Germany's Illegal Medium Tank, the Grosstraktor | Cursed by Design

Most people probably think of the Panzer 1 as being the first German tank after WW1. Although the name would logically bring you to that conclusion it was actually predated by several designs including the illegal Grosstraktor. Along with several other vehicles the Grosstraktor was built in secret under the Treaty of Versailles which forbid Germany from having tanks. Unsurprisingly this rule would not stop them from continuing to experiment with the concept of the tank.
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[@ConeOfArc]

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[@WR120EZ]

In real life I am part German and many kids called me a nazi in history class because we had to search up German history stuff They still call me a nazi to this day And it offends me I am real Disappointed in people these days now

[@P455w0rds]

​@@WR120EZur not alone

[@merafirewing6591]

@@WR120EZ I did once told some kids that I'm part german, and also got the same response. But fortunately I don't have to hear that ever again. Couldn't tell he was joking, but it really didn't sound like a joke at all.

[@djraythefurry0420]

Yay nbfz !!! Lol I've asked for the neubaufahrzeug for a bit and now my dream come true lol 😂 hope anybody reading this comment as a good day good luck to all and may you all find peace in your domain :3 by the way love your content cone lol

[@micrator2085]

good job on pronouncing the names

[@Choppytehbear1337]

"Porche created a very complex vehicle." And that should surprise no one.

[@emergingloki]

At least it wasn't a hybrid.

[@justADeni]

@@emergingloki oh god oh fucq he's gonna add a Petrol-Electric Engine onto it someone stop him oh no

[@shadowraven3253]

@@justADeni *Porsche drawing with way too much fun* Everyone: no...not the Petrol-Electric Engine!!

[@edim108]

@@justADeni funnily enough the main issue wasn't with the petrol-electric drive system itself, but with how horrendously unreliable the air cooled engine was. It certainly didn't help that copper was in very high demand elsewhere like trains, so making tanks with big generators and electric motors wasn't the smartest choice... If you could substitute copper with some cheaper material and make the engine reliable, it wouldn't be a bad idea as it'd be significantly less mechanically complex.

[@bushidiru]

wait wait wait. Are you telling me that Ferdinand Porsche came up with a complicated design for the mechanical portions of a tank? Shocking.

[@Anonymous-uo7nb]

Yes in fact he even helped with the design of the tiger

[@lairdcummings9092]

Pretty much my reaction; Porsche gets kinky? Say it's not so! 🙄

[@bushidiru]

@@lairdcummings9092 just thinking about all those interlaced road wheels and torsion-bars makes me shudder. He was clearly out of control by the end

[@lairdcummings9092]

@@bushidiru Porsche was brilliant, but he was *far* too impressed with his brilliance. There wasn't a humble bone in his body.

[@bushidiru]

@@lairdcummings9092 completely agree, there wasn't a design created that he didn't think he could improve upon or "fix". I think it could be argued that he helped the Allied war effort far more than the Axis powers.

[@battysparton65]

TFW you hear Porsche's name attached to a Pre-Cold War era tank. "Porche.. welp the next words are going to be complex drive train" "Created a complex vehicle" "Close enough"

[@lordcaptainteapot6143]

This one was surprisingly hard to find information for! Guess you have to hand it to the Reichswehr, they really knew how to keep a secret even nearly 100 years later ;)

[@4T3hM4kr0n]

Either that or the vehicle was so bad that they decided to chuck documentation to save future readers from face palming.

[@Tankliker]

@@4T3hM4kr0n Tbh, it probably was comparable to something like the T-28 or maybe Char B1 crew performance wise.

