Confucianism is Making a Comeback in China

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[@thecriticalscholar8680]

Can you please do a video on Orthodox Christianity?

[@torisantiago9176]

Wait don’t you usually post another video before getting back to the main subject. I think making a video on Yom Kippur and posting a video on Confucianism right after while talking about Heaven will cause too much confusion. You should take into account that most will mistakenly mix up the Chinese concept of Heaven and the Abrahamic god. You should be more mindful about this. You should’ve at least posted another religion topic before getting back to Confucianism

[@torisantiago9176]

A video on orthodox Christianity would’ve been more ideal before returning to Confucianism

[@markhenry9043]

@@torisantiago9176, I believe the reason for this video on this day is that September 28 is considered the birthday of Confucius.

[@torisantiago9176]

@@markhenry9043 oh okay I didn’t know

[@arivas4846]

Interesting that people are seeking Confucian wisdom to succeed in business, since Confucius hated merchants and thought they were much inferior to farmers.

[@adambomb30]

He probably thought merchants were middlemen parasites.

[@gwang3103]

I don't think Confucius hated merchants as such, only unscrupulous ones. If I'm not mistaken, one of Confucius' own students was a merchant.

[@nunyabidnis3815]

@@adambomb30 He might have been onto something, there..

[@chrismoreno7181]

Confucius place merchants below farmers and craftsmen. Because according to him, merchants dont produce anything to the state. The merchants he talked about was peddlers selling and buying goods from one place to another. While as peasants produce food that is vital to the state. It doesnt have anything to do with social class. It just show confucius value farmers more than travelling merchants.

[@auburntiger6829]

There's more to Confucianism (Ruism) than just Confucius, and within Confucianism there are different opinions on the role that merchants played in society.

[@theodixon3298]

4:27 Sounds similar to Japan's attempt to utilise Shinto as a national ideology. Japanese scholars argued that Christianity was often used to subvert populations and render countries more vulnerable to colonialism. Some believed that Japan needed its own 'national structure' in order to unify the state and strengthen it against foreign influence. Like in China, the Japanese also wanted to downgrade other traditions including Buddhism. Also like in China, the version of Shinto promoted by the state was different to the version of the religion which had historically been practiced.

[@BaronKrool]

Yep, was thinking the same thing.

[@bijtmntongaf]

i mean, they weren’t wrong were they? the christianization of places like the moluccas eventuslly made it much more vulnerable to dutch colonialism

[@kweassa6204]

It is. The 'renaissance' of Confucianism doesn't come from any kind of real advances, adaptations of the key philosophy under modern context, but rather as a means of an authoritarian push to the society as an ideological collar to be placed on the new generation. It's basically in the exact same context of how conservative Christians in the US say the country needs to "go back to its Christian values". . Confucianism, ultimately 'ordains' the state/legal authority of the people on the condition that the state and the system serve as a medium to guide the people toward a better life, as an agent of the heaven. When that purposed is corrupted into a justification of power for personal greed, the state loses the Mandate of Heaven, and is just grounds for the people to rise up and overthrow the government. --- the "renaissance" version of Chinese Confucian propaganda simply "CENSORS" this part to the people.

[@wazzup233]

Well at least in Japan when they're showing Shintoism on anime they didn't promote nationalistic and religious extremism on it and most of them have a blend of Westernization/modernist stories. In the case of China since the production of their anime series about the life of Confucius, it was blended with political propaganda from the CCP as part of their power grabbing and ultra-nationalistic awakening to the Chinese people just like some of their Chinese media platform, and that's alarming just like what Japan did during World War 2

[@ian_b]

@@wazzup233 You need to go back over a century. The Japanese state Theo's talking about was modelling itself on the developing fascist tendencies in Europe, and the nationalisation of Shinto was a central part of that. This process led to the monstrous Japanese regime of the 1930s.

[@darrishawks6033]

Fun fact: China had a period where they were debating about having a Confucian legal system vs a Legalist legal system. The Confucians and the Legalists mainly differed on whether and how much morals should play into the application of law. For example, the Legalists would say "Theft is theft." and give you a sentence, but the Confucians would ask "What did you steal? A book? That's an elegant crime. No punishment"

[@workingTchr]

I wonder how Confucius would feel about music, software, and video "piracy"?

[@darrishawks6033]

@@workingTchr I would guess that it depends on how productive and educational it is. Confucius was outspoken in his distaste for gaming

[@yeoseotidle2290]

He was at odds with Sun Tzu, who as we all know, was an elite gamer

[@outisnemo555]

What actually happened was that the two merged, with Confucianism being the moral philosophy and Legalism being the political philosophy. There’s a term for this in Chinese called “外儒内法” （Outwardly Confucian and Inwardly Legalist）.

