Conlang Critic: Poliespo

the poliepisode of conlang critic
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[@cartermakice3890]

"make an IAL but only release resources in Esperanto" is literally #416 on the bad conlanging ideas tumblr

[@elemenopi9239]

wait you mean that page ISNT a checklist?

[@abridge2]

@@elemenopi9239 -The guy who made Kay(f)bop(t)

[@qui9797]

same with “make a conlang you can only join if you enter an MLM”

[@nixel1324]

@@qui9797 Holy shit, what if this conlang is _supposed_ to be bad? What if it really _is_ a joke that people didn't get, and those guys from 1993 really _did_ completely misrepresent what the language was about?

[@element1192]

@@nixel1324 No i think it was just an incredibly mentally disturbed person's attempt at creating something

[@boxwater]

"Comparing Poliespo to Vötgil is an insult to Vötgil" Is such a powerful phrase. i love it

[@slayerslayer7623]

It is a more impactful phrase than my entire life will ever be.

[@nothingtosay21]

How the turntables...

[@NicknotNak]

How the tables are tables?

[@bacicinvatteneaca]

@@NicknotNak TEIBOL

[@hiimemily]

The word "banant̂ⱥn2plaĉqlx" looks like someone was typing "banana" and then someone dropped a piano on them.

[@Sylocat]

Maybe that's why they don't like bananas. Bad memories, y'know?

[@RichConnerGMN]

nice pfp

[@DialecticRed]

The fact that you took the time to input the circumflexes and the / through the a to make this comment is honestly commendable.

[@Sylocat]

@@DialecticRed the ComposeKey utility is one of the most useful things ever.

[@abxy_real_official_since2020]

LOL

[@KateGladstone]

It gives the term “_*con*_lang” at least two whole new meanings ...

[@franzsteiner2341]

I read this and made a sound in between a laugh and a whimper

[@Nemo_Anom]

@@franzsteiner2341 a lhighnpre?

[@derpydayha]

@@franzsteiner2341 this was my response precisely

[@zonk1]

yike

[@elemenopi9239]

bruh i can't believe they made polio into a language

[@jbdbibbaerman8071]

Do you think FDR can speak it?

[@suwinkhamchaiwong8382]

@@jbdbibbaerman8071 prob

[@k.umquat8604]

Me neither

[@dusaprukiyathan1613]

i'mma make coronavirus language

[@yeetyeet-jb6nc]

@@dusaprukiyathan1613 coronespa

[@esbendit]

Any hypothetical conlang worse than poliespo is likely made specifically to be bad, in which case it would be an astounding success, and thus still better than poliespo.

[@rayelgatubelo]

Poliespo makes Kay(f)bop(t) look like Toki Pona in comparison.

[@nicolasglemot6760]

@@rayelgatubelo Well, to be fair, Kay(f)bop(t) is an amazing conlang.

[@Nemo_Anom]

@@rayelgatubelo I dunno. Kay(f)bop(t) isn't actually really speakable. Theoretically, Poliespo is speakable, if really garbled. Kay(f)bop(t) is structurally, fundamentally, meant to be impractical to the point of failure.

[@MisterHunterWolf]

Don't try to be good at being bad, be bad at being good.

[@p.g.v.3765]

@@Nemo_Anom and it archives its goals better than most other conlangs out there

[@joeyjojo6148]

Thanks for the shoutout! I just want to assure everyone that no matter how bad the document looked from the quick glimpses jan Misali showed, it's far worse. He didn't even get into Billy's claims of how Zamenhof ripped off Cherokee, or the stuff about psychics.

[@Ptaku93]

I need to know the stuff about psychics, please!!

[@joeyjojo6148]

@@Ptaku93 He went to a psychic who told him that Poliespo would be widely used in the field of technology and after the human race united. Then because Esperanto has the preposition 'po' and Poliespo can be shortened as 'po,' that's proof that the spirit of Sequoyah influenced them both.

[@W4t3rf1r3]

Vi estas multe pli kuraĝa ol mi.

[@danieldelizaur435]

Can someone give me a link to that document?

[@nutritionalyeast7978]

I'm keen for the document too, i've searched a while for it on the internet and only gotten rephrasings of the wikipedia page and dead links

[@ИринаХанжиева-п9д]

Billy: adds a dozen of new sounds to accommodate the Cherokee vocabulary Also Billy: adds only 2 words from Cherokee

[@trinity_null]

and neither of them use the new sounds lmao

[@numburger]

@@trinity_null They're special

[@andremassabki6034]

Gee, we all lived to witness Vötgil's redemption

[@masicbemester]

Vötgil redemption arc?

