Built for its Gun, the Sturer Emil | Cursed by Design

[@ConeOfArc]

Thanks for watching, check out this video next if you want to learn about the Sturer Emil's smaller cousin the Dicker Max: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHW9hIGtbJJnqJI

[@yarnickgoovaerts]

“Preforming well in combat but being a pain in the ass outside” seems to be the motto of most german tanks in the later half of the war

[@mbryson2899]

Except the Hetzer. . Which was a pain in the EVERYTHING to its crew.

[@darwinism8181]

I don't think we can even say that they performed well in combat; the vast majority of our knowledge that backs that up has been shown to be completely unreliable and largely a product of the fabrication of kill counts that was rampant during the war and even more rampant afterwards as Nazis were allowed to tell any tall tales they wanted to the Allies.

[@mbryson2899]

@@darwinism8181 Kill counts are sheer propaganda perpetuated by all sides. Often a carrot or stick for servicemen.

[@darwinism8181]

@@mbryson2899 Yes, I noted that and also the fact is that we know that Nazis took this to a whole different level than what is pretty standard. Entire engagements were fabricated, kill counts were incredibly overinflated, and that was BEFORE the Nazis got a free hand in dictating their actions to the Allies with the Allies just taking Nazis at their word.

[@mbryson2899]

@@darwinism8181 Rudel's book in particular is completely ridiculous but is still taken as fact by the wehraboos. At least Hartmann admitted that he'd lend his tulip-painted 109 to green pilots to scare Russian pilots away. I still don't believe he got a legit 365, though. Sakai's memoirs are conveniently vague about actual missions and kills, too. OTOH, I have questioned many US accounts, especially Lanphier adamantly claiming Yamamoto's transport.

[@edwardvincentbriones5062]

you never mentioned gun depression being greater than its elevation because, that’s the reason I’m interested in this vehicle

[@MOTA_KRAMPUS]

I was just about to say about that -15 degrees of gun depression, which is HUGE!

[@Ziggy0120]

no roof

[@krirthikdinesh7755]

I play this tank in warthunder and it is fun sniping

[@blackwidowrsa]

i don't believe you could reload the gun at those angles, think that's what i heard on Tank Museum but I can't really remember

[@andrewhopkins886]

@@blackwidowrsa probably not no, good luck trying to hoist a very heavy shell over you torso or head and close the breach without falling/pulling a muscle.

[@_Morph1ne_]

50% of German wartime engineering can be boiled down to “how do we fit this comically large gun onto a chassis?”

[@araflohd]

my favourite being the modified fcm 36 with a 105mm howitzer. still wonder how that thing didnt do a backflip when shot.

[@paprikaa117]

"What if we put enough armor to protect it from an artillery blast ten feet away, and a cannon that is completely overkill and will vaporize any tank from a 500 yard range?" "Porsche... that's fucking genius!"

[@p_filippouz]

Hans we need better transmission More armour you zay? No, better transmission! Bigger cannon you say? Got verdamnt Hans... Kriegsschiff Kanone? *Ja hanz* *Ja*

[@Youravaragejoe_Englisch]

No it’s not… German engineering during WW2 is half boiled down to a large gun onto a tank design chassis

[@CorneliusTheWizardDog]

The other 50% is "how much can we make the transmission burst in an hour?"

[@bfrank7389]

My favorite thing about the Emil is that is was used during the same timeframe as the panzerjäger 1. Can you imagine being assigned to panzer jager company and being assigned to a panzerjäger one only to see the crew next to you assigned a vehicle so large that yours could fit in its crew compartment

[@mikhailbolodo1597]

I mean, it would boost my morale through the roof! Imagine seeing Sherman's getting cut down like a hot knife through butter

[@yeetissheetsfoot60]

That would be a bit funny

[@juanzulu1318]

What? Panzerjäger 1 was sorted out long before the introduction of the Emil.

[@thegamingfish547]

@@juanzulu1318 wrong actually. The panzerjager 1 was used quite extensively on the eastern front due to the ease of production and it’s raw effectiveness. the 47mm could pen tank sides and rears well and in a TD role where it could be concealed it worked very well

[@juanzulu1318]

@@thegamingfish547 not wrong. As I said the Emil came much later after the retirement of the pz1 into Service.

