Console Wars - Primal Rage - Super Nintendo vs Sega Genesis

In this episode the rivals determine which console had the best Primal Rage. Super Nintendo or Sega Genesis? Find out in the latest episode of Console Wars!
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[@SNESdrunk]

I gotta say, this is probably my favorite episode

[@segagod3076]

I DON'T LIKE YOU, SNES CRAP

[@raymoorhouse9139]

Im a big fan of your stuff Mr. Drunk. In fact i rather enjoy it when you have a gander at the odd genesis title here and there. I love that guy who plays the side parts in this one. Seriously i cracked up when he appeared as the band leader on a late night talk parody. Im glad i never played a console version of primal rag. This holiday, lets all give thanks to the angry video game nerd, 16 bit consoles, & nostalgia, for helping.to make this pandemic a teensy bit less terrible ❤

[@chowmein0941]

Turbografx 4 life: ...

[@RockEsper]

Uh oh SNES Drunk look out Sega God hates you!

[@bjblaskowitz4435]

Great Episode

[@Aztyph]

A fun fact about this game: It turns out that the arcade version was bound to an encryption that has never been broken, and no one that has worked on the game has never been willing to help crack it. That means that every version that exists outside of playing it on an actual arcade board is flawed - even running it on an emulator is an imperfect experience. Also, as weird as the Pause cheat is, I do see some practical sense in it. Although it's useless for the casual audience, removing the Pause text would make taking clean screenshots for magazine and box images *much* easier. It's probably on the same level as the Konami Code that started in _Gradius_; the developers just didn't bother to take it out of the game.

[@GregHatezEVRY1]

I was wondering about that paused cheat...man that makes sense!

[@ModelJames13]

So the developers must be the most genius programmers of all time?

[@justintahair9119]

this game was fun when i played it in the arcades

[@WR3ND]

The game was "encrypted" and the cabinet would "decrypt" it? Sounds like water cooler bullshit. Just saying. :p They probably just lost the source code or something.

[@Gerenocidiac]

If you notice this reply, do you have any information on what would be missing emulating the arcade version of the game. I have the CHD or whatever of Primal Rage and always thought it ran fine. But I never really played more than 15-20 minutes at a time.

[@samirgomeznovelo746]

netherrealm needs to get a hold in this franchise. would love to see a new primal rage.

[@SwuadeTV]

I've been saying this

[@TheBigMan0706]

And probably some representation in MK11

[@1Soniccool]

Warner Bros. Does own Rampage

[@frankjager2420]

There was one in development but briefly. The Gods were going to be humanized in the sequel

[@maverickhunterstupidiocy7779]

jeez, that'd be amazing.

[@cesarfrias2946]

The Sega Genesis version does have the Babe's, in order for them to appear at the end of the game, you have to perform a fatality to all of your opponents and not be defeated at the final battle, you miss a fatality - no Babe's.

[@ConsoleWars]

The Xbox controller was a joke. Haha. Lala. Let's all just take it easy.

[@RetroRupp]

I was about to ask what the deal was with that, but then I figured I had better check the comments section first. Haha, thanks for another great video guys! :)

[@steelx505x9]

Console Wars you were using emulator

[@ConsoleWars]

No. We don't actually play the games while we film. We get the game footage way before hand. When you see us with controllers in our hands we're just acting.

[@steelx505x9]

Console Wars Ooh okay

[@RetroRupp]

Yeah, I kinda figured that. I just thought maybe your genesis controller got lost, or broke, or something to that effect. I should have assumed it was a joke. I guess I'm just a little slow on the uptake, huh? Lol :P

[@tommytoobad0870]

"WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!" had to be a nod to the avgn lol

[@ConsoleWars]

TommyTooBad08 Absolutely!

[@Just_a_Lad]

+Console Wars have you guys met The angry video game Nerd ? It'll be great if you do an episode with him involved.

[@57yearoldjamesbond]

Uh, duh. It was the way he said it that was familiar.

[@StarForceBelmont321]

@@ConsoleWars Dan and Pat I'm curious is Hook for SNES and Genesis based on the Stephen Spielberg movie on your to do list? That would be bangarang!

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

The “remove PAUSED text” cheat would actually be very useful for magazine screenshots, since taking pictures in motion is difficult but if it’s paused, it shows the text. So this cheat removed that, and lets magazines take a perfect image without any paused text.

[@JeffBailey1999]

Great point. I was thinking the same about that.

