Microsoft Killed Xbox

The Xbox has grappled with challenges for years. Despite its successes, the failures have largely cast a shadow over them. Given the current state of the Xbox and the recent developments, I am more convinced than ever that the Xbox was always at a disadvantage. Microsoft was inevitably going to be its downfall. The era of Microsoft Gaming has arrived. Soon, the Xbox might merely be a cherished memory.
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[@bretwilliams249]

I said it back when they bought Zenimax and repeated it when they bought ABK, these aren't power moves, they're desperation moves.

[@8bitpro85]

The fact that Sarah Bond was being interviewed and Not Phil Spencer is very telling. Maybe he is on the way out sooner than later

[@greedyyawgoo5635]

Or maybe, it's true what they are saying, it's not Xbox anymore, It's Microsoft Gaming Only.

[@Calm_Chaos]

You do know that she's was his replacment when he moved up on the ladder.

[@nategreatgames78]

Whoever’s idea it was to buy Activision blizzard king was the one who jammed up Xbox, because that plan colossally backfired , it probably seemed like a good idea and good sell when they took it to the board of Microsoft, but they were banking on Gamepass blowing up behind it and they weren’t banking on a long drawn out acquisition with Sony fighting them on call of duty and the ftc fighting them over being anti competitive and they were forced to play ball which cut them off from what they thought was going to be a ton of exclusive revenue. Now that they are like 70 billion in Microsoft is all over that division to make sure it’s now going to be a massive red mark on them

[@christopherlewis6915]

Xbox killed Xbox. Long before Satiya ever got involved it was Phil Spencer who just couldn't figure out how to manage his studios, dissapointing release after dissapointing release, broken promise after broken promise. Adding additional studios was always going to end badly for them because Phil is simply bad at his job

[@joejoe2658]

no vr, no gyro, no adaptive triggers, no haptics. TWO machines every dev hates. fk xbox.

[@oo--7714]

@@joejoe2658 Vr is a meme. You already know Sony practically quit that

[@Pimptastical]

I don't think Microsoft was ever in the gaming industry for the love of gaming and the craft. I think they just saw another opportunity for them to hopefully make as much money as then can.

[@lutherheggs451]

They clearly stated out loud that they were looking to put Sony out of the gaming business. They've never been in it for the "love " of gaming that isn't how reality works. They saw how much Nintendo and Sony were making and thought they could totally take over gaming like they did with PC OS and have failed every day since People seem to have this delusion that Xbox is so profitable for MS. Xbox has never made MS a penny while costing them billions. MS shareholders have wanted Xbox gone since the defective product 54% failure rate 360 and the billions it cost the to fix it

[@jaythomas468]

@@lutherheggs451 No BS. If it weren’t for extremely lax tax codes for mega-corporations that have probably allowed them to “write off” most of the losses associated with Xbox and if it had ANYONE other than Microsoft overseeing and subsidizing the brand, the Xbox would’ve probably been axed YEARS AGO.

[@ZoomGears]

They definitely are not in it for the love of gaming. I would say that no company really is. They all just have different visions and strategies on how to make money. Sometimes a company's strategy has some overlap with what gamers want. Microsoft just appears to be the most blatant so other companies like Nintendo and Sony look like angels in comparison.

[@jaythomas468]

@@ZoomGears Well said. I’m not under any illusions that Nintendo or Sony truly care about me or anyone else beyond WHATEVER VALUE they believe they can extract from our wallets, but at least I’m getting games I want from them so it’s still a “mutually beneficial relationship.” The hardcore Xbox fans that are LEFT seem to be motivated more by “parasocial relationships” with the execs and irrational hatred for the PlayStation brand than ANYTHING ELSE. They’re SUPER WEIRD.

[@SourRobo8364]

They never should have bought Activision. I foolishly thought it would be cool. How naive I was.

[@aaronhalsey9717]

I also don't think it helps that Phil seemed to push heavy for GP even when his own staff didn't see profitability. Where would they be right now if they had stopped at Zenimax and invested all that acquisition money into the studios and third party deals.

[@toastyburger]

Investing $70 billion in their existing studios would have landed them in the same place, scrambling to recoup the investment.

[@Chicken-Noir]

😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@aaronhalsey9717]

@@toastyburger I disagree. Owning that much property makes the transition to publisher way too easy for MS to not consider. Imagine using not even a quarter of that money to get GTA VI on GP. You might not move consoles but the service would Definitely see a boost.

