STOP Taking These Eldritch Invocations in 2024

[@ericpeterson8732]

What about Eldritch sight? At Will Detect Magic is great because many parties will want to press on before you can cast that ritual. Knowing if the BBG has defensive spells or the location of magical traps AT WILL is extremely useful. And you ignored it. 🤨

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@ericpeterson8732 whoops!! Looks like I accidentally missed that one! I assure you it wasn’t intentional and you’re definitely right-it’s a fantastic invocation. Jumping between the legacy and 2024 options must’ve tripped me up there but I’ll pin your comment so any future viewers know what’s up. Thanks for the correction!

[@gigajohntheol6330]

I don't think it is worth to use one of your invocations while you can cast it as a ritual

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@gigajohntheol6330 casting it as a ritual is useful, yes. But I do think this is one of the rare exceptions where constantly having detect magic up without having to wait 10min to cast it is a massive improvement.

[@ElocNodnarb]

@@ConstructedChaos agreed. When you need Detect Magic, you usually need it NOW

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@ElocNodnarb that and just having it up ALL the time ensures that you never miss anything important!

[@adambaldinger4507]

Youre not my dad ill take whatever invocation I want

[@ConstructedChaos]

*proud not-dad wipes tear from his eye* "Go on, be your own man not-son"

[@rcschmidt668]

I can appreciate the intent, but the value of each invocation would vary greatly depending on the campaign, how the table is run, and who else is in the party.

[@MrJaveanaMan]

😂😂😂

[@soldierbreed]

Or is he 🤔🤫

[@adambaldinger4507]

@soldierbreed I mean I was adopted..... so depends on the age

[@Klaital1]

Devil's Sight is actually significantly better than it was in 2014. In 2014 it only worked in darkness, not in dim light, now it also lets you see normally in dim light.

[@ConstructedChaos]

Ayyyy very nice find there! You are absolutely right! Although, I don't think anyone actually played it before where you couldn't also see in dim light if you had devil's sight and no darkvision haha.

[@ltrigga219]

@@ConstructedChaos In the second session of a new campaign, I used legacy Devil’s Sight specifically limiting vision in dim light. One of my players had, in his backstory, come across an item that ended up being sentient and powerful enough to grant him an eldritch invocation…completely unbeknownst to him or the party, until he suddenly could see perfectly in the absolute darkness of a cave’s depths. Then someone cast Light and he suddenly couldn’t see for shit outside 20 ft. Everyone was very pleasantly baffled, it was great fun.

[@nicka3697]

@ltrigga219 that is the best way to use an inconsistent rules anomaly. So funny congrats to your DM

[@PsyrenXY]

You're definitely sleeping on Otherworldly Leap. Have you SEEN the new Jump spell? 20ft of extra movement every round that ignores most difficult terrain and a lot of hazards is a big deal, and its concentration-free to boot

[@Chaddingway]

Big agree. It's incredible when repositioning for Repelling Blast shenanigans.

[@Impath]

I don't think people realize that with Pact of the Tome you can get *any* cantrip. That includes Sorcerous Burst!

[@ConstructedChaos]

Pact of the Tome is definitely underrated!

[@DrPluton]

That's surprising. I know other classes that can choose cantrips or spells are usually restricted to a certain class or classes (like Magic Secrets only being Bard, Cleric, Druid, and Wizard lists). That does increase its desirability.

[@tresvantehaynes9453]

My advice for warlock players. You are a shotgun, you don't have many shots but when you let loose you hit hard. Basically save your shots when you really need it.

[@ThatGuy182545]

Fiendish Vigor is also really good for helping keep Armour of Agathys up and running. Pretty much anything that gives you temporary hp is.

[@ConstructedChaos]

Absolutely! I love the way they changed the wording on armor of agathys so it works more cleanly with other sources of temp hp!

[@Golmov_the_Wretched]

@@ConstructedChaos I really don't think that's going to make it through the first errata. If that was the intention I think they'd have been much more clear about it. I agree that RAW it works, but given how much effort they went through clearing up the wording of other spells it seems more likely to me that they simply missed that implication in Armour of Agathys.

[@rogerexcell249]

*Cough* Power word fortify, grant one target 120 temp HP. Armor of Agathys with a cleric, bard or divine soul sorcerer...

[@MauricioLuigui]

I will take any invocations that I want. I dont care about the optimal thing, I care that are fun.