[@klausmansfield5476]

the frontal armor on the Sturer Emil was actually quite thick for the time of construction, being the same as the Pz iii and Pz iv

[@ConeOfArc]

That is true, although by the time it actually reached combat that wasn't the case

[@ravenouself4181]

@@ConeOfArc To add to this: The 12.8 cm gun could easily out-range most potential enemies... so, it's armor wasn't that much of a concern.

[@magoshighlands4074]

@@ravenouself4181 The same can be said of the Maus and King Tiger, but all that gun power Don't mean anything if it gets wiped out by a Typhoon or can't reach the battle

[@jwenting]

@@magoshighlands4074 again, when designed that wasn't a factor as aircraft in anti-tank roles weren't a thing. Of course by the time it reached the front lines the first Il-2s were starting to appear in the tank buster role, but they weren't very effective as yet.

[@arczer2519]

@@jwenting ye even the "tank busters" weren't really that effective at destroying tanks, often having highly inflated kill ratios. on other hand what actually suffered were tank support structure (everything around tank) and morale

[@jarink1]

4:14 German Panzer crewman updates markings on barrel denoting kills (tank silhouette) and mechanical breakdowns (stripes).

[@r1f13man-sierra3]

Sweet

[@raymondkisner9240]

AND TOWED (STRIPES) ALSO! DONT CALL US WE CALL YOU!

[@ha2kon539]

@Capsized Cloud maybe that's why they gave the tiger its name

[@emil-1609]

Cope redditor

[@dulguunjargal1199]

Thats alot of breakdowns

[@christophervanoster]

In war thunder this is easily my favorite tank in terms of playing it. The gun is so freaking big you don’t have to really aim and you never bounce. I bring this thing into my 6.3 and 6.7 lineup and still get kills all the time. I penned the upper glacis of a super Pershing while he was angled at 900 meters with this in war thunder. And I’ve killed t34s (American heavy) from over 1000 meters. The gun is so good. I love it

[@QwerYT4819]

The only gun that can even come close to the performance of the Sturer Emil's gun (at a similar BR) is the IS-2's D-25T gun, and even that gun has less penetration than the Emil.

[@fenfrostpaws2000]

Hard to believe it went from 6.0 to 4.3

[@jmdriftboy]

In world of tanks this tank is easily my pain in the a$$ Tank, it is slow, no armor, and low mobility that maid me hate it

[@themistaken9571]

@@fenfrostpaws2000 balans by statistik moment

[@actualperson1971]

Meanwhile: get killed by R-3

[@michaelmcnaughton3593]

You are one smart guy. Enough time for people to watch the historical video, then immediately post the War Thunder gameplay video. Keep it up 👍

[@ConeOfArc]

Haha, I tried to set the times to be roughly that way so it would allow people to watch this first

[@josephd.5524]

This thing and the Dicker Max have been giving me fits this weekend in WT for some reason. They just became really popular all of a sudden for picking me off the moment I peek around a corner.

[@maxoneil1323]

if you have a friend they are super strong even in cqc

[@coolchrisable]

for me its the nashorn and the waffentrager like as soon as i peek its lime my time has come

[@shronkler1994]

mmmm yes, sturer ambushes are the best....it helps that it can pen AND oneshot everything it sees

[@kigr_33]

Thats gotta be me lol

[@RTFLDGR]

You gotta run around to the side of the Emil. BANG. They fall. That big gun is harmless, pointed away from you.

[@ChenAnPin]

Such an interesting idea, designing a weapon system almost entirely around the gun. Surely that would never happen again.

[@dinonuggiesguy4847]

Yes, especially for planes....

[@chazzer7564]

To be fair, the Challenger 2 was built for the gun first, and it works well under that concept

[@danieldan7713]

@@dinonuggiesguy4847 the A-10 is following you...

[@airplanemaniacgaming7877]

@@danieldan7713 Sure as hell beats whatever weird idea the Soviets had! Building a gun around a plane.....what were those vodka chugging idiots thinking............

[@gliderdan3153]

Wasn't the B-29 designed to drop the atomic bomb?

[@thelieutenant7732]

If tanks had souls, Moritz would be one of the most depressed tanks ever, being only one of two and forever alone after losing it’s only brother, now sitting in a museum surrounded by the enemy.

