CONSTELLATION Episode 8 Breakdown | Ending Explained, Season 2 Theories & Review | APPLE TV+

CONSTELLATION Episode 8 Breakdown | Ending Explained, Season 2 Theories & Review | APPLE TV+. We breakdown and explain the latest Apple TV science fiction psychological thriller streaming series for Apple TV. We talk about and breakdown episode 8, ending explained, theories, and our reaction & review of this latest Apple TV science fiction psychological thriller streaming series, starring Noomi Rapace, Jonathan Banks, James D'Arcy & MORE!
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VIDEO INFORMATION
Constellations’s final episode did exactly what everyone was hoping for… Confused the heck outta things even more **NO NO NOOO
I mean there are some kooky things brewing, weird theories we have, our reaction/review of this first season, along with some thoughts on what a potential Season 2 may have in store for Constellation viewers like you, so strap in!
Kicking things off, this episode is all about The Shining. Yes Stephen King’s famous novel, but more specifically Stanley Kubrick’s 1980 screen adaptation, as this finale episode features some haunting music, similarly to the movie along with a winding road, an ominous building in the middle of nowhere, which seems to be haunted by unexplainable things, creepy twins being one of them, a man maniacally swinging an ax, amongst other things, soo uhh the more you know.
Anyway Jo is rushed off to Irena’s secret secluded medical facility, something we had theorized last week, and learn that this is the Beelitz Sanatorium, recognized by the Red Army memorial statute. Now in our world, this is currently abandoned, essentially a ghost town, with an odd history. For example, Adolf Hitler actually stayed and recovered here at one time, whereas in the lore of the show aka the Blue Universe, it appears the buildings were never fully abandoned. The architecture is surprisingly coincidental, because I saw these circle windows symbolizing the two universes at play, and the middle being the liminal state we witnessed with the cabin.
Things happen fairly quickly in this opening, and I personally think the stress of Jo undergoing these mysterious procedures, combined with the anger of Bud smashing the CAL, allowed the liminal space to thin, and a potential shift happened again, for example the freaking ALIVE Jo with half a face at the end of this episode. So let’s just jump to it, the ending shows the Jo that was left up in space, with what looks like a damn bear clawed half of her face off. The interesting thing is this might be the blue universe. Yes we know Red and Blue Jo’s switched initially, but the iPad image shows Jo and Alice wearing a blue sweater, something that we concluded back in episode 1 to be the blue universe. I also chalk this up as THIS Jo was the one who helped both Paul and Jo with the ISS escape pod clamps.
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[@JBuckStudios]

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[@ObsessiveGeek]

I loved your comparison with The Shining, to expand upon that; Outlook Hotel is a place where lost souls go and drives people to madness much like what is happening to Jo and Paul. The biggest reveal is the CAL apparently forces accents to occur, the existence of multiple realities isn’t dependent on this device. The finale definitely went in an unexpected direction, season two I’m guessing will focus in the baby/s that Jo has in her womb, these I feel will be a biological replacement to the CAL. Bud seems to have a plan too, will be interesting to see how his story develops. This show s without a doubt my current favourite, I’m going to rewatch it all now to see what else I can find. Look forward to hearing your thoughts on the series as a whole.

[@Obsidian-Nebula]

That wasn't Gagarin. It was supposed to be the secret first one who crashed in china and they locked him up

[@cpmow831]

The girl who played Alice did an amazing job.

[@JBuckStudios]

They were twins too!

[@vhelma21945]

They were Amazing, right!

[@JoseluisLopez-bx7dd]

Yes, these twins are stars in their on right. Megastars of the future, incredible actresses at such young age.

[@jdeveraux1027]

the reveal of Yuri was probably supposed to be the "big scary moment" in last night's episode but that isnt what freaked me out. It was the constant dead/alive Irena shots that spooked me. Also, the scene where Jo quotes the tape (in russian) and that look on Irena's face? THAT was the scene I kept playing back ...that was FREAK!Y!!!

[@darthgzuz]

Irena knows this dual universe cross over ...

[@Obsidian-Nebula]

That wasn't Gagarin. They said before that there was another cosmonaut who was sent even earlier and then crashed in china

[@jackyoung8059]

I like the part where Bud becomes the lisan al gaib, a mind powerful enough to bridge space and time

[@carlosponchio1869]

that was good. the only to comprehend this mess is to turn into lisan Al Gaib yourself.

[@BryanMiraflor]

lmao

[@jackyoung8059]

Bud may have had enough mind power to bridge time and space but couldn’t save the show from being canceled🥲 2024-2024 rip Bud

[@Weirdgus]

I’m happy this garbage got cancelled though, literally nothing made sense in the second half anymore and no explination was even hinted at, good riddance

[@kristineclevenger6705]

I quickly give Constellation a rating of 9 out of 10. For me, episode 8 was excellent, as it furthered our understanding of key people but also keeps us wondering what will unfold next in season 2. Blue Alice continues to be a stabilizing force open to possibilities. She will have sibling challenges with the new brother/sister, as she goes down the rabbit hole in the next season. I do believe Paul switched personalities with his other self, when we see him in the hospital surveying 2 whole arms. This is all brilliant to me because of my personal experiences with a now deceased schizophrenic friend who impacted my life maybe forever. Mirror universes, parallel universes with multiple dimensions & mind perceptions are all very real. Who are we - any of us?