[@jaythomas468]

OMG, you’re the first person I’ve heard actually say the same thing I did about WHY it’s a fool’s errand to EXPECT creative output from Microsoft. Their bread-and-butter has been “status quo” productivity/enterprise software that’s not meant to be anything OTHER THAN “functional.”

[@ReforgeGaming]

Thank you!

[@steveschweitzer4181]

When Bungie left Microsoft it was the wake up call people missed. They left because MS killed their creativity (hmmmm)

[@krispybowgod9656]

Bungie has been trash for a long time whether it’s with activision or sony. Stop blaming other people for that crappy studios track record

[@steveschweitzer4181]

Bungie was at the top when they left Microsoft… Halo 3, Reach and ODST… any good halo games since they left?

[@gavincurtis]

Calling it the Ex-Box.

[@BklynBreedGC]

We are in the final stages of Xbox.

[@ReforgeGaming]

agreed yes

[@brettdavidson3866]

Don't know about that but they need a plan which they don't seem to have

[@beeeazy9818]

They had a good run

[@denniskremer4036]

Wrong

[@BklynBreedGC]

@@denniskremer4036 Let me rephrase.. we are in the final stages of what we remember of Xbox. As they already advertised. It’s Microsoft Gaming.

[@Sinncere06]

I know I give Xbox hell. That’s but that’s because I’m old enough to remember where they came from. The OG Xbox and 360 were apart of my favorite era in gaming. What I call: The Silver Age. Dreamcast, PS2, PS3, OG Xbox, 360, GameCube and Wii. The Golden Age being The NES, SNES, N64, Sega Master System, Genesis, PS1. Being around so long I’ve seen em all come and go. So I was able to see the writing on the wall with clear glasses. It still brings little joy to be right. The gamer in me pains for diehard Xbox gamers.

[@don2nd650]

I think this is when I stop investing in Xbox in terms of buying console stuff. On the PC side it’s a different story

[@Sinncere06]

@@don2nd650 yea I also stopped after the 360. I just haven’t seen a reason to buy an Xbox since then. I’ve played some of their games by other means since then but I haven’t personally owned one.

[@joejoe2658]

adorably no vr, no gyro, no adaptive triggers, no haptics. TWO machines every dev hates. fk xbox.

[@XboxNL30180]

@@don2nd650 I think I will also soon stop playing on the Xbox buy xbox hardware and games. I have been gaming on the Xbox OG Xbox since 2003, kotor was the reason I bought an Xbox in 2003, before that I was a Sega gamer, Sega fanboy.

[@evanv7931]

Yeah, I've been around for them all too... my older brother had a nes, snes, sega genesis, and sega cd.. the first system i personally owned was sega saturn... I've always been a Playstation person and never played Xbox, but this sucks... around now, it seems like aaa gaming is losing traction in general with cheap mobile games taking a constant small stream of income... being a ps person, Konami comes to mind... taking $ away from aaa games in exchange for micro transactions and pachinko machines...

[@WingsOfDomesticViolence]

If you could access and play your steam library on Xbox it would serve as a console/Budget gaming PC of sorts thats plug n play off the shelf. I don't see many scenarios in which Xbox survives into the future.

[@mikeondamic2019]

Although I'm a "Pony", I've owned every generation of Xbox. I'm a gamer first, and what's going on with Xbox def sucks.

[@ReforgeGaming]

yup

[@thedon7941]

I am in the same boat bro sad Xbox makes Sony do better

[@maxreis9534]

I have been called a "salty pony" so many times when I told xbox stans that xbox is leading in a wrong direction. I esplicitly told them that they just accept every BS from Xbox and need to stop this. That they need to demand more from this giant company....I didnt want to be so right about this.

[@joejoe2658]

adorably no vr, no gyro, no adaptive triggers, no haptics. TWO machines every dev hates. fk xbox.

[@jaythomas468]

Same here (well, except for the current Series consoles because I bought the Xbox One X and played most of what it had to offer within 16 months and it’s been collecting dust SINCE). I get SO FRUSTRATED when I tell people that Xbox needs a massive shake-up in its culture and management, only to be called a “salty pony” because I’m just like, “DUDE, I went and bought the FIRST XBOX with my FIRST PAYCHECK from my FIRST JOB EVER when minimum wage was like $4.75 an HOUR. You’re NOT going to sit there and TELL ME that I’ve NEVER LIKED Xbox and just want to see them fail” (well, more accurately, if they are going to CONTINUOUSLY DECLINE like this, I’d rather they just “take a bow” than become SOMETHING I DESPISE).