[@derpychicken2131]

A fate shared by many of his German siblings, so at least he does have some company from his cousins and uncles like the Maus

[@mouth7137]

Oh god, imagine your head being fused to your older brother's body after getting executed by your own people to prevent capture.

[@thelieutenant7732]

@@mouth7137 Well I guess in my head-canon a tank that never serves in combat never lived since combat is what it was built for. It was never truly alive if it didn't fulfill its purpose. At the very least, the tank needs to have entered service. The Maus in my eyes was lucky enough to have never really been alive so its mish-mashed remains are not as horrifying as sewing two twins together.

[@AndreasGassner]

Nah, Moritz is a big boy.

[@Xbalanque84]

@@thelieutenant7732 _>"head-canon"_ _>tank which literally has a cannon on its "head"_ _>mfw_

[@nocount7517]

Back when I played WoT, my clan and I lovingly referred to this monstrosity and its counterparts in the same tech branch as toasters.

[@yeetissheetsfoot60]

It fires hv t/ apt. HVT: high velocity toast APT: armor piercing toast

[@fahrimertdincer8421]

@@yeetissheetsfoot60 d*ckermax shit d*ckusmaximus here goes bacvards....bep bep bep.. oh emıl is it facing this direction or not its aiming at kv2 ...great lets hunt it

[@heenthousiast383]

as someone who still plays, ppl still call the Emil and the tank with stupidly long name toaster

[@Th0ughtf0rce]

Funny how at tier V Germany had the death toaster and France had the deathtub, fellow contender for fugliest tank in the game.

[@paavobergmann4920]

the dumpster of doom

[@stayhungry1503]

for germans being known for "over-engineering" all their vehicles its amazing how they so often managed to underpower them especially the tanks. seems to me that a powerful, reliable engine should have been the main focus of the engineers.

[@JeanLucCaptain]

the bigeest problem was a complete lack of commonality of parts. this hurt both the production ines and the ablty to effect repairs and maintian reliability in the field.

[@billwilson3609]

The US War Production Board was headed by a guy named Knudsen who was chairman of General Motors for the longest time. He decided it would be best to keep things simple so used existing proven designs that already were in production.

[@ThommyofThenn]

So German engineering is actually a thing but relied on way too optimistic logistical support?

[@supernus8684]

Isn't that exactly what over-engineering refers to? You engineer a tank around whatever engine you have available then you get a letter from the fuhrer saying "moar armor unt bigger gun bitte" so you go back to your design and over-engineer it so it somehow will work with the same engine but with several tons of weight added on top of it.

[@stayhungry1503]

@@supernus8684 to me over engineering means you spend way too much time and effort and money on things that are sometimes not even necessary and trying to put in all the latest technology updates at the same time instead of using slightly older but battle tested stuff. it does not mean putting in a weak engine in a heavy vehicle and being fine with it thats just bad engineering.

[@maxmond5315]

When I remember correctly, a grandpa from a friend told us back then some war stories and I think he said that sometime, when they knew they were facing the enemy very soon, they took an extra round with them and the loader had to take hold of it. So maby that explaines the extra ammo but I'm not sure, it's has been 15 years since that conversation.

[@Icspiders247]

Wouldn't it be easier to put one in the breech then fill out your ammunition rack rather than just carrying that extra round?

[@browning2471]

Jonathan Dee it sounds like they did do that? Then hold one extra round

[@erik260196]

@@Icspiders247 1 in the breech, 15 stored, 2 more held by the loaders Probably how the number 18 was created

[@maxmond5315]

@@erik260196 yeah that's what I thought

[@billwilson3609]

The two rounds probably were in their wood shipping boxes set on the floor in the rear.

[@ferronzomeren2733]

I think WarThunder has the additional 'machine gunner' such that you do not instantly die from one strafing run of an aircraft

[@Reiver-93]

yeah, it sounds like something done more for balancing than a mistake.

