for a game genre that is typically free to play otherwise? And that isnt as good as the established ones in the genre? Theres no good gimmick or mechanic to set it apart. Nothing. The whole thing is atrocious and the fact Sony didnt see this coming a mile away is incredible.

[@TheFos88]

​@@ReforgeGamingare you serious, bro?

[@TybJim]

@11:24 I've seen numerous references citing the developers, Firewalk Studios, employed over 150 people...when Concord was their first and only game... Great video games don't need 'inclusivity managers' or 'sensitivity readers'. They need artists, designers, programmers, good writers, and leadership.

[@edgarb.6187]

I swear to goodness this release will become a sociology study in the future about the disconnect between gaming culture as a whole and the industry.

[@thomasiibik8319]

This is great to hear, hopefully our actions start bringing back REAL games

[@irbisae4964]

Dont you dare comparing this s... to the GOAT FPS game called Quake. Quake 2 from 1997 has a better gameplay than concord in every single imaginable way

[@montymole3814]

" More pronouns than players "

[@ReforgeGaming]

yikes

[@T1776-w1y]

No one wants woke

[@UnintendedConsequences]

Pronouns- ‘Was / Were’

[@mqlmohale5830]

​@@ReforgeGamingdon't play along to this nonsense also. Pronouns do nothing to a game, it just speaks to people's bigotry. Cause starfield has them and it still got millions of players.

[@Werytex42]

Just a scientific fact😂

[@BrianHewlette]

Just a hypothetical question if u could decide a direction of a game what direction would u take this and if u went down the direction concord went down how would u try to innovate the game to make it stand out?

[@ReforgeGaming]

early access 2 years ago, and iterate from there

[@BrianHewlette]

​@@ReforgeGamingok after seeing ur video wouldn't it be better when a trend goes on if company's put out early access to get info if that's what people want or if what people want changes. Would it possibly stop trend chasing or make it not so common?

[@superspyro8940]

@@BrianHewlettewell I mean people just need to get common sense, trend chasing doesn’t work for video games, when it takes years to develop something. It works for like KZbin videos where something can be produced in a few hours for views but not games that take millions of dollars and years of development.

[@khalidamajoud4114]

A product that is too late to the market; was poorly introduced; has uninspired -well, ugly- characters... Being boring and generic and ugly, while being priced at $40 in a very competitive market is a recipe for disaster.

[@NicoNeko107]

That’s what I said about some of the comments surrounding the tags they used!! I commented that the steam post saying “Concord removed the LGBTQ+ tag. It’s a step in the right direction” and how a bunch of hack journalists were trying to use that as a selling point. The post felt weird to me. It read like “Hey fellow kids, the concord devs took the pride tags out of the steam page. That means they removed ALL the woke virtue signal, pandering, BS from the game. Let’s all go buy it today!” Made me shudder.

[@superspyro8940]

It’s a multitude of reasons, TLDR: Ugly characters, woke propaganda from the designers, a 40$ pricetag with F2P competition, mediocre gunplay, 3 modes at launch, poor marketing, and in general trying to appeal to an audience that doesn’t exist. Thing is normal people don’t want this trash and even the woke people would complain about like stereotypes and forcing things or something, nobody wins everybody loses.

[@Dave_Langer]

It should have been free to play

[@ReforgeGaming]

agreed

[@Kexlar]

Its Shutting down, and refunded all Digital games.

[@sailuna9195]

I didn't even know about this game, found out when my husband told me he wasn't interested in it, so I googled it, spelled the name wrong, and nothing poppedout, finally got it right and I couldn't agree with you more, this game would have been good 10 or 8 years ago.

[@davidfarias184]

Why didn’t anyone from developers friends and family tell them: hey dad! This game blows my friends and I rather play overwatch!