[@saesang352]

Aaron Greenberg literally posted Hellblade 2 jpgs on twitter, and told Xbox fanboys to advertise it. This is a disaster

[@craigharris41]

WTF

[@therealjaystone2344]

There aren't any much left of the fans anyways

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

Crapgamerreviews would advertise it

[@bellissimo4520]

The writing is on the wall, Xbox as we know it is on its way out. Which is not ideal... being a PS gamer myself, it wasn't lost on me how the Xbox competition forced Sony to improve its services and offerings ever since the 360. A lot of what we take for granted now on PSN might not be there if Xbox had never existed. Just look at Nintendo for an example of a company that virtually has no competitor - great games, but everything else is basically stuck in the stone-age of the internet. PS+ is now an amazing value, especially since Sony revamped it under the impression of the Gamepass hype - another example of something that might not exist, or be much less attractive, if the competition hadn't been there. Sony has a reputation for getting complacent when there's no one to kick their lazy ass, so it may not be a good thing overall if Microsoft turns Xbox into a pure 3rd party publisher. Maybe, as the Helldivers circus showed, it's the gamers that will have to keep Sony accountable and on their toes.

[@mark-o-man6603]

Nah, competiton is not always good. MS bought BGS > Sony panicked and bought Bungie, which was a colossal mistake. Just think about the irony: Bungie the company that sucks at live service was the one telling ND that their Faction live service sucked and Sony believed them.

[@joejoe2658]

adorably no vr, no gyro, no adaptive triggers, no haptics. TWO machines every dev hates. fk xbox.

[@toastyburger]

It's because of Xbox we have to pay for multiplayer and have "free" games forced on us every month.

[@blackrahk2037]

​@@toastyburgerI most people would still pay for Playstation plus for the 'free' games even if the online was free. I know I would.

[@khalidamajoud4114]

What reputation? Were they - Sony- complacent during the PS and PS2 and PS4 generation, when they were dominating? Xbox bowing out is a good thing: We will end up with two different propositions between Sony and Nintendo...Different enough, complimentary enough, with enough competition for one's time and money. A third wheel is not needed.

[@alex_gaming9585]

Xbox is 2021: When everyone plays we all win Xbox in 2024: When Xbox dies we all win. Great video btw!

[@Therizinosaurus]

Xbox in 2005 : Fuk gamers, lets charge them money to play online

[@pjisleta1994]

its xbox in 2023: when everyone plays, we win.... but we lost thanks to their closure and gamepass debacle.... Damn

[@Therizinosaurus]

@@pjisleta1994 Xbox in 2020s : If Everyone plays we win Also Xbox in 2020s : *Buys studios and make their IPs exclusive, scrapping PS4 version of Beshitda games

[@pjisleta1994]

@@Therizinosaurus ps4s hahahahahaha

[@shreksnow1918]

I agree wholeheartedly with Jimmy Neutron on this. Xbox is dead.

[@ReforgeGaming]

lol

[@InJeffable]

Where Microsoft has really messed up beyond the soulless layoffs and studio closures is that Xbox has no distinct identity anymore. It's identity that aligns people with a gaming platform and ultimately drives hardware, game, and subscription sales. And identity comes from artistic vision, not profit projections. It's why Destiny 2 wannabe Halo Infinite floundered while Hi-Fi RUSH soared. It's also how Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo: Reach, and the original Gears of War trilogy built Xbox into the powerhouse it was in the Xbox 360 era. Not even the Red Ring of Death could take down Xbox during that period. THAT'S how much identity matters.

[@Sorrior]

Honestly i'd say PS lacks identity myself. Imo sony and ms have both gone bland corporate. No fun no real just silly stuff..not like there was and no core identity..just bland appeal to everyone deskgns

[@toastyburger]

I identify Xbox with min-fridges, toasters, and Doritos.

[@jaythomas468]

@@toastyburger I mean Xbox at its height was kinda always the “dudebro console” and catered heavily to that Spike TV-watching, Red Bull-chugging demographic. Honestly, I feel like NOW they’re trying to be more like Nintendo (but without the charm and creativity) which is why a lot of the games they promote now look like crappy Minecraft derivatives.

[@diegomireles]

The moment M$ spended 69billion in Activision they condemned Xbox to dead sentence.

[@FuzzyMuffin1]

Xbox was nuked harder than Phil Spencer's Fallout 76 base

[@SK_Falchion]

The Boomers at the helm of Microsoft are gonna turn Xbox into a souless, zombiefied super nova'd version of Electronic Arts.

