Conspiracy of Silence: Covering up the Holodomor (Part 1) | Casual Historian

Between 1932 and 1933, the Soviet Union attempted a Genocide on the Ukrainian People through a man made famine, and then covered it up.
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[@user-cb3nz8sw5o]

My grandma was born in 1930 in Vinnytsia.She told me a lot about starving of her parents. Her dad was conducted to the GULAG and died there, mother died of starving, also died 2 her brothers and 1 sister, 1 sister left and helped my grandma to survive. She saw wandering people by the village,who was already swelled up. Many died just on the street, nobody could bury them because they didn't have effort to do that and died on the next day. It was really awful. She always was crying while telling me all that. I confidantly can say that each family in Ukraine suffered of ussr,because of starving,execution, GULAG or WW2 which was caused by USSR 😔😔😔

[@lukesalazar9283]

Thank you for the post..

[@lukesalazar9283]

@Jumpcut Jimmy may you make the most of it

[@aland9328]

I hope ukraine would recover about this wounds

[@dataman6744]

@@aland9328 there is an ethnic war going on right now with one side trying bomb the other so doesn't seem hopeful, or at least the political elite haven't learn this lesson yet

[@aland9328]

@@dataman6744 ethnic war?

[@Usual_User]

As a Ukrainian, thanks you for educating about this horrifying part of our history

[@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598]

It was horror but it was not a genocide.

[@alexhennigh5242]

@@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598 False.

[@2hotflavored666]

@@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598 3-4 million dead Ukrainians *is* a genocide. Stop defending people that are literally worse than Nazis.

[@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598]

@@2hotflavored666 They died because of a natural reason-caused famine just like Millions of Non-Ukrainians too. Stalin was not a Racist who wanted eliminated specific ethnic groups but off course he was a Mass Murderer. American Exceptionalists are worse than Nazis.

[@2hotflavored666]

@@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598 Lmao another Holodomor denier. The Holodomor was man made, Stalin purposely starved Ukrainians because they didn't submit to Stalin's dystopian rule. You're right, Stalin wasn't racist, he was a paranoid xenophobe who killed indiscriminately.

[@HistoryandHeadlines]

That's great that you got the guest voices!

[@levinb1]

One interesting, and very sad, fact is that one day Stalin’s wife Nadezhda confronted him publicly at a group dinner about the famine in Ukraine. During this dinner it is said that Stalin got so angry, and presumably drunk as they always drank together heavily in the politburo circle especially, he began to flick cigarettes at her across he table. Later that night, infamously, Nadezhda was found dead by “suicide” by gunshot to the head. Stalin remarked at some point in his life that whatever humanity was in him was lost that night once his wife died.

[@meeeka]

His quoted remark was, "She left like an enemy."

[@LoganLS0]

God that guy sucked.

[@RogerLewis-ey2tt]

Oh, I think his humanity left long before that. Before 1917, when Stalin was running a crew of thieves and thugs who called themselves revolutionaries, one day they came to a river as they avoided capture. There was a tiny island in the middle of the river, and on it was a calf who had lost its mother. Stalin's compatriots murmured about the poor little calf, when Stalin theatrically stripped off his clothes, and plunged into the river. He swam to the little island, broke all 4 of the calf's legs, and swam back. The damn high-functioning psychopaths cause all our problems.

[@michaelwicklund17]

This is one of your best videos yet. Looking forward to part 2

[@kricketlangendoerfer8387]

Yes, this is more informative than I've found so far. Learning why it started is as important as how it ended. On to #2. 🙀😿😾

[@anasevi9456]

great work on such a somber topic.

[@Kikasitsu]

Except this “somber topic” isn’t as somber as you think it is. First off, the Holodomor is largely based *on a distortion* of history. There WAS a famine. But... it wasn’t deliberate. Second, comes the sources. If you wish to know how DEEP this disturbing rabbit hole goes, you need only think of a few points: 1) Famine and Genocide A famine (for starters), *shouldn’t* go beyond one’s boarders if you’re trying to harm a people. The Famine didn’t stop in Ukraine. The famine affected people to the East and North of Ukraine, *as far south* as the Mediterranean. Genocide is an attempt to cause great harm (in part or as a whole) to a people. (Stick a pin to that, you’ll need to get back this later.) 2) Evidence If you’ve *seen* the evidence, you SHOULD know the sources of said evidence. Why in the world would you take “evidence” from not just one, but MULTIPLE *years* and regions? In a Holodomor exhibit, you have photos of a 1936 Food Shortage that occurred in the U.S. as a result of The Dust Bowl. You have photos from *11 years prior* also shown in literature. 3) Sources... “With friends like these...” is a phrase mentioned when someone you trust, is just as bad as the people you are opposed against. Imagine who your sources are when you read “Human Life in Russia” or “Why is one Holocaust worth more than others?” (... Or “Black Deeds of the Kremlin. Vol. 2.”) If your sources ARE THE NAZIS, then you better have some EXCELLENT means of proving something to be correct. There’s the lie, and then there’s *distortion.* Be aware that your “somber” takes on the Holodomor, are not only misplaced, but taken advantage of as well.