[@kildeer1897]

But you still do immediately die to aircraft

[@connivingkhajiit]

@@kildeer1897 having one extra makes a big difference

[@akriegguardsman]

Should be removed for historical accuracy tho

[@superspies32]

Also on War Thunder this TD is 99% of the case I died. Even M36 with HEATFS cannot pen its front and even its ass. The track made from something hard as Stalinium and cannot be broken even with magnetic mine of BTD-1

[@nonamesplease6288]

The Chieftain has an old Inside the Chieftains Hatch on the last remaining example of this vehicle at Kubinka. You can see how thoroughly the Soviets gutted the vehicle. Check it out. This is the video where he first has trouble pronouncing "selbstfahrlafette".

[@ravenouself4181]

The Soviets gutted it harder than a US Hospital guts one's bank account.

[@nonamesplease6288]

@@ravenouself4181 Yup, like a trip to the gas station and the grocery store.

[@ollep9142]

Here's a plausible explanation (as hypothesized by me) to the ammunition numbers "issues" discussed around 9:20 in the clip: Numbers given * 13 propellant racks * 15 projectile racks * 18 rounds carried The first two can be explained by the designer making good use of the available space. No more than 13 propellant racks could be fitted, but having two more projectiles would allow some added flexibility in the mix of projectiles carried. Bringing more ammo than there were racks for was the norm for assault guns. StuG III had racks for just over 40 rounds but normally carried about 75 rounds into combat, with the excess piled up on the floor and wherever the crew could squeeze it in. I'd be surprised if bringing as many rounds as physically possible wasn't the norm also for the Emil.

[@robertdeen8741]

Brings to mind the Fertinand-Elephant. That's what Happens when one presses a chassis into service for something it was never intended. I'm sure the crews felt like they should never of bothered. The main measure being, if you have to retreat and you can walk away faster than the machine can drive!

[@Athrun82]

Tbf the Elephant was actually working as long as you use it in a battlefield which is flat and open. And not use it in say the Italian mountains where this big and heavy chassis is useless.

[@nightshade4873]

ah yes, the tank that has the same degree of depression as i do.

[@RandyMCPEmaster]

Dude..

[@loucyphers_nightmare]

Then you must be married

[@nightshade4873]

@@loucyphers_nightmare i wish....

[@loucyphers_nightmare]

@@nightshade4873 : Be careful what you wish for

[@sleepyrasta420]

@@nightshade4873 don't do it.

[@the7observer]

11:43 a self propelled gun is better than a towed gun, unless the self propelled gun chassis is unreliable

[@zeusz3237]

In the game, I just love the Sturer... It is fun... That's all, it might perform crap on city maps sometimes, but it is just soooo fun...

[@RedXlV]

A pity that Kubinka isn't accessible to most of us anymore.

[@bildkistl]

why?

[@RedXlV]

@@bildkistl It's a bit difficult for Americans and Western European to travel to Russia in the current political situation.

[@sjonnieplayfull5859]

@@RedXlV At the current rate, I predict we will see the tanks from inside Kubinka on the frontline next year April....

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

I was looking forward to a trip to Belarus for the Stalin Line museum. That won’t be an option until regime change, now. Russian mafia have previously been keen to sell Kubinka’s collection internationally, though: you might see various vehicles in the west a few years from now.

[@DaleksInc]

@@sjonnieplayfull5859 It is now next April. T-54s(!), but nothing from Kubinka yet. Perhaps next April...

[@geoderegartta8009]

„Built for its gun“ A-10: hey big bro-

[@Mamorufumio]

6:00 to be fair you don't need to really move fast when your going to sit in the back of an open map and 'kemp bush' and be a real 'unfair plane'

[@uzunaruMelonness]

Welp, I'll be keeping an eye for a Sturer Emil blueprint for the Sprocket Game.

[@datpieceofbread9570]

Personally, I always kinda like the Emil. They were ridiculously powerful guns that managed to reuse a couple hulls that weren't being used, and are kinda the embodiment of a skilled craftsman can make any tool work well. Still not a fan of the suspension, but the machine overall I find to be an fascinating little footnote

[@NCA2212]

The 2 additional Shell are probably on the loaders Pocket since there's 2 loaders Coincidence? I THINK NOT

[@MOTA_KRAMPUS]

Real monster gun of it's time. Love it!

[@Magister195]

Even if it was used in 1943 it's gonna hit hard for the Soviets

[@Aninkovsky]

When you design tank quite well in HOI4, but did not even look at reliability stats...