[@shreksnow1918]

It’s been there since the Xbox One

[@repodog6191]

A child that thanks every thing is a boomer fault ! And I do not respond back to more childish BS !

[@ROADKIL80]

There is no Xbox it's Microsoft gaming😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ReforgeGaming]

indeed

[@NoMadKid]

Microsoft wanted to axe Xbox but Phil begged them not to, but I guess the plan is revived since Phil didn’t prove them wrong. The best solution is and a sufficient one is to be a publishing giant.

[@repodog6191]

Microsoft has almost axed xbox more than once !

[@MTO2089]

Absolute disaster of a week for Microsoft, this is as bad as it's been for the brand since the E3 of the XB1 launch.

[@Harrythe1st]

Ah man colego, I had mattel intellivision and still have it, let's go with og consoles 👍

[@madjoe8622]

Coleco

[@hardcore-devil-gamer]

Playstation is the best place to play your games xbox is a dead box

[@ReforgeGaming]

feels that way

[@sweetmcnasty]

Playstation is dying, also. The problem is these publishers don't make games. We're all playing nearly decade old games with few new AAA titles.

[@MAR-jq7co]

​@@sweetmcnastymaybe on the xbox but on playstation, I have never played an old game. Every year, PS releases amazing exclusives. I have gamepass on my pc, I mainly play multiplats. Xbox has the killer exclusices missing which has been the case for a long time.

[@MrInuhanyou123]

Xbox wasn't my first console. I was a genesis kid although I owned Nintendo consoles. I liked Saturn and loved Dreamcast. Then I was a PlayStation person for a long time. Of course I eventually owned an Xbox but even back then I knew I didn't like how MS operated when they tried to force themselves into the industry through buyouts and money peddling. The writing was on the wall back then. 360 was amazing for the first half of the generation. Then they stopped investing in Japanese studios and pretty much every other studio and just coasted on third parties and Kinect. They have never recovered since then

[@theHedgex1]

they just wanted to bring back the xbox has no games joke. it's their favorite.

[@BlueBuffalo207]

Damn. Remember when games were so good, they would sell consoles?

[@dood1234DOOD]

I don’t know what’s gonna happen but I don’t see a Xbox console after next gen.

[@mark-o-man6603]

Microsoft killed Xbox? More like: Spencer put his chips on red, even numbers, 23, 4, 5, 12...and the silver ball landed on "0". He never made sense...killing the middle-man (retail) by pushing digital even more with GP, while being fine paying 30% to Gabe and devaluing exclusivity in the process. Spencer wanted it all and got none. I know, life isn't fair...good guy Phil looses it all, while devil incarnate Bobby Kottick is probably laughing on his yacht parked somewhere near the Bahamas as he was able to sell the shit-hole ABK, that only lasted for that long because he was running it the way HE did, for 70bn dollars.

[@joejoe2658]

adorably no vr, no gyro, no adaptive triggers, no haptics. TWO machines every dev hates. fk xbox.

[@bobbobbins4877]

His strategy would have worked had it not been for the poor quality of the first party output.

[@drexq_477]

It appears that Phil Spencer, Sarah Bond, and other key individuals may not have full autonomy in decision-making processes regarding the Xbox brand. Microsoft, as the parent company, seems to be heavily involved in financial management, growth strategies, and overall decision-making for Xbox. However, this centralized approach appears to be causing challenges and potentially leading to suboptimal outcomes for the brand. It is unfortunate that Xbox, once a beloved brand, particularly during the Xbox 360 era, is facing such difficulties.

[@nolifebr]

One crazy thing that Microsoft almost closed the whole gaming division after the XB1 launch and now the Xbox Series is actually trailing behind One in hardware sales.

[@skooodle4766]

Destiny has never been the same since Lono was “cancelled”

[@janwatkins5523]

Have to say I have fond memories playing gears and fable when I was younger but after going through 2 Xbox 360s that ended up with the red ring of death I've gone Playstation and haven't looked back

[@mrfire6557]

Lets just see how it all plays out yes it looking bad right now but lets not act all hope is lost

[@triple3507]

True, they COULD salvage the situation if they announce exclusive new hood exclusive games, put all the old COD games on game pass + other ABK legacy titles, and update Xbox OS because it’s so slow.

[@HAPPY47738]

Being a fanboy is crazy. Messing up like Xbox is just delusional 😂

[@DustyOrchid057]

Xbox could be so much better if their stupid Enforcement Team, that you can't even contact by the way, needs to be disbanded. Steam doesn't ban users nearly as much as Xbox does and it's a way better platform.