[@ReforgeGaming]

the game was fun, just not relevant enough

[@Eautorickshaw62635]

Yea

[@JaZter90]

doesnt matter how much gameplay i see i fail to see the STANDOUT FEATURE" of the game and the one system they have is convoluted AF and forces you to char swap to engage with it

[@ReforgeGaming]

yup, nothing new or unique at all in Concord gameplay

[@phaedrussocrates7636]

For example I wish Bungie would get assigned to remake KOTOR

[@spiceking9701]

The game released in a market that is already over saturated with hero shooters, and on top of that where as most of its competition is free, concord has a $40 price tag. No matter how good the gameplay may be, people simply dont care

[@ReforgeGaming]

yup, other arena shooters are gonna face similar challenges

[@tomsawyer8218]

"Report: ‘Concord’ Developer Demanded Co-Workers Refer To Her As “Professor,” Pushed “Extreme Politics,” And Demanded Her Unvaccinated Colleagues Be Fired"

[@TheFos88]

Yeah I saw that article. Absolutely insane.

[@triggertimetv1775]

Unfortunately she'll still have a job. The closest white male will lose their job instead. Its all too predictable.

[@bubbaj9328]

One thing I never understood about this game was the insistence on constant story beat updates....It's almost as if they were out of touch with even the group of people they were trying to appeal to. Character story arcs in descriptions is one thing, but consistent cinematic storylines??? Imagine adding that to CS:GO, Valorant, and Overwatch. I feel like the players would just skip past that kind of thing.

[@ReforgeGaming]

yeah the concord story doesn't seem to matter

[@brimestoneopp]

This guy tries so hard to not mention the elephant in the room which is a major reason this game failed. Woke game = Failed game

[@ReforgeGaming]

Deadlock and Baldur’s Gate 3 have the same things and yet, a good game overrides those things. Move along.

[@TheDragonLegacy]

People saying "it's not because it's woke" is cope. Alot of people, myself included, refuse to be tolerant anymore to the pronoun bs. "Everyone has pronouns!" Yes and before the push to acknowledge that people had the common sense/courtesy to just use them. I'm not calling a single person directly in front of me in the 3rd person as a they/them. I'm done with it and all games going forward (gunna call it now with dragon age) won't get my money. And if it is a decent enough game I'll start pirating them, since I'm not the target audience anymore and the "modern audience" can fund it.

[@rfitzpatrick723]

Ok. Should have always voted with your wallet anyways.

[@HTTV61]

Lmao go outside bruh

[@creature_comfort_delta]

I'm willing to bet you love spending copious time on the internet; with such strong, unpopular opinions, it's gotta be one of the last places anyone will even pretend to find you agreeable anymore.

[@sangwoo9395]

I definitely fw your target audience comment. The gaming industry are starting to pay too much attention to what audience they want to appeal to and in doing that, fail to make a genuinely good game. They're ignoring actual people who enjoy gaming just so that they can satisfy the woke people who will at most just give them a stamp of approval and be on their marry way.

[@thingies4U]

But where and how did Sony advertise? I never HEARD of the game until it flopping hit the news cycle.

[@lidge1994]

I don't think the Live Service part of the video game market will survive unless it becomes routine to have at least a year of early access. Because this is a new "genre" that requires it. Baldur's Gate 3 isn't even like that and it benefited massively from early access, how can any new Live Service survive based on ideas thought up 3-5 years ago at the start of the project?

[@UnintendedConsequences]

Bud Light: “You will drink this swill, and Like it. Here’s a dude in a skirt,” The Marketplace - “AwwHellNaw.” Sony - “Hold my controller.”

[@LeeoGoneWild]

Why did you not mention anything about the huge DEI problem or the defensive developers? I don’t know… this video ignored very huge issues

[@ReforgeGaming]

because that isnt why it failed

[@LeeoGoneWild]

@@ReforgeGaming LOL!!! 😂😂😂 so you’re naive, got it.

[@pixeljauntvr7774]

​@@LeeoGoneWild It's obviously not why it failed when other "woke" games like Overwatch and Deadlock are a success. You anti woke folk cheapen every conversation you take part in. Nothing is ever learned.