[@yerdasellsavon9232]

1st of Feb is a happy day in the vötgil community

[@IceCenders]

Like when the big baddie of season 1 becomes the antihero of season 3 when a much, much tougher enemy comes along.

[@falpsdsqglthnsac]

“I literally cannot imagine a language worse than Poliespo.” Challenge accepted.

[@PlatinumAltaria]

I made a script that is literally just diacritics. There is always a bigger fish.

[@rayelgatubelo]

Gonna be hard... Poliespo makes Kay(f)bop(t) look like Toki Pona.

[@dominiccasts]

I mean, I'd start by making the entire consonant inventory all of the sounds that the IPA considers theoretically pronouncable by humans, but which no current language uses. Then I guess you could use latin characters, but shuffled just so your intuition from any other language is always wrong. I suppose for vowels you'd have to avoid 'a', 'i', and 'o', and maybe also have nasal and aspirated vowels that encode wildly distinct meanings. Even then, though, sooner or later someone reading that document is going to realize you're just taking the piss.

[@HBMmaster]

if you're trying to make it bad and you succeed and it's bad, that means you did a good job achieving your goal and therefore it isn't bad

[@falpsdsqglthnsac]

Conlang Critic but then, if it isn’t bad, then it failed at its goal, making it bad again

[@AshtonSnapp]

This language can be summed up with one word: *nope*

[@franzsteiner2341]

Nopičo

[@want-diversecontent3887]

li ala

[@yerdasellsavon9232]

Or cancer Or AIDS Or hell

[@unhingedegoist]

@@yerdasellsavon9232 you just insulted every cancer/std patient alive

[@qwedge]

@@unhingedegoist and satan

[@christinawisdom1128]

as a cherokee speaker i actually got mad when it said that it only had 2 native cherokee words... I would want to make a cherokee based conlang but i feel like thats almost disrespectful because instead i could just get people to learn cherokee

[@MatthewMcVeagh]

Please do make a Cherokee-based conlang, it would be great. But please make it a good one! I am not American and have little knowledge of Native American languages. NA-based conlangs would get conlangers more interested in them. So many conlangs are made by European language speakers and generally copy European languages.

[@lfocoap4950ajf8]

i really wanted to include 40-50% cherokee vocabulary and grammar into a conlang but there's no resources for the language anywhere. please do either, language is such an integral part of culture and we haven't put enough effort in to preserve them

[@orereocookie6538]

@@lfocoap4950ajf8 You can learn about the Cherokee language using an online resource called, "Your Grandmother's Cherokee". There is a really interesting story behind the development of this resource in that it features a dictionary that is capable of forming complete "word-sentences" that are described by Native speakers to resemble the speech patterns of past (and passed) generations, hence, "Your Grandmother's Cherokee".

[@isaacthecorncob]

@@MatthewMcVeagh That's exactly what I set out to do with my conlangs. I have eight sperate conlangs all largely inspired by various native American languages (one that has a bit of Na'vi in it, too). I also have one conlang inspired by Nahuatl and one that is largely inspired by Hawaiian and various other Austronesian and Polynesian languages

[@yoru900]

Do you know some good resources for learning Cherokee? I'd like to learn it

[@ganymedeanoutlaw]

"You've got to commit to your bad decisions" You know, it sounds like this guy doesn't have a problem with committing things.

[@oz_jones]

Eyyy

[@NicknotNak]

Apparently not where it matters though

[@maxvogt3515]

Apparently commuting to them 3 times over

[@zhaleyleitnib5150]

he was innocent and framed. there was never any evidence he even killed those people. he is even up to retrial now since his convictions were overturned.

[@jsgsevsik9492]

This episode is the funniest thing Ive seen in a long time

[@J3Puffin]

I just love how savage he gets with this one. This wasn’t a review - this was an execution with a flourish.

[@driveasandwich6734]

He turned himself into a terrible language, funniest shit I've ever seen!

[@sunwukong6897]

That “insult to Vötgil” comment was gold

[@MatthewMcVeagh]

I actually found it depressing and had to stop halfway through and take it up again later.

[@yerdasellsavon9232]

@Gnomicality I like to think they died for this

[@bloodypommelstudios7144]

Haven't even got in to the language and we find out it's a pyramid scheme and the creator is on death row. I can tell this is going to be special!

[@Anonymous-df8it]

Is he still on death row or is he dead now?

[@Mmmm1ch43l]

@@Anonymous-df8it still there apparently

[@chrisamies2141]

so he's a con (convict), a conman and a conlanger?

[@bloodypommelstudios7144]

@@chrisamies2141 How the hell didn't I think of that!