[@CharlesHepburn2]

I thought that too, however, the pause text flashes on and off. Couldn't the person just take the screen shot when the paused text flashed off? Why don't other games have this feature as well? Maybe because it's unnecessary to label a game as being paused... if it's not moving, it's paused... or frozen LOL

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

@@CharlesHepburn2 Back then when taking off-screen screenshots using a camera it was very difficult, you had to synchronise the camera with the refresh rate and it was easy to accidentally capture 2 frames at once. It made it easier, but it wasn’t ideal. Remove paused text is a perfect fix however.

[@CharlesHepburn2]

@@justanotheryoutubechannel I realize what was involved because I lived through those years (2600 to N64 days). I don't think it would have been super hard to just click the button to take a picture when the pause text flashed off. I guess the cheat made it a bit easier... otherwise, why even have it?

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

@@CharlesHepburn2 Part of the flashing might’ve been to avoid burn in but I think it’s more likely to make getting photos possible, even if it wouldn’t have been easy. Either that or it’s just a cool effect. But as someone who does take photos of retro games running on CRTs, having that cheat would make it so much easier as you don’t need to time everything perfectly so it’s all in sync.

[@GregHatezEVRY1]

Dan, they're noticing the xbox 360 controller. Our experiment is almost complete! Muhahahahaha!

[@ConsoleWars]

MrGadgetgreg Time to begin phase 2!

[@mattnova18]

Console Wars what's phase 3? a playstation controller? XBOX VS PLAYSTATION!!!

[@KyoshoLP]

Yeah, actually made me go check if Primal Rage was on the Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection disc. I thought maybe the cartridge they were using was borked and they with with that instead. But...this is all scripted (for the most part), and I'm almost certain their controllers are not plugged in while filming, so it would've had to have been intentional. I thought at the end they were going to reveal it was the collection they were using, but it's not on it. I'm guessing trolling of some sort. Heh.

[@Duodduck]

Ooh, I know what the paused cheat could be for. Back in the day, I had one of those aftermarket Genesis controllers that had a "slow motion" mode. All it did was rapidly pause and unpause the game. For most games, this meant you'd have 'paused' or whatever flashing on the screen. But this paused cheat for this game looks like it would take away that problem, which would make the hacky slow motion mode better.

[@subzero8679]

I think it was meant for people to do moves and be able to take screen shots without having the paused word on screen.

[@trevormills3339]

More frames of animation makes or break these 2D fighters for me. I like the Genesis version better. Feels much smoother to play

[@pittsburghboyertown3821]

Genesis version is definitely smoother.

[@RodrigoBadin]

The cheat to remove the "paused" message is suposed to take better pictures to game magazines as if the game was playing. Remember in the 90s they actually use film cameras to take pictures.

[@crashicbrosx]

14:22 was that an AVGN reference from another nintendo fan? glorious...

[@ConsoleWars]

You know it!

[@jacklazzaro9820]

What is?

[@jacobprice8048]

Your channel, AVGN, and SNES drunk are the only game channels I watch. Oh Top Hat Gamer is fun as well

[@gregm9182]

Severely underrated channel.

[@merlingt1]

I used to be a big fan of this game back in the day. The console ports have not aged well but still very nostalgic!

[@menoseloso119]

This is starting to become my favorite channel. Keep up the great work! 😊

[@ConsoleWars]

Rad. We will!

[@Sinn0100]

The best fighting experience goes to the game with better animation.

[@MASF_]

18:40 They have an arcade cabinet of Primal Rage in the top right corner of their living room. :O

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

MASF Yeah, I think it’s a multi game cabinet of some form as it changes games, you can see it in the final fight episode too playing final fight.

[@Webhed-sc8ev]

You guys need to do BOOGERMAN!! That would make my year!

[@ConsoleWars]

Soon.

[@Slappaccino]

Kevin Hodge YES Boogerman was the shit.

[@pferreira1983]

Mega Drive version would win easily.

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

Ways to disabled pause messages appear in quite a few games. They were meant to allow games magazines etc to take screenshots more easily.

[@Dex99SS]

No pause was for screen shots... A utility, like many "cheats" back in the day... Like debug modes, etc. And no sound during turbo mode was needed, as it used the otherwise sound bound cpu power to speed up the action... reasons.

[@xRocketzFighterx]

4am here in uk and im going to bed. Then i see console wars new episode. Great timing boys.

[@ConsoleWars]

Excellent!

[@quag311]

Entertaining as always. I love the sound fx and music comparisons.

[@parkerbrown953]

imagine a reboot of this game...