[@yordobelps]

I gotta say thank you for doing a vid on the Sturer Emil, it's by far my favorite Tank Destroyer not only in WT but also in general :)

[@CurseOfZeSnail]

Hit an over 3km shot on Red Desert with this bad boy. For that alone it will always hold a special place in my heart.

[@Straswa]

Great vid ConeofArc. I've seen this tank in WoT but had no idea two operational units actually took part in combat.

[@socialjihad5724]

This is one of my favorite vehicles in war thunder, and is surprisingly good

[@mpf1947]

This may be the only tracked vehicle capable of too much gun depression.

[@joeperson4792]

The engine is located under the breech block, so it was a pain in the rear end to service.

[@jwenting]

being able to shoot down into a fortification from an overlook is a good thing :)

[@Hellsong89]

This vehicle really shows how massive that thing is in scale, absolute beast. Maybe if the had come up sturdier drivetrain and engine this would been war winning concept, we never know. Also fast moving blade at the back could have stabilized for repeated shots, well as used to dig emplacement for ambushes. Interesting vehicle never the less.

[@threegoldmartlets]

Established titles = con.

[@samiamrg7]

4:26 Woah, woah, woah, I’m gonna need some more details on this one. The 12.8 cm shell didn’t penetrate the Churchill turret, but was able to knock it off the turret ring? And they filled the tank with bunnies during the test? For what!? They didn’t have dummies in the 1940’s?

[@soupwizard]

Someone had a pint too many during lunch at the pub and, mis-hearing the plan, wrote down "fill it with test bunnies".

[@TexasNationalist1836]

So it’s the tank version of the A-10

[@sawyerlogon7666]

Yes and i love it

[@davidthomas2870]

Not quite. The A-10 is useful, reasonbly resistant to small arms and can cary a significant amount of extra armaments for when they need a weapon other than the gun, making it somewhat versatile. The Steurer Emil has a big gun and that's pretty much it.

[@igoryst3049]

@@davidthomas2870 A10 is not really useful, all the roles it fulfills are done better by other planes

[@QuintonMurdock]

No. The a10 is actually effective

[@gjantonio]

@@igoryst3049 one hell of a moralle booster tho, and no other planes can compare to how high the A-10 can lift a soldier's spirits. In short, not entirely useless. (I may have written some words wrong, but honestly idc)

[@danielcurtis1434]

Almost a quarter mil subs!!! You deserve more for the quality of your videos!!! Keep it up you’ll get there!!!

[@michaeloakleaf]

Fun fact, Köningstiger, literally translates to king tiger, but that is also the common name for the bengal tiger in german.

[@defender12.24]

*Königstiger

[@darth_elsa6681]

Always saw this design but never knew it actually saw combat.

[@Macrochenia]

I remember playing this thing in World of Tanks. One of the absolute worst German TDs in the game: got the stealth of a heavy tank and the armor of a self-propelled artillery piece. And it's got absolutely no horizontal gun traverse so you have to move the whole vehicle to aim at something that's even a tiny bit off-center from you. Even with only 15 shots for the gun it was hard to stay alive long enough to use all its ammo.

[@americanmarxist-leninist1214]

I play it in War thunder and honestly it’s amazing in that game. The worst it can face is an IS-1 or maybe a Jumbo Sherman which the 128mm gun can easily wipe them out. It’s drawback is planes just strafe your crew and wipe em out of you aren’t careful

[@Macrochenia]

@@americanmarxist-leninist1214 In World of Tanks it sees matchmaking against the Jagdtiger, M103, and T95. Vehicles with a high chance of bouncing its shots and obliterating it with their return fire.

[@americanmarxist-leninist1214]

@@Macrochenia wow that’s really stupid matchmaking. I didn’t realize it was that bad

[@Macrochenia]

@@americanmarxist-leninist1214 Thanks to its gun, the Sturer Emil is classified as a Tier VII vehicle so it fights against vehicles of up to Tier IX. And once you pass Tier V, you generally find yourself playing bottom tier matches until you hit Tier IX. They knew the problems with the matchmaking for years and deliberately didn't bother fixing it.

[@zachreal-09]

You should do a forged for battle for the IS2 and all its variants it dosent get a lot of praise despite being a reliable powerful and effective heavy breakthrough tank.