[@morganhopkins204]

Are you sure this isn't why he's on death row?

[@slamwall9057]

No

[@tzshchsjsjxijyo]

hey it could be both

[@theneongoomba]

Wait, so Poliespo is a pyramid sceme?

[@youmukonpaku3168]

actually I think it's a trapezoid scheme.

[@hiimemily]

And that isn't even the fourth-worst thing about it.

[@DrWhom]

@@youmukonpaku3168 a complicated variant of hangman?

[@fernandobanda5734]

On one hand, this is not too far from someone's first try at conlanging. On the other hand, if you use "2" and some letters on top of others, we can't be friends.

[@lawrencecalablaster568]

I was going to be like “but 2 can represent ء in Arabic” but that’s only in online romanizations so never mind.

[@heckoff7904]

​@@lawrencecalablaster568not to necro but 7 is a glottal stop in Squamish i believe.

[@Mercure250]

Basically, this is auxlang gore

[@thrownstair]

It’s written snuff

[@sowelichemlatu1789]

imagine being murdered by a bad conlanger

[@bacicinvatteneaca]

What a way to go

[@slamwall9057]

Imagine murdering a bad conlang

[@rickelvi]

I shouldn't have laughed as hard as I did

[@user-nd7ts7bp6g]

Imagine having to put a bad conlanger on the most wanted list

[@0hate9]

I feel like, if you're going to be murdered by a conlanger, it's more likely that they're a bad one

[@Sylocat]

When a conlang is a pyramid scheme and that's not even the worst thing about it, you know you're dealing with something truly special.

[@deryckchan]

Let the affixes built to sc-- Nevermind, this is utterly impenetrable. Thanks jan misali for introducing us to a conlang that we shouldn't bother learning anymore about.

[@rayelgatubelo]

Poliespo sounds like the name of a Pokémon

[@fanOmry]

The one good thing that can be said about it..

[@Nemo_Anom]

A metal class pokemon that looks like a rolly-poly bus.

[@masicbemester]

the first time I read the conlang name, I read it in a Polish/Russian/Slavic accent

[@juliaanimates9765]

“Poliespo! I choose you!”

[@icarusmarioFAN]

It sounds like a bootleg evolution for Poliwhirl

[@jordanberndt4157]

People who actually have the time to make an entire conlang: 1. Tenured academics 2. Wealthy people in need of hobby 3. Convicts serving a life sentence in prison for murder

[@nicolasglemot6760]

@haven adventurer This makes it even sadder. The person who made this not only had a mind and/or life fucked up enough to get them to the point of killing innocent people, but they also made it knowing they were gonna die (and litterally waiting for it), probably as an attempt to leave some kind of legacy behind them...And even then it's as bad as it could possibly be.

[@i_teleported_bread7404]

Jokes on you, I'm poor as dirt, have no job, and am not as of now on death row.

[@Melecie]

4. Writers and worldbuilders

[@cubixthree3495]

@@i_teleported_bread7404 Congratulations!

[@Pandadude-eg9li]

4 Jack Eisenmann

[@solarplayza2614]

Vötgil: exists Poliespo: sir im gonna have to take your “worst conlang” license, hand it over

[@want-diversecontent3887]

Vötgil: *looks at Poliespo* OH SHIT YOU DEFINITELY DESERVE IT FUCK

[@averyvonfrank3282]

i think you mean ûqrst

[@etruscanetwork]

VötGil: I'm the dumbest conlang alive Poliespo: "Osijo, samideanoj" VötGil: You're clearly dumber 🫴👑

[@TheCaregiverSITMOB]

Kay(f)bop(t):

[@rubbedibubb5017]

Wait. Sequoyah was also the name of the guy who created the cherokee syllabary. He did a better job than this guy, and he didn’t even know how to read any script besides his own syllabary. He was just inspired by the shapes of latin letters.

[@kohakuaiko]

Yep.

[@jacobscrackers98]

The shapes of the letters have little to no connection to other scripts that look similar to it, therefore by jan Misali's standards is a bad script.

[@gwest3644]

@@jacobscrackers98 But it isn’t meant to be a Latin orthography, just an entirely new script.

[@Ealsante]

Sequoyah didn't just 'do a better job' than this murdering fuckhead. Sequoyah is a big damn hero, and just hearing Waldon appropriate his name is infuriating.

[@hiimemily]

@@jacobscrackers98 The key is that the Cherokee syllabary is _based on_ the Latin alphabet, while Poliespo simply uses the Latin alphabet itself. Using "Ꮞ" for /se/ is far more sensible than using "2" for /ə̃/.