[@Bialy_1]

Every German document was captured in 1945 by one side or another... so if its hard to get the info then Reichswehr would be the very last suspect on the list! That tank was build in cooperation with Soviet Russia and they are more than happy to even rename WW2 to something different and claim that they joined the war after German invasion to omit sharing any information how in 1939 they were fighting as brothers in arms with Germany... In 1933 Moscow comintern gived an order to communists in Germany to not vote for National-Socialists oposition, without that help from Moscow they would never get into power as they won it by a very small margin. Cooperation with Germany started right after the WW1, when Soviets attacked Poland, Germans blocked borders to not allow French and other allies to give any hardware or ammo to Polish side that was stoping Bolsheviks->that came to Russia from German countries that developed communism and Stalin even dreamed about lerning German to read all the communist books in theirnative tongue... First Stalin book was Published in Vienna, when Adolf was living there... In april of 1922 that cooperation betwen Soviets and Germany became official with Treaty of Rapallo. Without it Soviets would be bankrupt and most likely kicked out from government in few years as they refused to pay Russian debt and because of that noone wanted to do any bussines with them... Generaly both sides are more than happy to spread completely false narrative about this war. You do not gonna see any document in Russian TV where they are showing how in September 1939, Red Army and wehrmacht were doing join victory parade in Brest(exact middle of the Second Polish Republic), instead you have movies there about heroic deffence of Brest stronghold in 1941 -> the same stronghold that was deffended by Polish soldiers when they were making that parade in September 23, 1939 -> after the parade German soldiers left and Soviet soldiers took their place around the Polish stronghold... Germans on the other side want to paint themself as the ones that stoped the communism when literally they were from the day one the biggest ally and literally the icebreaker for it->that is why Soviets provided training grounds, metal and fuel for WW2... they even instaled radio beacon for German boombers in Minsk -> after war they started calling it Minsk Gorod Geroi -> Hero City of Minsk(for stoping German Army...).

[@calessel3139]

By the way, the pre-war "tractor" designation of tanks is what caused the Germans to use Dunkel Grau (dark grey) as a base color scheme in the first part of WW2. In the 30s, dark grey was the universal standard color of commercial construction vehicles in Germany, just as yellow is in the United States. So, in part, to pass tanks off as "tractors" while under the Versailles Treaty they were painted dark grey. This color remained the basis for tank paint schemes in the German army until its replacement by Dunkel Gelb (dark yellow) in 1943.

[@ianpayad4595]

I’m just so used to the gray color that any other paint job on German tanks just seems weird to me

[@daveybyrden3936]

Er...that confuses me. Once the war started, there was no more need to hide the existence of tanks, so why keep the grey paint for three more years? And the dark grey wasn't introduced until 1937, so the first highly secret tanks were painted in three colours and looked very tanky.... see 5:07

[@EricToTheScionti]

@@daveybyrden3936 no reason to suddenly change it. Since paint costs money

[@calessel3139]

