Conlanging Case Study: Part 37 - Adjectival Intensives

[@Biblaridion]

Back when I recorded this, I didn’t have the foresight to mention that I’ll be participating in Lexember again this year. I’ll be posting all the entries in weekly community posts throughout December. By the way, Alien Biospheres Part 15 is currently at 14,000 words (I’m really hoping I can find a way to cut it down a bit). The first half is completely finished, and the second half is mostly written, but still needs a lot of editing and cleaning up. If I don’t manage to finish the script in December, then it should be done at some point in January, and we’re still on track to have the whole video done by March or April.

[@iddqdfomin1593]

very nice! am eagerly awaiting the finale 👀

[@mckinneym.2743]

Make sure not to burn yourself out!

[@onmyway3139]

Oh no it feels like you just finished last year's lexembar yesterday 😭😭

[@xavierreichel8254]

I'm excited beyond words for the finale, but please take all the time you need for yourself ❤. Thank you for all the years of wonderful content you've given us already! Looking forward to seeing your Lexember entries - last year's were awesome.

[@_Radiator_]

if you release it on jan 9th would be a great birthday present, excited either way and good video

[@lotofmalarkey434]

The Salish languages (or at least Lushootseed) have seperate words for children in general vs your own children. That could give you a way to justify having a different suffix for people's names, or maybe even adjectival suffixes that can only go on human nouns (a young thing vs a young person)

[@talideon]

Ditto for Irish, where you've the term "clann" for your children and "paiste" for a child in general.

[@josukehigashikata1481]

New vs young is already this

[@jolkert]

19:31 this is an english thing too. think "terribly" eg. "That show is terribly boring", "I'm terrbily sorry", "It's terribly cold out" etc. it feels old-fashioned and sorta posh in my ideolect, but it certainky exists

[@L4oo.]

I feel like you can have a lot of cultural fun with -miq. like what is the "stuff of civilization"? is it rules, monarchy, etc. you can think of a lot of interesting stuff with that

[@terpomojn]

Siâh is also a word in Persian meaning black.

[@omerosmanaksu5128]

Yeah, the word "siyah" in Turkish is a Persian borrowing. The Turkic word for black is "kara" which is still used in Turkish but less common.

[@mehmetserhataktas1213]

​@@omerosmanaksu5128Aga merhabalar benzerini yazacaktım tam ben de 😅 Conlang ile uğraşan Türk bulmak bayağı zor, sevindim uğraşıyor olmana

[@omerosmanaksu5128]

​@@mehmetserhataktas1213 Hocam sana da selamlar. Buralarda çok az Türk var gerçekten, sayımızın arttığını gördükçe seviniyorum ben de😄

[@sachacendra3187]

In alpine region, building material are often dry stone or "madrier" planks so wood

[@ArturoStojanoff]

"I don't like cheese" in French is "Je n'aime pas LE fromage," when you mean a substance in general you need the article.

[@theorixlux]

Don't worry, he's just roleplaying as Dexter

[@tylerlogan4747]

It has been an amazing journey, I've been following you longer then I've even had this account.

[@talideon]

13:00 - depending on their level of technology, an equivalent of the English term "wattle" might be appropriate. Wattle is made of woven sticks and strips of wood, and was used to give walls their underlying (non-loadbearing) strength and structure, with the clay daubed onto it acting to keep out the elements.

[@Mr.Nichan]

Concerning negative intensives, you should also look into 全然 in Japanese (zen zen) and Chinese (quánrán). Even if they are not currently negative only, I think they usually are, and Wiktionary specifically labels the positive use of "zen zen" as "colloquial" and only since 1950, whereas the negative sense was calqued/borrowed from Chinese in the 1890s. The component Kanji have a lot of different meanings, though, so I'd have to look deeper to pick out the actual Chinese etymology. (I'm also reminded that apparently some English speakers now use "anymore" in a positive sense, to mean just "now as opposed to before".)

[@psygamez7727]

I really want to see a conlang showcase of this

[@theorixlux]

I really like the clay argument for the "stuffeness" of something. Could help world build a prehistoric/classical religion

[@tuca9457]

You should make a shorts channel, one short I would love to see is "top 10 best idioms in my conlangs"

[@owenweatherbie9938]

Interesting on intensives in Latin, while the grammatical superlative form -issim* is the most common, there are some other strategies that can be used (and can combine with the standard superlative). 1) Prefixation of the adjective with per- (meaning thoroughly or completely), used especially with adjectives derived/transparently related to verbs; 2) the adverb 'valdē', ultimately from the verb "valēre" meaning "to be strong"

[@leethejailer9195]

Tbh i love this guy I can’t wait for him to take a break fr

[@kiwispaperplanes8585]

You should start a series where you simulate the forming of a religion (a conreligion if you will). day 1 :)

[@JonasJunior-g3k]

Create an alien biosphere spin-off. Called alien civilizations

[@Mr.Nichan]

13:00 I think some soil word like "clay" is good, because you want something likely to be semantically bleached, and I feel like a word for some kind of soil is likely to expand to refer to any kind of soil, and then any kind of powder or gel, and so on. It's a bit different, but, in English "dirty" has expanded from referring just to dirt covering things (etymologically) to many different kinds of disorder. If you look up the etymologies of words like "matter"/"material" (from wood from mother), and stuff (from to equip from stop/fill) or words they replaced or similar words in other languages, you can find a really wide variety, as I guess makes sense for such a vague word.