[@SnafuWT]

@4:17 the 128mm is not the most powerful armament to be mounted on a vehicle by the end of the war. quick example, the long 130mm of the su100y. or the long 152mm on the su152BM

[@patrickstewart3446]

Or the M12 with a 155mm howitzer.

[@ottaviobasques]

But it was considered the most powerful AT cannon of that time, the soviet S-70, built after the war, was comparable to the PaK 44

[@wolfsoldner9029]

I think the lenght of the gun is also a factor here.

[@SnafuWT]

@@wolfsoldner9029 su100y has a long barrel 130mm. su152b has a long barrel 152mm.

[@SnafuWT]

@@patrickstewart3446 well, that's a howitzer, it doesn't really have APHE shells.

[@daveybyrden3936]

You can deduce the radio equipment of this vehicle from [a] its role and the type of unit it was assigned to, and [b] mounts and attachment points remaining on the walls of the Kubinka example. The radio was a full-sized Fu.Spr, almost certainly the "d" version. There was an intercom, and since this was a Panzerjager, it should have been based on the "Kasten 23". Certainly that device fits the wall mounts. The intercom and radio were in the forward right corner of the compartment, hence the commander was also the radio op. That was normal for Panzerjager vehicles. The driver must have been on the intercom and in contact with the commander. But it's not clear if the gunner had a link too.

[@strategicmind2652]

I'd love an episode around the Lorraine 50t on fake tank Friday as I find the tank interesting and I'm curious as to how fake it was

[@kKingKazuma]

I love strafing this vehicle in my A6Ms in ground RB.

[@AlphaHorst]

Dear Gajin. Please don't fix the MG guy... he is the only reason this thing survives more than one shot.

[@actualperson1971]

Yeah, I feel like this is one of those balancing changes that's necessary for the game

[@noobyd9767]

German engineers: i will mount a 380mm gun on a car if i can

[@thefirstkingdogo1126]

You use a car? I put one on my bike 🚲

[@noobyd9767]

by a car i mean the Peel 50

[@OrionGuards]

The 10.5 gun would go onto the dicker max There's nothing down here

[@thelemming54]

This channel is legit. Great work as always

[@mavislenya1110]

wasn't tiger one also essentially designed around the gun?

[@Penha-yz8vj]

at least if the transmission was

[@Sseltraeh89]

Tiger I was originally supposed to carry the 7.5cm l/70 and the 8.8cm was meant to be stopgap solution for first production series, so probably not

[@christophervanoster]

The turret was, I don’t think the whole tank was

[@23GreyFox]

The design was more than good enough for the intended role.

[@margiewambui5548]

This tank reminds me of the absolute pleasure of detonating the ammo of Sherman's in war thunder. They explode So beautifully

[@TheStig_TG]

Same with the Emil, blowing it up in my sherman is just amazing

[@Nick-rs5if]

"We need a better transmission, Hans." "A bigger gun you say?" "No Hans, a better transmission!" "More armour you say?" "Gott verdammt, Hans! Transmission!" "Ah, schlachtschiff kanone." "... Ja, Hans. JA!"

[@androidtexts6948]

Established titles is a scam

[@huntclanhunt9697]

So is kamikoto knives.

[@aleksbestmusic6903]

Cone probably crying rn because he won’t get another sponsorship (Don’t take seriously)

[@deadstop4434]

My brother in Christ it is a $40 gag gift if you think that you can be a part of royalty for $40 you shouldn’t reproduce

[@maotisjan]

I would still buy it, as a joke on myself + they would at least plant a tree, that counts for something

[@PatrulescuDenis]

You can literally donate to team trees

[@NewBieAlmostPro]

This is a very nice video. The explaining, the details. It's beautiful. Have a sub, you deserve it and i will definitely check out your channel more

[@giorgigarsevanidze6334]

It doesn't even have a machine gun, adding a machinegunner doesn't make any sense

[@lunatic_nebula9542]

the machine gunner name is used when they cant put another crew

[@giorgigarsevanidze6334]

@@lunatic_nebula9542 It was also an alternative name for radio operators, as WWII tanks required them to do an additional job of operating a machine gun next to the driver's position. But St. Emil still doesn't need a radio operator, because commander was in charge of the radio.