@@daveybyrden3936 If you bear with me I'll l explain why the Germans continued to use dark grey. To clarify, Feldgrau (Nr.840B2) was initially accepted as the color for the "Landwirtschaftliche Schlepper" (Agricultural Tractor) Krupp Tractor in 1933. It was used to veil mass produced tanks in development at the time from the prying eyes of foreign politicians who might stop such projects under the laws of the Versailles Treaty. To quote T.Jentz: "The [Krupp-Tractor's] disguise was further enhanced when these one-hundred-fifty 1.Serie.Las [Krupp Tractor] chassis were painted "feldgrau" as specified for commercial vehicles." - Jentz.T, "Panzer Tracts: No.1-2, Panzkamfwagen-I," 2002 German tank production was quite small at the time with little more than these vehicles composing the entire Panzerwaffe (if you even could call it that). So by default, Feldgrau was the base color for German tanks. As Hitler began to disregard the Versailles Treaty and more German tanks types were designed and manufactured, a three tone color patter was introduced by the Waffenamt in 1935 (the colors- Erdgelb [brown-yellow] (Nr.17), Braun [brown] (Nr.18), and Gruen [green] (Nr.28)). Feldgrau was still used as a part of this camouflage pattern, but not as a base coat as seen later. In November of 1938 the Waffenamt ordered a new two tone camouflage pattern implemented immediately disregarding the earlier three tone pattern. The colors consisted of Dunkelgrau (Nr.46) & Dunkelbraun (Nr.45). This pattern was retained for all panzers until mid-1940. (As an interesting side note: developed black & white photos do not delineate between these two colors, consequently all early war photography taken of German Tanks appears to show a single solid dark grey color. Consequently this was considered fact for decades. However, Jentz discovered, in his research on the Pzkpfw-I series in the early 2000s, that despite this, the B&W negatives of the same photographs actually do display the two paint tones sceme.) On June 12th 1940 at the end of the war with France, orders were given to drop Dunkelbraun (Nr.45) from the camouflage pattern for German tanks and instead vehicles were to be painted in overall Dunkel Grau (Nr.46) now renamed RAL7021. At this point no reason was given, but in an order dated 31.07.40, German officials specified the change was a result of a shortage of other (non-grey) paints. This standard remained until Dunkel Gelb (dark yellow) RAL7028 replaced it as a base color in February 1943. So to sum up. Dark grey was used initially to hide the true nature of German tank development in 1933 and 1934 (yes, a very small number of German prototypes were painted multi-tone camouflage before 1933). As the Versailles Treaty was ignored, the Germans began producing more tanks in 1935, switching to a natural looking three tone non-grey camouflage pattern. Just before the war, in 1938, the German tank paint scheme was changed to dark grey and dark brown. This pattern was seen on all German tanks, as far as we know, up until the end of the invasion of France 1940. Finally, starting in 1940, a shortage of natural earth tone paint colors forced the ever growing Panzerwaffe to use an overall base coat of dark grey for all their vehicles until February of 1943 when it was supplanted by the color dark yellow.

[@daveybyrden3936]

@@calessel3139 But...."feldgrau" is not the same as "dunkelgrau". "Feldgrau" is basically dark green.

[@TheArklyte]

Ah yes, Grosstractor. An illegitimate son of Independent, himself a secret sire to T-28 and official sire to Neubaufahrzeug, grandpa of Begleiwagen aka PzKw.IV

[@executivedirector7467]

The Independent was more the father of the T-35. The T-28 is akin to the A6E1

[@TheArklyte]

@@executivedirector7467 ehm... Independent plans were stolen/bought by germans and used to create several of Grosstractor prototypes. Prototypes that were tested in Kama and copied by soviets. It's a literal circle of military industrial espionage. I *wasn't* talking just about being inspiration, I talked about literal components. Suspension, transmission, sprockets, road wheels. You can even look at them and see where germans made improvements and alterations to original design and where soviets failed to copy component or decided "it wasn't important"(spoiler: it bloody was). T-35 was much more advanced and original design albeit likewise having connections to work of german engineers(specifically Edward Grotte) in USSR. And unlike T-28, there is no shared "bloodline" with brits. Only said "inspiration".

[@callmeclementine0w0]

This thing seems like an amazing tank to put into the German Premium tree in War Thunder. Like this thing, at 1.3 with the NBFZ, would be so fun!!

[@builder396]

Imagine if it were amphibious ingame...

[@EricToTheScionti]

Its in WoT

[@coltpiecemaker]

Honestly, getting a version with the two guns and amphibious capabilities would be super cool. It'd probably be at 1.0 though, and would also more likely be an event vehicle since Gaijin seems adverse to adding low-tier premiums these days.

[@laktho]

I am in love with low tier crap! It's not perfect like Leopard 1 or an Abrahams but the makes its charm! Would love to have the Großtraktor!

[@crimsonlegion2048]

It is in WoT, and even though it's a medium tank, it honestly plays more like a shitty light tank.

[@thefez-cat]

France: "Hey! Germany! What's that you got there?" Germany ~stone-faced~ "...Big Tractor."

[@od1452]

Thanks. You have found more info on this tank than I have ever run across . I'm surprised a model company hasn't made models of all the variations yet . lol. There are a number of tanks like this and the Grotto . I hope you will include them in future videos.