[@nobel11]

Well done, guys! Each episode gets better and better. I'd love to see a racing game episode. I can't think of too many racing games that were on both systems, though. Rock n Roll Racing, Hard Drivin', and Kawasaki Superbike Challenge are three I can think of off the top of my head.

[@ConsoleWars]

Hey guys! Hope you enjoyed the video. I used a new editing software for this episode. Final Cut Pro. I would love some feedback. How's the video/audio quality?

[@positivevibesyo]

Console Wars the video/audio quality is perfect on this video.

[@furgusuned15650]

Console Wars they treble is slightly distorted (probs just mic settings) but overall excellent. the video is great.

[@Rat-Man]

Console Wars AMAZING

[@furgusuned15650]

Nothing very noticable and not at all distracting however

[@califaern3sto]

Console Wars its in 480p, not 720p or 1080p

[@bitset3741]

The no "paused" cheat was for if you use a slow mode controller that paused numerous times per second it would just slow down, without a flickering "paused" message on the screen.

[@DaGameNerd]

Ok...for those wondering why Dan is holding a 360 controller it's honestly to see who's paying attention, it's for comedic effect. He's done it before in past videos where he holds a Sega controller then 360 in one scene & switches back to Sega, gotta watch the detail to videos ;)

[@xboxonevideos7685]

DaGameNerd you have to much time in your hands smh

[@ConsoleWars]

Yup. Also, we filmed this after a long day of work and I forgot my controllers at home. Whooops!

[@liraman2000]

does it mean you are not really playing the game in the video !?!? , i'm crushed

[@DaGameNerd]

Xboxone videos For being able to see continuity/little details in videos? That doesn't make much sense but ok I guess.

[@Ryo]

was worth the wait. i always look forward to your videos, also you guys are so close to 20k!

[@ConsoleWars]

So close!

[@rickcampbell38]

Console Wars

[@shadowshield88]

Great video guys. Hoping to see Fatal Fury, Wolverine's Adamantium Rage, or Maximum Carnage.

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks! We do have Maximum Carnage.

[@shadowshield88]

Awesome. Can't wait to see that one. Was hoping to see Wolverine in time with the movie next week, but it's all good. Keep up the good work guys.

[@andysmallz407]

Keep these coming love your videos.

[@fullmetalgamer6062]

Do Pitfall the Mayan Adventure.

[@AkumaTh]

Great job on the video! Surprised to see call backs and so many ties. So the next game is a tale that's old as time.

[@mariomario7379]

Another great video. Can't wait for the next one!

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks!

[@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial]

Nothing like waking up to more console wars, great episode boys!

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks guys!

[@elperroreggae]

10:15 In Sega.. NADA. love that

[@iPlaySEGA]

I was waiting for this comparison! THX! PLEASE do Virtua Racing VS Stunt Race FX next!

[@ConsoleWars]

On the list!

[@iPlaySEGA]

Can't wait!

[@ChristianEsquivel84]

The music for Primal Rage for the SNES is awesome. It reminds me of a new age soundtrack between the apocalypse and a new beginning of a non-former species!

[@ChristianEsquivel84]

I mean non-formal.

[@0419casat]

i look forward to your videos and its kickass when you drop a new episode!!

[@mediaglitch]

Great episode guys

[@AdamViklund]

Terrific as always, guys! I love the callback jokes! So much fun!

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks!

[@cartoonfanboy9139]

I'm so excited for the next video!

[@visoredgruntR34]

Another fun Console Wars video in the books!

[@calamaty9963]

Cool! I was waiting for this.

[@armandavart5704]

10:19 "on Sega... nada!" Ha ha ha

[@B33FY2011]

Haha another awesome episode guys the whole cult thing a great idea for this episode keep up the awesome work.

[@pigjuice6499]

Keep doing what you're doing! Freaking love your VS videos! :)

[@ConsoleWars]

SuperGalaxyMedia Thanks! We will.

[@pigjuice6499]

:D

[@aqarius5740]

Re: the cheat that removes the PAUSED message when paused on the Genesis version, it was probably a courtesy for games journalists, so they could pause the game and take a screenshot for magazines, without the word PAUSED being on the screen.

[@Donscottmusic]

Great episode,guys! I look forward to every one. Keep it up! :)

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks!

[@Ozule]

Hey guys!! Great and funny video as always. Keep doing this great job. Greetings from Spain!!

[@sufiretro5238]

Excellent video guys, this channel is awesome

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank You!