[@thelvl1bandit345]

ummmmm the video acknowledges that historians debate whether Holodomor was definitionally a genocide, but as the video states: regardless of whether or not the famine was a genocide, it absolutely WAS manmade. and then he issues a quote sourced from a report submitted to congress in 1988 (read: not nazis lol) to back up his argument. Finally i would argue that regardless of whether or not Holodomor was intentional to starve the Ukrainian people or not..... its a pretty fucking somber topic. P.s. also op's video, whilst it is well sourced (for a youtube video), it doesnt use any of the sources u argued are written by nazis. lol

[@spanglelime]

It took Jordan Peterson and a movie trailer to make me realize how little I knew about the Holomodor. Thank you for making this series❤

[@pente9991]

This dude literally used anti-communism propaganda from US and GB

[@st3pwise]

You should watch In the shadow of Hermes.

[@Jackzay90]

of course Jordan Peterson.

[@trstenik100]

@@Jackzay90 Your western universities are run by socialists, they censor anything inconvenient.

[@lololaws4861]

Getting your history from Jordan Peterson……Oof

[@lois7956]

Very good, though I would say drop the fake Russian accent for the future, it detracts from the serious subject and makes it come off as a little like you're taking the mick

[@lnmemoryofjohnmordaunt7386]

@Jared Jams extracting the micturition ie taking the piss

[@-xirx-]

Definitely.

[@sugat9012]

@Jared Jams I wonder what the meaning as well

[@theshenpartei]

The intro music is haunting

[@CasualHistorian]

As intended

[@theshenpartei]

@@CasualHistorian great video I can not wait for the release of part 2

[@alexsolomons2996]

@@CasualHistorian whats the name of the song

[@Artur_M.]

This is a very needed and well-made video. The only (rather insignificant) problem I have with it is that I'm not a fan of this whole faux Cyrillic thing.

[@Artur_M.]

@Jumpcut Jimmy I'm talking about this typography style that makes Latin script look kinda like Cyrillic, often completely misusing some Cyrillic letters, like Я, Ц or И which have nothing to do with R, U or N and are pronounced completely differently. It looks super bizarre and ridiculous when are familiar with the Cyrillic alphabet.

[@zanerosler6606]

When you can read Russian cyrillic, it messes with your brain.

[@rtwfreak2012]

Hey, I love your video. I think it is important to talk about the Holodomor and your video seems well researched and is very accessible to non-historians. However I have a few largely superficial criticisms. I think the fake Russian accent distracts from the quotes and the use of Cyrillic letters to replace similar looking but different sounding Latin ones takes away from the seriousness of the video. Lastly and this is really just nitpicking: please iron you soviet flag. The way it looks right now appears lazy.

[@str.77]

And is it just me or is the volume of the spoken words pretty low, especially when compared to background music? A great video nonetheless.

[@rtwfreak2012]

@@Kikasitsu The facts very clearly point to the famine being the consequence of deliberate actions on the part of the Soviet government. Read Anne Applebaum if you want further in dephth analysis. Your denialism is an act of willful cluelessness or ideologically driven misinformation. The facts of the Holodomor are historically accepted by most historians and you do yourself no favor by denying it.

[@Kikasitsu]

@@rtwfreak2012Read “Fraud, Famine, and Fascism.” It’ll reveal how LAZY these Historians are with regards to Soviet History as a whole. If you’re lucky, you may even notice the Antisemitism that the Historians *ironically promote* in the process.😏

[@meeeka]

It's obviously a paper flag that can't be ironed.

[@psychosneighbor1509]

@@meeeka Then it can be burned. Not sure why anyone would purchase or even want that disgusting thing in their vicinity...

[@williamhargis3286]

This is by far my favorite series of yours, I have a finals project for my sophomore world history class and I was assigned to make a video about the cold war and your series has inspired me to make a significant proportion of it on The Holodomor. The reason behind why I'm including The Holodomor in the project is because despite it being a tragic event that none of my peers seem to know about it, there was absolutely nothing about The Holodomor in our school curriculum (IK these curriculums have to teach so much in so little time, but it still infuriates me because we did have a short genocide unit and they still don't include The Holodomor in it) so I see it as my duty to spread awareness and encourage my peers research it as well. I just to say thanks and remind you that your hard work is not in vain and has a real impact on the world so keep up the great videos

[@everybodysayparty]

It’s midnight, I have to wake up early for work, and I can’t stop watching

[@CasualHistorian]

I apologize for nothing

[@everybodysayparty]

@@CasualHistorian 💜 :)

[@sjappiyah4071]

Wow…Seeing Stalin trying to spin this event positively was horrific

[@rafiqjennings5262]

This video needs to be shown to all those who think communism is butterflies and unicorns.