[@WolfGubbelmans]

Can we get the conlang showcase once to conlang is done

[@montystokes4815]

Can you do another conlang showcase for one of your other languages in the refugium please?

[@theorixlux]

+1 I been patiently waiting on this; seems like a genuinely interesting world.

[@Chubbchubbzza007]

He's already showcased all the languages in that world that are developed enough to showcase. There are two others, but they are still underdeveloped, and he's been too busy with Alien Biospheres to do any work on them.

[@uhcantbesayingmyname5609]

I kinda miss the conlang showcases because they were way easier for me to understand than this since I'm new to conlang stuff 😅

[@ThatOneCoook]

You should post all of the conlangs from conlang showcase's information somewhere before you leave KZbin. It would be very appreciated.

[@MuirisWalsh]

Bro when are you doing alien biosphere part 15?

[@-emir5484]

Qaardah also sounds like Kartal which means eagle in turkish 😭

[@kadenvanciel9335]

We all know that Taqva-miir doesn't have a writing system. But I do have a hypothesis on if it was to. It's already established that the speakers reside in an area reminiscent of Northern Europe, a sub-alpine tundra-like environment. They could carve their glyphs into trees or stone with whatever tools they could use. It would likely start as a logography, though given the low vowel inventory of the protolang, the system would simplify into al abjad. With the sound changes decided upon for Taqva-miir, several spelling reforms would need to take place to accommodate them if the speakers cared enough. A lot of glyphs would need to be repurposed, others would need to be dropped, and others modified, making it alphabetic.

[@kananaelomakgalima3055]

How do you know that Taqva-miir doesn't have a writing system? Unless I am missing something which is probably the case.

[@kadenvanciel9335]

@@kananaelomakgalima3055 I doubt he ever clarified or even said there was one.

[@evanwatling3897]

Mann I really want another refugium video. Worldbuilding is so awesome

[@Mr.Nichan]

27:24 Of course, in non-Classical-Latin Romance languages, they use "no" rather than their equivalents of "any", as linguistics teachers/textbooks always bring up when saying English dialects that do this "aren't illogical".

[@Zhoystick]

If you'd choose the form of intensifier "qayda" that would all so sounds like the Kazakh word qaida [qaj.'da] just with stress on first syllable.

[@Mr.Nichan]

8:50 Neither has to cause a problem, but I feel like the bigger issue is that an ejective followed by an h is a weird cluster that's likely to become an aspirated stop (so basically to loose it's ejective nature or else loose the h), rather than that there's any difficulty in making an ejective stop geminate. (I do see a possible historical or phonological issue with geminate ejectives, in that in some languages like Navajo, ejectives are basically oral stops followed by glottal stops, and geminates often come from consonant clusters as well, so it might be impossible for both to appear in the same place due to syllable structure in older forms of languages with these sounds, or possibly just synchronically. (Also, aspirated stops in Navajo are basically oral stops followed by [h], and I think the breathy voiced stops in a common Indian languages sound more like oral stops followed by [ɦ] then I tried to make them before hearing examples).)

[@Mr.Nichan]

I used the adjective for "big" as the most basic intensifier adverb (for modifying adjectives at least, so really ad-adjective, though I probably would extended it to verbs as as well; I just don't think I've done it yet).

[@karinalqaisi3918]

When are you going to make a part 15 for your speculative evolution series?

[@idle_speculation]

The script should be done in a couple weeks, which puts the final video on track to be released in March or April

[@Mr.Nichan]

I'd prefer a very old temple inhabited by a slightly strong fire-born something.

[@cogitoergosum9069]

Concerning the part about French negation, the "ne" part is actually rarely used in spoken French in specifically that type of negation construction. The main negator is actually "pas". That said, "ne" is used in spoken French in other constructions such as "ne... que", which means "only". E.g. "Je n'entends que la chanson de merde que tu as mise tout à l'heure" >> I only hear the sh*tty song you played earlier

[@rabioliveira6481]

Do you intend to bring more of your colangs?

[@The_idk16]

Been a minute

[@karinalqaisi3918]

What will alien biosphere 15 start. It’s already 2024!

[@jakubpociecha8819]

I'm honestly surprised he's still continuing the series

[@justalosthyena5563]

aw yeah >:)

[@jesterglee1319]

yes yes yes

[@WilliamLious]

French isn't a double negative. The origin is from "je ne marche pas" for "I not walking a-step". Another example is "un même pas" for "another step". There is an unfortunate trend in French to drop the actual negative "ne" and keep the "pas".

[@Mr.Nichan]

24:00 I once said "Je ne parles pas Francais." to a Louisiannan French speaker, and he said something like "That's not NO French.", so I suspect he's still interpreting "pas" as an extra "one step/one bit/any" rather than just prt of the negation.

[@Yachid]

RU still making ConLang'z