[@MaryGarito]

Interesting viewpoint! I agree, I definitely give the show 9/10 and liked ep 8 quite a bit. The fact that Blue Alice comes to the realization that she and wrong mom need each other is reassuring but also interesting. Interesting in that, in the future, perhaps they could work together to find answers or switch the world back correctly.

[@JoseluisLopez-bx7dd]

@@MaryGarito Why Apple cancelled this show?, was excellent, in every aspect. 10/10

[@leslielorenzana]

I love how trippy it was. I feel like they were trying to make us feel what Jo was feeling. I love this show so much I am watching it for the third time. At times Blue Magnus gets on my last nerve, but otherwise I love this show. Can’t wait for the next season!

[@JBuckStudios]

Awesome and couldn't agree more!

[@leslielorenzana]

@@JBuckStudios Ooh. I just thought of something. If Blue Jo is somehow still alive in the liminal world, maybe dead Irena purposely caused the accident when she hit the space station.

[@warrick3w881]

Oh shit...u are so right about Paul! I was wondering what I missed in that scene but thats it. He seemed surprised that he has both hands. Also The space station is the box and Jo is Schodinger's cat.... literally!! She is dead and alive at the same time. Also i think because Jo is from the red universe and got pregnant by Magnus who is from the blue universe Jo is now able to see into both universe more clearly. Hence y she saw 2 men in the room and when Irena touched her she saw Valya. Notice Jo's ultrasound imaging is the same imaging the cal was giving off in the 1st few episodes. I can't wait for season 2

[@thedarkuk248]

More like a memory switch than the person himself switching dimensions, which means the baby isn't from another universe, just in blue Jo body which also has red Jo memories

[@MartinGonzalvez]

That’s not Yuri Gagarin. In episode 3 Ilya mentions a rumor that the real first man in space was Vladimir Ilyushin, but upon returning to earth, he crashed in China, and so the Soviets retrieved him and then locked him up.

[@JBuckStudios]

100% you're correct. I forgot about that

[@nyccoyax3831]

And the guy working with Jo is also called Ilya.. coincidence?

[@epo1980]

To be honest I am pissed of big time, because most of the events in this episode just doesn't make sense.

[@JBuckStudios]

There’s no rules so almost anything can happen without reason

[@epo1980]

@@JBuckStudios I mean we did not get any answer. Especially, at the end, the blue Jo in the ISS can NOT be alive. With those injuries it is impossible to survive. She bled out.

[@ObsessiveGeek]

@@epo1980Seems like “madness” right? Much like the fact the we have two separate yet connected realities simultaneously.

[@Lsjladychic]

Enjoyed it, I watch several of Apple TV series, so I figured it will end it on a cliffhanger just not one so less broad. Lol Sci-fi is my favorite genre of movies and books. Thank you I enjoyed your reviews, commentary, & endings explained. Out of all that I watch, yours were the one that had me go back and noticed things that I missed so I look forward to following you on other reviews and of course season two of constellation.

[@rhocke4590]

Hear, hear!

[@DNotzz]

I like the idea of the Joe at the end being both alive and dead at the same time. I think they have much bigger ideas and wormholes they want to go down. And I think whatever they did, smashing the cal, going to the cabin, it sort of created that Joe.

[@phillylady]

The reason Bud’s and Stanley’s DNA are the same is because they’re the same person in superpositions. This show is really Schrödinger’s quantum physics theory.

[@KarlaOvalle]

I do think the show is implying that when you die, there is no heaven or hell (ergo no God) - rather, your consciousness - which is an unknown state of matter/energy has to go somewhere. If you die in SPACE, then your consciousness somehow hangs in a liminal space able to exist in various timelines/realities.

[@K-a-i.]

why would that matter if you die in Space? Earth is also kind of in Space.

[@creatixstudios8889]

What.

[@thedarkuk248]

I disagree because Henry and Pad are both alive even after using the call device and being in space

[@mullr.]

I am a little sad that we are left with more questions than answers, but I enjoy the journey so far. I don't want to believe that those were editing errors regarding the timestamps. iPads, monitors, and cellphones receive a lot of focus, as if they were meant to show us something.

[@filmbuff-dh9kb]

Yes…time was changing fast when Joe was in space trying to fix things…she lost some time didn’t she? I’m sure timestamps were intentional.

[@ChrisEOlive]

Great pickups on The Shining and some other movie parallels. Agree on Paul’s - they’ve swapped. Agree that raises questions. Jo’s eye isn’t blind. It’s actually the opposite; she’s taken on Blue Jo’s eye and she can now at times see into both universes. That’s how she saw two Vlad’s in the room instead of one. Also why she kept flash seeing The Valya which is the first time she’s been seen outside of some liminal space like the dreamscape. Jo’s eye can see her at times now. Watch this play out in season 2. Great stuff!

[@mullr.]

That's quite an interesting perspective.

[@selimah197]

Really good point with this eye thing👍

[@LeonBosset]

Maybe destroying the CAL doesn't do anything because the tear between the two universes is already there. What I hate about this type of show is that we have to wait a year for more answers. Who is going to remember details?