[@Bored_Kaga]

Classic Ferdinand Porsche and his tank designs, I suppose

[@kotikvtanke2349]

Ah yes, a coffin with HEAT.

[@winniechau4442]

Interesting comment! Love it 😊

[@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS]

I mean it is a perfectly fine vehicle for the interwar period and a country that has all the restrictions on it that they did.

[@davidmoore1253]

HEAT wasn't invented until WW2.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

@davidmoore1253 false, HEAT was first tested by swiss inventor Henry Monhaupt in 1935 and completely separately by Austrian inventor Franz Rudolf Thomanek in 1938. The first army to officially review HEAT was the Swiss army in sep 1938. Followed hy the British and french in early 1939 (before the war). It wasn't mass produced untill ww2 but it existed before ww2.

[@davidmoore1253]

@@matthiuskoenig3378 The point is, HEAT wasn't a consideration until this tank was already obsolete.

[@kabob0077]

5:17 Holy SHIT that hull is WIDE!

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

It' the Maus' hull, no?

[@lordcaptainteapot6143]

@@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 correct, it is one of the Maus hulls

[@nicki030ha6]

So the Großtraktor was tested in the USSR, but it was still assembled in Germany right?

[@ConeOfArc]

Yes

[@GBeagle1407]

@@ConeOfArc Speaking of which didn't the USSR steal this design to create the tanks like the T-28 and T-35? (The multi turret feature)

[@soldatnr444]

@@GBeagle1407 both sides learnt from each other

[@BHuang92]

@@GBeagle1407 Not many sources mention the similarities of the T-28 and the Grosstraktor suspension which is no coincidence.

[@Vilamus]

@@GBeagle1407 The T-35 was more "inspired" by the Vicker's Independant tank.

[@TheMoistestNugget]

what do you mean? this is clearly farming equipment

[@jamespocelinko104]

Britain: "Hey Germany, whatcha got there?" Germany: "Und traktor."

[@kabob0077]

6:31 One can only hope British vehicles don't become the modern target of "[Insert name here], The Transmission Broke!" jokes and the like...

[@nvelsen1975]

Too late: Landrover has existed for quite some time now.

[@d3203]

British vehicles were known as rolling maintainence nightmares since always.

[@brianargo4595]

If there's no oil under it, there's no oil in it. Not to mention Lucas wiring systems needing their magic smoke replaced on a regular basis

[@watcherzero5256]

General Dynamics design mostly built in Germany, so blame the Yanks.

[@aucaau]

I like how in the beginning, he plays Hearts of iron IV's: "Bring Forth the tanks" nice easter egg. Great videos as always.

[@Eleolius]

This was clearly a gross violation of the treaty.

[@taxidermypolarbear1724]

Yes

[@theoneandonlyartyom]

yes it is but its too cool for me to care

[@raymondromanos1479]

Great video. Can't wait for the one on the Neubaufahrzeug. Don't forget. That's four words put together. Neu. Bau. Fahr. Zeug. The literal translation is: new construction driving thing. I love German!

[@comentedonakeyboard]

Wait till you discover: Bundesverkehrswegeplanungsbeschleunigungsgesetz

[@William_Bryant]

What I’ve learned: Es ist ein traktor. Es ist gross.

[@meilinchan7314]

Voroshilov: "This traktor isst sehr gross, comrade Stalin." Stalin: "Not gross enough for me; l I'll have our men copy its design for the T28, comrade."

[@jameswade6641]

Excellent subject! I look forward to the next one.

[@AhmadArtFactory]

Amazing video as always! 👍🏻

[@djraythefurry0420]

I watch this video 30 minutes after released and this was a really good video not going to lie , thnx for this especially since researching some of this stuff is a pain in the ass lol good luck to anybody reading this hope you have a good day and may you find peace in your domain

[@stumpythedwarf8712]

Fun look at a rare tank as always.