[@JKTCGMV13]

I love that you post in the morning… this really is for breakfast

[@user-fg3xw6wd6i]

Asian fans got this video at midnight:(

[@JKTCGMV13]

@@user-fg3xw6wd6i I am sorry you cannot eat your Cheerios to this mans voice 😔 Even for myself, I’m already at work by time he posts so I’m not really eating my breakfast either. Do we know what timezone he’s posting from?

[@ReligionForBreakfast]

Late afternoon for me here in Cairo!

[@JKTCGMV13]

@@ReligionForBreakfast I never would’ve guessed! Hi from California 👋

[@barrydarrion4846]

1:17 am: checks out

[@TimBitten]

Confucius had a good premise: the leaders must exemplify goodness or they cannot expect goodness from the people, and it is better to be good than evil, because it results in more happiness and less hassle. Unfortunately, this logic only works if enough people are truly moved by its message and want to dedicate themselves to its practice, possibly at their own profits’ expense. I’ve long grappled with the “What is our basic human nature?” question. It is shaped by our cultures, and they are shaped by the survival and emotional needs of the various peoples, and the scope of their understandings. In the end, I’ve concluded that human nature is generally good, but that goodness is often easily overcome by cunning and ruthlessness. This is the central conflict of humanity; an unresolvable problem.

[@8ahau279]

Mozi thought the same, but contrary to Confuzius he believed we should not dicriminate with whom we love more or less.

[@ANDROLOMA]

The duty of "basic human nature" should be to reduce one's suffering and enhance one's pleasures during our brief existences together in this realm of reality we find ourselves in. In my honest, humble opinion, which may wind up mistaken in the end. At least I'm honest enough to call my theory a theory.

[@llamalord89]

An astute exemplary observation; indeed.

[@aristocrocseerofaeons8268]

What's more, is that Confucianism also goes along with the Just World Fallacy, since it presupposes the idea of an external moral force in the form of Heaven and 'the Mandate of Heaven'. In short, an unfair ruler is supposed to draw misfortune on himself through his evil deeds, like earthquakes, hurricanes, poor harvests, and bad luck in war and diplomacy. To its' credit, though, Confucianism did emphasize the importance of education, qualifications through an examination (best during the Song Dynasty), and did (sometimes) provide a rationale for the people to rebel against an unfair ruler, since a ruler was supposed to be fair to his people. Then again, in a good system, rebellions should not be the "go-to solution" in the first place, and how many rulers in world history have admitted to being bad and changed their ways? (only Ashoka, the Indian Buddhist emperor, comes to mind...)

[@TimBitten]

@@aristocrocseerofaeons8268 I’ve always held Truth and Reason as equally the highest moral good (codependent on each other for existence), but I’m not sure I mind a superstition like the one you describe…unless and until it morphs into some nutty dogma the corrupt and ruthless then use to scare and control the people for their own self-service. I don’t know. Maybe some degree of magical thinking is unavoidable and even necessary for society to function cohesively. I’m a pragmatist at heart and know not everything can be ideal. Education is certainly the backbone of a flourishing society. Of that much I’m very confident, and agree with you that Confucian teaching also elevates it highly. There’s really a lot to admire in The Analects, subtracting away some of the more questionable parts of the teachings until we’re left with the more solid stuff. My life has personally benefited from several of the Confucian proverbs.

[@jmpht854]

I was still living in the PRC when they started putting statues of Confucius up at the middle schools in my city. The people in charge in such countries are nothing if not transparent 😂

[@madhavdeval]

I'd love to see a religion for breakfast video on the different "Hindu reform" movements that emerged during the colonial era- Arya samaj, brahmo samaj. The Confucian reforms in 100 day reforms reminded me of them, in that they're very Protestant inspired reinterpretations of so called "ancient" roots

[@Jaechhetai]

Well others r vaishnavism of chaitanya and ramkrishna, vivekananda😁

[@faithlesshound5621]

Some Hindu reformers were full-on with the religious mumbo-jumbo, but others were more social reformers who realised that to get anywhere at the grass roots you had to appear pious, besides which piety kept the colonial police away. Something similar happens in the US, where reformers of differing stripes, both progressive and reactionary, find it helpful to wear their collars backwards.

[@ShirleeKnott]

so glad i found this channel. your wisdom has helped me in many ways of growth. just don't get why there aren't many more subs. i scroll down liking all comments and replies while listening to help the algorithm.

[@vertdragoon]

Listened to this on my way to work! Thank you for the excellent, thoughtful content. You’ve really created a rapport of trust.

[@ramentaco9179]

I love this channel so much, one of the best on KZbin for learning

[@learningwithharry4996]

Great explanation and analysis. Thank you.

[@justinb.5277]

Chinese govt: "Let's endorse Confucianism!" Citizens: ***accepts Confucianism*** Government: "ok, that's enough of that, it might become a threat to us..." 😑🤦

[@shzarmai]

The CCP in a nutshell

[@SVTDI]

Well depends, Confucianism is a national unity factor for China now.