[@Devilsfan118]

We're lucky if it'll be a year. Severance season 2 still isn't out and that was aired in, what, 2021?

[@ObsessiveGeek]

The show isn’t about answers though, you’re watching for the wrong reasons if that’s all you seek.

[@LeonBosset]

Then why pose questions? If you want a show with no answers, I suggest Lost.😊

[@ObsessiveGeek]

@LeonBosset Lost gave answers and they were EXTREMELY unsatisfactory

[@LeonBosset]

​@@ObsessiveGeekReally? What were the drawings that showed up under black light?

[@alexthorne38]

the pills keep them in place and stops them changing persona\diffrent versions

[@richardmorgan1588]

I thought it was obvious that this is the other Paul waking up and noticing his two arms!

[@JBuckStudios]

I guess not 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@stewartfox4798]

Ive seen other theories about this. But you imply that Bud and Henry swapped only once. However i believe Bud and Henry first swapped initially back on Apollo 18. So Bud was bitter because it was him that saved his crewmates, however he was swapped to a timeline where they had died and he was living with the consequense of this. Thus Bud sets his revenge plan up to kill Ian on the boat and shoot Paul. He then switches back over again to the timeline he originated. We view Bud as the bad guy, and hes done some nasty stuff, but he was the original Henry/Bud that saved his crewmates on Apollo 18 and did not get any of the praise or rewards from that.

[@Obsidian-Nebula]

It was straight up said he switched on Apollo 18

[@LoveRetroBTW]

You're so right about Paul being the other Paul! No other recap I've watched said that. Kudos.

[@JBuckStudios]

Ayyyee appreciate it! Yeah it’s definitely him

[@ObsessiveGeek]

Really? It's pretty clear Paul has been swapped

[@LoveRetroBTW]

@@ObsessiveGeek I get that but in the first watch I just thought he was in shock. So, maybe others caught it but I didn’t at first watch.

[@ObsessiveGeek]

@LoveRetroBTW He is. The last thing he remembers is being in space without an arm.

[@LoveRetroBTW]

@@ObsessiveGeek I know I def see that now but yeah freakin awesome - no idea how that worked but hoping for season 2

[@phrozenliquidz]

07:45 - I don't agree that Magnus reaches that conclusion at all. He thinks Jo is crazy and needs to get better, he definitely doesn't buy in to the multiple universe theory at least not at this point in the show. 09:45 - I am more inclined to believe that Bud just wants to live the lavish life he sees as his rightfully deserved life more than having a sinister plan. I view visiting Ian Rogers as and wishing him well as a way of self absolution for the murder he committed. Now that Ian is alive in this universe, he can wash away his guilt and kind of pretend he gets a do-over. 11:49 - If you "know the rules" you know all instances of people swapping have been under high stress and life and death situations, all of which is present at the time of the Paul swap. So it definitely isn't too shocking if that's what happened. 14:08 - you mentioned a lot of time stamps and you are definitely on to something but you missed the date on the sonogram reading 1/2/2010... which would be close to Alice's birth... possible production mistake? seems unlikely given everything else you've pointed out.

[@ObsessiveGeek]

Not completely, he knows “something is off” it’s putting that all on simply Jo going crazy though he’s had several experiences himself he cannot understand. I agree he’s not in the same mental space as Alice, but overall both are on a “let’s just accept this” path which seems to be where Jo is headed too (though baby will likely complicate matters once more). Strong disagree on Bud, he’s flaunting a victory over Henry and gave Rodgers flowers like you would if visiting a grave whilst laughing maniacally…he couldn’t be any more sinister! All the characters have found some type of resolution, and have found themselves thrust into a new direction though so curious to see how this will impact the story going forward.

[@kristineclevenger6705]

The date of the sonogram reading, 1/2/2010, is certainly significant. I found the place in the episode where the sonogram is shown, & I'm unable to read the blurry date. My vision isn't sharp & clear, but yours must be. Let's see if the channel host confirms your observation. Thanks!

[@ObsessiveGeek]

@@kristineclevenger6705 Hmm, nothing about that date in history seems significant. Though we do have some space related news for that date: www.nasa.gov/image-article/planet-six/

[@laurette_p763]

I don't think Bud is evil, keep in mind he was living in Henry's universe with Henry's choices and forced to live the consequences. don't forget watching Henry praised for his (Bud) heroic act for years. I think Bud deserves to live in his original universe. hopefully Henry won't be in prison for long.

[@ObsessiveGeek]

@byjamesosborne That's essentially the entire concept of the series. Realities begin in very similar places, and a crossroad occurs that creates divergent events. People are rarely only good or only evil, though Bud has definitely become twisted by his choices.

[@HollywoodLife4]

Not throwing “Deep” in there at 7:43 😂😂

[@JBuckStudios]

Had to do it 😅

[@hugheffo]

I did love the Schrödinger's cat reference where in the cabin there is both a live and dead cat

[@phillylady]

This was also shown with the final scene of Jo in space; she’s alive and dead (this is the accepted representation of Alice).

[@robertszilva1304]

Paul, whos alive in red and shot by Bud is the Paul that died in blue. He just don't remember dying. Now he remembered...