[@Mr_Bunk]

You forgot to mention how at least one Großtraktor ended up being used as target practice for Volkssturm panzerfausts by 1945.

[@korbell1089]

"Daimler-Benz's team created an apparently very complex vehicle." Of course they did, they're German and incapable of anything less!😅

[@mikeynth7919]

It is the German way!

[@rudatkatzn9171]

Thank you for covering the Neubaufahrzeug Next, its unironically my Favorite Tank

[@Jedi.Toby.M]

Love it! Reminds me of Indiana Joenes tank...love this channel mate! Cheers!

[@themanformerlyknownascomme777]

it was definatly easy to hide compared to things like ships.

[@PaperThinArmor]

Shame that none of these survived the war even as monuments. Probably was seen as as another by gone useless tank at the time post wwii by allies

[@SephirothRyu]

Someone has to say it. That Tractor is so Gross.

[@cartonwaffle]

One of my favorite tanks

[@afatcatfromsweden]

Remember kids, it’s not a tank, just a unusually large tractor!

[@MAUSMANN44]

Dude be playing the Hearts of Iron 4 soundtrack, giving me flashbacks of all the times I lost the war as Germany...

[@benwelch4076]

Looks a bit like the Char B, I have read about this tank, but only in slight detail. Nice to know more about it. Thanks. Cheers all.

[@williamzk9083]

I suspect it could have become an outstanding infantry fighting vehicle with minor modifications by carrying half a squad. As it was amphibious it could have been a sound basis for Operation Sea Lion (the invasion of Britain) had even a few hundred been available in 1940.

[@alefmagnum207]

It has a style of The Great War tank. It even shares some similarities with Char 2C

[@EricToTheScionti]

It looks like its babby

[@syos1979]

I don't remember this one but I remember the "New Construction Vehicle" for sure.

[@paoloviti6156]

Just saw it, just subscribed because I didn't know anything about this Großtrraktor nor it was also amphibious. I'm really looking forward to see your videos 👍👍👍👍

[@legio-IV-Cataphract]

If mexico continue the TNCA salinas tank it could have created something wonderful

[@yaboybones1954]

It looks like a chimera from 40k

[@stratislav6283]

it's an honor to serve the emperor

[@killergames391]

I kinda want to see @ConeofArc opinion of the tanks of Foxhole

[@dalel3608]

Yes

[@ВасилийМорозов-л7х]

If the amphibious requirement had survived to the Neubaufahrzeug, it would have become the first landship capable of being a water ship.

[@edocsil123]

Great video! But then when did tanks become 'legal'?

[@bencejuhasz6459]

Greetings from Hungary! Some things I'd like to mention: The Großtraktor was the vehicle where the Reichswehr, later Wehrmacht, realized that you need the 3-man turret, with tank commander, gunner and loader as the crew members in the fighting compartment. Unlike other nations, they didn't have to learn that the hard way how to divide the tasks of the crew. Please, next time, don't say 'grosstractor' say it properly with two 'O's like "gro-ostraktor".(Try to say it like QuickyBaby did, that's pretty close for anybody.) That's why it's "Großtraktor" in German and not 'Grosstraktor'.(I know,it' somewhat tricky.) Don't worry, I'm pretty far from being fluent in German and I understand that one of your sources was probably Panzer Tracts No 04. Other than those,it was an incredibly good video and with the words "...xxxx which will be the subject of the next video in this series", you just won another subscriber. Keep up the good work. A Hungarian Armour Enthusiast

[@BHuang92]

And the Germans also took the idea of a three manned turret concept from the British which a couple of military analysts witnessed the British tank exercises during the 20s.