[@hello-ox5rf]

The only religion you're really allowed to have is growing 😲

[@ICCraider]

@@hello-ox5rf Yep! At this pace the CCP would run out of organs to harvest.

[@sw36jl]

Your an idiot, CCP is encouraging it. Confucianism teaches social harmony and obedience to the state. Serves the perfectly and it is the reason why most Chinese Dynasties after winning turn to Confucianism rather than legalism.

[@brendanwatroba8568]

Could you do a video on Philosophical vs Religious Taoism?

[@ReligionForBreakfast]

There's a 3 episode series on Taoism in the works. Episode 1 will cover this topic. Buddhism series will launch first in October - November. You can expect Taoism early 2022.

[@brendanwatroba8568]

@@ReligionForBreakfast amazing! Thank you so much for all that you do! Comparative Religion is an endlessly fascinating subject!

[@sycen]

If you're Chinese either live in China or in other countries you'll know that Confucianism never left

[@vonn2221]

Can you share about religion (buddhism and daoism) and confusius philosophy in china big modern city and in china village? Do the religions and stuff more popular in city or village? And how modern city peiple see about china traditional religion?

[@sycen]

@@vonn2221 sorry. I don't live in China

[@MrLegarcia]

+1 This is the video that had me to subscribe. Great content! Thanks.

[@ssn139]

It's a bit of a nit pick, but when the British took control of Hong Kong it wasn't a key trade port, but was a sparsely inhabited, rocky island. It was next to a very important trade port, Guangzhou (aka Canton). But Hong Kong only became a trade hub after the British took possession, and even then it was in large part thanks to its proximity to Guangzhou.

[@gregcampwriter]

Given Confucianism's devotion to the state and conformity to order, any government can make use of it.

[@ilyamuromets5188]

You...are thinking of Legalism.

[@gregcampwriter]

@@ilyamuromets5188 I'm thinking of what I said I was thinking about.

[@kky-jd3xj]

Confucianism teaches loyalty to the state only if the state is loyal to the people. The ruler-subject relationship is reciprocal, and the subject is encouraged to rebel against their ruler if the ruler doesn't do their part in a relationship. Legalism is the philosophy that says "follow the law, no matter what it says".

[@HighPriestFuneral]

@@kky-jd3xj Entirely correct, to go a step further... Duke Ding asked, "“Is there a single saying that can destroy a state?” Confucius replied, “No saying can have such an effect, but there is one that comes close: There is a saying, ‘There is nothing I love more about being a ruler than that no one contradicts me.’ If a ruler were fine and none contradicted him, that would be fine indeed; if he were not a good ruler and none contradicted him, then would this not come close to a single saying destroying a state?" Confucius felt that the ruler could not be absolute because of the potential for poor rulers to appear. The ministers and the people all had their part to play to make society a better place.

[@queenbee7266]

@@kky-jd3xj yea except Confucianism is notoriously easy to halfass as Zhuangzi had ridiculed. I mean look at Chinese history for example. It WAS supposed to be reciprocal, but didn't fare that way did it? People will cherry pic from philosophy unless you have barriers enforced to stop people from cherry picking. another example is filial piety, which was supposed to be reciprocal but look at it now...boomers.

[@paiwanhan]

The ROC, or rather the many different regimes that controlled the ROC from 1911 to 1949, especially the KMT and those who claimed to be Sun Yat-sen's followers, were not anti-Confucius at all. Using Lu Sun's article to represent the viewpoint of the Chinese government at the time is misleading, since Lu had been an admirer of the Soviets since at least 1934. SYS himslef worked closely with the Soviets, but in his own writings, he often lauded Confucian ideals. He believed his principles were capable of achieving the Confucian Utopian vision of the Great Unity (大同), and make the nation belong to the public (天下為公). The ROC certainly didn't systematically suppress Confucian teachings like the PRC. Instead, selected Confucian classics are required study materials in school.

[@vertigq5126]

The economic connection in the 80’s is a really interesting point. Thanks for a great video, God bless you!

[@nestormakhno9266]

We were just talking about this in my world religions class lol

[@anotheryoutubeuser]

I wonder if you would be interested in doing a video about Confucianism's influence on the major monotheistic traditions. Perhaps you could start with the Han Kitab tradition that incorporated elements of Confucianism and Daoism, manifesting in China around the 15th century. Great video, by the way!

[@oxy8821]

Great content every time ik its good with out watching yet!

[@jdmbapastor5172]

For one of your next Western, Monotheistic Religions videos, can you discuss St. John of the Cross's Dark Night of the Soul and the juxtaposition between loss of faith and faith renewal? The cases where people walk away from (or at least deeply challenge the efficacy of) a faith tradition to only embrace it again latter are extremely interesting to me. I'm interested to hear if there is any academic research into this. In my experience, U.S Christian traditions tend to "excommunicate" people--though not always formally--who waiver in their faith. Then, said congregations have little desire to address the deep seated faith crisis that the person goes through--chalking any "loss" as the person's own personal failings.