[@victors16811]

I didn’t get that there were 3 different recorder devices and toys… Btw love to see the concept of quantum entangled: you can not describe the state of one particle independently from the other regardless of the distance

[@gelasticseizure]

Not sure you lined up the Changeling correctly. It would be more that Jo is taking care of the Alice that is not her child, and her child is missing. Also, there are 3 universes...one that's blue, one that's red, and one that's in between the two. Henry said so in one of the episodes, and there are three Jo's.

[@datboytheo]

I believe we are seeing at least 3 dimensions. There could be more that will show up later because...why not? The time skipping, date swapping, could all be the fact that they are melting all the universes with the CAL unknowingly. Bud amashing it could help stabilize for now until another one is made in another universe? This is a kool show IMO and i want to find out all these answers to the questions.

[@datboytheo]

I have watched a few of the theories videos on KZbin. I may be wrong, but we know at least 3.

[@pete6705]

Just finished this show. Really loved it. So sad to see they cancelled season 2. So many answers we’ll never get

[@JBuckStudios]

Same! I felt like they were really getting things going

[@CloserNorthPhoto]

This is the best recap explanation I’ve watched.

[@jimmyolsenblues]

i loved this season, sad to see show go.

[@ulfingvar1]

Go? There might very well be at least one more season.

[@JBuckStudios]

We'll see if a Season 2 is announced or not

[@planreview]

anyone getting LOST 2.0 vibes? Like we’ll never have answers?

[@georgepanayotov5288]

We got all the answers. What did you missed

[@ozz44755]

Great series... The CAL did work in folding space and time between two different universes... Albeit to create its own iteration... Having the Red and Blue universes contained within it... So, just one Purple universe... However when individual actions intermingle with the Red and Blue universes... it shifts the timeline for both & down the rabbit hole we go :)

[@xyreniaofcthrayn1195]

About the timestamp "errors" they aren't they are the time codes of each nation on earth and depending on which capsule you are in the russian, usa, china, any other space agency doing stuff on lease and the technically ancient equipment that hasn't been updated except in repairs since its inception the iss also circles the earth in 80 minute cycles 40 in sunlight 40 in dark (in the show) we're looking at a forty minute lag between universes between the iss and earth with shorter lag times if both R/B are on the iss or groundside.

[@selimah197]

Hey, it was super to follow this first season along with your videos👍 If you or anybody can help with this- I still CANNOT understand: 1. How comes that after the ISS incident and switching to blue universe, RedJo is totally fine with the image on her ipad showing blue Alice and blue Jo... 2- When she is asked to retrieve the CAL before leaving the ISS, the same RedJo did it without asking any questions as she knew what it was. 3- When RedJo in the blue universe goes to ESA building to test her pills, she witnesses a scene where Bud is sitting at Henry's desk while this one is trapped behind the screen- how is that possible? I mean it seems that they have already switched. 4- The scene at the Star City planted trees garden- RedJo in Blue universe and BlueJo in Reduniverse interaction does not match and they don't see each other as they supposed to. 5- At the cabin, Bud in the Blueuniverse (after switching) drops bluealice and collapses- we can even see his body in an aerial scene so the whole crew coming to rescue bluealice should have seen him too. So what they just let him there unconscious in the snow?? 6- I get the liminal approach and the fact that BlueJo pushed the button in both red and blue realities and IS now in her own blue reality (because of the ipad). So is that zombie BlueJo back from the deads? Bluejo who did not die because time passed differently for her? Or a third purpleJo not dead not alive like the cat in the box actually? 7- Also I guess only minds switches realities, so why Henry is sure to have a different DNA??

[@hat3th3hat3r2]

One thing i am curious about is the other joe still alive because she was left up there or is she alive because she has become Schrodinger's cat? If the first circumstance is true then we really need to know if paul was cremated or not. Because he might still be alive somehow. But If Joe is the cat then she isn't really alive but she isn't definitively dead either and that's fun to think about....

[@JBuckStudios]

I think you've brought up an interesting conundrum, because last week the cat was heavily shown meaning maybe it's something we need to focus on moving forward? So like you said, Jo is the new cat? I like it

[@hat3th3hat3r2]

@JBuckStudios well that and not being alive or dead could be how she can maybe be in the iss of both dimensions simultaneously. Wait I wonder if because everyone knows that Paul is dead he can't do what Joe is doing....oh darn I wonder if because he is the whole reason. He thought she could still be alive and left her therefore SHE COULD BE. yikes that's meta af

[@JBuckStudios]

Honestly I need some rules set up, because if people are dead only to be alive again, that's going to confused a LOT of people lol @@hat3th3hat3r2

[@ObsessiveGeek]

​@hat3th3hat3r2 Valya is known to be VERY dead, yet keeps appearing. I don't think even known/perceived "death" is enough to prevent someone from existing as long as another part of them is alive.

[@filmbuff-dh9kb]

Henry having the same dna as Bud after the switch proves that it’s the consciousness that can travel back n forth…not bodies. It appears that when someone dies in space, their consciousness could still be alive

[@fadli55]

What I wanna know is how come the iPad screen is still on all this time & why it haven't it ran out of battery yet?