[@lidge1994]

3 things: 1. I think arena shooters can still live, but not as arena shooters..they need Dark Souls style Melee! 2. Who among us would want to play with 4 or 5 friends in an arena instead of those friends and 95 other people on a huge map? It's just an evolution 3. Planetside 2 needs a reemergence and possibly a sequel! It's a massively multiplayer persistent world FPS because the map doesn't reload, someone's always there and it's been going (not so well, but still alive) for 12 fucking years! Imagine instead of 99, you had 500 people to kill and take over their territory! How about 1000? Cus there's up to 2000 on a single server with 3 warring factions. We need PlanetSide 2 to get popular again!

[@Vajrubaj]

Concord TOTAL MELTDOWN As Play Station Gamers REFUNDED And Game SHUTS DOWN Online Play.

[@ReforgeGaming]

yup

[@chinse02]

The 'Early Access' idea can work if and ONLY IF the devs are accepting of player criticism/feedback. From what little i have seen of the concorde devs interactions with gamers in general, that does not seem to be the case in this scenario.

[@478Johnnyboy]

As a long time gamer but mostly Sony player. I wish they would take multiplayer games seriously and actually made good ones. Concord looked to be DoA before release and now it’s gonna be gone in less than 2 months. Thats the fastest shut down time I’ve seen (not counting the day before because that was a scam not a game). Sony has a major multiplayer issue….they don’t care to make any hardly. They’ve really not cared to make many since the PS3 era. Ever since PS4 to now they only want to make single player games which have been great but frankly most people can wait a month or years later to get a $60-70 single player game that may have little replay value. I miss when PS had Killzone as one of its exclusive FPS games. Now they make Horizon but they could license it out to another dev team. The PS needs something to play as a exclusive mp game. We can’t keep getting endless single player games….all while they want you to pay for PS+ to play online….when online for Sony is mostly 3rd party games. Either drop that requirement from PS+ or make actually mp games worth playing and aren’t riddled with micro-transactions.

[@kaylemain2006]

aaand it's gone.

[@ReforgeGaming]

yup

[@planexshifter]

The only thing that made the game stand out was the terrible character design.

[@DaniDeFig]

That's... huh. Yeah I think you're right. The designs are *SO* uninteresting that it *sticks out*. Like, *noticeably* when compared to other games. Huh.

[@DeetheGreat84]

Sony tried to create a live service PVP w/ a story that they could spin into a TV show/ Movie/Toys etc.... They’re trying to be their own version of Disney through Video games.

[@Official_Golden]

It’s basically a $40 Overwatch with clunkier mechanics and terrible character design

[@SendPie42069]

Is that huge health bar really a good decision

[@vasilios_2469]

Such a hyper competitive space… why would anyone play an overwatch clone when they can play the real thing?

[@ReforgeGaming]

and for $40

[@eddie5525]

Somehow, I doubt 25,000 actual individuals bought this game.

[@ReforgeGaming]

lol

[@LadyBits2023]

not only did they not sell that many copies they quite literally just released a tweet explaining that they will be shutting the game down on 6 September. The game will be totally shutting down and they are going to be reassessing what they're going to do going forward.

[@marcusclark1339]

it is insane how tone deaf Sony was to blindly hype this and put it into a show with no proven track record of success everything about it tells u it would fail yet these higher ups are so up their own A! they can't seem to realize it what's next is layoffs, studio shuttering and not learning anything while marvel rivals/deadlock/fragpunk continues with no worries whatsoever

[@Ashen_Hollow]

I will be honest, apart from your coverage, I didn’t hear ANYTHING regarding this game from my friend circles of twitter…which just feels weird to me.

[@ReforgeGaming]

everyone shrugged it off

[@luvair6765]

Back in the 2000s I would play games that were not anywhere near as good as this game and I was happy. The world is so toxic now. Its bandwagon hate, following the herd.

[@kevinhardy8997]

Where is Titanfall 3?