[@DanKaraJordan]

St. John's work is less about a modern sense of loss of faith, and more about a profound mystical experience (kenosis), which is an inner hollowing out and loss of self where even the sense of God as wholeness collapses into a sense of God as nothingness. Whereas a modern loss of faith is typically due to apathy or frustration with religious organizations and conceptual understandings of dogma, the St. John's Dark Night is due to a profound reorientation of one's direct experience of God and self, which is internally devastating and which leaves no ground to stand on. There is overlap between the two, but I would be worried about cheapening the religious experience of St. John by simply equating the two experiences.

[@garlottos]

@@DanKaraJordan Sounds like Jung's experiences

[@Birdinandpo]

Thanks!

[@claesvanoldenphatt9972]

Confucianism in contemporary China, especially as promoted and interpreted by officialdom, seems to represent conservatism in a specifically Chinese form. It reminds me of the image of Orthodoxy promoted by the Russian State, and Islam in Iran. I think Aleksandr Dugin would have a lot to say about the commonalities between the three state religions. In the West, by contrast there seems to be no official enthusiasm for anything besides individualism. This engenders a centripetal societal force in the West making for a lot of social tension and a metaphysical vacuum. Into this vacuum springs cultish appeals to conservatism and extreme religiosity, even fascism as an antidote to liberalism as it’s popularly understood in the promotion of individualism.

[@oneringtorulethemagicarp7199]

except for the fact most of christianity is deeply conservitive

[@claesvanoldenphatt9972]

@@oneringtorulethemagicarp7199 yet it constitutionally has no establishment in relation to the American state and the established churches of Europe exert very minimal authority. The arrangement in the west is a product of Reformation and Enlightenment which is a secular process relegating religion to the personal sphere, whereas the Russian Orthodox world is built on Byzantine Symphonia of Church and state. Iran is a straight theocracy. China has a strange relationship with conservatism and liberalism.

[@faithlesshound5621]

@@claesvanoldenphatt9972 In all of these countries, religion is for show and what our rulers believe (apart from getting rich) is some kind of fundamentalist economic doctrine resembling that of Milton Friedman. In most of these countries economists get the kind of public deference formerly given to bishops.

[@SamuelJohnsonTime]

Love your videos! Would you ever do a video on the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn? Or Hermeticism in general?

[@JohnnyDrivebye]

Confucius say "He who stand on toilet high on pot." Yeah I know. I'll let myself out.

[@lorrainefrost8296]

An excellent presentation. I've learned so much!

[@ReneeAnon-ebooks-music]

Thanks for clear explanations.

[@thecriticalscholar8680]

What a great video!

[@JulianApostate]

Brilliant video, as usual

[@ShangDiAboveGodhood]

@16:16 This is not completely honest. What you're leaving out is that the statues were removed in order to revive the _oldest_ original practice of using 鬼神位 (Tablets for Ancestors, Ghosts, Spirits). It already existed in The Holy Sage's day, and moreover the oldest depiction of Confucius we ever have is curiously faceless/face-effaced.

[@auburntiger6829]

Great video! Just one feedback on the translation of Kongjiao and Rujiao: Jiao in the Chinese language did not actually refer to a religion or philosophy. The idea that they are different entities came after contacts with Europeans. In the past, "jiao" simply meant "teaching," hence "the teaching of Confucius" and "the teaching of the Ru."

[@GrimrDirge]

3,000? It's China, that's like a slow day.

[@tkyap2524]

It's a guide to live a decent life. A sage because of his influence.

[@pnkcnlng228]

I love your videos. Can you make some videos about Hinduism? I am a Hindu convert and I would love to see videos like this about my religion!

[@msvh-l9616]

Hinduism is a cancerous cult

[@robbabcock_]

Fascinating!

[@RoseNZieg]

as someone who has been following news of social problems in china for years now, i never thought confucianism was gone. it was half of the problems.

[@tokun9629]

I don't know, but a mere 3 thousand people at a major religious ceremony doesn't seem like a whole lot even on my modest European scale. And on the scale of China, that's really insignificant, isn't it?

[@ShangDiAboveGodhood]

An extremely common misconception @4:08. Most precisely, 儒教 never _meant_ "Confucianism" to begin with - but rather the hybrid Sacred-&-Secular Religio-Philosophical *Scholasticism.* The reason we even use 'Confucianism' at all is because of _Europe's_ initial misunderstanding and analogy to christianity (the person implied being yeshua, in this case.). Hence, historically, 儒教 was mistranslated to "Confucianism" which then got recalqued into Chinese as 孔教. Ergo, 孔教 is a *denomination* _within_ 儒教 as opposed to a synonym. It is 儒教 with an emphasis on 孔夫子 (since The Sage himself was already a 儒 in the yet-older already-existent 儒教 of his day).