[@78910idontknow]

I wholeheartedly agree, even as a leftist. The comfort with which people adopt soviet-era mentalities is frightening, and stupid, as there are legitimate positive aspects to admire about socialism. We don't need to hammer and sickle memes, we just want healthcare that doesn't cost a literal arm and a leg. Another problem though is people on the right labeling everyone to the left of them as a stalinist.

[@SumSum1948]

@@78910idontknow I feel very similar

[@gabbar51ngh]

@@78910idontknow can the left just drop socialism? Even Modern welfare and keynesian Economists don't use any of Marxian class analysis or surplus value to justify government spending or welfare schemes. That's because in economics departments socialism is seen as outdated by almost all streams of Economics. Infact left would have stronger arguments for welfare and government spending if they used Modern welfare and keynesian policies rather than socialism which has horrible track record. Also there's no such thing as Stalinist, people died mercilessly under Lenin too. Che and Mao were no different. Left should read actual economics rather than Marxist nonsense.

[@burnsbooks69]

Thank you Casual Historian for this video it's possibly your best and most important yet! The world cannot forget the horrors inflicted upon the Ukrainians by Bolshevik Communism I light a candle every Holodomor remembrance day

[@Kikasitsu]

Do you even know WHO came up with it? The Holodomor narrative? Cause I find it disheartening that somehow you buy into a “Double Genocide” talking point.

[@burnsbooks69]

@@Kikasitsu you should find it more disheartening that you're gay and a communist.

[@giuseppetiso531]

@@burnsbooks69 Wow you guys are somehow both terrible.

[@burnsbooks69]

@@giuseppetiso531 lmao the virgin centrist giving his hot take on how both the left and right suck.

[@giuseppetiso531]

@@burnsbooks69 I'm a Communist pruck but I don't engage in atrocity denial

[@davodshah8869]

That thumbnail picture of Stalin is the same on my history book

[@lukesalazar9283]

What history book are you reading?

[@davodshah8869]

@@lukesalazar9283 just meant my textbook for school looool

[@lukesalazar9283]

@@davodshah8869 what part of history is your school studying??

[@davodshah8869]

@@lukesalazar9283 for a level we only do Soviet Russia 1917-1953 and Stuarts 1603-1702, also some coursework on the causes of WW1

[@lukesalazar9283]

@@davodshah8869 ok. That makes more sense. Where I'm from I wouldn't be too shocked if someone had that on their book as a good thing

[@TimBabych]

Thank you for your effort! So much labor was put into the video, and it shows. This is the most detailed video I've seen on topic. The only thing which could make it better is accounting for nationalistic angle of the issue. It was significant. Lenin/Trotsky did not just accept "self-determination" right out of the blue, they were forced to do so during the Civil War. The chauvinistic approach of Stalin's faction nearly cost them the war, and Lenin/Trotsky called for an alliance with socialist-minded minority nationalists. Ukrainian bolsheviks, Kazakh bolsheviks, Tatar bolsheviks. Post-revolution affirmative action programs (Korenizatsiya) were the result of this alliance. By 1930 the central state has grown strong enough to do not need bolshevik-nationalists anymore, and has grown actually suspicious of them. Many were accused of "cultural sabotage" and sent to Gulag. As you mentioned, in summer 1932, Ukrainian Communist party dared to voice concerns about the feasibility of the grain requests. To Moscow it was a sign of a long suspected treason and plot. Nativization policy in their eyes did go to far, it was time for a rollback. In December Stalin signed a decree starting a purge of all pro-Ukrainian intelligentsia, meaning teachers, officers, engineers, and, of course, party officials. New party bosses were sent in from Moscow, the old ones were purged. Culture: the affirmative programs were closed, the Russification was intensified. All Ukrainian-language schools outside of Ukraine were closed. Number of Ukrainian-language school within Ukraine was reduced. Alphabet and dictionaries were modified to become closer to the Russian language. You can read more in "The Affirmative Action Empire: Nations and Nationalism in the Soviet Union" and Graziozi's "The Soviet 1931-1933 Famines and the Ukrainian Holodomor"

[@timurermolenko2013]

Modern standard of Ukrainian language is an artificially muscovized form of language. Yet, most of Ukrainians would actively resist bringing Ukrainian language back to its roots because "it sounds awkward"

[@lukesalazar9283]

@@timurermolenko2013 that is sad..

[@marcvsavrelivs1640]

I've watched all the parts by now and I can certainly say that this is one of the most educational, and clearly unbiased videos I've encountered on this topic so far. Thank you!

[@clarkewi]

Excellent insights.

[@gonzakool4994]

After four weeks I finally finished this video

[@Pause4pot]

Did You Have to learn English First?