[@LAFORGUS]

Copying a trending game is not bad if you released within the same year of this. So, if Concord was out in 2017, it would have been well received, because the Hero Shooter Genre had he player's attention by then. But waiting 8 years to make your game, and instead of stopping continue forward knowing the market was already saturated and the players sick tired of it, was nothing more than a foolish endeavor. It seems as if SONY and his CEOs never had meetings to THINK and make Follow Up about the status of the gaming community and the genres they were working on year by year. Even when new games in the Genre were being released. 80% of Concord Failure was due to this alone.

[@Arzeefy]

If you learn, STUDY DEADLOCK from VALVE, GAME LEAKED BY TF2 PLAYTESTER

[@haruruben]

I don’t think they have a heist mode in the game, that would have been a differentiation. Right now as far as I can tell it’s not doing anything new🤷🏻 I’m bored with hero shooters

[@Hauerization]

I guess gamers got tired of giving money to a studio that calls them "talentless freaks".

[@nahuelpablo6031]

To me the artstyle and pronouns were what made me ignore this game althogether, I would have payed $40 for a game like this if that means it would be monetized reasonably. Imagine if Hololive released a hero shooter, i d preorder that shit, and i don t even like hero shooters very much.

[@MultiplexityGaming]

okay , IDK if the rumors are true but the game is already shutting down and refunds are being handed out apparently. not even a month post launch

[@alexandersmith6869]

I really feel as though the outdated design is what killed it the very thing that was supposed to be what made it popular is what made it fail

[@jokerquinnhahaiwest2475]

Maybe Sony will see how and why this game flopped and maybe kickstart the process of something truly innovative in the live service realm. That is if they see live service as fruitful still.

[@ReforgeGaming]

early access is the key

[@UnfilteredJustice]

How could the game sell 25K copies, yet not ever have more than 700 concurrent players?

[@rjproduction486]

The 24300 copies was sold on ps 5

[@PyrusnVentus]

I genuinely think there was a chance for this to not totally flop and its actually really obvious. You want to make a overwatch clone? Then do the one thing they couldn’t, which is a PvE campaign. Instead of focussing on cinematics no one cares about, make a campaign to flesh out the story. If the story was good enough you could maybe justify the price tag and/or the fucking hideous character designs. And tbh I think a pve campaign is literally the only possible path forward.

[@kevingeorge9835]

Why is Deadlock succeeding where Concord failed? Is it simply that people like Valve? Free?

[@PaulsGamingLive]

A hero shooter that people don't care about the hero is like playing football without the ball, makes the game meaningless

[@TheMeanArena]

Concords pronouns = Me / Too

[@EliteBlackSash]

When I think of Playstations brand, I think top tier single player games. Who is the audience for a game like Concord with no campaign? Apparently… nobody. Destiny was a good IP and Talent acquisition for multiplayer, they should have focused on producing a proper fully fleshed out sequel to that. All these other live service multiplayer clone games are throwing shxt at the wall and seeing what sticks when you already have a proven winner that was poorly managed (in the understatement of the decade) Obviously some of the ppl within Bungie had an interest in a 3rd person shooter, could have Used some of their ideas and experience to brainstorm on updating games people actually want in the vein of something like SOCOM and Syphon Filter.

[@mbvx7]

this game flopped because its woke trash with terrible game play. its a cartoon shooter that brought NOTHING to the table. the DEI characters are trash. The woke stance of the game means that NO one wants to play it. I hope every dev on this game gets laid off..

[@ReforgeGaming]

yeah, the gameplay wasnt the problem, it very good, it is basically 5 years too late

[@figureviews]

The main reason is because the characters are purposely ugly

[@stewarde17]

It might had better legs had it been free to play but any game that going charge out the gate it better have a pve model or huge nostalgic hook

[@matthewharrington420]

i dont think early access is the answer here. we've had fantastic games without early access for 30 years. we've also had super stinkers over the same amount of time. just make a good game and people will come. its just that simple.