[@misoweli]

**nasal schwa is represented with a 2**

[@masicbemester]

It feels like kay(f)bop(t), but the knowledge that this is in a serious, unironic context makes me sick

[@mi8628]

This video makes me want to try to make a good IAL, but it also makes me want to try to make a language worse than Poliespo. Neither of these goals are achievable.

[@laprankster3264]

The first goal could be achievable with a sound inventory something like this /p~b/ /t/ /k/ /s/ /t͡ʃ~ʃ/ /x~h/ /m/ /n~ɲ/ /v~w/ /l~r/ /j/ /i/ /u~ɯ/ /e~ɛ/ /o~ɔ/ /a~ɑ/, an analytic (though not necessarily isolating) grammar, an SVO or SOV word order, and vocabulary from a variety of sources.

[@ApriiSR]

@@laprankster3264 so basically toki pona

[@laprankster3264]

@@ApriiSR kind of, but I don’t think 123 words would be enough. I personally prefer to be able to express complex concepts without having to create a bunch of complex phrases in every sentence.

[@fernandobanda5734]

@@laprankster3264 The vocabulary part is what I find most difficult. Assuming you're looking for more than just relying on Latin roots.

[@ApriiSR]

@@laprankster3264 toki pona could use a little more expansion, maybe a good way to make subordinate clauses. The vocabulary could use expansion, but it doesn't need as much as you'd think.

[@AdrianHereToHelp]

The fact that he decided it was very important to use the Cherokee word for peace after committing multiple literal murders...

[@40watt53]

its okay guys!! hes nice now!

[@enuma-elise]

Update on Waldon’s crimes: As of January 3, 2023, Waldon’s conviction and death sentence have been overturned. The justification is that Waldon was not given adequate representation. Despite clearly being mentally unwell, Waldon was allowed to defend himself in court, and appeared not to understand the charges brought against him. He is currently awaiting a retrial.

[@jan_Eten]

wait what hes NO LONGER CONVICTED?!?!

[@etruscanetwork]

Imagine getting him to watch this video

[@jan_Eten]

@@etruscanetwork frfr

[@masicbemester]

1:46 on death row for violent crimes and of course, for Poliespo, which is the most heinous crime in existence.

[@camwoodstock]

Honestly, if I was a lawyer, and the list of things my client did was "make Poliespo", I'd probably just have him turned in immediately.

[@youmukonpaku3168]

"Your honor, in light of the circumstances, I am entering a plea of "Super Guilty" on behalf of my client, with hopes of finding a sentence greater than capital punishment."

[@Anonymous-df8it]

@@camwoodstock If I was the executioner, I would make sure that his death is as slow, painful and drawn out as possible.

[@pcarrierorange]

@@youmukonpaku3168 “Myself and the jury will be killing ourselves shortly. You’re welcome to join in, your Honour.”

[@Mordecrox]

​@@youmukonpaku3168"your honor, Poliespo." *bam* DEATH

[@litete2512]

A conlang made by a repeat killer which is also a pyramid scheme and a poor attempt at incorporating Cherokee into the most established conlang. Best conlang of all time.

[@2Cerealbox]

To be fair, this is probably how I would entertain myself in prison, too.

[@recurse]

Attempting to get rich by creating the worst conlang/pyramid scheme ever made?

[@IM2awsme]

Sounds pretty solid to me. Pyramid schemes are all about attracting stupid people who want to prove their smart. It's a very sociopathic profession. Great way to pass the time, imagination getting a letter every couple of days full of money, and with a slight grin you send them back a thank you card and a couple of pamphlets to spread the word. Maybe even a membership certificate to hang on the wall to show their guests how involved they are.

[@robdoghd]

"episode thirty-one" gave me whiplash it's like feel old yet conlang critic premiered 45 years ago today

[@robdoghd]

also 1:25 screams pyramid scheme no?

[@AuntBibby]

okay but what if you made a conlang where every word was a dirty word from an already existing naturally-evolved language

[@kohakuaiko]

That would be hilarious and wildly NSFW.

[@Painocus]

That's just Northern-Norwegian. (This joke is for you, the one Norwegian person who stumble upon this comment.)

[@muteto2686]

And also where all the word's meanings are either exactly the opposite of or completely unrelated to their curse word origins

[@48917032]

Weeelll... the Hyperion trilogy has a character who temporarily loses nearly his entire vocabulary from a stroke...except for a few dirty words. So he has to communicate entirely by swearing for some time.