[@ConstructedChaos]

Nothing wrong with that approach! It’s part of the reason why I detail every invocation instead of just highlighting the good ones. Happy adventuring!

[@van_daddy_z]

New version of Jump is sick, I wouldn’t disregard tripling your movement speed with a bonus action for a minute without concentration.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@van_daddy_z well you can only do it once on each turn and you spend 10 movement to gain 30ft jump so it’s net 20ft of movement. Its a lot better than it was and I probably undersell it in this video but it’s not tripling your movement and I’m not sure I’d take it all the time. It’s a maybe from me at best.

[@van_daddy_z]

@@ConstructedChaos oh o read it as 90 feet of movement. Still useful at lower levels as you can jump vertically as well

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@van_daddy_zsure! It’s just not exactly “incredible”

[@alanschaub147]

Ghostly Gaze + Misty Step or any other teleportation ability basically allows you to walk through walls.

[@ConstructedChaos]

That is a great observation!! Thanks for the added insight here!

[@TheOptimismprime]

I want to listen to you…but I’ll have to ask my patron

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@TheOptimismprime Reasonable. I wouldn’t want you to get cut off from your magical sugar daddy!

[@gigajohntheol6330]

I disagree with Otherworldly Leap, the new jump spell is amazing for movement +30 feet on every turn is a lot, especially if you have the packed of the blade where you need to be melee

[@ConstructedChaos]

I can see your point but I still feel like sacrificing an invocation is unnecessary when you could also grab another round of lessons of the first ones and magic initiate (wizard) for a free misty step when you need it that doesn’t keep you from casting other spells with your action is just better. Edit/TLDR: I was completely wrong about taking misty step with magic initiate (wizard) because I forgot that it's a 2nd level spell. Level 20 wizards forget these sorts of semantics from time to time

[@trevormerritt548]

​@ConstructedChaos the difference is that misty step still requires a spell slot or has a limited number of uses per day, while otherworldly leap allows you to cast the jump spell as many times you want, essentially letting you jump around like the hulk at a moments notice. At will casting is just such a fun novelty.

[@trevormerritt548]

Same here, the new jump spell rocks! Warlocks getting to use it at will is so insanely cool. Even after the wizards have expended all their spell slots, you can still jump like superman to the top of a (smallish) building.

[@gigajohntheol6330]

@@ConstructedChaos misty step is a second level spell you cannot get it with magic initiate

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@gigajohntheol6330 why the hell did I think that was 1st level?! I use it all the time. Thanks for catching the brain rot. I’ll see my doctor immediately 😂

[@captaindred342]

You may laugh at Beast Speach. I laughed a bit, at first. The warlock went pact of the chain, beast speach, eyes of the runekeeper, and other so called weak invocations, like buffing his familiar. A creative player can wreck absolute havoc with these things. I had planned the rebellion to be hard, almost no chance of real success. The warlock sends his familiar into the mines and around the docks, speaking to all the beasts of burden. The warlock turned their food and pack animals against them, speaking through his familair and putting his persuasion and deception skills to good use while busy doing other stuff with the party. The paladin and knights doing cavalry stuff was nothing compared the warlocks familiar leading a stampeding horde of rothe, aurochs, chuul, and giant lizards all over the city. Oh and the giant flock of cave bats he picked up along the way. His familar did more damage with those invocations than all 8 pcs did combined. Their best battle only worked because they timed their charges to come in right after the stampade ran thru and over all my bad guys. If a dungeon master tells you, "Bro that invocation sucks, dont take it, it's weaksauce" it is because like me, he learned the hard way and doesnt want you to bring ALL the chaos to a carefully planned campaign. Fr fr 😂😂😂😂😂

[@jefrosiers8880]

Beast speech was the one invocation i always chose

[@nickm9102]

@@captaindred342 I learned fairly early that if a DM tells you not to take something or asks you why would you do that. It's because they didn't expect it and are not sure they can cope with it. Had a fight with a well prepared caster and I was playing a Warlock about middle of initiative. Everyone before me quickly was in a bad place so I went for the throat and cast Summon greater demon behind the caster with the command "Tear him limb from limb." Pointing to the caster. The DM freaked out and half yelled Why would you do that?" My only response was "it seemed like a good idea and he can only break free on a Nat 20.". Without missing a beat he rolled the save... 20. So the fight continues but the Bulgara frees itself but since the closest target was still the caster he went there. After the session the DM said that was a good move. I think he was concerned about a TPK and that choice eliminated that concern.