[@gonzakool4994]

@@Pause4pot i used this video to Learn English .

[@SestraVixen]

thank you for sharing this part of history. i plan to visit the museum in Kyiv whenever COVID goes away

[@Kikasitsu]

Please, take photos (if you can.) And if you come across *the [Thomas] Walker photos*, please do me a favor, and point and laugh. Cause only then you’ll realize that you came across Nazi propaganda of the 1930’s. (And there’s proof of those photos too.)

[@Pause4pot]

Israel Doesn't want It to go Away because they don't want you to go to a museum and they definy don't want anyone to learn the truth

[@miller330i]

Covid will never go away. Just like big government and bid pharmacy.

[@Imperfecto365]

Interesting video! Could you make a video on the Bengal Famine?

[@rafafr9]

I like this video, but using fake accents in quotes is absurdly hilarious and dumb, stop doing that please. Ive seen some of your other videos and you do this often, Its pretty distracting.

[@zachmorgan6982]

Booioo....u are lammmmeeeee

[@alg11297]

Great video as usual. Only, I was always told the word was po-Grom. As I don't speak Russian I don't know if that's true. I hope in the next episode you talk about the reporting of the NY Times which claimed there was no famine and won the Pulitzer Prize.

[@wldvk7083]

Pogrom - погром, derives from a verb громить - to shatter, to smash.

[@alg11297]

@@wldvk7083 I'm sure you're right but how do you pronounce it.

[@wldvk7083]

@@alg11297 With hard G if it's in Russian, with soft G(which can be replaced with a 'h') if it is in Ukrainian.The accent on the last 'o' - pogrOm/pohrOm, that's pretty much it - I don't know what else could be unclear about the pronunciation of this word.

[@owenshebbeare2999]

@@wldvk7083 I think because the first 'o' is pronounced as a long-O by the narrator. Long vowels are much more common in "American English". Words like Iraq, Italian, tomato spring to mind, though the opposite sometimes occurs, again at odds with British and International English (banana and Uranus being two examples). "Poe-grom", as pronounced by the presenter, is unusual for English pronunciation, I would defer to native pronunciation, Russian, Ukranian or the more likely Yiddish origin, which is also used in non-American English.

[@christianweibrecht6555]

the one thing I don't understand is who was buying the grain that the soviets where exporting?

[@OldHeathen1963]

Really good Professor ! Never stop learning! ❤

[@erikprank4611]

Do you cover also similar genocidal famine in Kazakhstan?

[@Kikasitsu]

... Tell me, which YEAR did that genocidal famine take place? If you say *1932...* ... Then I think you may have some very angry Ukrainians to talk too...

[@nubius]

digging in.

[@samaccardi]

Is...is that A Long Long Time Ago reading the quote at 29:53?

[@CasualHistorian]

This video has been sitting in the creator studio since mid-December, so I'm not 100% but they did provide audio for this project.

[@samaccardi]

@@CasualHistorian Fair enough :p I’m a decent sub and I figured it’s probably a good idea to watch part 1 before part 2. But it’s nice to see Historytubers, interacting and working together and supporting each other. Even in small ways like this.

[@thevenbede767]

Your map looks a bit wonky

[@jackson12802]

3-4 million? I thought it was an estimated 10 million

[@CasualHistorian]

Since the fall of the USSR demographers have gotten access to new data, which changes the estimate to 3-4 million.

[@cburns3256]

He is casual

[@NotOrdinaryInGames]

The saddest thing about all of this, is that the russian propaganda works for a reason. Ukranian language IS close enough to Russian, to the point where you can stretch yourself and call it a dialect, thereby justifying a military takeover. "It was always our land, these people are our people".

[@gamermapper]

If Ukraine would be in Russia it would've been considered a dialect. Just like you consider Rusyn a dialect.

[@gamermapper]

Ukraine wasn't independent for most of history. And it's up to debate whether they should be or not. After all, the colonised Republic of Hawaii isn't independent yet.

[@NotOrdinaryInGames]

@@gamermapper USA needs to rejoin the UK then. Right now.

[@Usual_User]

@@gamermapper Ukraine people always wanted to be independent, it's not our fault that we are in a middle of empires that wanted to cope our culture out.

[@gamermapper]

@@Usual_User many people want independence but don't get it... Like Crimeans lol

[@shellking2061]

WOW! I wonder what Robert Conquest had to say after the Soviet archives opened. I really wonder if his opinion changed or not 🤔

[@sasho_b.]

Dont worry, these guys cant read anyway.

[@thenorthkoreanwifier2075]

Hitler being put as far right is very incorrect. He believed in many social programs that were more along the lines socialism but blamed other races and groups like the Jews or Gypsies for why they wouldn't work. However he was very athoritarian non the less. If you wanted to put someone in the far right that also talked about the whole race and jewish questions, the Czars, and other monarchies would be a better example of far right ideas. The monarchies were very athoritarian and many of them were very religious and treated the Jews and other races and groups horribly like the communists treated them. But regardless they were all horrible regardless of where they aline.