[@HighPriestFuneral]

Indeed! Were there a founder of the Rujia, it would probably be considered Zhou Gong (Duke of Zhou) rather than Confucius, who saw himself as only a member of an already established school of thought. (Though he did greatly expand certain ideas.)

[@ShangDiAboveGodhood]

@@HighPriestFuneral In fact, 🙏姬旦褒德文憲王周文公🙏 was still Pre-儒教. If Precision is desired (ah, that Lofty Noble Tenet of 正名!), then 儒 Predate 儒教 since we know they featured in Scripture as a rank among others: 《周禮•天官冢宰•六五》『以九兩系邦國之民：一曰牧，以地得民。二曰長，以貴得民。三曰師，以賢得民。四曰儒，以道得民。五曰宗，以族得民。六曰主，以利得民。七曰吏，以治得民。八曰友，以任得民。九曰藪，以富得民。』 In fact, a common point of vexation that buddhists feel in debating me is when I remind them that True 三教 originally referred to Our 夏殷周 Denominations: 《白虎通德論•卷七•三教•一》『王者設三教何？承衰救弊，欲民反正道也。三王之有失，故立三教，以相指受。夏人之王教以忠，其失野，救野之失莫如敬。殷人之王教以敬，其失鬼，救鬼之失莫如文。週人之王教以文，其失薄，救薄之失莫如忠。繼週尚黑，制與夏同。三者如順連環，周而復始，窮則反本。 』 So we know 🙏姬旦褒德文憲王周文公🙏 is still part of the Late Old Faith at this point in time prior to 戰國時代-Denominationalization. The same Old Faith I try to practice as best I can in this very strange, unfamiliar Modern Age...

[@HighPriestFuneral]

@@ShangDiAboveGodhood Thanks for sharing your views, they are quite interesting. I'm afraid my Chinese isn't quite good enough to entirely understand everything there, but I think I understood the basic part of it. I suppose I should have addressed why I felt Zhou Gong was a... spiritual member of the Rujia. It certainly does seem that the philosophy was not well codified in his own time but the ideals he put forth, such as an attempted check on the ruler's powers, the observance of a mandate that can be lost with poor handling of the country, proper observance of expectations, and steadfast benevolent behavior towards his young ruler are all things that future Rujia would look up to and something Kongzi, in particular, praised heavily.

[@TheBopRock]

what a great channel : )

[@tompatterson1548]

I did not expect the self help books

[@dhammapalatan360]

Confucianism was actually organised as a religion by Indonesian Chinese community and was known as "Agama Konghuchu", their places of worship is called "Litang" and the Confucian Analects are their scriptures. They worship Tian as their highest deity and Confucius and the founder of their faith. The religion was banned and heavily discriminated in the past but has been recognized by their government nowadays. Confucianism was also promoted in Taiwan by Kuomintang government during Chiang Kai Shek's era, there are quite a number of Confucian temples in various part of Taiwan funded by their government and local communities. The Confucian rituals still continued by the students from their local schools. The twenty-four parables of filial piety are commonly found depicting on the walls of Chinese temples throughout Chinese Overseas communities including Taiwan, it was an important tool to impart morality to the devotees and the local communities in olden days.

[@leafzuk]

Is there a link available for the animated series from China? Thank you

[@christianmartinez774]

It's interesting that they are going back to old religions and ideologies to combat the outcome of medernity, being individualism and isolation. It seems this trend is happening all over the world were industrialisation is reaching modernity.

[@bandygamy5898]

Cubans are turning to Santeria more sd well (Swedish state radio had a program about this)

[@Lightscribe225]

Even more interesting since less than a decade ago they blamed conficianism as one of the reasons China was so stagnant when Europe started selling them drugs

[@andyaquitaine4225]

At the risk of badly explaining not fully formed thoughts, while also not totally awake or sober, I figure that the technology didnt come alone, but came with the cultures they came from as well. What’s probably happening now is that with everyone roughly on (roughly) the same page technologically and culturally everyone is outgrowing the western/American influence and starting to take the new stuff their own way again. Kinda like if you spent all your time learning to emulate someone or kick their ass. Or considering the last century and a half, both.

[@proger1960]

@@Lightscribe225 I mean it was one of the reasons why it was stagnant, Confucianism sadly indirectly prohibits innovation due to it’s strict nature.

[@HighPriestFuneral]

@@proger1960 That's an older reading, yes. It wasn't meant to be interpreted in that way, to paraphrase some quotes. "Be steadfast, but not rigid". "There are certain trends which are good and healthy, but traditions still have their worth." "Exemplary sayings are great but adapting them is the most important part." It was supposed to adapt, which it did for quite some time, but around the 12th century it started to fall into a malaise which it never quite recovered from as the Lixue (Neo-Confucianism) made the Rujia into a more religious and metaphysical aspect than it had been considered before (some may consider this a form of adaptation). There were some great masters with some interesting individual thought, but as the Qing dynasty progressed, so too did reform die on the lips of ministers.