[@Unrigged7-Urchin0-Spoken4]

Just read Apple have pulled the plug on Season 2 😔 i had a feeling it wouldn't get renewed as it never seemed to place too highly in Apple TV+'s top 10 but i'm still sad... really enjoyed it...

[@darthgzuz]

It's a beautiful show, may be Cal bridging between two quantum entangled universes ... May be not Quantum entangled universes but alternate universes bridged by CAL ... Very interesting story

[@ObsessiveGeek]

That's essentially the same thing.

[@speedracer9132]

Time is not editing mistake because during Paul’s hearing (I think ep 6) you can also see 2023 date on a monitor

[@bagobitz]

Sure its Yuri Gregarin? I thought a previous episode indicated that USSR had another cosmonaut (prior to Yuri) that had an accident and it was covered up and the cosmonaut was taken and hidden somewhere...

[@salocin74]

Bud (from 2021) has an iPhone 14 Pro or 15, too, neither of which were available in 2021...

[@gagikazizyan1754]

there was nor Yuri Gagarin. in film they say said that Ilyushin was the first man in the second ( i think in 3rd episode)

[@jimmyolsenblues]

I am very sad this was cancelled.

[@thedarkuk248]

My theorie is that the call device transforms memory, that's why Henry had Blood on his Hands after he switched dimensions, which means that the baby is not from another Dimension nor the characters, only thier memories.

[@davidjacquemotte6850]

Did you notice “Schrodinger’s” alive and dead cat in the liminal state cabin?

[@Sechari]

I don’t think the men in the asylum are Gargarin - a few episodes ago they mentioned there was actually another cosmonaut who had gone to space first, but he came down in China so the whole thing was covered up.

[@jonsaboe5372]

I just don't think there were 4 entire weeks from Jo's return to episode 8. That would put her conception back on the station. Paul's baby?

[@pf8143]

The writers are painting themselves in a corner.

[@jm844]

I was satisfied with the entire series, surprised by the ending but hopeful. I understood the concept of acceptance for what is because nothing entirely stays the same and that life once had can never be again no matter what. To take what is left with gratitude and work with it sharing the moment of change with someone close still leaves that emptiness and hopelessness lingering, but it is what is and it's all that you have to hold on to to keep that wasting sanity at bay. Looking forward to the second season, the hanging ending left me hungry for more . The living corps out there, I think it's a nightmare of her multiverse, the death remains apart of her as she shifted into another reality . Theoretically for every decision we make and will make creates a different outcome and branches of into a superposition which in turn is a recipe for multiple realities. There could be so many different outcomes to the next season, innumerable number of outcomes. Every theory is technically possible. I'm looking forward to seeing what is chosen.

[@pete6705]

They cancelled the 2nd season. It’s over

[@benpayne7193]

The CAL is a red herring. I think it has more to do with simultaneous desolation and trauma.

[@BryanMiraflor]

Episodes 1 through 4: GREAT Episode 5: okay Episodes 6 through 8: WHAT IS GOING ON

[@BR-ex9xp]

You could switch up all those show numbers and still get your same captions though, lol. Great show overall.

[@BryanMiraflor]

@@BR-ex9xp idk 1-4 was intriguing. But the end got weird. Especially the finale. Could’ve been better.

[@Moonboy9001]

I'm thinking there's 3 realities at play here, I guess we'll see in season 2

[@ObsessiveGeek]

There is. The third is "Liminal State" (aka aspects of both realities) hence the cabin was both on fire and wasn't.

[@TheQuincyEdwards]

There won’t be a revisit to a season two for me. I hate shows like Lost, Twin Peaks, etc. that just throw confusion at the viewer with no explanation. It’s pretentious.

[@ObsessiveGeek]

Lost gave plenty of answers, though none were that satisfying. Personally, for me it's the mystery that drives shows like this.

[@BR-ex9xp]

Will Jo confront Paul about lieing to ISS that she was dead? That’s another question for season 2

[@tehmi9036]

I don't understand if the majority of the audiences cannot understand the show, the events are not in proper sequence then how can we enjoy these kinds of shows??

[@CandysChannel]

Not everyone will hon but I enjoy it

[@Icelandlover]

Season 2 will never happen. Season 1 was a confusing mess. I can’t imagine anyone waisting their valuable life watching a new season.

[@jimmyolsenblues]

are we getting another season?

[@JBuckStudios]

Nothing is confirmed as of now, but it’s set up for a season 2

[@chrissy212e]

It was an interesting show, but tbh, not really for me. I was disappointed with the ending, but I enjoyed this show much more than the three body problems.I need a comedy or something lighthearted now after all these thought-provoking and hard to follow shows lol. Thank you for all the recaps they were really helpful.😊

[@mavelous1763]

No one, NO ONE…can play a seriously stressed out woman better than Noomi Rapace. Tremendous actress with utterly unique features

[@kristijan8518]

I don't think Jo is really pregnant. It's probably something else that has to do with shifting from one universe to another. Henry already mentioned people from different universe have different DNA. So maybe there are more anatomical differences that cause interference

[@nermanus]

Jo and Irena and, I guess, Paul, are all quantum entangled with their alternate universe counterparts. That's why "dead" Irena and "dead" Jo are actually still alive because they are entangled with their alive versions and I guess being alive is stronger than being dead so that state is chosen, instead of them both being dead, I dunno? "Dead" Paul is then buried alive, I guess. Only Henry and Bud are able to switch bodies because they are both alive, but I suppose alive Jo could enter her "dead" Jo body because the brain is supposedly preserved? Maybe because her body didn't rot on the ISS, lack of bacteria or something? Also, there are totally 3 universes, the Fisher Price cassette player is quantum entangled too and we saw one melt in the previous episode, but now there are 2 intact ones, so the 3rd melted I guess. Oh yeah, the CAL supposedly has nothing to do with these shifts because how did Gagarin, Irena and Henry switch universes before CAL was invented, unless CAL works across space and time?