[@malcolmabram2957]

The huge irony was, the way the Stalinist regime operated it was in reality just as fascist as the Nazi regime.

[@lorenzodocx4021]

@@malcolmabram2957 authoritarian =/= fascist....

[@pablop.7635]

Just a sincere curious question: Is Casual Historian communist or what is his political preference?

[@CasualHistorian]

People have called me a lot of things. A communist isn't one of them

[@pablop.7635]

Glad u answered, btw is there any books you recommend on these topics or a source to learn about the history of communism for an extra virgin in history like myself?

[@CasualHistorian]

For the subjects covered by this video I have my sources listed in the description.

[@momcilopucar8749]

I would like if you'd create video about Bolshevik revolution time and 1918 Western colectiv democracies 👉 🇺🇸🇪🇺🇬🇧🇦🇺🇯🇵🇨🇦invasion of Russia/USSR that try to stifle Bolshevik revolution and save Russian monarchy who traded on wall Street all Russian resources next to nothing. But Western leaches invading armies was finally defeated 1922. Then all deaths and destructions was blamed on Stalin. Moreover, after theres defeats fake Western democracies had imposed terrorist war, economic blockades and sunctions till 1991. Those same Western fake democracies had also invaded China too beginning of 1840 and occupied China till 1949 when China PLA people liberation atmi with leadership of China communist party throughout Western Leaches and liberated China then created China of today. However, Western fake democracies had blamed there's committed crimes in China on Mao Tzetung and communist party of China same as they blamed Stalin. Western Fake democracies form 1840-1949 had killed over 100 millions of Chinese then blamed Mao Tzetung. In reality Western colonial Leaches mentioned had killed over 3.5 billion people around the world from beginning of theirs colonisation of the world till today. That shameful history Don't exist in theirs schools history books. Crimes video had mentioned is results of collective Western fake democracies colonialism. Crimes and invasions of Russia 1919 Those videos I haven't see on KZbin. Except Western fake democracy propaganda and never ending lies against people that resisted theirs criminal colonial occupations. Even Spartacus would be accused as a bandit, terrorist or Communist if he had lived in present days. Now you know Why Western colonial Leaches hate Stalin and Mao Tzetung. If you've Read up to this point you should know who Real world criminals are then and now.🕊️🌍👌👍👏

[@quaesitrix881]

Some places like Ukraine seem to have all the bad luck. Escaping the full implementation of one famine plan thanks to the collapse of the regime supporting that plan, only to be hit by another famine plan a while later from the other side -__- Out of morbid curiosity, did Stalin manage to approach Backer's 30 millions planned casualties ?

[@libertycoffeehouse3944]

Well, I think you are doing a good job analyzing the events but you forgot about West European and Wall Street financing the Bolshevik Revolution. You need to read Anthony Suttons Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution.

[@danielforeroc]