[@Redmage1987]

I guess you could say the way how the Cult God got Greg to join was really "DINO-MITE"! Lol. Seriously, though, it was nice to see the dinosaur puppet again. I noticed that it always has it out for Dan. You must taste like Almond Joy, dude. This is one comparison that I've been waiting to watch. I never knew that the SNES game was based on a superior version. I'm glad to hear that, because that's the version I own. Good Job on yet another Suckaweet vidya, guys! Keep up the great work! It makes me happy to see you guys are so close to reaching 20K subs!

[@ConsoleWars]

Glad you enjoyed it dude!

[@jettcord6834]

Way to go on one of your best videos!

[@ConsoleWars]

Jett Cord Thank you!

[@KaskelotenZebbe]

Great video! I think they added the remove pause sign cheat to make it easier to take screenshots for magazines. You can still do it with the pause sign I guess, but the screens may look better without it.

[@Chillywilly8818]

this was trippy for me because I only bought this game on saturn a few weeks ago from a facebook retro games group then you made this video

[@CanadianPenny]

You never mentioned the much better screen resolution of the Genesis! You can see it all side-by-side comparisons of the two games. The Genesis playing screen is larger! Combine that with smoother animation and more responsive gameplay and the Genesis version should have been the winner.

[@ConsoleWars]

I wasn't sure if that was the game or the new software I was using, so I didn't mention it.

[@DanielMonteiroNit]

The pause thingy is probably for press screenshots. many of the names resemble internal QA names.

[@AstralWolf86]

Great episode guys 👍

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks!

[@grimnirwotansvolk7910]

People acting all weird because of dude holding a 360 controller, good lord, get lives, people. Anyways, great episode, guys, love the show. You guys seem so down to earth and real, I find that highly endearing seeing as KZbin gaming channels are awash with phonies and whatnot. Again, love the show, you guys are great. Keep doing what you do, fellas.

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@antshield]

YES!! You guys made my night.

[@ConsoleWars]

Yay!

[@Cloud971]

Great video guys, about the sound quality it's perfect i had no problem to hear and understand what you guys were saying. I was suprised that it's in 480p on You Tube but the quality is fine and i haven't seen any differences with the other videos you already made.

[@ConsoleWars]

Great! Only 480p? Sometimes KZbin takes a while to upgrade the quality. That part is out of our hands.

[@Cloud971]

Yeah i know that, i wasn't blaming you guys ;). I have also this problem when i post some videos of mine on You Tube too.

[@poopsyko]

Love the Video,you guys should do Cliffhanger at some point,it was so similar on both systems

[@Ronnie1992]

This was my first Console Wars video, and still is my favorite!

[@neilwilson330]

Another great video as usual. I have some ideas Shaq fu SNES vs genesis and rocket knight adventures genesis vs SNES.

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks! We have both of those games!

[@MrSamPhoenix]

I would love to see these guys do some 3DO, PlayStation, SEGA Saturn 🪐, & N64 consoles too.

[@David_Alvarez77]

Another great video!

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you!

[@solidmage1720]

I enjoyed this video. I laughed at the end. I would like to see a NBA Hangtime console war or TMNT Tournament fighters video.

[@mihaipreda90]

Hey guys, great video! Keep up the great work!

[@ConsoleWars]

Thank you!

[@mihaipreda90]

You welcome!

[@buuuba7022]

You guys deserve way more subscribers it kinda makes me sad you "only" have 23k :( I'm showing all my friends your videos they're hilarious!

[@michaelboyer7253]

Screen shots with out the paused on the screen 📺 is a nice feature for a nich few

[@neozeed1984]

ur videos keep getting better!!! thanks for the great entertainment. BTW... jersey gamers rule!

[@ConsoleWars]

neozeed1984 Thank you so much! Jersey!

[@ShaneHargee]

Great episode, new software looked great! ..lets see some NHL 94 soon???

[@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252]

Removing the 'pause' sign was actually smart for the time as a cheat option. People presumably wanted to take photos off their television sometimes and did not want the 'pause' sign to be showing all the time. Taking photos in the mid 90's was not the same as it is today.

[@zemaj0]

great video love your channel

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks!

[@furgusuned15650]

excellent video guys

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks!

[@alexandrestrauch5090]

Awesome video, guys! Hey, you should do Justice League Task Force. With Injustice 2 around the corner, the time is now.

[@captainnintendo]

Fantastic video as always. Would you guys consider doing a SNES vs Gen video on "We're Back: A Dinosaur's Story"?

[@Eli_Santin]

Please do R-Type III vs. Thunder Force. That'd make my day.

[@dadatarms]

Great job, guys! How about a Weaponlord face-off?