[@ottaviobasques]

@@lunatic_nebula9542 just name it "Passanger"

[@Hcb37]

Jentz used the after action reports of Panzerjäger-Abteilung 521 to make the case that both the Dicker Max and Sturer Emil were seldom evolved in engagements where the caliber and range of their guns were justified in comparison to available 8,8 cm guns. It’s not just that these vehicles were difficult to keep going in the field, in the end they didn’t offer enough improvement in killing power to justify the refinement of their panzerjager designs.

[@828enigma6]

So what happened to Max? Is he still wandering looking for his brother?

[@ConeOfArc]

Possible he's still out there in a Russian bog somewhere but more likely he was destroyed either in combat or by his crew.

[@mugbug5]

Why does a Sturer Emil Vs Maus drag race sound like a good idea

[@ArchusKanzaki]

Ah yes.... the tank that is basically the final trial for German Sniper TD line in World of Tank, before you reached Valhalla that is Rhm-Borsig Waffentrager. Yes, it have depression, but good luck reaching positions to even use it in time, or even survive reaching positions

[@sleepyrasta420]

It's the same in war thunder

[@SpagettyCraft]

turbocharger goes brrr

[@hampterofficial]

7:56 My best guess is for balancing reasons since all 4 crew members could be killed in a single pass by a plane and having a second crewmember sitting in a more protected area would increase the survivability.

[@KrizotskiSN]

Emil is like a variant of nashorn or I'm just stupid?

[@jammygamer8961]

nope, completely different vehicle

[@christophervanoster]

Nashorn was build on a modified panzer 4, and had the long 88. The sturer like he said is based off the canceled tiger prototype VK3001H project. Complete different designs but they served a very similar if not identical role

[@Nottrules]

A flying gun (A-10) and a moving gun (Emil) amazing how the designers had similar ideas

[@colbyuetake130]

....in the vaguest way, that's about the only similar thing between them...

[@Nottrules]

@@colbyuetake130 One put it on wheels err- tracks, I guess and the other put it on wings.

[@thegregitto]

Ah yes, basically the tank version of the Duck (HS.129)

[@FizzleFX]

+1 projectile in the gun +1 on the lap of radio man

[@MegaJani]

8:06 And they also gave it a V-12 engine, apparently.

[@Mr_Bunk]

Source?

[@MegaJani]

@@Mr_Bunk Look at the WT module overlay, it's clearly not inline.

[@CH-pv2rz]

You put out some excellent videos. May not agree with them on all aspects but they are of high quality in research and in presentation.

[@QuintonMurdock]

Germany try not to build a big dumb useless wonderwaffle that is just a waste of very limited resource challenge. Any %

[@Mimonbaraka98]

Where is emil useless? It was very evective.

[@Mimonbaraka98]

@MirroredVoid obe single had 31 confirmed both together may more

[@scottwalker2980]

0:29 wonder weapons which were never built > wasnt the V 1 rocket program considered a wonder weapon ?

[@Tigerpanzer6666]

people found out this was a scam 1:45

[@peterknudsen3490]

I'm sure someone has said it before but I'll add it here at the top. Stuhre is not stubborn, it's big. The german word for big. Big Emil.

[@user-mn8lz7gf6d]

"established titles" is a scam.

[@michaelwittmann6328]

I remember this tank from the old stalingrad game, the mission was always protecting them as they were so fragile that anything could destroy them even by mistake (like aircrafts machine guns)

[@sirbum1918]

Thumbs down for the scam sponsor.

[@Mr_Bunk]

Aye. As someone with direct Scottish roots, I'm not sure whether to laugh or repeatedly head-desk at this.

[@FokkeWulfe]

@1:18 or a couple seconds either side, the rear Tiger, I think, was throwing a track. If you look closely, you'll see the track shift to the inside of the front bogey, just as the video cuts to the Matilda.

[@bobkowalski7655]

You have a good eye m8.

[@FokkeWulfe]

@@bobkowalski7655 thank you sir

[@Mavve69]

I think it’s pronounced sturer emil and not sturer emil.