[@ROADKIL80]

I bet a hundred bucks they kill call of duty. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@lutherheggs451]

Yeah no. They're not killing the franchise that makes hundreds of billions of dollars, nor will they be putting in on WelfarePass to make pennies on it

[@independent_angler]

How can you kill a dead horse

[@shecklesmack9563]

I’ve been saying ever since the purchase was announced… paying $69 Billion for ABK would’ve made sense a decade ago. I think they’re overestimating the gravitational pull of CoD, but I mean who exactly is enthusiastic about the 50th Call of Duty in the series?

[@ROADKIL80]

How can you say it's dead when it's the number one selling game every year

[@JavaTheHott]

It's been a bad game for good players for years now. The rigged SBMM matchmaking is so punishing it's near impossible to enjoy the game. You have a few good games in a row and it's all over with. The rest of he night you will be placed in the most brutal sweatfest lobbies you could imagine. Cronus and Xim are out of hand as well and run rampant in those high level lobbies.

[@478Johnnyboy]

I want to say all publishers have to do is let devs make great game, don’t rush them, don’t think about monetization first and fun/gameplay 8th on priority. But they had great studios and managed to still mess things up. Cherry on top of it all is the guys at the top screwing up all get to stay and keep their jobs even after several mistakes.

[@dozilla77]

MS becoming a netflix type publisher is certain. We're also living in a world where Sony is pivoting closer to publishing compared to their yesteryears with PC, especially with how increasingly successful Sony is on STEAM, they'd be silly not to lean further there as well. The even bigger question with MS is what the landscape looks like going forward in the near future. Without Xbox as competition for Sony, do people actually believe Sony is going to spend big first party bucks competing with no one? What's their incentive to spend as much or more now? I can't imagine it's a better world for gamers as a whole. It's undeniable that competition breeds excellence...so without it?. Who could fill Xbox's shoes if they abandon the Xbox console?

[@residentsteve]

It’s funny after all these years I only care about gears from Xbox hope to see it live on, on PlayStation 👍🏻.

[@APlantster]

Phil needs to go. People need to realize that Phil is in it for Phil. He doesn't care about the developers, gamers or community. Why buy studios just to close them? They said they closed them because they weren't able to manage so many studios. WTF! Why buy them?!?!?!?

[@SK_Falchion]

You pointing the finger at the wrong guy. The suits closed the studios not Phil

[@gamesmovienation3516]

Phil cares but it’s seems the suits from Microsoft are pulling the strings now and that’s a tough position because that means alot of what Phil says now is all pr from Microsoft. Right now he’s gonna try to make the brand look strong while Microsoft suits figure out what their gonna do next wich it could take the path of going downhill or actually trying to fix the issues or they may think they know best and make decisions they truly think are best but really are the worst decisions ever.

[@lutherheggs451]

Because they don't care about the studios. People really need to learn how reality and business works. Your job is not required to keep you forever, nor are they obligated to keep dumping money into a black hole. The MS shareholders have wanted Xbox gone since the 360 54% failure rate debacle because Xbox has NEVER made MS money. They wanted the IPs not the studios, with people with brains and common sense kept trying to tell the brain dead Xbot cucks and that this is exactly what would happen when they wanted to buy Zenimax, but the brain dead Xbot cucks just wanted to call people with common sense haters, because they're so desperate to suck off Phildo Sphincter. Even Helen Keller could have seen that it was Microsoft leading into publishing on everything on every platform and ditching Xbox hardware

[@zak1872]

​@@SK_Falchion Phil is the head of Xbox... THE MAN IS LITERALLY A SUIT HIMSELF 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@stephenthompson2505]

​@@zak1872 yes the head of xbox gaming division but it was the suits at Microsoft that pulled this of not Phil...

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

I dare xbox to make TES6,COD and Fallout 5 xbox console exclusive and lose out on ps5 sales

[@tenee8088]

I was not happy when Microsoft brought Bethesda. At that time, I just recently got my PS5, and it had everything I wanted to play. I never felt Xbox cared about the types of games I enjoyed playing, so I never cared about owning an Xbox. Just to play some of my favorite Bethesda games and Hellblade, I did the unthinkable for me and brought an Xbox. I regret it because I was right Xbox doesn't care about the types of games I enjoy playing. My favorite games on Xbox gets abandon. I will only buy new Xbox games, renting on Game Pass maybe, if they are on PlayStation.

[@knoble1985]

Sony & Nintendo need to follow suit & give Microsoft their exclusives too. Microsoft wants to be the new Sega smh

[@megalo_64]

No thanks Mr. Microsoft, I’ll stick with my old pal Nintendo.