[@eac-ox2ly]

@@48917032 Holy shit, that sounds cool af

[@kittykat5090]

this conlang, like the creator, is an absolute mess

[@kittykat5090]

totally forgot i commented this and holy crap this got so many likes

[@etruscanetwork]

​@@kittykat5090 lol

[@KoBo33451]

Oh, wow. This...I mean...how does this even happen? How does something like this even see the light of day? I didn't know conlangs could get that bad, and I've seen a lot of them. Hell, I've MADE a lot of them. Just, wow.

[@OrangeC7]

Perhaps this person was... overconfident...?

[@verdakorako4599]

Esperantists sometimes make esperanto derived con-langs for fun and most are crap and never intended to see the the light of day.

[@KoBo33451]

@@verdakorako4599 I'm not saying I've never done similar things like, for example, taken the correlative chart and dropped it into my conlang; I'm just saying that I've made less of a mess doing it. Oh well. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@gayvideos3808]

"It's like it was specifically designed with me specifically in mind, with the intention of using the Latin alphabet in a way that's as disgusting as possible to me personally"

[@gayvideos3808]

Actually someone should do that: watch the entire series, take notes of all the features he grimaces at, and make a conlang whose sole purpose is to be mitch's personal hell

[@CraftQueenJr]

Pactura how has no one done this?

[@masicbemester]

@@gayvideos3808 a helllang specifically designed for jan Misali, huh? I'm in.

[@EnriqueLaberintico]

@@gayvideos3808 The Bad Conlang. It's like The Bad Place but in language form.

[@Pandadude-eg9li]

Plot twist: He looks at it and decides that it isn't bad because it succeeded in being insulting to him, and the Conlanger did a good job with his insult.

[@jasmijnisme]

> there are dozens of amateur creations worse than Vötgil, but most of those have never been seen by anyone but their creators I feel so attacked right now :P

[@memelordmarcus]

The distance from poliespo below vötgil is near the same size as the distance from vötgil below toki pona.

[@MegaDrvo]

you could make a perfect ARG / spooky number station by just looping every time jan voices out the letters in a conlang.

[@Zawmbbeh]

or you could make a radio drama where some weird green slob thwacks onto the floor and in jan Misali’s great disgust is the pronunciation of the epsilon letter

[@youtubeaccount6564]

Well, Oklahoma Cherokee is tonal and doesn’t write tones using the Cherokee syllabary. so Billy Ray was at least doing something similar to Cherokee.

[@youtubeaccount6564]

Oh yeah (I’m commenting as I watch) the use of the suffix -tsu (pronounced more like chu) as a question marker is wild as fuck because that is the suffix used most often to describe rhetorical questions. The most common interrogative suffix is -s, although it still kind of works??? Another wild as fuck thing: the closest approximation to a Cherokee definite article is literally na. The use of a suffixed article was totally constructed, it’s not even common across continental American native languages.

[@swaree]

Last time I was this early, Mitch was roasting vötgil Edit: oh so apparently this is worse than vötgil

[@1papaya2papaya]

What if poliepso was intentionally made as a form of torture?

[@ursulakushner6760]

Oh yes, “gdz” is definitely a great consonant for a language that wants to be quick to communicate in!

[@Anonymous-df8it]

In all seriousness though, "kts" might be the building up of pressure at both the velum and teeth, then releasing at the same time to form a "kt" plosive. You then turn it into an affricate, and same for "gdz"

[@Anonymous-df8it]

lol

[@plantelo]

"I literally cannot imagine how a conlang could be hypothetically worse than this" sounds like hyperbole out of context. With context...

[@g4_61]

Labio-labial consonants aren’t real; they can’t hurt you. Labio-labial consonants:

[@davinchristino]

Can't wait for alveo-alveolar and trilabial consonants

[@DrWhom]

Now I am thinking of phonemes that can only be produced whilst performing cunnilingus!

[@MM-eq1mr]

​@@DrWhomhalf the conlang community couldn't make them by default

[@mesebasterisk]

bruh imagine being hyped about a new conlang critic video and it being the conlang version of a personified cheap-o esperanto having a stroke.

[@purpleisdebeste]

The mspaint looks like Poliespo has been clawed into wood by a madman

[@julester]

it was great to be a part of such a cool video! dreams of our generation in poliespo when

[@Big_Man_Enjoyer]

“I cannot imagine a conlang worse than PoliEspo” Me: *quietly hides my currently shitty conlang in the corner* I want to revise it but please don’t go looking for it ;;

[@ThinkAboutVic]

I bet you didn’t use a 2 for the nasal schwa.

[@__a_4444]

HE'S BACK Last year I watched your entire videography at approximately 3am for about a week and a half straight. I proudly continue that tradition now

[@andrew-ub4ku]

11:07 it is amazing that "kat2l" is a thing that exists in a language, even though that language is this one, the fact that there is a chart about language with a box dedicated to "kat2l" is awesome.