In the beginning, I think you made an error not pointing out the distinction between the regions that would later form Ukraine, before 1917, Ukraine was only a geographical reference, just as Mid-West, its formal names were Malorossiya (Russia Minor or Little Russia) and Novorossiya (New Russia) by the russsian side, and the eastern half of the Kingdom of Galicia-Lodomeria, by the Habsburg side. Malorossiya was the old hearthland of the Rus' and it was conquered by the Lithuanians during the 14th and 15th centuries as the mongol power declined, then it became part of the Commonwealth and was progressively conquered by Russia during the 17th and 18th centuries. Malorossiya was not a colony as you pointed out, it was an integral part of the Empire and no settlement of russian peasants took place there, what happened is that, after centuries of polish rule, the old ruthenian aristocracy became polonized, and, as Russia conquered both banks of the Middle-Dnieper, the polish nobility was replaced by russian nobility, that process was accelerated during the 19th century as a consequence of the polish uprisings which were greatly supported by the landed gentry, but Malorossiya was a core part of the Empire, and its wealth wasn't just taken away, it also received investment, Kiev had the first tram system ever in the Russian Empire and Kiev as well as other cities as Kharviv and Rovne were important political and economical hubs. New Russia was indeed a colony, but it wasn't the colonization of ukrainian lands but the colonization by ukrainians under the direction of the Empire, New Russia was composed of the territory of two previous states, the Cossack Hetmanate and the Crimean Khanate, the first had been a vassal of Poland, but later changed its allegiance to Russia as the Commonwealth started its rapid decline by the end of the 17th century and it was later annexed by Russia (and the cossacks either settled or moved to the new frontier), and the second had been a vassal of the Ottoman Empire, and had led the infamous Tatar slave trade, that took millions of people from Eastern Europe as slaves to the Ottoman Empire, and, during Catherine the Great's reign, Russia would defeat both the Khanate and the Ottomans, stablishing the new border along the Dniester in the west and the Kuban in the east and annexing Crimea in 1783, ending slavery once and for all; that region, named Novorossiya by Catherine, was sparsely populated, and ukrainians weren't the majority there, while some ukrainians lived within the lands of the Hetmanate, in Crimea and along the coast their presence was minimal except as slaves, and settled society was almost not existent except for Southern Crimea; when New Russia was stablished, the majority population was muslim tatars, and slavs, circassians, greeks, armenians and turks were minorities, Russia did use New Russia for settlement, but not on ukrainian lands as you said, Russia settled ukrainians there instead and made the region ukrainian majority throughout the 19th century, while the muslim population heavily declined; and cities like Odessa, Yekaterinoslav and Yuzovka-Mariupol (Donets basin) were majority russian while the countryside was overwhelmingly ukrainian. On the cultural side, it's true that the Imperial government banned ukrainian language in the infamous Ems Ukase, but it was targeting the intelligentsia rather than the general public, the urban ukrainian intelligentsia was in the middle of a struggle between the Imperial government that seeked integration and the authorities of the Catholic Church, the old polish nobility and external agents from the Austro-Hungarian Empire that supported ukrainian nationalism, indeed, the greatest center of ukrainian nationalism wasn't Kiev, nor Odessa, but Lviv (Lemberg back then); and the cities progressively became russified as the new ukrainian elites integrated with the russian imperial bureaucracy, while the impacts of the ukase was minimal in the general populace, and it was revoked in 1906 (with all other language bans), before the educational reforms of 1908; after 1917 there was a division between the urban and nationalistic ukrainian elite and the mostly unaware malorossian population, that division wasn't solved until the 1920s when, under the leadership of the bastard of Lenin, the korenizatsiya program was implemented and formal borders between the russian and ukrainian nations were stablished, Ukraine including Malorossiya and New Russia, but not other regions with important ukrainians populations that had been through a similar process as New Russia, such as Kuban or had seen important ukrainian voluntary migration such as Omsk and Primoriye-Armur.

[@spencerrasmussen6127]

Based

[@MarcillaSmith]

and black-pilled

[@wolfgangallanalhazred802]

I can't believe that we glossed over this in school. I don't think it was intentional or anything, but still!

[@osaka4615]

Staliis nolosatsst

[@sharingforimprovement155]

The Soviet Union was Worse than Nazi Germany, yet we are not taught the horrors of the USSR and therefore, the love of socialism among the young is not surprising. Amazing video man. I can’t believe you only have 41,000 subs. I know you will blow up soon. Keep up the work.

[@shambosaha9727]

Some people don't get that socialism does not simply mean establishing a USSR-esque state. There are different form of socialism, each with their unique benefits and disadvantages.

[@isaaclaf1000]

No dude the Third Reich was worse. Starting WW 2 alone gets you the prize for worst regime in history. Far right apologetics start with this kind of soft excusing the crimes of the Nazis by highlighting other evil people.

[@rtwfreak2012]

That statement is objectively false. The nazis needed only 12 Years to wreak the massive toll that they would force upon the world and, had they ruled as long as the soviets would surely have killed a multitude more.

[@americaninternationalist1917]

This is a bad video

[@lukesalazar9283]

The USSR was the second worst socialist/communist state ever to exist. The USSR perpetrated in the name of and because of socialism/communism are the second worst any state has ever committed

[@BelarusLukashenko]

Good work you do bring a lot of good points, but I disagree with your assessment that the famine that occurred in 1932-1933 was a genocide directed against ethnic Ukrainians. My own personal research of the archives have found no evidence for such a claim as there are no documents in which Stalin ordered the extermination of the Ukrainian people. It is important to understand that the famine occurred in all of the southern fertile areas of the USSR, particularly in Ukraine, southern Russia, Kazakhstan and even reports of famine in Kyrgyzstan. Furthermore, there is no evidence that collectivization disproportionately affected Ukrainians, but rather, all the fertile areas of the USSR were all given ridiculously high quotas which were nearly impossible to fulfill. You are correct that there is a document which gave the order to seal off the Ukrainian SSR for entry or exit but this does not prove genocide. Like any good totalitarian dictatorship, the best way to control the spread of information is to disallow the movement of people in and out of the republics so that information about the famine doesn’t reach other areas of the country such as Moscow or St. Petersburg. I am of the belief that the famine was as a result of a mixture of bad weather conditions, peasants killing farm animals, as well as failed economic policies and mismanagement of the situation. The Soviet regime did not intentionally try to starve its own population, but in fact tried to stop the famine by sending over 5500 tractors to the Ukrainian SSR, lowering the grain quotas from 40% to 14%, 600,000 tons of grain were sent to the Ukrainian SSR, 75 train wagons of fish were sent to Ukraine, and grain exports were decreased by 5x.