[@babsbylow6869]

I have a goofy admission. When I was a kid and first heard the name I thought it was 'confuse us'. So, it was about confusing people? 😆

[@bobertjones2300]

You are certainly confused, so it appears to have worked on you. Confucianism strives for clarity and propriety.

[@babsbylow6869]

@@bobertjones2300 I now know a bit about it. I think I was about nine when I misheard the name. Something strangely humourous about it though. I generally find most religions confusing now, and I'm a boomer! 😄

[@bobertjones2300]

@@babsbylow6869 Most religions are confusing as they are based on a god of their misunderstanding. I continue to study religions as a non-believer. Peace to you in your journey.

[@babsbylow6869]

@@bobertjones2300 Thank you good Sir. I too am a nonbeliever. I swear, I've put more effort onto learning about religion than I ever did when I thought I knew all the answers. Go figure. Be well. We all deserve eudamonia

[@thorandlundeve]

on your left, is that ibn khaldun. because ibn khaldun always reminding me of confucius

[@stevenv6463]

Does anyone have a link to the Confucius cartoon? It looks like it could help my Chinese.

[@insulaarachnid]

This was great

[@theunclejesusshow8260]

Greetingz cuzin🪂🧙‍♂️

[@shaggycan]

Wow glad to see the Kong family still lives on.

[@sodadrinker89]

One of the few families that can trace their lineage to Antiquity.

[@darrishawks6033]

It seems appropriate that the state wants to direct Confucianism because of how much deference Confucius gave to the state. The hierarchy clearly put the state on top. Like "You have to serve the state, but the state has to serve you, too"

[@Roman-Pregolin]

could mention how much rujiao was criticized after the 1911 Xinhai revolution, Lu Xun etc.

[@pedrovieira-ri7lk]

that´s interresting.

[@brenersantosdasilva6501]

Make a video about brazilian candomblé and umbanda, please.

[@eg4848]

Religion in general growing there. Will be interesting to say the least

[@altinmares8363]

Please do more videos about -Tengrism -Anthropomorphic greek gods -Idolatry

[@SavageHenry777]

Do a video on Falun Gong.

[@ethanjames1316]

Can you please do a Hermeticism video?

[@DavidMartin-lg7tf]

Hey can u do a video on Titans from the abrahamic religions and the “Golden age”?

[@cinnamondan4984]

Live in China. Confucians has indeed become popular.

[@hiruzenmonofuke7344]

Confucianism is not a different religion but is part of the Chinese traditional religion.

[@user-ox6hj6bm3t]

Excellent. Please make a video on Taoism

[@michaelgrant7279]

A very interesting fact is that one major reason why so much attention is paid to Confucius is that his work is mostly extant. Shi Huang Di, the first Emperor of China ordered a purge of all books that were not on farming or science. After he died, they brought out what books survived. Many were of Confucian thought. So a part of this is purely coincidence.

[@prajnaparamitahrdaya]

Not really, there were others left but all burned after war. Confuciusism was modified and glorified during Han dynasty for the purpose of brainwashing the society.

[@user-sx1mm1sl6u]

The Chad Shi Huang Di.

[@wliaputs]

There's God’s will in the play. Why did Confucianism books survive but not others?

[@HighPriestFuneral]

@@wliaputs A bit of an overstatement. Other books did survive the Burning of the Books, but Confucianism (Rujia) had already gained a pretty strong following by that time and there were some experts who remembered it word-for-word and after Qin was demolished, they set about writing it down from memory. About 100 years later other early works were found, hidden in a wall, and this sparked a great debate in China regarding the authenticity of that corpus of works (in about 100 BCE), which still continues from time to time. Though nowadays we have a nearly accepted canon. Even to this day we are finding some older works in ancient tombs, excitingly a thought to be lost version of The Analects was found in a tomb only several years ago.

[@David-by8wt]

Confucianism is always in the every day lives of the Chinese people. The way you present it as if it is like a religion that people can choose to follow or not, it is not a religion but a "social system". You are looking from the outside and make criticism base of what you believe you understand, and that in it self is only skin deep. Confucianism never went away, it was always there simply because it is part of every day lives. What you have done is to use history to express an overview and therefore, draw a conclusion base on a very shallow comprehension.

[@micromikael4806]

to be fair, Isn't religion still a social system in many way.

[@David-by8wt]

@@micromikael4806 no, religion is a belief while social system is the way you socialise with others, like greeting and conversation and social structure. Both influence behaviours in a different way and will have different results. So you can many group of people behaving differently in a society.

[@micromikael4806]

@@David-by8wt but don't you still have to have belief to that social system for it to work? i get it can be diferent in premise, but in practise it isnt much diferent in them as far as i can see. i mean, dont you have to believe in the idea of money for it to work in practise?