[@shadow-faye]

Beast speech specifically sucks because you can get the spell and others from another invocation, another invocation you'd need to do this build anyway

[@captaindred342]

@shadow-faye nah, you can't get it as a cast at will cantrip the way you're referring to. Either limited uses or worse, burns spell slots, and that's the LAST thing a warlock needs.

[@shadow-faye]

@@captaindred342 it's a ritual

[@matthewconlon2388]

Pact of Tome at 1 for Shillelagh (Quarter Staff) Agonizing Blast Truestrike and Agonizing Blast Shillelagh at 2 Truestrike with Shillelagh for d8 + (3xCha mod) on hit till 4th. Polearm Master at 4 Pact of Blade, Thirsting Blade at 5th. Now you Shillelagh for 3x per round for 2d10+(4x Cha) mod + 1d4+Cha mod. Roll Agonizing Blast off Truestrike and on to Eldritch Blast. Warcaster at 8th. Lifedrinker 9th. Devouring blade and get Cha to 20 at 12th. Since Hex is all day rd 1 you make 3 attacks with staff and hex for 3d12+4d6+30. Round 2 is 3d12+5d6+35. Compare to E Blast: 3d10+3d6+15.

[@Trexflex1699]

disgusting i love it

[@rogerexcell249]

For a variant: Celestial warlock with Agonized Green-Flame Blade and a greataxe. First target: 1D12+15+2D8+1D8 (greataxe 1D12+Str/Cha, Radiant soul +Cha, Agonized +Cha, cantrip 2D8, hex 1d6) Second target cantrip: 2D8+10 (cantrip 2D8+Cha, Agonized +Cha) Second target Cleave 1D12+5+1d6 (greataxe 1D12+Str/Cha, hex 1d6) 2D12+4D8+30+2d6 On average 68 compared to your 76 if you can line up 'adjacent targets'. Not quite as good, but still far more than EB 42. PS Personally I'd not hex. I'd use and elf with elven accuracy racial feat to roll with super advantage and eldritch smite on a crit.

[@coznosis]

A level 11 eBlast warlock should not be using hex. If I use an hour long summon like summon fiend my pet gets three attacks on top of the three from my eBlast. eBlast: 3d10 +15 + 6d6 +27 +flying Mount since the creature is large and can fly

[@kiX86]

that wont work, as Agonizing Blast requires a "Cantrip That Deals Damage", and Shillelagh does not. It only changes the damage die of a weapon attack without dealing damage itself. Arguably, True Strike does qualify once it hits from level 5 onwards, as that's the time it gains actual damage.

[@grendl74]

Otherworldly Leap is AMAZING for hit and run tactics and is super handy.

[@ConstructedChaos]

Yeaaaahhhh I think I made the wrong call on that one! I didn’t realize how much the jump spell improved in 2024

[@clarkside4493]

I've got a player itching to use _Jump_ so he can leap 15 feet above an enemy and then fall for his Charger feat benefit. He's finally living out his Final Fantasy Dragoon dream.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@clarkside4493 okay that sounds really fun actually hahaha

[@grendl74]

@@clarkside4493 YEEEEEEESSSSS

[@Evoker23-lx8mb]

Something you forgot to mention, devil’s sight works in dim light as well as darkness now so it’s so much better.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@Evoker23-lx8mb you’re absolutely correct but I don’t think many tables were playing it so it didn’t work in dim light before haha. It was pretty well implied that it did. I mostly view the new rule for it as a clarification-not so much a change.

[@Evoker23-lx8mb]

@@ConstructedChaos true. Probably a case of rules as written vs rules as intended.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@Evoker23-lx8mbyeah I think that’s exactly right

[@csdn4483]

He's underselling Book of Ancient Secrets - this is an extremely useful invocation as it gives you access to *_ALL_* ritual spells, not just arcane ones. This means you can get Cleric and Druid ritual spells. It also gives you even more cantrips. If you're planning on being a spell casting Warlock, this is one of the best invocations to take.

[@ConstructedChaos]

I appreciate your input here but I’m not underselling anything. The new pact of the tome gives you access to all 1st level ritual spells. Higher level ones are useful, yes. But, unless I’m missing something, all the book of ancient secrets would give you with the new 2024 rules is the ability to copy level 2+ ritual spells you find into your book of shadows. That isn’t a guarantee and it’s hardly worth an invocation slot.