[@ObsessiveGeek]

I felt like the melting cassette was a bit of a plot hole, though I guess one is actually "dead" but is perceived to be fine because the other is...maybe?

[@nermanus]

@@ObsessiveGeek I still think it's the 3rd cassette player from the liminal universe.

[@ObsessiveGeek]

@@nermanus The Liminal State shouldn't make an active choice. It is contradictory to the concept of being a place that is both/neither states simultaneously. For example the Liminal State cabin was both burnt (from the fire) and not, the cat inside was both dead and alive. It also had both paintings on either side of the wall. For the cassette to be melted that HAD to occur in one of the active realities NOT the bridge between them.

[@nermanus]

@@ObsessiveGeek hm, yeah, makes sense. Maube it is a plot hole but they did everything else so tight, I doubt it. If the second player was melted and quantum entangled with the working one, it should look melted but still be working, like space Jo looking messed up but still alive.

[@ObsessiveGeek]

@@nermanus Yep…hence plot hole. I’m very confident that is the established logic in regard to how the Liminal Space (Purple Reality) operates. There’s a few other plot points that don’t quite make 100% sense though I’m going to do a complete season rewatch to see if anything is clearer with foresight.

[@juanfigueroa4989]

I may be against the current here, but i didn't like this final episode. I didn't feel the suspense and emotions of the other episodes, felt like a filler episode for me with a bunch of things that dont make sense. I don't like the direction it went. 3 Body Problem started as a mess, but everything fit at the end.

[@cyanid3311]

No it is not a editing mistake you are forgetting this is a APPLE TV show and a lot of attention to detail goes into the apple products they wont just " miss time" the IPAD it is 100% intentional

[@nounous01]

The scene with Magnus x2 has only 1 psychiatrist. Is it just to make the shot cooler or is it a clue ?

[@ObsessiveGeek]

The psychiatrist is sitting in the centre in the perspective of both realities with one mangus sitting to the left side and the other to the right. In other words it's just a cool shot.

[@troublefollows9986]

Swap with who? Paul does not have another Paul alive. Unless its liminal version of paul. Blue paul had his left arm cut so why is this new paul looking at both arms shocked.

[@ObsessiveGeek]

For lack of a better term the consciousness of Paul swapped. We literally have an apparently dead woman constantly appearing to other characters…if she can exist then nothing is out of the question.

[@filmbuff-dh9kb]

@@byjamesosbornethat’s a perfect explanation

[@existentity3476]

Yes, I think Paul switched. And I think it's possible he could switch back. I think season 2 will play around with liminal space more. Furthermore, I believe that we'll see a new technology, this time from Russia, that serves as a kind of "anti-CAL", allowing whoever has it to control the connection between alternate worlds. Imagine the power of such a device.

[@carlosponchio1869]

I am glad it is over. I am persistent but I should have abandoned this whole enchilada after episode 2. Too much energy devoted trying to comprehend this jumble of scenes. Do the actors even know what is happening. It is like 8 directors each picked one episode and decided to do their own version of things. what a mess.

[@MrGrandure]

So I need to be as smart as batman to figure this show out

[@MYTHQUEST91]

what pisses me off most is that Jo acting like a complete idiot who got no clue to whats happening or calm down and think it through. Jo is an astronaut. she is supposed at least to guess about to whats happening to her as anybody sane would know there cant be two of the same person somewhere except that she is shifting through multiverse. whatever the hell, now i cant wait for season 2.

[@nirachien2274]

Why would she think that when she's being told by everyone around her that she's acting crazy. Anyone who continues to believe in the multiple reality ends up like the other guy at the treatment centre.

[@MYTHQUEST91]

@@byjamesosborne yeah i guess you are right. hopefully we will get some decent answers in season 2

[@Ach7ven]

They tossed this season finale...

[@kristijan8518]

How did Alice got involved with the alternate universe? Only astronauts have suffered this phenomenon, no one else on earth. I don't understand how it happened to Alice.

[@karakenio]

The preview image is too spoilerous =/

[@karakenio]

How can I silence/mute an account in KZbin? #help

[@fedepetit]

Well, 2º season was cancelled

[@Bootsie642]

This whole show confused me. By the end I was bored with it.

[@julianfernando19]

A Jô que sofreu acidente n espaço pode ter trocado com a Jô que sobreviveu por isso ela pegou o iPad e soltou a cápsula para o outro astronauta. Esse outro astronauta trocou com a versão dele que sobreviveu e soltou a cápsula para a Jô. Não acho que as duas versões da Jo estejam vivas.