[@Whopoopedinmypants]

I would like some sources on this please.

[@klavassassini]

I'd like to see sources on this too

[@toptiercontent7123]

You do know there are no direct documents of Hitler ordering the holocaust?

[@proudtitanicdenier4300]

Bordering off Ukraine as the famine was occurring makes it a genocide against Ukraine

[@user-ps7ue9ky8h]

Stop the music pls

[@leanderbarreto6523]

The red filter over old video at the start is kinda tacky and distracting

[@beangobernador]

I love how cartoonishly evil the ussr is often portrayed as

[@jamesoconnor5908]

Communists are usually as evil as they come really

[@Matthew-jr6nf]

Comrade iron out your flag 🚩

[@CasualHistorian]

I've already given that flag more respect than it deserves

[@Matthew-jr6nf]

@@CasualHistorian good point

[@Piochanel2]

the german flag has the wrong colors..... - bad research

[@ikengaspirit3063]

Eh, Stereotypes have truth to them even if not entirely so.

[@Usual_User]

Did you just try to defend a nazis statement?

[@tommybergqvist7262]

Stalin was even worse than Hitler.

[@BruhMoment-mn9kn]

Stalin and Churchill were genocidal maniacs who achieved a higher death toll between them than even Mao Zedong managed to generate during his reign!

[@mattheworegan5371]

You should do a video on the recurring famines in the region going back hundreds if not thousands of years. They were also pretty terrible

[@mattheworegan5371]

Its so sad that stalin purged all the famines after 1947, because there were none after

[@condaquan9459]

@@mattheworegan5371 didn’t the west begin major exports of grain after the 60s? Not to mention there is plenty of evidence the famine was mad made. I like how you make the same exact argument tankies and other ML’s make “that region is prone to famines” that’s the same as saying “the Jews were treated badly throughout history, why is the holocaust looked at soo much?” People like you sicken me

[@condaquan9459]

I’d also like to add even if somehow you can prove your claim, that does not prove your ideology.

[@jackwilson5542]

Lies, there were no famines there before Bolshevists took over the country. Stop spreading far-left propaganda.

[@proudtitanicdenier4300]

The deaths of those famines combined don't even come close to the death toll of the holodomor in a single year

[@JC-ql3ld]

Не забуваймо, що Голодоморів було ТРИ. 1921-1922, 1932-1933, 1946-1947. Загалом близько шістнадцяти мільйонів наших братів і сестер українців були масово вбиті / геноцидовані комуністичною pосією. Ми ніколи не повинні забувати, хто приніс біль, страждання, нещастя, смерть, Голодомор і комунізм на нашу землю... pосію. Let's not forget there were THREE Holodomors. 1921 to 1922, 1932 to 1933, 1946 to 1947. In total, some sixteen million of our brother and sister Ukrainians were mass murdered / genocided by communist russia. We must never forget who brought the pain, suffering, misery, death, Holodomors and communism to our land...russia.

[@user-wl1uz5sb9f]

This is what I don't get. Stalin committed a crime against humanity by not providing aid, however, it was against the Kulaks, not the Ukrainians, indeed, around all south USSR people starved.

[@knockemoutjohnjustjohn2763]

We should demand that our public schools show these videos and maybe we won't raise another generation of good little socialists like we seem to be saddled with at present.

[@andywomack3414]

This "cover-up" must not have been very effective, as I learned about the millions starved by Soviet policy in elementary school.

[@owenshebbeare2999]

I heard the same in the 1980's but there was a notably drier and softer treatment of Soviet actions, with far less hyperbole than treatment of N@zi actions. It was the early days of the "That wasn't REAL Communism..." movement, at least in Australian education. I was at a Lutheran school, so cultural politics did play a role, and it was a subject of which I became awate after I became an alumn, not a 'mere student', as one parent expressed it. Interesting times.

[@andywomack3414]

@@owenshebbeare2999 I can't remember a time that Stalin and Hitler were not considered comparable in evil. The Soviet contribution and sacrifice toward the defeat of Nazi Germany was acknowledged much less than their crimes against their own people. At least that has been the case, at least until the last decade or so, for my entire life.

[@jackwilson5542]

@@andywomack3414 In the last decade, the cultural M*arxists are trying to rewrite history and keep Stalinist crimes under the rug. You can see it even in this video. It has been a scientific consensus for decades that the amount of victims of Stalinism was in tens of millions. (15M on the low-end and 60M on the high-end of estimates) Lately there have been attempts to reduce it by as much as 10 fold trough historical revisionism. I would put these efforts on same level as holocaust denial- truly disgusting and deplorable behavior.

[@proudtitanicdenier4300]

The soviets sure as hell didn't learn about it.