[@csdn4483]

@@ConstructedChaos You're limited to only 2 1st level spells with the Pact of the Tome in 2024. There's a total of 12 1st level arcane ritual spells. Overall, there are 20 ritual spells between level 1 and level 5. With only 2024 PotT, you have 2 1st level spells at any given time for arcane rituals, when you add on BoAS, you now have those 2 + all 18 others available to you that include those of Druid and Cleric.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@csdn4483 you keep saying arcane spells but there is no such restriction. You can also change the spells when you short rest. Again, I stand by my position in the video unless I’m misunderstanding something. Edit: AND you’re also leaving out that these spells must be copied from another source using gold and time. None of it is guaranteed and I still do not believe it is worth an invocation.

[@rogerexcell249]

I have to agree with csdn here. BOAS was good because it gave you access to higher level rituals. The L1 rituals arent really that amazing. While they partially rolled BOAS into the base POTT with its ritual spell feature, the fact they capped it to L1 spell ever... make it by far the weakest pact invocation. I could just take ritual caster feat for example, and get +1 ASI, two to SIX L1 rituals at all times (not just 2 changing on "short" 1 hour long rest) and the scribe wizard's ability to cast one ritual instantly per day. A far far superior option. If BOAS wasnt still an option then POTT has only two real uses... to save invocations by giving you eyes of the rune keeper, beast speech and eldritch sight but with a 10 minute cast time, or for a celestial warlock who wants to have fun with Agonized Word of Radiance, stary wisp, produce flame, holy word or firebolt instead of eldritch blast.

[@luciferandassociates9255]

I love Gift of the Protector. It's a team wide Death Ward. Sure it can only happen once each day, but them not going to zero for pretty much free saves their turn, hopefully a healing spell, miss steps and sometimes just Sudden Death from Boss Fights. And it covers the whole team as you never know who might get got, but to also be fair, I was the Healing Warlock.

[@ConstructedChaos]

I understand your thought process here but having to activate it in response to someone falling to 0 is actually the problem. If someone is in the middle of a multiattack, they're just going to swing again after you pop your ally up. IMO, better to let the ally drop and pick them up some other way with a healing word or something. Not to mention a particularly brutal enemy stands a better chance of outright killing your friend by doing more than their max hp in damage when they're just at 1. All that and healing potions are a bonus action now. I can see the use case for it but I think it falls apart in practice.

[@gystes_]

@ConstructedChaos Counter point, if the target drops your ally in the middle of their multi-attack, they can attack your downed body. Outright killing is less common than the possibility of attacking a downed ally. Also important to remember some attacks instantly kill enemies if they reach 0 hp.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@gystes_ that is a fair point. However, I actually talked about attacking downed player characters in a video earlier this year and found that most DMs (at least the ones in my comments section) were against that sort of thing unless the monster was truly that savage or diabolical. Regardless, let’s take a step back and consider again: is this really worth an invocation if all of these prerequisites need to be met in order for it to be useful?

[@supmarioful]

​@@ConstructedChaosyou can give your entire party and yourself deathward for free. I don't see what's so bad about that. It can absolutely come in clutch in moments where its needed and that's the whole point of it. And it doesn't waste a 5th level spell slot like the actual spell.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@supmarioful firstly, deathward is a 4th level spell. Second, deathward is a terrible spell for that level. Finally, the effect itself isn’t bad on its own-it’s just not nearly worth an invocation in my opinion.

[@tableslam]

whenever a weird bug pops up like that (like D&D beyond not allowing legacy options when it should be) literally just make a copy of the legacy option as Homebrew and enable homebrew on your character. and then just select the homebrew copy you made. I had to do that with Light Domain and Ancestral Guardian for a couple players in a campaign I was running and it worked fine. bug has since been fixed so they were able to swap over to the "real" subclass, but for a while they were both running with a Homebrew copy of their subclass

[@ConstructedChaos]

I'm still running into various issues with DNDBeyond. It's frustrating but I know they're working on it. They probably have too many devs dedicated to their new project sigil stuff.

[@ATinyWaffle]

Completely wrong about the Jump spell. It's great and still relevant when Fly is available since it doesn't require concentration. Go back and read it.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@ATinyWaffle I did! And I didn’t realize how much it had improved. With so many invocations to cover I was bound to mix something up. However, I feel it’s still just a “maybe” for me at best.