[@Moonlightatnight2]

It was also included in an arcade pack disk called Midway Arcade Treasures 2 for the Gamecube.

[@randygelion]

It's a shame Primal Rage 2 was cancelled. Wonder if the hint is Beauty and the Beast.

[@Trialwolf]

Great video guys. Ever thought of having a Stallone month were you review Demolition Man, Cliffhanger, and Judge Dredd?

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks! We have 2 of those games so we will get to Stallone eventually.

[@BubbaAce]

Definitely loved the new effects! This show just keeps getting better and better!! Looking forward to seeing what you've got in store next time!!! P.S. More reactions coming soon, been busy with some of my other videos

[@ConsoleWars]

Bubba Ace Thanks dude!

[@gamesurvivor3129]

Console Wars do you guys mind if I send you some sports games

[@RetroPiero]

Great video, loved the 'pause' bit. One of the most useless 'cheats' I've ever seen in a game. Guess good for taken screen shots.

[@ConsoleWars]

Thanks! I suppose it works for screen shots.

[@dsgitlin]

Yeah, that's exactly what it's for. It's a nice give to magazines, etc. of the time.

[@danielyoung6029]

Is that one of your worshipers? What that? No that's just a pile of rocks,A sexy pile of rocks hahaha.

[@AtariBorn]

I remember reading in Gamepro or Electronic Gaming Monthly, back in the day, and they were talking about games having options for clearing pause screens, giving reviewers clear pictures for taking screenshots. I'm assuming the options were implemented for days when actually taking pictures of the game on a television were the only options for capturing screenshots. Odd but makes sense.

[@sonictitan1239]

Console Wars FINALLY THANK YOU GUYS I FRIKIN LOVE THIS GAME AND IVE PLAYED ABOUT EVERY PORT

[@Clamper02]

Glad to hear that there ARE people like you who loves this game. Honestly, this game is underrated and it dose not get enough appreciation which is a shame. I love this game too :)

[@sonictitan1239]

I wish they remade the sequel or they made a remake like the recent killer instinct for xbox one if we got a new primal rage for something like the ps4 or nintendo switch that would be amaaaaaazing

[@Clamper02]

Sadly, I don't think that's going to happen since the developers of this game are no longer with us :( I would love to see a remake of this game but all we can do now is dream about it.

[@sonicmario64]

Something tells me the part with the scientist stabbing himself with his broken stick is an obvious reference to a funny scene from "Young Frankenstein". ;)

[@RAMCARTGAMER]

The pause thing was for screen shots. you could do a move and pause with out the sign... looked better for magazine prints ect. small but good for those who needed it.

[@fernandoalmonte3748]

The Sega guy wasn't using a Genesis controller.

[@petercolbeysgameshowmania7176]

The first “That’s it! Are we doing this?” in a Console Wars.

[@nerdyneedsalife8315]

I like how the Sega logo on the shirt is as worn out *hint**hint**nudge**nudge*

[@ConsoleWars]

I know. I'll make a new one (its an iron-on). Actually I tried making a new one over the summer and totally botched it. lol

[@johncargnin1275]

you guys deserve a Million subscribers.

[@ConsoleWars]

That would be cool.

[@J_Dukes]

removing pause makes sense if you wanted to play slo mo with a turbo controller with slow that basically turbos start so the pause on the screen isn't distracting

[@querpmuerp]

I think the pause-cheat was included for gaming mags to take better screenshots.

[@fartface8918]

Oh yeah baby I love these videos

[@caliktil]

You should ask Kevin Smith / Silent Bob do a console war on NHL 9x. I hate sports games, but I would watch that in a heartbeat.

[@PimpUigi]

I think there's a chance Kevin Smith might be into that. They love that game. They're even from New Jersey.

[@ConsoleWars]

That would be rad. I'm a huge Kevin Smith fan. Maybe the next time I see him live I'll ask.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

SEGA... why are you using a PS4 controller? Or is it an XBox 360 controller? Whatever it is, it's not a Genesis controller!

[@Lightblue2222]

Illuminati confirmed.

[@SorcererShangTsung]

Wow. That Kool Aid joke was pretty deep.

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

Wow I love this episode but why is it 480p in 2017?

[@SaviorGabriel]

I remember reading in an issue of Retro Gamer that the decision to reverse the special move commands to hold the attack buttons, then inputting directional commands was done specifically to differentiate Primal Rage from Mortal Kombat.

[@ConsoleWars]

SaviorGabriel Interesting. It def takes some getting used to.