[@NXTangl]

Having an "emphatically ungendered" noun form would rock for conlangs designed with nonbinary identities in mind, and you would indeed mostly use those forms for humans. I doubt that's what the guy had in mind, though.

Turkish doesn't have grammatical gender.

[@sponge1234ify]

@ Having an "emphatically ungendered" gender is not quite the same as no gender/noun class system

[@blunije]

You know, Poliespo is good to know OF. It shows me no matter what I do, it's easily still better than an official conlang. Probably the best thing I've done is changing English orthography, which isn't even a conlang, just a fix of what's already there. So this makes me feel good!

[@SsVoyage1892]

poliespo literally sounds like a medicine with a 2 minute long commercial listing all the consequences of taking poliespo

[@edsidfug207]

Polysynthetic Esperanto, best summary of this messy conlang

[@fernandobanda5734]

"Polysynthetic Esperanto" doesn't sound like a terrible premise.

[@edsidfug207]

@@fernandobanda5734 yes it does

[@elephant3109]

it was nice to have a polysynthetic esperanto, but this is just awful (also, isnt esperanto already polysynthetic?)

[@razielhamalakh9813]

I fully expected Anthony McCarthy to show up and defend Poliespo.

[@Anonymous-df8it]

Me too!

[@CortexExists]

You can't just keep uploading on the 31st every month in 2020

[@noahegler9131]

I'm looking foward to the episode he will release on the 31st of February

[@debblez]

“The inventor went on his murder spree before making the language” *5 seconds later* gqbwhdvznckrbtpt

[@surgeland9084]

On a side note, as bad as this conlang is, the creator's conviction is also very controversial with many people calling for it to be overturned. Add in a lot of systemic factors and there is a good chance that whoever committed the killings is still out there. The con-job is real and indefensible, though.

[@calculovo4219]

Hey, so i wanted to find this video, but i forgot the name, so i google "that one language made by a murderer conlang critic" This was the second result The first result was zeze

[@usualunusualkid7149]

lmao

[@Pandadude-eg9li]

I wish the guy who made Thandian still had the document so you could review it.

[@Thomaas551]

Biblaridion

[@Anonymous-df8it]

@@Thomaas551 Submit it to Conlang Critic, please!

[@CompactStar]

Biblaridion once joked that Conlang Critic would do it for episode 99

[@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046]

It is better bc atleast thandian wasn’t an auxlang

[@Designed1]

thandian doesn't use the letter x or the number 2 as a vowel so it's already better

[@annalee2051]

Review the Minecraft enchantment table language next

[@SunroseStudios]

not a language

[@totallynotjeff7748]

@@SunroseStudios prove it.

[@annalee2051]

@@SunroseStudios lies

[@memelordmarcus]

@@SunroseStudios woooooooooooooooooosh

[@memelordmarcus]

@@reidmartin6209 people need to learn when they don't get the joke, so no.

[@OmnipotentEntity]

For the record, the only way I know of to typeset the overlapping letters in a modern context is to use latex, the commands "v\makebox[-5pt]{t}" seems to function correctly for the eth, and "p\makebox[-8pt]{w}" for the weird ass pw sound. They do look absolutely horrible.

[@TheSpooniest]

In the interest of keeping information up-to-date, it is perhaps worth noting that Billy Ray Waldon's conviction and death sentence were overturned in January 2023, partly on technicalities in the previous proceedings and partly because of his own "delusional" self-representation in court. He is currently awaiting a new trial. This does nothing to inspire confidence in Poliespo itself, of course, but the story still isn't over.

[@the-bruh.cum5]

Poliespo: you have weird hats Esperanto: I suppose you think that's cute what it makes you is a fraud

[@MeNowDealWIthIt]

Kay(f)bop(t): Did somebody say hats?

[@the-bruh.cum5]

@@MeNowDealWIthIt lol

[@ahumanistpotato]

Is that a #NewRadioShows reference?

[@maximilianwarren8296]

@@MeNowDealWIthIt r/BeatMeToIt

[@WhizzKid2012]

But poliespo has more letters with hats,.

[@IchisePoland]

Poliespo is literally The Room of conlanging.

[@bongle3726]

Votgil is the room and Poliespo is a snuff film

[@gayvideos3808]

I'm Cherokee and this language is such a disgusting trainwreck that this was the only conlang critic that made me stop watching.

[@gayvideos3808]

Ok I stopped at 5:00 but then i resumed. I definitely couldn't watch it all in one sitting

[@MatthewMcVeagh]

@@gayvideos3808 Me neither.