[@ATinyWaffle]

@@ConstructedChaos Yeah, but that's true about any invocation... I would take it for sure with a bladelock.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@ATinyWaffle I don’t think that’s true with any invocation. There are certainly some that present enough value that I’d take them every time-namely pact of the chain and gaze of two minds.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@ATinyWaffle still, though, you are right that u missed the mark there! I wish I could retroactively edit the video to reflect my opinion on the invocation haha.

[@adambaldinger4507]

Thunder clap is hilarious especially if the player takes a dip in bard

[@ConstructedChaos]

I've been trying to brainstorm an agonizing blast thunderclap build ever since I got my hands on the PHB haha

[@adambaldinger4507]

​@ConstructedChaos I mean it will only work if the player describes casting thunder clap by clapping dem cheeks. So new college of dance bard with warlock...the jokes would be endless

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@adambaldinger4507 OMG LOLOLOL

[@adambaldinger4507]

@ConstructedChaos probably have to tweak the spell a little add an additional wisdom save or be mesmerized by the clapping cheeks for a round. On a fail (5 or less)the player is drawn to the caster and will throw a pocket of coinage at the caster and they have to say make it rain or hail...

[@rogerexcell249]

@@ConstructedChaos Me too, but what made me sad was the fact eldritch spear specificly prohibited spells with 5' range. I was sad to see I couldnt cheese distant metamagic to give it a 10' range and then eldritch spearing a 40-610' AOE cantrip. Sadly not to be. No Word of radiance celestial warlock reading the holy word from their tome and smiting the infidels with holy fire... I'll have to be content with my 5-10' AOE. Sad days... But having a pact of the blade warlock thunder clapping by hitting the ground with their 2 handed magical hammer is still pretty cool to visualise.

[@RichterPhallos]

Thank you whoever gifted me a membership Very cool of you!

[@ConstructedChaos]

You're very welcome! Hope you're enjoying the channel!

[@gradyelliott7594]

You're missing the most important part of Improved Pact Weapon: the ability to summon *ranged* pact weapons! At first glance, this might seem redundant with Eldritch Blast for ranged combat, but it allows Eldritch Smite at range! This is an extremely strong combination, due to the automatic Prone condition inflicted by Eldritch Smite. With a ranged Pact Weapon, a flying target can be Smited (smote?) out of the air with one shot! (Unless it can hover, or is otherwise immune to the prone condition.) Then your party's martial types can gang up on it, and they will thank you.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@gradyelliott7594 that’s an excellent observation. But I do think you can still bond with an existing ranged weapon with the base pact of the blade so I might be less inclined to take it still. Regardless, really cool idea for combining with eldritch smite! Thanks for sharing that!

[@gradyelliott7594]

@@ConstructedChaos @ConstructedChaos your comment made me wonder if I'd missed a rule change in the new edition, so I double checked. The '24 version of Pact of the Blade is similar to the '14 version in this respect: it can only conjure melee weapons. However, if used to bond a magic weapon, I think a ranged weapon is allowed.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@gradyelliott7594 Sorry if that came across the wrong way! I was basically just saying what you said at the end of your latest comment!

[@psylum1]

Disagree about otherworldly leap. The new jump spell let you jump 30 feet for 10 feet of movement. That basically means an extra 20 movement speed. It's really great for improving your combat mobility concentration free.

[@ConstructedChaos]

I do see the value in that! I didn’t realize they changed it up that much from last time but I do still think it’s a “maybe” at best from me.

[@RoninXDarknight]

In a campaign now as a Warlock. About 8 sessions in and have gone from level 3-4 and are knocking on the door of level 5. I have tanked an absolute ridiculous amount of damage while only having taken 4 points to my actual health using Fiendish Vigor. Very solid invocation. Pact of the Tome is actually amazing because it gives you access to spells that are not normally on the warlock spell list (hello Guidance & Thaumaturgy) and you can completely swap out these spells every short/long rest. As a Warlock with limited spell slots, anything that gives you access to free spells is awesome. While the idea of using an imp familiar in place of Devil's sight isn't a bad one, keep in mind that, with the 2024 rules, in combat this would require you to give up your bonus action to maintain every turn which is definitely not ideal if you have something to do with your bonus action.

[@ConstructedChaos]

All very fair and solid points! I'm stoked to hear that fiendish vigor is working out so well for you! It really is a fantastic invocation!