[@triggerwarning5025]

Xbox is D E A D

[@jjasper7512]

Maybe Phil and sataya should speak with Sarah Bond who on a Bloomberg interview very recently stated when asked about games on other platforms was still towing the title by title basis....hardly a glowing endorsement for full multi plat....

[@ddp5406]

Hey Lono...u notice that "game enquirer" is gone I was lookin forward to that dunk, but he got off the court

[@ReforgeGaming]

Cowards and liars always do.

[@waltrautengels816]

The whole tragedy started with this unbelievably stupid statement from Don Mattrick at the presentation of the Xbox One. Xbox never recovered from this massive blow!

[@julianneedsblood7091]

This series x is the last gen for me. Then I am switching completely to pc. Also reforming my spending to products that are not microsoft.

[@joelbarraclough6689]

Hi-Fi Rush was the game that got me back into gaming in general when it was actually fun but after Tango Gameworks got killed off I thought I'll be forever heartbroken to see it never to become a franchise

[@korkuc26]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the Xbox one launch. What the hell were they doing? Why wouldn't you want a ps4 over an Xbox one? Phil said it best, they lost the digital library generation. People aren't going to magically leave behind all of the money they spent in the PlayStation store over the years. If Xbox goes away, I put the blame solely on the Xbox one... They had so much momentum coming off of the OG and 360 and completely destroyed the brand. And it sucks to see because Xbox was a big part of my childhood. Playing Halo 1-3 with the boys were some of the best gaming memories ever..

[@TheOttomatic91]

Don’t forget Kinect damaged the 360 brand.

[@korkuc26]

@@TheOttomatic91 It wasnt madatory for the 360 though.

[@MarcoHernandez-nb5dc]

Yeah sure, Rip Xbox 😢

[@wolfsaints]

Hey do think Microsoft would’ve better off doing something with Sega like backing or buying or something like that instead of making Xbox since Sega was already established in the gaming industry and has experience making consoles

[@kcrosbie]

They did, it was called the Dreamcast. It ran on Windows CE. This made game creation for the console much easier than the previous console, the Sega Saturn. I loved the Dreamcast but it couldn't compete against the juggernaut called the PS2. Sega canceled the Dreamcast and left the console making business in 2001, The same year the original Xbox was released.

[@taylorn325]

Xbox had no choice but to evolve because of the huge sales of PlayStation. So it was a case of sink or swim.

[@krispybowgod9656]

I’m genuinely concerned we are heading into a gaming ice age

[@kierandoc1987]

Im Sony guy first but always had both consoles each generation, purchased xbox one xbox one x scorpio edition and xbox series x and never been so disappointed by the xbox brand the last couple of generations. Xbox need better first party titles which they have lacked since the OG and 360 times!

[@glenn3646]

For me the first game I played on the xbox was ghost recon , then I went online it was amazing the first time

[@alvinbates21985]

Sega should drop a Genesis 2 it's gonna blow up the industry 😮

[@gamesmovienation3516]

Honestly with sega still around I don’t know why they haven’t brainstormed a comeback with a new console they use to work so close with Nintendo at this point I wouldn’t see why they couldn’t revive their relationship

[@gzoe4real4ever]

You forgot one other thing that killed the xbox. Its Microsoft and KZbinrs. Convincing many that this is the way through gamepass and no matter the scale of games receiving wait till next year they say.🤔 they helped Microsoft 🔥🔥🔥down💨

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

Hope Microsoft shuts down xbox and just publishes games on pc and PlayStation. Just leave home consoles to PlayStation and handheld to Nintendo.

[@Terrk23726]

Honestly Xbox isn't going anywhere. It's still a multimillion dollar company. Let's be real. They are going to have to hit rock bottom before it's gets better. But once they start pumping out AAA titles(you know games that people actually wanna play that are actually good) they will start to see sales again. Until then though you will see more lay offs and potentially more lesser studios shut down.

[@crash10125]

Microsoft gaming might not be going anywhere, but the xbox console itself has been going on a downward spiral in sales.

[@jconklin789]

Bold of then to suggest their on the same level as the steam deck or ROG.

