😯 CONFUSED - Tim Holtz Woodless Pencils - MY FIRST impression & comparison with other crayons

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[@MaremiSmallArt]

I wonder what your thoughts are about the crayons ? Do you have them ? Will you be getting them ? 🖍️ Have I swatched them incorrectly and not received expected distress effect ?

[@MicheleEngel]

Crayons contain wax. Pencils don’t. Comparing his Distress Pencils to the various crayons doesn’t seem fair. Compare the pencils to other WATERCOLOR pencils (for example, Prisma or other brands).

[@user-cg9qd5ws6y]

These are actually woodless watercolor PENCILS and not watercolor crayons. Because they are woodless, they definitely look more like crayons, which I think can cause a bit of confusion. I wonder if you would differently about these if you compared them to other watercolor pencils? Because here it seems like you are expecting them to behave and feel more like watercolor crayons. I think this is why you are saying they are more hard and dusty and not creamy as you are expecting them to be. Hope that makes sense 😃

[@RinasAMaker]

There’s actually a single pencil sold separately that you’re missing, the last Distress color - Scorched Timber. I have the first three sets and never think to even use them so I haven’t bothered getting the last 3 sets. These are pencils, not crayons. His “crayons” are the ones you said you didn’t like because they were “waxey”. These should be compared to what they are, watercolor pencils. 🤷‍♀️

[@HappyCatastrophy]

These are my favorite mediums besides Copics. Treat them like paint on a stick…they are pure pigment. not crayons or pencils

[@christianeeichler6919]

Loved to see the comparison. I think that you can get professional sets of watercolor pencils for the same, or almost the same money. In Germany the Tim Holtz pencils are about 30 € per set, so for 72 you pay 180. That's way more than a professional grade Watercolor pencil set of the same size! For Albrecht Dürer watercolor pencils you pay about 100 € for a 60 set. That is 2.50 vs 1.67 € per pencil, if you buy sets. From what I see from your swatches many colors are very similar. I have very inexpensive watercolor pencils by Koh-I-Noor, a 36 set, which for me is really enough, as it is easy to mix colors for new ones. I don't use them that often anyways. As crayons I have Neocolors II, bought only a few of my favourite colors open stock.

[@daryllynn5406]

Please don't cut your stabilo! In my opinion, all art is precious.

[@candyclouston1412]

Comparing the volume of a Stabilo Woodie to a Distress Watercolor pencil isn't that useful. Which has more pigment? Which would create the longest line before running out? My Stabilos (same as Woodies, but much older and in a set with more colors than currently sold) are softer. Oranges and tangerines are both orange-colored fruit, but we don't expect them to be the same. Just because they differ doesn't mean one is "better." With media, one might be better for a specific application, but not universally. For people who rely on the Distress inks and paints and stains, that the pencils are color matched as closely as possible might make them a better choice. People who want to draw with bold strokes might prefer Woodies.

[@mariac4602]

I never heard of the Tim Holtz distress watercolor pencils. I thought the pigment was pretty rich and I like that you can go back and add in hard lines. It would be fun to see you complete a few small paintings using these and layering them.

[@suzannagrove7259]

careful with your voice, yes the swatching and comparing is helpdul

[@joycegifford8826]

I made my shavings into a watercolour palette using full trays in a tin. For that alone they are worth the money. Blending is so much easier when turning the shavings into a watercolour palette. Tiffany Soloria has a video on doing this.

[@cazkiwinz4300]

I always feel calm when I hear your voice 🫶

[@caroline1426]

Glad you brought us along on the swatching, we enjoy your company as well as what you’re doing in your vids x

[@lalamalo]

Thank you for this swatch session. I had the first 3 sets and sold them because I really love the neo color II much more. I also like the woody, 🖍️

[@triciagray4791]

I love these have the first 3 sets and waiting to get the 3 others, my favorite way to use them is taking a wet brush on the pencil itself and using it that way. My favorites for sure.

[@kristimckinnon2133]

I'm glad you showed these, I've been considering them.

[@cindipatton1639]

There have been other woodless watercolor pencils in the past (I have a set), but there is only one brand recently listed at one of the major US art supply store (Blick's). They are Creatacolor Aqua...and they're made in Austria! You may have an easier time getting access to these than some other art supplies. I would say the Tim Holtz watercolor pencils are more of a craft item rather than fine art. Not sure where Creatacolor fits in the mix, but they are cheaper than the TH version. I believe we are paying more for the TH version because of all the work that went into matching the pencils with the TH inks--and for the TH branding. I make a lot of cards, and having a watercolor source that matches the TH line of inks, etc., was my ONLY reason for purchasing. FYI: True watercolor pencils are not engineered to smudge.

[@MelsCardCorner]

Loved seeing you swatch all of the colors!! I have the first three sets of these pencils, but haven't gotten the new sets yet to round out my collection. The reason you are likely seeing the Distress Watercolor Pencils losing pigment when you put down the color is due to the fact the Distress Watercolor Pencils don't contain a filler. Tim talked about it in his launch video for the most recent three sets he released. The are pure pigment with no fillers, so it you put the color down pretty hard, you will likely end up with pigment "dust" on your paper.

[@marthatierney2632]

I really enjoyed watching your process today. I've been drawing and painting for years and have never done that myself. I'd watch more if you posted it. Thank you and feel better!

[@treenawelch31]

You inspire me to try them...tim holtz has an excellent reputation, very good in my opinion.💜