[@bencejuhasz6459]

@@BHuang92 I'm not sure that the British vehicles of the '20s' had a three-man turret crew (with the exception of some experimental and prototype tanks), but if that's the case, and the Germans've been shown inside the British vehicles, and been told about the different crew roles, then I can imagine them thinking that's the 'Reich't idea. (Sorry for the bad pun,I'll show myself out,I don't need any escort.) [Yepp, I'm somewhat drunk at the moment.Tomorrow is payday and I don't have to drive, so we thought I'm allowed to be :D ]

[@oisnowy5368]

For the O's... think of the difference between the O in told and the OO in school. Let the sound linger a bit.

[@bencejuhasz6459]

@@oisnowy5368 Something like that, yes.

[@executivedirector7467]

@@bencejuhasz6459 The Vickers medium tank had a 3-man turret crew in the 1920s. British cruiser tanks had 3 man turret crews in 1939-40-41.... On the German side, only the Panzer 3 and 4 had 3 man turret crews, and those were a small (but obviously important) proportion of all german tanks until late 1940 when Panzer 3 production picked up.

[@funkyhetzer6624]

Why is this in the cursed tanks series? I just see a big tractor.

[@jamesocker5235]

Without the early failures success later would be less likely

[@americanpatriot2422]

Great video

[@restro3058]

TRAKTOR, TRAKTOR, AAAAAHHHH, TRAKTOR

[@NicoTheProtogen]

Well you know it’s cursed when it literally has gross in the name of

[@mrpaper9955]

Pls do a video on the m51 super shermans

[@amandabcful]

So secret that i only heard about this tank while playing Hearts of Iron 4

[@GarGhuul]

And now I’m wondering if we’ll be seeing an Ajax feature for Cursed by Design.

[@minimaster0328]

what dingus decided to name this "big tractor"

[@thecouchgamered2007]

i remember i once saw a leichtraktor in a t 10 game in wot blitz, ariund 8 years ago, absolutely fantastic

[@Axquirix]

I hadn't quite realised what the profile of this tank looked like. Look at its track shape from the side, then look at Games Workshop's recent Rogal Dorn Battle Tabk model. And people were comparing it to a Churchill lmao.

[@CaptainRhodor]

I was wondering why this thing looked so familiar, then you mentioned the two gun turret and it clicked. This thing evolved into the Nb.fz., didn't it?

[@lordcaptainteapot6143]

Yes it did

[@michaeltelson9798]

Not in particular to this vehicle but many of the panzer grey painted vehicles were not in a single color. These had blotches of a red brown paint. These patterns aren’t evident in many black and white photos as certain black and white film had a red bias. Red colors were either absent or muted heavily. This seems odd and not widely known. I found out about it as I build scale models. Red brown in particular is prone to it. It’s hard to find the articles on it, but they are there.

[@hypercomms2001]

04:59 This hull looks welded...

[@HarrisonZelreigel]

Hey man, if you are still interested in finding Tonks, I found a replica the the Tonk at the AAF Tank Museum in Danville, Virginia. It is on the far left side of the building (from the street). It is visible on Google Earth's street view.

[@FirstNameLastName-tg3rc]

Does anyone know the song that started at roughly 2:26?

[@jhonfloibelmiculob6581]

The tank looks like a British Mark I tank used in WW1

[@biddinge8898]

Dude I wish that amphibious vehicles became a trend

[@CIoudStriker]

Any chance of the Porsche Tiger getting a CBD episode? Only stuff on the poor kitten I've seen on your channel is about its performance in War Thunder.

[@ConeOfArc]

Yes it's on my list of things to cover just haven't gotten to it yet

[@daveybyrden3936]

@@ConeOfArc I would really like to know what it was like inside. As far as I can determine, its turret had no floor. Externally it resembled a Henschel Tiger turret but inside it must have had significant differences. An electric traverse motor, for example. It would be great if you could locate more information.

[@lastmonarchistproduction_253]

what happened to the grosstraktor that were made as monuments.