[@ExelArts]

as an xbox fan i've owned every xbox console but i was against the activision-blizzard buy out i dont want a giant corporation owning everything. all the layoffs now and they plan on making more and raising the price of gamepass that will just make people cancel gamepass its too costly. Forcing players to rent and not own pissed players off. when games went corporate is when gaming went down hill

[@nevar771]

I'm not sure how there is was any confusion over who owns xbox. It's always been the miscrosoft xbox, despite them branding it otherwise (hello from seattle on the box is a hint, no?) In that single point microsoft owns and microsoft directs; xbox as a single entity is/was ALWAYS anathema to anyone who sees it. What microsoft are doing to the brand is as a consumer...well let me put it THIS way. I'm a non shareholding investor in Microsoft, i bought an xbox. Where is my return on investment? Why do i feel 'robbed' of 450 decimal currency units (to untie it from ERMs and just present it as a big number in anyones money). That's a question microsoft is frantically trying to dodge by killing the brand. After all if there is no physical product, with metrics they cannot control, they have no shareholder concerns. The moment they created the...lets call it the 'ex box' ...they created an investment product that had a limited market. Unlike software it's sold to a specific demographic and a limited one at that. That's not the microsoft way, they push products everywhere, not 'just over there'. The horrible thought is did microsoft plan this 20yrs ago when they launched it? Did they have a 20yr plan, was that the reason steve balmer said fix it when the 360 went wrong?

[@qazz6209]

And xb fans thought xb could stop ps 🤣🤣 How'd that work out for you all ?

[@murphdrag2100]

you grew up on Coleco? no way you're that old

[@ReforgeGaming]

Lol yup. I’m 42 and my dad has one.

[@laureyes2743]

Was always a sony PS consumer but it really sux how a buy of billions fooked a good company and put it in the dirt. Whats the worst thing is Sony wis already monopolizing making crazy moves against the consumers because they know there on top with no real competitors after xbox.

[@thewhistler6537]

What am I going to do with all my gamesaves and achievements when they toss us to the curb?

[@incredibleblk8582]

Cooking lately 🔥🔥

[@ReforgeGaming]

thank you

[@ROADKIL80]

Microsoft gaming and Microsoft will kill gaming

[@adrianalijandro688]

I like how no one in the comment section and not even the person who made this video understands why the studios were shut down they just wanna make quick bait titles in call it a day to make those views.

[@alexsaraceno6144]

Elon Musk should buy Sega and bring back a new Sega console. Imagine ? Haha

[@thatbloomer5642]

Ironic. Xbox literally implemented the RRoD to their own company.

[@ImmortalRimas]

After the success of the Nintendo Switch & Steamdeck I wouldn’t be surprised if Xbox eventually followed by PlayStation make their own Home/Handheld Console Hybrids

[@retro_ed746]

True. And good point. But there are already Windows handhelds, ROG, Lenovo etc so how to compete basically against own product....

[@stewarde17]

without the exclusive it would also fail

[@toastyburger]

I doubt PlayStation will go that route anytime soon. But with the decline of VR, they will try something to spur growth.

[@robsdroid6856]

They can't make good games so they will always struggle. I mean it's called gaming for a reason... it's about games...

[@skinsgaming2943]

Xbox getting rid of studios who in the past have created great games just because one game fails is stupid and how tango gameworks brought them a great artistic platformer rhythem game which delivered due to fandom for the game i know sales didn't workout and thats down to game pass if gamepass was games that arent first party day 1 i believe they would make sales and a year or more after release then add those games to the game pass or monthly games like ps does

[@lambrettaking472]

I don't think Xbox or Microsoft are doing themselves any favours but I do think all the negativity around KZbin is not helping either that's my opinion anyway. I have been playing video games since the Atari, Commodore64 and the ZX Spectrum and now in my seventies still play although I only have a Xbox one X

[@GoufinAround_]

Xbox died when they were prepping the Xbox one. People have only now lost hope that it will come back

[@nickaldridge8513]

The original Xbox and then the Xbox 360 were great because the teams were comprised of actual gamers. People who were just as passionate about our favorite past time as we are. Now it is ran by suits who don’t care about anything but money and figures about projections about how they can get more money. It’s sad.

[@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews]

I'm a solid PlayStation owner today, but back when I was 20-21, I bought into the Xbox360 because of Elder Scrolls Oblivion and Fable. But as Elder Scrolls became available on PlayStation, I just found more and more IPs more attractive on PlayStation. I also saw how toxic the Xbox gaming community was and wanted nothing to do with it. Ever since then I've only ever seen how horrible and cancerous Microsoft has been for gaming

[@nickaldridge8513]

@@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviewsThose were all great franchises. They have fallen from grace, again, but the suits making the decisions now at Xbox.

[@OnBrandRP]

At this point Microsoft just needs to cancel the Xbox consoles and allow all "xbox" games onto pc/other consoles. Microsoft just needs to throw in the towel and become a publisher for studios but not EA.