[@ja-vishaara]

I like how they publish their work in Esperanto so that, when Poliespo fails to bring your point across, you can just fall back on Esperanto.

[@aspen_the_great]

I see conlang critic, I click

[@gryphonavocatio]

I've watched a few of these videos as I've been getting back into conlanging, and my biggest suggestion is that you should pronounce the consonants in your consonant charts *between* vowels. It makes it easier to hear the consonants.....and it helps when somebody seems to think that nasalized preaspiration is a good thing.

[@dimethylhydra4095]

there's a bit of irony to one of the only borrowed roots meaning "peace"

[@tungstencarbide4713]

I think "pwtro" has the same energy has "humxn"

[@ataraxia7439]

I like the idea of a conlang that serves as a stepping stone towards more endangered languages, idk if it would just be easier to bite the bullet and learn the languages themselves though.

[@Liggliluff]

(6:30) A diacritical mark over a miniscule letter with an ascender is something I rarely find pleasing. Neither does other people either because miniscule Ť is ť, looks like an apostrophe, but isn't. But I do prefer diacritics over digraphs, that is I like š/ś/ş over sh.

[@seraaron]

At 8:22 to be fair, some Arabic speakers use numbers to transliterate too: 2 - ء 3 - ع 5 - خ 6 - ط 7 - ح 8 - ق (e.g. Bidde aru7 3lsou8 hal2, bidik teeji ma3i? = بدي أروح على السوق هلا, بدك تيجي معي؟) Admittedly it's clsr to a txt speech simulacrum frm the early 2000's, but still, it's functional; and as long as you separate your actual numbers with spaces between words then it's pretty contextually clear which are meant to be read as letters and which should be read as numbers. That said, this is faaar more sophisticated than Poliespo's singular number replacement. Poliespo really does seem like the creator just threw everything into this language. Reminds me of the Biblaridion video about 'How not to make a language'.

[@HBMmaster]

that's in the interest of approximating another script in an ascii compatible way. using because it looks like a nose isn't that.

[@lyricjones555]

dude you're the only channel I'll watch as soon as a video is put out I LOVE this series thank you for what you do

[@Oi-fo1wt]

Vötgil is to Poliespo as the star wars prequels are to the Disney movies

[@GlaceonStudios]

Disney's movies are fine, except for TRoS. Just terrible.

[@sarcomeresarecool]

Hey, at the very least you have to agree that the Disney movies did do what they were meant to, i.e. make Disney money. Poliespo's goal accomplishment, on the other hand...

[@dorktriogamer2865]

Violence warning "I feel it necessary to mention something so violence warning". What could possibly be that bad, is it such a bad language it hurt somebody? "The creator is on death row for violent crimes". EXFUCKING CUSE ME. "Including three murders" HEY THAT SENTENCE COULDVE STOPPED AT THE FIRST STATEMENT FROM 1 TO 100 TO 200 HOLY SHIT.

[@b_atanassov]

All things considered, the only thing I like in this language is the word banant̂ⱥn2plaĉqlx.

[@l3ftward]

i was about to fall asleep and then i heard "he is on death row for violent crimes" way to wake me up

[@Biospark88]

So you're telling me someone made Malbolge as an auxlang? I'm a bit excited.

[@want-diversecontent3887]

Kojo Regenbogen COBOL on the other hand, is Poliespo.

[@pajarothebird9842]

the banana sentence killed me lmaooo, looks like i tried to type the word banana with my forehead

[@memelordmarcus]

I never thought I'd see the day something would be worse than votgil.

[@cod73161]

*Vötgil

[@greenkitty1]

​@@cod73161*Waggle

[@quaternaryyy]

thanks for all the work put in to captions 😀 im not hard of hearing but it really helps me to read along !!

[@j8kethewizz]

In this episode of conlang critic, Jan Misali and Votgil form an uneasy alliance to topple a much larger threat

[@YaboiFoon]

Finally some good f-ing notifications

[@adventuresintheculinarywil3296]

Polio + Esperanto = the blissful realm where baby boomers ascend after death.

[@subparbanana1481]

Worse conlang than poliespo: Just scream “AHHHHH” and have your communication partner guess what you mean (If they get it wrong just repeat in english)

[@EnriqueLaberintico]

Still not controversial, and it's simple to learn... Remember, simple = fix!