[@zero-0159]

Likely used by volkssturm as gate defense and destroyed by the Soviets

[@TheShockxwave]

You really didn’t have to trash my poor boy Ajax like that, he got hit on the head and child and has very special needs

[@fistofthetiger1591]

It seems to me that not many countries cared about the crew safety Factor. Even though the Sherman didn't have a hatch for the loader in the early variants, but the m4A3 did and I can't think of too many tanks that did besides Germany during World War ii.

[@Lt_Koro]

If anyone asks: We are just building some farming vehicles.

[@samwill7259]

Germany doing something illegal in war on the world stage? ...which time?

[@bobdickens3674]

did you just put call to arms ostfront music in the background

[@lafeelabriel]

Wasn't this the one with the commander in the hull?

[@triangleofdeath6246]

And to this day, Daimler still cant build transmissions!

[@Ghostmaxi1337]

9:07 Did that one get a bigger gun? What is that, 105?150?

[@notthecia4486]

That is in fact a gross tractor, thanks italy very cool

[@firstletterofthealphabet7308]

well it becomes less gross and more groß the nearer you get to germany

[@carloshenriquezimmer7543]

I believe that two of those were used as propaganda during the ocupation of the Low Countries. They were paraded at the streets to intimidate the locals into submiting to the germans after they had secured a region. They could be used for this purpose, because they were facing small armies there, without any adequate anti-tank capabilities at the beginnig. But as soon as the allies started the invasion they were retreated and later destroyed by theyr crews. I read that those were prototypes, not armoured, but fully operational. (don't remember the source, maybe Wikipedia)

[@joperamod5760]

their

[@Firestarg]

9:20 Noi-buh-fart-zoig with the poopenfarten-5 cannon

[@rixithyellas0621]

GROßTRAKTOR WILL RETURN!

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

It’s strange how these design elements are closer to Russian and never appeared on any other German vehicle aside from the pz1, instead they went with polygons

[@pepperonipizza3080]

St. Chamond video sometime?

[@AFinnGundam]

this video makes me want to play WoT PC again

[@Dreska_]

Why would they test the amphibious abilities fully crewed? Poor guy

[@jhoncho4x4]

Looks like a medium Char B1.

[@lx1995Mk2]

Porsche design complex no never

[@Cookiechipy]

There was propongda used tanks right?

[@mikhailiagacesa3406]

Now I can understand why the Red Army wanted heavier tanks, seeing the Germans playing with them.

[@P455w0rds]

NeubauFahrzeug 🤔

[@ukaszwalczak1154]

Interestingly enough, i made something similar in Paint. It's a 1919 Polish-Lithuanian tank doe, not German and interwar-

[@comentedonakeyboard]

Spokesoffice... erm i mean spokescivilservants for the Reichswehr insist that this is a fake tank episode.

[@CS_Uravity_PRO]

idk why but this tank is sexy af Shame there doesn't seem to be one survived till today..

[@Callsign_viper]

so a weird frog like b1 bis 🗿

[@thesnazzycomet]

the name loosely translates to "big boi"

[@blitzsturm5614]

As the elefant commanderin coh2 always said. Slowest porsche ever!

[@tyrelmatchett7967]

One of my favourites in WOT, love the penetration with he rounds

[@BrownPP46]

I dusted mine off last night to troll a bit. :)

[@wweminehead]

The King Tigers Great Grandad

[@Aristocles22]

You mean to tell me that because it's a medium tank instead of a heavy one, HOI IV got it wrong?! lol And since that's Hearts of Iron IV music playing, I know someone in this channel knows what I'm talking about.

[@garp9269]

i hope its going to be added to war thunder as like event vechicle

[@Kiefiron]

In WoTblitz we have this tank

[@Depipro]

A little pointer on pronunciation: it's VoroSHIlov, not VoRIshilov (word stress being the primary point, the precise vowel secondary).

[@jackmino729]

What's with the hate against the Ajax? It's still being prototyped

[@RedXlV]

It's already 5 years behind schedule, and apparently vibration issues are so bad as to be physically harmful to the crew.