[@LeoSilvaworldchannel]

As duas estão vivas,

[@GraphiteSC]

Why on earth would you put the last scenes spoiler in the thumbnail and it’s only been a few hours since it was released…

[@GraphiteSC]

@@byjamesosborne I don’t even know what the episode was about, nothing was confirmed yet. Popped open KZbin to check something completely unrelated out and the first thing in my feed was this thumbnail - I have zero control over that. Nothing was confirmed yet, I sighed and then went and watched the episode over lunch, which I was planning to do after work. Common sense about watching first before coming on KZbin is a hard disagree. Life doesn’t revolve around this show, or all other content someone may watch. They saved that shot for last for a reason, It was impactful and a confirmation, like you said. That build up was taken from me with the thumbnail. I like this channel’s content, but I’m sorry, that was a straight up spoiler. Not even 12 hours later, people don’t even have time to sleep and go to work and watch when they are free? C’mon guy… Spoiler culture is real, not even a days grace anymore. If that’s what this channel does all I can do is thumbs down and block the channel and move on with my day, maybe more people will do the same, maybe they won’t.

[@CandysChannel]

This is why, I NEVER look on KZbin before I actually finish a show’s episode because I know a spoiler can be revealed from anywhere. You made a choice to come to this YT video before watching episode 8 which was unwise!

[@GraphiteSC]

@@CandysChannel Read what I said again. I did not make a choice to come to this video before watching. It was pushed to me in my recommendation feed. I will be blocking the channel, because you are right - I control the content I receive. Just unfortunate that KZbin doesn’t have a filter to block stuff with keywords I can control ahead of time, and it has to be spoiled first before I know who to block.

[@KarlaOvalle]

Why wasn’t Irena freaked out when she learned Henry/Bud switched?

[@JBuckStudios]

Good question. I wonder if she just doesn’t care because of her cancer?

[@georgepanayotov5288]

Because the chief officer of Roskosmos showing 3motion about that will put her in one of the cells if the facility she runs

[@georgepanayotov5288]

@@byjamesosborne yeah, that one too. Yet I'm not sure this is how it works. Qs the show is grounded in science as much as possible, the adrenaline rush from a strong emotional response might make people more sensitive to the reality overlap. But that explains why they were dozing them with lithium. IMO the cognitive swap was supported by the CAL existing in one of the realities and never been created in the other. Busting him severed the connection, and made people go back to their original bodies.

[@georgepanayotov5288]

@@byjamesosborne in the reality where Paul arrives they explain that call was created decades ago and abandoned, because it failed as experiment. We can presume it actually worked, but they couldn't observe it, as it did in Jo 2nd reality. But it chained some events, leading to Irena and Calderq switching. Thats why Irena reacted so distressed when Jo started repeating the Russian recording. She was in space and dying, triggering a switch. And as there is time bending, hinted on several occasions, caldera messing with the cal in the early 80 in one reality might affect another in the mid 70s

[@gene1star]

The Thanos universe baby. The Thanos will be born into this universe.

[@sahedhasan6203]

Should i watch this series?

[@fedepetit]

No, it was cancelled

This show is disturbing confusing. Too many great plot lines to be unraveled so and lackadaisically. This could’ve been a 10/10 series. Just so bad at explaining such cool concepts

[@sonidojamon]

I think Bud destroying the CAL is what switched "Pauls"

[@creatixstudios8889]

Uh, no.

[@SneakyCrunch]

Trollmars vaggasang? xD

[@JBuckStudios]

I tried my bestest 😩

[@frommytravels]

i regret wasting hours of my valuable life sitting through 8 episodes of this

[@sahedhasan6203]

I thought there are 3 universe

[@ST-ry7lr]

Enjoyed the show, but ultimately disappointed. Even in a show that can extend to additional seasons, the penultimate episode should start to bring focus and clarity, but episode 7 just confirmed things that were obvious by episode 2, and instead added more mystery and confusion. And the final episode doubled down and did the same. It's hard enough to tell a sensible story about the multiverse, and adding non-linear story telling made it worse. I'd like to see a second season, but it needs to have better focus and improved pacing. Otherwise, it's just a 3 hour story that's stretched over 8, 16, or more episodes.

[@PerfectoKiss]

The show should not get a 2nd season!

[@jacobmcbeth6922]

They purposely made this show extra confusing to stretch it out for multiple seasons

[@JBuckStudios]

Haha you think so?

[@ehulbert5]

This could have been completely resolved in one season, but the writers mucked things up enough to setup a second season. I hope this shallow shit gets canceled.

[@sosavwitdabag2530]

You didn’t like it that’s cool…but why do you hope it gets canceled? As if it has any effect whatsoever on your life? Plenty of people who do like the show but most importantly this is actually the people who worked on this shows employment, means of income, and the chance to do something they love. You want them to lose their opportunity just because you don’t like it? Really? Who are they hurting exactly??…

[@1rwjwith]

WTF? WTF? WTF?….My honest reaction …However I am intrigued by this show.. just to compare I like this show way better than the SciFy “ 3 Body Problem” on Netflix . But I have no idea what is exactly happening here on Constellation! For instance it seems to be saying that everyone who goes into space comes back Crazy…the doppelgänger thing seems to be their loved ones too…so WTF!