[@Sirpecker0426]

Lessons of the first ones, i already got alert, and now ill pickup tough, lucky, and savage attacker. (pact blade build) im enjoying it.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@Sirpecker0426 it really is that good!! Enjoy the build. It sounds like a fun one!

[@JC-zo4qn]

Currently playing in CoS. We were just in a battle with three flaming skulls, and my DM decided to drop three fireballs in a row on our party. My character got caught in two of these, so I invoked the tomb of lavista's invocation to save my tail lol. So the first one was normal damage and the second was doubled because the vulnerability to fire was now in effect. My character's a 6th level Paladin /5th level Warlock and this absolutely saved my butt. Those 50 extra temporary hit points came in clutch.

[@ConstructedChaos]

That is definitely a fair use case but I find it exceptionally rare to have just one big instance of damage that needs to be dealt with. And, if not all of the hp goes away, you’re kinda just stuck there. It can be clutch but it’s just too unreliable for my liking.

[@doc_havoc00heavywing37]

So can you use improved pact weapon for 2024?

[@ConstructedChaos]

According to WOTC, yes. DNDBeyond doesn't support it currently, though.

[@chrisstewart4549]

My partys warlock intentionally picked non of the meta invocations, but he can tank harder than my barbarian. 😂 last session he literally 1v1 a white dragon as the rest of us were trapped by their followers

[@ConstructedChaos]

Haha I’m guessing tomb of levistus was on that list 😂

[@chrisstewart4549]

@ConstructedChaos it is but he didn't even have to use it.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@chrisstewart4549 love to hear it! A warlock tank is definitely an interesting concept.

[@leodouskyron5671]

Your Imp has such a well kept beard. It is soft and looks like it would smell great … lol. Seriously, the Familiar is a good option but not the best option only because there isn’t just one. The best part about the Warlock is that you don’t have to just pick one gift. And there is a bit of a benefit to having more then one so you can’t really mess it up … too much.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@leodouskyron5671 hahaha thank you! I ask the familiar to trim it often so it stays presentable but there’s only so much that can fit behind the mas-I mean chin 😜

[@MartinGasparini86]

at level 1 you need to get a pact invocation... pact of the blade or pact of the tome it give a lot... paladin warlock can have a huge power up

[@ConstructedChaos]

Absolutely! And that one level dip for pact of the blade is super useful for so many builds!

[@MartinGasparini86]

@ConstructedChaos the problem I have with multiclassing in this version is that you need to invest more levels to get the core features...at least 3 level for class

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@MartinGasparini86 That's fair but the one level warlock dip for spellcasting and pact of the blade access is still going to be pretty worth it.

[@DJBlackNGold]

11:50 after DMing for someone who tried the sniper build I can just say this- what's the point when most DMs don't even use maps that big in the first place? Only matters in theater of the mind on super niche situations like assassination missions.

[@ConstructedChaos]

I have personally run into this problem many times haha. I work so hard on my terrain and then the assassin sniper player has their character rush way off the map haha

[@Mr_Maiq_The_Liar]

Minions of Chaos lets you cast conjure elementals USING a warlock spell slot, not WITHOUT using a warlock spell slot: best avoided.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@Mr_Maiq_The_Liar did I say without?

[@Mr_Maiq_The_Liar]

@@ConstructedChaos yes

[@ConstructedChaos]

Ah, indeed I did! I’ll make sure to trim that out now. Thanks for the correction! I swear I know how to read 😂😅

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@Mr_Maiq_The_Liar forgive me for not immediately trusting Maiq The Liar

[@MauricioLuigui]

I will take it. I like having a fire elemental name cinder

[@DeadmanwalkingXI]