[@Melecie]

yes but the purpose of this conlang was to intentionally be bad, and by misalian standards back when kay(f)bop(t) happened, that makes it a good language

[@jellyfish0311]

So, newborn

[@Anonymous-df8it]

Here's an idea for an inter-lang: Let's define the phonology. It has only consonants. Each consonant if formed by trapping and releasing the air at point/points in the mouth, resulting in being able to say more than one plosive at once. You must string the consonants within a single word, one by one, without any gaps between consonants, for pauses in speech differentiate words apart. Orthography: Let's define yes as 1, no as 0, and [x?] as [insert answer for x here] for now. The consonant becomes written as [voiced?][contains p/b sound?][contains t/d sound?][contains retroflex plosive?][contains palatal plosive?][contains k/g sound?][contains uvular plosive?] So 'p' would become 0100000 The actual words: Let's choose a language and remove all diacritics. Then take the ASCII form of a word from this now diacritic-stripped language. Construct a word such that the orthography is going to look like the ASCII form but with anywhere from 0-6 extra zeroes on the end of the inter-lang word (due to the fact that 7 is not divisible by 8). And that language that shall be chosen is... German! As it has cats running over keyboards for words, you would have to say a much longer cluster of plosives per word!

[@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046]

Atleast its orthography was good

[@official-obama]

oh, i had a scrapped conlang it had stroke order, it had like 4 basic shapes, simply just to chisel in with a 2-sided tool. it was a plus side, and a square side, and to make the p and r shapes, you had to use the edge of the plus side. it had the h in hue, and the vowels somehow, in my 5yo brain, were yelling faces, the schwa was somehow on a table, and the w symbol was two x shapes next to eachother, because it made a w shape. i also had regular words, like ho, 2 cross shapes on top of eachother, to make a HOle shape. it also meant santa. why? i have no idea. i didn't make any grammar whatsoever, before i went "this is dumb" and scrapped it.

[@alexschott9567]

The scan being slanted certainly doesn't help with the ugliness of the text

[@alsy6813]

It reminded me about the first writing system I tried to create in the 4th grade. I was trying to be original as hell, so I decided to make a box, add in some lines in there, choose a few lines for each letter (of my native Russian language) and call it a new language. Different letters could be written with almost the same lines, and it was impossible to say in which order the letters were or what they were at all. I don't remember it well, but I could have a letter "|_" m, "_|" s and "|_|" a, and then get a word "|_|" and wonder, was it just "a"? Maybe "sa"? "As"? "Mas"? Maybe, there were a couple of as? It could even be something like "masam"! I never know! And I knew that I was not able to read this thing, what was my explanation? "People who knew the language would just remember the way each word look and read them easily". And I was so proud of this clever invention! So, yeah. I don't know about a whole language, but I am just sure that I am a creator of one of the worst writing systems (He used 2 as a letter, i placed ь in the box because I had no more ideas of how to write letters, I ran out of lines. It was placed in the right upper corner. No other letters had a similar shape. I remember it so damn well. And oh, you know what this letter do in Russian? It indicates that the consonants before it is palatalized. It played the same role in script. Except, there was no way to say which letter goes before ь, so in a word with this sign one or more letters was meant to be read soft)

[@yojot3pi]

When I saw the name, I thought it was a western Germanic lang designed to outsmart the police. Lol I like argots and anti-languages too much

[@melvinshaw7574]

Polari band rise!

[@ArmyMan3241]

I thought it's something like that or was some kind of language to out smart and piss off cops. especially when they don't know what some kid on crack is say twerking down the block yelling as loud as possible to piss off the neighborhood at 1 in the morning.

[@MatthewMcVeagh]

Anti-language?

[@0Aquamelon]

Me in the beginning: Worse than Votgil? How?? Me at the end: oh...

[@WatermelonEnthusiast9]

11:25 you HAVE TO have the words for mom and dad be mama and papa or some sort No child will intuitivly know patrino, but all will know mama

[@ArturoStojanoff]

Nasal pre-aspiration is actually something that exists in my variety of Spanish. I’ve actually found myself doing it and was like wtf??? In many Spanish dialects coda /s/ gets debuccalized into a sort of /h/, and in my variety (Rioplatense) it occurs pretty much only before consonants. But some Spanish words have an /nsC/ consonant cluster in them, like “instrumento”. In these cases we sometimes aspirate the /s/ but keep the nasality of the /n/ and have a pre-aspirated /t/.

[@meryldoll9452]

Is that "Dreams of our Generation" in Toki Pona? I love it

[@tylerthelen485]

I think my 1st Conlang might have been worse than Poliespo. It was literally just English with different vocabulary and an absurd amount of diacritics.

[@4eyedphatguys]

You should try to set up an interview with Sequoyah to get all the missing details and explanations of the language! That would probably be really interesting!