[@lc-mschristian5717]

And here goes the USA

[@elforeigner3260]

Stalin was like Hitler in steroids

[@angus7278]

Check out BadEmpanada’s video for a more detailed and balanced review of the scholarly work on this subject.

[@iHolly80]

The national socialist party was right wing?

[@owenshebbeare2999]

A common claim, fostered by the victorious International Socialism of the likes of Stalin, Mao, Castro and Kim II Sung. Too many believe it, and since universities were fertile ground for International Socialism, and academics largely write and teach histories, this idea has essentially taken over.

[@carlos_herrera]

Exactly. It was backed by capitalists, military elites and other conservative elements. Members of the British Royal family were fans, and Hitler and Mussolini were also beloved by the American right wing, which prevented Roosevelt and the Democrats from intervening until Germany declared war after Pearl Harbor. After the fact the American right spent billions on a decades-long propaganda campaign emphasizing the false opposition to 'collectivism' of their own ideology, which was basically a self-serving mishmash. Which is why so many idiots online think the 'socialist' in 'national socialist' means Hitler was on the left.

[@iHolly80]

@@carlos_herrera your forgetting some things. World War 1 for a start. And the US had a large german population. It’s all a bit more complicated then your statement. I just always found it odd in school I never heard the their party name once. They were always referred to as nazis. It wasn’t until I was older and I learned the party name. I just find that a little weird. Why would that be left out?

[@carlos_herrera]

@@iHolly80 In what way did I forget World War 1? What does WW1 or a large German immigrant population have to do with the enthusiasm of American capitalists and right wing politicians for Hitler in the 1930s? I personally don't find it weird that the full name of a foreign political party wasn't emphasized in primary school, especially on a topic that comprised a tiny number of classroom hours. College level courses I took on 20th century history talked about the NSDAP in depth, including the 'night of long knives' in which Hitler killed off or expelled the vaguely 'socialist' element in his party. Did you know Hitler modeled his racial laws on the Jim Crow south? (also the birthplace of modern American movement conservatism, not at all coincidentally.) You may also remember Martin Niemoller's poem about the Nazis, which reads 'first they came for the Communists...then they came for the socialists...then they came for the trade unionists...etc.' If a party that is backed by capitalists, the military and the aristocracy, that imprisons and murders leftists such as communists, socialists and trade unionists as a part of its platform while pursuing an intensely nationalist agenda is not right wing, then the term is entirely meaningless. Fascists sometimes refer to themselves as a '3rd way' between right and left, but this is more propaganda, akin to their use of the name socialist. More accurately their program is the fusion of right-wing ideologies with the techniques of mass politics of the 19th/20th centuries.

[@iHolly80]

@@carlos_herrera The majority of the world did not want to see hundreds of thousands of people die again! Appeasement for a lot of people seemed like a better choice then loosing members of their family in Another war. Especially a war they saw as a European problem. Those same people VOTE. Their representative go to Washington. My point was it’s far more nuanced then “it was the capitalist and the right wing of the United States “. Clearly you are far superior and feel the need to educate me. I prefer to have conversations. I merely expressed a thought. But you chose to tell me a bunch of stuff I already know, to insult my intelligence. Well done.

[@Kuudere-Kun]

You minimize the Anarchists to make this work as an Anticommunist narrative, the fact is the Urkrainian resistance to Lenin was dominated by the Anarchists. You also ignore the Mensheviks in order to force a narrative that Authoritarianism was the only route Marxism could go.

[@ikengaspirit3063]

This is a narrative about the Holodomore. Unless you can tell me how the Ukrainian Anarchists and the Mensheviks play a part in that story I don't see how ignoring them is an issue.

[@Kuudere-Kun]

@@ikengaspirit3063 The beginning of the video is very much suggesting it's also about Ukraine in general. And the fact is his agenda in making this video is to say "Communism is no better then Fascism" which is just plain objectively wrong.

[@ikengaspirit3063]

@@Kuudere-Kun It gave some background on why the Holodomore happened in Ukraine and not say, Moscow or Poland. Like why was Ukraine targeted/worse hit by the famine, because it is the main bread basket of Russia and a region of a distinct ethnicity and that is what the beginning of the video chronicled. So I still don't get how the Mensheviks play any park in the story, but I guess Makhnovia and it being Anarchist should have at least gotten a passing mention but that project being Anarchist doesn't matter to this story, the only thing that matters in this story in relation to the Holodomore is that Makhnovia was separatist. Unless you are psychic I don't know where you get that idea from. Did he in anywhere in this video compare communism/USSR to Fascism/Nazis? Because I don't see it.

[@themaximus144]

I'm with Ikenga on this one buddy. You seem to be jumping to some conclusions jared.

[@gyeppmester]

all the propaganda books :)

[@user-km3ht6hk2f]

🫡🇺🇦

[@user-km3ht6hk2f]

ruzzian it is