[@universalcollective427]

when you put a major spoiler in the thumbnail, that people can't avoid seeing, you get blocked mfer

[@CandysChannel]

Nothing forced you to come to KZbin, so you made an unwise choice that the YTber is not responsible for.

[@batmoto13]

Work of art, cancelled. Wasn’t reaching high enough viewership to satisfy Apple executives.

[@Frank-DuxVanDamme]

Not everything have to be mind weight lifting to be good. And the end? What's with that? Dumb.

[@sirloin869]

is her ring finger rotten,while typing iut email...

[@SamuelKYu]

A Mystery Thriller disguised as a sci-fi show, the writers are obviously out of their depths as the plots in ep 7 and ep 8 hardly make any logical sense within the minimum requirement for the show to be considered sci-fi.

[@JBuckStudios]

One of the biggest issues is that “rules” were never established. At this point things can happen and I guess that’s okay?

[@BR-ex9xp]

You’re labeling the show instead of actually enjoying how clever it is. That’s a shame.

[@SamuelKYu]

Such a shame a "clever" show get's cancelled.

[@SamuelKYu]

Anything could happen indeed! Get's cancelled😂

[@secrecysmith5001]

things are unresolved... lame if fr just 8 ep.

[@evgenxpp]

to me, this tv series appears highly irrational and contradicts common logic and physics

[@ObsessiveGeek]

The Fi of Sci-Fi stands for fictional. It's not supposed to reflect reality

[@evgenxpp]

​@@ObsessiveGeek While Sci-Fi is fictional, it's crucial for its world, lore, rules, and limitations to be well-developed and logically connected. Authors such as Stanislaw Lem, William Gibson and many others excel in this aspect. While strict realism isn't necessary, a coherent and well-constructed world greatly enhances the enjoyment of the genre. Unfortunately, this TV show falls short in that regard. Hopefully, it will be improved in the next season BTW: In the show, there's a child's tape recorder. It's puzzling why Alice can communicate with a different version of herself from another universe using this recorder. Logically, as the authors described, only people experienced in space should be affected by quantum effects (perhaps due to quantum spins?). Initially, the authors showed that the CAL device can decrypt recordings from other universes, leading me to believe this is the reason it could affect everything around. However, later on, the device crashes while the tape recorder continues to function. This is just one example among many others.

[@ObsessiveGeek]

@evgenxpp Sci-Fi very often taps into aspects of Fantasy too. Suspension of disbelief is essential whenever watching any fictional eries. There's enough surface level logic and consistency in-universe as well as scientific understanding that keeps the show leaning more in towards believability.

[@evgenxpp]

@@ObsessiveGeek This is just my personal opinion, and I don't aim to convince anyone else. While fantasy elements are acceptable, even magic should have some logical consistency. Take, for instance, the child's tape recorder in the show, which I find nonsensical. It's presented without any explanation or reason. It just works. On the other hand, consider the Dune universe created by Frank Herbert. Despite its fantastical elements, everything is logically explained. Take the scary navigators, for example. They can navigate spaceships through means that seem purely fantastical. But Herbert provides answers to almost every question. Why are they so scary? Because they consume spice, which mutates them. There's no need for a detailed physical explanation; understanding the link between spice consumption and enhanced mental abilities suffices. Why can't they use computers? Because it's forbidden in the universe, as Herbert delineates. What is spice? Worms produces a substance, when this substance, known as pre-spice mass, comes into contact with water, it triggers a reaction resulting in spice. What are the worms? They are colossal and perilous creatures unique to Arrakis. Herbert meticulously describes the worm's life cycle, from sand plankton to sandtrouts to mature worms, crafting a fully realized and logically consistent world.

[@ObsessiveGeek]

@evgenxpp The entire concept of this series is a mystery/ thriller with events seemingly tied to somewhat scientific theories. Explaining exactly how a thing does what it does goes against that concept. Logically, consistency then isn't tied to "how" in the conventional sense, we're given story and character motivations that strongly suggest that is the reasoning for the events playing out the way they do.

[@rarmai]

I was disappointed. After game of thrones and lost I had told myself to not start any show built on mysteries until it was over and reviewed for making much sense. But here I am, doing it again. The guys I’ve been waiting for never showed up. Henry/buds crew mates. Dead in one world, not in the other. Seems they have a part in the story. Maybe next season.

[@filmbuff-dh9kb]

@@byjamesosbornewestworld got cancelled during ownership change because it was too damn expensive to make…but I agree with what you’re saying.

[@CorbittChandler]

Dude great job! The left / right eye concept in this video though is a pretty amazing theory: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mancgmOGeap6pdEsi=9yFW-gNmvi_qada0

[@Homeward2019]

Haven't watched this episode yet but I fear that this is going to be just like ABC's LOST... weirdness followed by a cheap, bargain basement ending.

[@Devilsfan118]

Probably the worst season finale they could have delivered. Felt like a filler episode after episode 7, which was superb. Season 2 isn't even in the works yet.

[@TFrank-lf5fg]

Show is seriously trash.

[@ObsessiveGeek]

Why are you here then? Focus on the things you enjoy, dude