[@David-by8wt]

@@micromikael4806 No, its not true. A belief is something different to something that works. You don't need to have belief for finance to work. But religion won't work on you if you don't believe in God. A social system is a structure of the society. Chinese don't have to believe in God (religiously) for the system to work. However, the system is overlapped with Daoism, therefore, there are many similar practices.

[@Andy-bb2eo]

儒家不被称为宗教是因为他的教义和基督教伊斯兰教等等的教义都是完全不一一样的。 儒家反对任何超自然力量和神灵。就没法叫他宗教。绝对理性和现世主义。主张自己掌握命运。 没有牧师没有传教士也没有教堂，也没有冥想祈祷等等。但他主导东亚人的精神世界和行为规范。

[@Aakhv]

Would you do a video on Kemetism too?

[@pbac9570]

Come up with new and innovative methods of tackling problems? Humans: No

[@meocean5499]

If you think modern Confucianism is not innovative or that the Chinese lack the capacity of adapting ancient philosophies to modern problems. Then, you’re just ignorant

[@pbac9570]

@@meocean5499 never said it wasn't innovative and I know what it is. I'm suggesting maybe we invest more time into figuring out problems than just blanket falling back on traditionalist belief systems.

[@practicalpen1990]

I can't track my ancestors past the 19th Century, and Confucius' descendants have kept track of their ancestry for 2-and-a-half MILLENIA. WOW.

[@faithlesshound5621]

I wonder about the alleged Confucian principle that the Ruler must be good, since it clashes with what we know of their mostly having been bad as far as their personal conduct went. As in the West many rulers preferred to be feared than to be loved. In early modern Europe we had Machiavelli, who certainly did not promote ethical behaviour: he seems to have been studied in high places at the same time that his book "The Prince" was officially condemned. President Macron of France was a scholar of Machiavelli. One of the intellectual lights of British Conservatism, the 19th century prime minister Lord Salisbury, went so far as to say that the moral principles that govern our private behaviour should play no part in guiding the actions of government. Businessmen have long followed that rule, and nowadays we have extended that indulgence to the private lives of our rulers also.

[@ran__-_5183]

Wasn't Moa and the Communists' strategy of recruiting rural peasentry influenced by Confusius's veneration of farmers or was that just a coincidence? I had a modern world history teacher who sort of connected these together.

[@billyjack42]

I always figured it had to do with them being less informed than the urban population at the time, and thus more easily manipulated.

[@chancekahle2214]

Communist revolution has always been led by workers and supported by the peasantry. Communist propaganda around the world emphasizes the importance of that worker/peasant alliance. So no, Confucius had nothing to do with it.

[@Anubisdream1]

I’m curious if this trend is in any way connected to the recent government crackdown on “morals and ethics” among business and media industries.

[@sebastiannechita4483]

Will you make videos about UFO religions and Falun Gong?

[@faithlesshound5621]

Falun Gong? That's dangerous talk! You can expect a cyber attack from China. Rupert Murdoch's media won't touch them with a bargepole.

[@0verd0semedia]

Damn, dude.

[@TheTb2364]

Have you seen "The Last Church" animation?

[@ashishmantri3684]

Confucius never died out in the psyche of china and over course of leadership in china since centuries. Figures like Christ , Buddha ,Confucius Lao Tzu and Ram never die ,they always are retained in the psyche of the world for its present and for the future. They are universal in their teachings.

[@mnk9073]

Smart, Confucius himself was basically an Apparatchik and his core teachings only need a little trimming on the edges to fit socialism with Chinese characteristics like a glove.

[@nathancrever5161]

This is some good news.

[@Stadtpark90]

Now that’s a family tree: 2500 years…

[@francescobar9052]

Confucian morality is based on a series of balances: filial love is balanced by paternal care, the subjects' obedience is balanced by the ruler's devotion to their welfare, etc. It sounds great but we must remember that one side (the obligations of those in a subaltern role) is enforced by law and power, the other side depends just on the 'good heart' of those in a position of authority (and on occasional revolts). At the end Confucianism, in spite of all its apparent depth and wisdom, is nothing more than another authoritarian philosophy.

[@Flymoki13]

there are many virtues central to Confucian dialogue including mutual respect, honesty, bright heart, love for each other... Powerful Authorities dishonoring Confucianism for his own sake doesn't mean the rest of people would have to agree... remember China is an infinite cycle of Mandate of Heaven, the rulers who failed to achieve benevolence and good care of the people, had to suffer the same destiny as French Tyranny

[@undertaker9991]

To denounce a mileanna old socio-philosophy simply because its "old" you wouldve abandon years and years of reliable, examplary, and overall known benevolent knowledge.

[@henryvolk1077]

Would you considered doing a video on Western/Boston/North American Confucianism?

[@Raiin-mf2ku]

Jeez... what a confucion...