[@lanceenchainte4890]

The whole approach that Sony has taken for their live service push so far has been seemingly all shooters of different varieties. While shooters have their place and might be the lowest fruit to grab in live service, most of those mods are overly saturated with high movement arcade shooter types. We have a tuck-fon of these already. Maybe it’s my nostalgia talking, but what happened to the mil-sim that requires less individual Uber movement skills and more reliance on team tactics with short and long term objectives? But that’s still another shooter, but at least it’s a genre that isn’t as touched much. Or how about…ya know, not a shooter? Makes me miss the PS3 days where the online service was full of a ton of different game types that had lots of popularity because many were quirky and unique. Generic shooter = seemingly safe investment, but in an over-saturated market. Something unique that isn’t a shooter - smaller saturation for a reason, more niche…but a hit here and you could own the space by yourself. Give me another Fat Princess. Give me another M.A.G. Give me something other than what I can find elsewhere in multiple places that I don’t go to anyways, because the that style of game has gotten stale and boring because it’s just he same basic formula over and over again.

[@ReforgeGaming]

i like live service future is in PVE and not PVP tbh

[@crabbypatty10fefrefe]

Dead on. The characters killed this game. They are not awesome. They will never be awesome. People want awesome.

[@pcrizz]

No one asked for? lol what?? One of the current Primary Trends in gaming is built around the hero shooter as a basis point and within the first person category of course it is at the top, granted with the potential for the extraction shooter to take first, if it hasn't already.

[@DrewSpacely]

Wouldn’t have flopped if it was just free…. Considering that’s the industry standard lmfao I’m glad Sony has decided to do the right thing by refunding players and taking the game offline. Now never make this kind of mistake again. Gamers don’t want an excess of live service games… we also don’t want woke garbage. This game was both. They should probably let all these developers go, it’s bad for Sonys brand.

[@docilesoap2684]

They straight away copied character moves from overwatch…..that guardian of galaxy drax wannbie character has Same animation of Cassidy. From overwatch…..creativity has nothing to do with this game

[@sevenfacedsin]

“This game is made for the modern audience.” *no one shows up* surprised Pikachu face “SHUT IT DOWN”

[@BeautyBeastRC]

game doesn't look that bad to me tbh lol.

[@orclord5719]

It offers nothing. Nothing new, nothing pretty, nothing that stands out.

[@xcloudgamer1539]

Man if this was xbox the world industy would be shittin all over them 😅

[@MYB2424]

Why should I care about this game when there are a million better f2p games

[@Zero_Steel]

IMO why Concord Failed 1. DEI (say what you will Lono, I respect ya but that is what the public agrees on, Dont shoot the messenger) 2. Very Generic and Already done before formula 3. Cost 40 4. There is many shooters in the market however Arena Shooters is just isnt the trend now 5. Devs are Attacking gamers when they share their own opinion why its so uninteresting 6. Came out at a wrong time where MP games are being judged too hard

[@ReforgeGaming]

good gameplay and a popular game would have made folks ignore the pronouns

[@ayrtonfracaro1718]

@@ReforgeGaming To a certain extent, maybe, but it was too much "in your face" this time around, it would still have damaged it.

[@OGSavage720]

Ponys got the 2 biggest flops in history...conbored and foamstars. Even redfall better than these trash games 😂

[@EddieFonzarelli]

Concord flopped harder than LeBron James

[@DoomyRei]

If its not cod or fornite I don't care lol there my multiplayer games on ps5

[@T1776-w1y]

Naah we wont want wokeness in games. Jus games..

[@ReforgeGaming]

pronouns werent the problem

[@evosquest1]

@@ReforgeGaming Yes they were along with DIE and the Devs and the MSM who tried to push the fact that anyone who didn't play the game was a "bigot" Then we have the fact that the game was MADE for "The MODERN AUDIENCE" who ALL have Pronouns in the bio and try to make that a thing everywhere. They're the ones who screeched about HL last Year, Wukong this year and have time and again proven they DON'T BUY games. This failed BECAUSE of them NOT US when THEY chose NOT to BUY this.