[@pastorofmuppets9346]

Bruh

[@lechendary]

i think its called sturer emil

[@Mavve69]

@MirroredVoid oh your right bro

[@robbyducey]

i always wondered why it had the hatch in the back despite being an open top and the gun not blocking the driver's hatch when it rotated

[@YourLordMobius]

Land battleships you say? *ORANGE INTENSIFIES*

[@tankranksyt]

11:26 DAMN not destroyed but craped with Earth itself

[@victorfinberg8595]

nice video. small point (3:10) : Betonknacker splits into Beton (Concrete) - knacker (breaker), not betonk - nacker

[@slavsquatsuperstar]

Stubborn Emil, Fat Max, Mouse, Rat… and they say Germans don’t have a sense of humor xD

[@jenniferstewarts4851]

Designs like the Bison were stopgap measures... Germany had been using towed artillery, and found they needed more mobile aritllery. Same goes with the Panzerjäger I. Germany found it needed heavier anti-tank guns, and needed them to be mobile, towing and setting them up worked great for preset defensive positions but not well for more mobile operations. when encountering russian armor it was found that the 37mmm couldn't pen, so they rushed a vehicle into production with a 47mm, while getting tanks with a 50mm and 75mm anti tank guns... as russian armor becme larger and tougher, they shifted to the 75 for the tank gun, 88 for anti tank, then 105, for anti-tank. But 88's and 105's were to heavy to move around teh battlefield by hand... heck the 75 was to heavy... so they put them on tracked chassies. The US, UK, and even Russians did the same.

[@nickolasthomson5373]

What is the second vehicle at 12:10 ?

[@lafox2833]

Would you do a video on the vk30.01h and vk30.01p, the only videos I can find of them are world of tanks videos. A few snippets of info on the wikis and some pictures.

[@ConeOfArc]

I plan to eventually, I have to see how much info is out there for them first though.

[@SlartibartfastTheFourth]

Quite a lot of photos and in action , for only two tanks ever made !

[@myvideosetc.8271]

"it was designed around the main armament", happy BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT noises in the distance.

[@TheLPN05Fan]

If it had 10 or even only 5kph more Topspeed I'd love this thing. Truly though, the Pz.Sfl.IVa "Dicker Max", the little brother of the "Sturer Emil" how I like to think about it, was and is better in almost every aspect other than the Guns ammo. Not to mention that the Dicker Max is one of my alltime favourite tanks, maybe solely outdone by the FV4202 and Waffenträger series.

[@Absaalookemensch]

I read Max and Moritz in German as a kid. I loved it. What a way back moment :)

[@JesseKnight2000]

Bigger than the Dicker Max, its a good TD

[@scottyjohn]

Well now you have to cover the Dicker Max...(if you haven't already), and no one talks about the Brümbar and I can't find much on them...

[@Atom-kn3zf]

Fun fact in-game Sturer Emil and Jagdtiger has same sound gun in Old verison that had same 12,8cm ( Sound ) which confused player mistaking Sturer Emil As Jagdtiger in old br , that why Gaijin change Sound of Emil ,

[@selfdo]

It seems like the problem was that this was more a self-propelled gun than a tank destroyer; i.e., it was meant to blast bunkers to smithereens, so it's mobility issues weren't a big deal against a non-moving target. By the time these two prototypes got into action, though, France had been already beaten; so they were already out of a job. Sure, with that oversized 12.8 cm cannon, and able to fire from positions on the Russian steppes, one of these "Sturer Emil" vehicles could pick off enemy armor at very long engagement ranges; but it seems it'd likewise, getting away from it's mobility and reliability issues, it'd be an easy target for enemy artillery.

[@edi9892]

I do think that enemies could kill that tank at this range, as the armour was rather negligible. However, I think that what kept them safe was that they had better optics whereas the enemies were never intended to engage at such ranges. Also, the tank can be more behind cover than many other tanks and had a good gun depression which can be exploited in uneven terrain.

[@adamhhing4069]

That was the smoothest add transition ever.

[@paulguzman1634]

These look like the Nashorn tank destroyers. Really bad boys in combat. One took out some of our first super Pershing's to see combat

[@raptorcell6633]

So it can kick major ass in combat but was a major pain in the ass for: the crews, maintenance teams and everyone else involved in keeping the vehicle online So it's like every other late-war German monster then.

[@4lexIsNotReal51]

That sponsor segway was flawless