[@lutherheggs451]

That is literally what they've been working towards. Even Helen Keller could see that at this point. The only people who think they ever cared about consoles or video games are the brain dead Xbots who lap up all the MS smoke and mirrors

[@Fossil924]

You have no idea what’s coming put your seatbelt on June 9th

[@boneslideclean1360]

Awesome editing!!!

[@ReforgeGaming]

i agree!!!

[@JrCast84]

Agreed. I love the change in format with all the new edits, clips, screenshots, and blur effects.

[@CalebByRamen]

lonooooo bringing the heat

[@ReforgeGaming]

ty

[@matacurrei5665]

Start playing the old gears of war, and then every game in the franchise, even the shitty judgment. But something happened. Gears of war 4 was crappy and annoying. "Gears" was the last nail in the coffin for me, didn't even bought it, all was a damn service, passes and passes. Xbox became lame. Then couldn't won by IPs, try by money flexing purchases and fail.

[@javierkiman8302]

Halo! When I think of Xbox. I think of so much of many bad games. Halo a shooter that could have done much better. But didn't do so. I like Xbox for a few games that are not on Gamecube but could be at the time. If continued. I only like the original Xbox for dvd usage and music cd usage and Dynasty Warriors 5.

[@cypher2365]

After the recent events of both showcases. You were wrong about Sony & you were definitely wrong about Microsoft..

[@ReforgeGaming]

How so?

[@pzb1017]

Microsoft has shown how greedy they have been. I know that this is a tinfoil hat theory. But the purchasing of companies like Rare, Bethesda, and the company for Hi-Fi Rush. Doing NOTHING/Shutting down the company- Is a toxic slime type of behavior. They are deliberately attempting to buy out those studios and then let them rot. You see this pattern day in and day out. Plus the Xbox showcase was really mid. It reminded me of a lot of bad Nintendo direct games. Plus, on top of these “newer” games, a great chunk of them are going to go to PC & shortly after they go straight to PlayStation… Why would I get a console that doesn’t perform well when I can get a stronger (or even) more versatile console. Because the Xbox consoles themselves do NOT sell well, PERIOD.

[@oo--7714]

@@pzb1017 Wit, rare made sea of thieves under Microsoft, their best selling game , I know you are upset about banjo but rare is still kicking lol.

[@tjrage6168]

Brown Lex luthor taking over

[@stephenhamilton2678]

bring back the xbox 360 days it was amazing

[@rowen898]

Microsoft killed xbox and a lot of games. But Valve brought us a new console and has accelerated the portable game space. Life is good if you invest wisely.

[@Supersammy22_290]

The original Nintendo switch i have is the future cause Xbox died after the One s in 2016

[@ColePeyton79]

finally started the hellblade 2 advo......a new tweet of the same shit we have seen. just sad times for NT and that game.

[@ReforgeGaming]

agreed

[@alexsaraceno6144]

Got the Xbox day one back in November 2001. Been in love with the brand since. Until the end of the Xbox 360 era. But my first was the Atari 5200 and yes, had Colico Vision, Turbo Grfx 16, Sega Genesis, and every Nintendo console up to the Wi. But my main has always been Xbox since 2001. Such a shame how these people destroyed this brand.

[@joejoe2658]

such a shame you cant spell wii. adorably no vr, no gyro, no adaptive triggers, no haptics. TWO machines every dev hates. fk xbox.

[@alexsaraceno6144]

@@joejoe2658You alright ? Wii, there you go. Yeah it’s such a shame I know ! The sky is going to fall ! My man I think you need to rethink things in life and figure out where you’re headed. But for God sake’s dude, you need to take a long hard look in the mirror and figure out what the hell is wrong with you.

[@TheStlouisnation]

Xbox always felt like they were trend chasing and just sort of lucked into the good position they had during the 360 era. Microsoft really jusg believes they deserve to be successful in the console market without putting in any significant work.

[@Erlaxis]

MS has always been in the driver seat. Perhaps the difference is that Spencer's failed plan now means he can't convince the upper echelons of anything, and instead of resigning because of a differece of values/perspectives, he's just doing what he's told. And hey, I get it. The guy must have bills to pay.

[@maxreis9534]

I have a simple and very cost effective solution for Xbox: Spencer just needs to say again that the next year will be the year of Xbox. Then everything will be forgotten.

[@toastyburger]

He just needs to put a handheld prototype on his shelf and he'll be heralded as the savior of gaming.