[@17craigers]

It’s like they took the “Don’t be sad, this is just how it works out sometimes” guy from BF2042 and made him into a diverse cast of characters. The tone and vibe does not fit the setting for a shooter. It’s like a shooter for adult fans of Bluey

[@calvinfamily3460]

IGN paid propaganda, they gave this a 7/10......

[@marcosramos5117]

If they’re going to make a hero/ arena shooter they would really need to come out with something outstanding and special. Also yes there’s the whole DEI agendas that everyone gripes about and I can see their points-my opinion is that is that the Devs only limit their artistic reach by insisting that they adhere to certain agendas. I don’t care if it’s in there-there are other games and studios that have thrown them in there however their focus was on what’s important-making a fun game that people really want to play.

[@Vulcanfaux]

I think the whole idea of wanting to make a game that lasts 10+ years is the problem. They end up focusing more on how to retain players through fomo or addictive practices instead of just making it good overall. There are plenty of older games that have lasted 10+ years just because people love them that much. Even though most of them only ever got a few updates or stopped updating after 2 years tops. Were the online for wiiU and 3ds still up people would have still been playing splatoon 1 and monster hunter 4 ultimate online. Atleast games like monster hunter is good enough that people still love to play it solo or locally. ( I know that certain things do exist to let you play online anyways,) Likewise any game that used gamespy for their online would also still be played if gamespy was still around. Because again, many of those games were just really good and didnt need a battlepass or a john wick skin to get you to play it. Its already been said plenty of times before, but the way live service games work, it would be hard to convince a person to devote their time to yet another one when people who already play one is likely already putting all their free time to it. At this point with how saturated the market is with live services, a new one is gunna have a super hard time getting a footing. On a side note, when capcom was done with world and rise was announced, i remember alot of people getting mad and saying they should keep updating world and make it a full on live service. It makes me laugh cuz they always change certain base mechanics with each game that makes each one feel different and unique, it also lets them do things where if one mh has a thing that maybe you didnt like, such as the clutch claw, thats alright cuz the next mh will have its own stuff so you dont have to deal with it. And if you do love clutch claw but didnt like wire bugs, guess what world still exists and the rise changes never override what world was. In a live service you dont have that option, dont like that they add or remove a certain mechanic? Too bad thats the games identity now until they change it again, cant go back to base fortnite no matter how much you want to.

[@TheForever206]

The game was just full on lame.

[@mr.sarcastic8833]

woke shit clearly didn't help

[@ReforgeGaming]

sure, but that isnt why it flopped, see BG3 and Deadlock

[@mr.sarcastic8833]

@@ReforgeGaming I didn't say that. (it is just another point against the game) this was not an ordinary flop, this was a complete market rejection even if the games is 6/10, these numbers are way too low.

[@creature_comfort_delta]

Maybe, but as @ReforgeGaming suggests, you can really only make that statement in hindsight. The most popular, award-winning game in years was woke AF

[@mr.sarcastic8833]

@@creature_comfort_delta I don't think you understand what woke is. woke is not about representation BUT the exclusion of certain demographic. "white straight dudes" if you will. Concord was an LGBTQP+ centric people either: 1. they failed to even attract that demo 2. that demo is this small

[@creature_comfort_delta]

@@mr.sarcastic8833 unfortunately, you being patently wrong isn't going to encourage me to engage with you. However, I wish you and your family health and happiness.

[@iLLESTMADE]

The game and character design is so ugly.

[@corwinroberts4756]

This game isn't an adventure game mix with racing and monster hunter rpg, and all that mil spent,thats where this game went wrong in my view.

[@ReforgeGaming]

PVE extraction with loot would have been a blast

[@RolandMIA71]

$40 price point was the last nail in the coffin

[@metpach]

Its dead now.

[@Dknightxs]

Fortnite was a dud… they copied pubg

[@ReforgeGaming]

Pubg wasn’t an original idea either.