[@grute76]

Wonderful Video My Friend But Do Not Think You Fooled Me Swapping Yourself With Your Twin At 17:36

[@MasticinaAkicta]

Interesting So many changes, so quickly, so much is happening in China. I wonder what the party finds of that

[@davidegaruti2582]

@Pennyroyal Tea ye , they have learned not to suppress religion , instead incorporating it in the struggle , like the americans with "in god we trust"

[@TheScotsalan]

I live in China, and religion is being more tightly controlled. For example, where I live, it was common to see ppl burning stuff to their ancestors. Thats being stopped in the name of pollution control. Last week I saw a woman lay out a food table for ancestors in the street, but that was in an out the way place. Public shows of religion are frowned upon now. Esp under Xi.

[@TheScotsalan]

As an add. I know a couple of buddhists. If they are practicing they need to be registered. They need do exams under monks, and they get a passport style book. Interesting part is, the monks have to manage it. But the guv say, any registerd buddhist can go to any buddhist site, get free entry, and if the desire, full hospitality. The monks cant refuse. So of course, the monks tend to be carefull over who they allow in. Ohh, of course, all buddhists need party permission to be reincarnated. 😂👍

[@vineetv]

Could you do smthng good on hinduism

[@undertaker9991]

He messed up by forgetting that Confucius forbade forcing personal beliefs on others. Hence the golden rule. Confucius also forbade severe punishment out of disciplinary reasons.

[@srdjan455]

So when can we expect the mandate of heaven to come back

[@Comrade2face]

Confusionism sounds confusing, what is it all about?

[@thea-na]

(serious answer) order.

[@matthewvilla3958]

Does anyone know this guy's name? I'm trying to quote him for a school project.

[@GhostWarmth]

More and more people are becoming confused.

[@mzavros]

You mean right Maow?

[@michaelcardinal4907]

Hey, love your videos! I recently heard of an idea that Archangel Michael and Jesus are the same being, and in my 8 years of Catholic schooling I had never heard that so I’d love to see where that comes from and learn more about it maybe as a video topic idea! Have a good day!

[@Manoatevarua]

Because as Catholics we don’t believe in that. This belief is held by Jehovah’s Witnesses

[@michaelcardinal4907]

@@Manoatevarua that’s what I’ve heard, I’m curious what that belief is based upon as I’m sure they have a reason to believe that, some sort of interpretation of scripture, etc.

[@Manoatevarua]

@@michaelcardinal4907 Idk, they also believe that Jesus died on a stake for some odd reason. They believe that holidays and birthdays lead people astray from God. They have side writings/scriptures from their "Watchtower" which they believe are just as important as the Bible. Basically, they’re very different from other Christians.

[@timurermolenko2013]

@@Manoatevarua they don't place watchtower above Bible. They ignore all Celebrations but the night before Jesus' execution, and none others. Many highly religious groups avoid secular holidays. They're not much different from others other than not accepting trinity

[@Manoatevarua]

@@timurermolenko2013 But you MUST accept the Trinity, the Trinity is the nature of God, if you don’t accept it then you don’t worship God the way he intended.

[@BMWE90HQ]

What about Confucianism in Taiwan?

[@ANDROLOMA]

Confucianism: older than Christianity, not a Jewish schism, and more honest by avoiding claims of the supernatural.

[@georgewcy]

Can’t help but LOL

[@helenp.s95]

And so is Christianity

[@j7bsecond540]

Sad :(

[@TIENxSHINHAN]

From what I've read about Confucianism, it has a lot of really weird, toxic aspects and the communist party were kinda justified in not liking it. It's a religion that created social caste systems across East Asia and caused a lot of inequalities that exist in Asia today.

[@luislozano6073]

It's funny how sometimes AMH gets his American side like "failure of state funded projects" as if it was the solely reason of the failure of Confucius movie

[@YaminoSeigi]

Confucianism is popular in East Asia because they offer the best option for Stability which is a godsend when a regime came out of bloody civil war. However this doctrine is also the main reason of stagnation due to lack of social mobility and nepotism when the ruler is weak.

[@ANTSEMUT1]

Eeeeeh not really, it just didn't have the innate tools or the motivation to tackle privilege other than opening the state administrator exam to the public. They are plenty of important confucian scholars who came from nothing because the the state administrator exam was open to anyone. The thing is it was easier for the wealthy to get the best confucian tutoring and therefore easier to pass the state administrator exams. This was made worse during the Qing dynasty, by modifying confucian text to be interpreted even more authoritarian.

[@YaminoSeigi]

@@ANTSEMUT1 In my opinion imperial exam is a tool mainly used by ruling dynasty to keep common populace in check by offering a dream of social mobility. Sure some people from disadvantaged background could make use of imperial exam to climb up social ladder but that's not the primary purpose Unless an individual is talented, chances of that person pass the exam and get somewhere with it is almost slim to none. This particular pattern has been quite consistent from the inception of imperial exam until the present modern China

[@ANTSEMUT1]

@@YaminoSeigi i don't disagree with you exactly, but I don't think it's the main tool they use to do that.