Pact of the Tome can also get you Shillelagh, which has a lot of the same bonuses as Pact of the Blade at early levels (though, admittedly, only with a 1d8 weapon). Plus, obviously, two more cantrips and some spells. Honestly, it's strongly arguable that a melee Warlock should do that instead of Pact of the Blade then retrain to Blade at 5th level when they get Thirsting Blade. It being 1d8 is a down side, but the extra spells are super handy and if you're not going with Str 13 for Heavy weapons, it's not too big of a damage hit, and, if you keep it and add Pact of the Blade at 5th level instead of replacing, the damage escalates from there. One especially good option is dipping Fighter for shields and armor plus a Fighting Style and Weapon Masteries, keep Shillelagh on top of Pact of the Blade, as a one handed 1d10 weapon with Topple is pretty great (and that's what you get with Shillelagh on a Staff at 5th level). Combines especially well with Polearm Master and the Dueling Fighting Style. You can also, of course, get Shillelagh with Magic Initiate (Druid) if you don't want to deal with Pact of the Chain, but it's still a combo worth thinking about, especially for low level melee Warlocks or those dipping Fighter. I also think you're really underestimating Jump and thus Otherworldly Leap. Jump is effectively just +20 feet Movement Speed in the 2024 rules, and a Bonus Action to cast as well as no concentration, so it usually stacks on top of things like Misty Step for mobility. This is particularly true since the other solution you suggest doesn't actually work...Magic Initiate is limited to 1st level spells and cannot get you Misty Step. Otherworldly Leap is probably overkill on an Archefey Pact Warlock, but it's handy for other people who want a resourceless mobility boost.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@DeadmanwalkingXI I do think you’re right. With something like 45 invocations to look over and review, it was inevitable that I miss the mark on one. I didn’t realize how much better the new jump spell was!

[@LoreFoundry]

I'll say this. You can have both pacts by 5th lv tome and blade. There are some merits to go down this path. Well thought out bud.

[@nickm9102]

​@@LoreFoundrythe irony to this is that pact of the tome would allow Shileigh and find familiar in 2014 so you could have a lesser version of all three pacts. I think they realized this and it is part of the reason that you can grab all Three now. It doesn't break anything.

[@nickm9102]

Aspect of the moon hasn't changed. You still need lesser restoration to make it viable so 9 as either celestial Warlock or Divine Soul sorcerer and up to 11 in the other class. Personally I would do Divine Soul 9 and hex blade 11 but I think with the 24 warlock class that celestial would be more fun.

[@seivar2415]

the spell 'Jump' has actually been buffed significantly. With it now being a bonus action to cast and at no additional action, you can just spend 10 ft worth of movement in order to leap 30 ft. That's better than longstrider with a net positive of 20 ft. of movement.

[@ConstructedChaos]

You’re absolutely right! My fault for not double checking the spell in the new rules!

[@seivar2415]

@@ConstructedChaos Trust me, there are many changes to the spells that're off the wall. Like how inflict wounds got nerfed to oblivion. The damage is reduced to 2d10 and got turned into a CON save.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@seivar2415 yeah I did see that. But I’m pretty stoked about spells like magic weapon and divine favor no longer requiring concentration.

[@seivar2415]

@@ConstructedChaos Dual wield Paladin? Eat your heart out Ranger!!! (rip)

[@ConstructedChaos]

@ it’s so sad what they’ve done (or failed to do) to my boy.

[@ehd.f4269]

Pick whatever you want, guys. Don’t listen to this guy.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@ehd.f4269 I agree, actually 😌

[@Hagen024]

Otherworldly Leap is actually an excellent choice as the new updated Jump spell is much better than the 2014 version.

[@brannenpfister2579]

Can you really take old invocations? Most of the prerequisites for the old invocations, like aspect of the Moon, require the “pact of the tome *feature*”. Pact of the tome isn’t a feature any more, it’s an invocation. If you look at the new invocations that require the new pact invocations, you’ll see the wording is different. I’m not so sure you can take aspect of the moon anymore. You say they’ve clarified otherwise but I’ve seen no mention of it. Can you direct me?

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@brannenpfister2579 For reference, this is the exact verbiage WOTC used previously: *Will functions that consult spells (ex. Warlock invocations) be affected?* No, they will not. If you have 2014 content enabled, you will still be able to refer to 2014 versions of functions like invocations in your character sheet. Further, I am treating invocations as they instruct across the whole of the book: “Everything is backwards compatible unless it has been reprinted”. For example, other subclasses can be chosen even though the “Walock Subclass” feature has been reprinted. It follows that older options for Eldritch invocations should be compatible as well if not reprinted in the 2024 PHB. If this is not the case, they have done a terrible job of making that clear and I will update this video when/if they do. My intent was to at least make it easy for viewers to discern what is and what isn’t from 2024 so that they can decide for themselves depending on what their DM rules.

[@samuelgeyman]

Fiendish Vigor no longer states "as a 1st level spell" Out table has inferred this to mean if you are level 5 you have 3rd level slots and cast it as such WITHOUT using the slot

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@samuelgeyman that’s a fine ruling for your home game but the rules do state that free castings are always done at the base spell level unless otherwise indicated.

[@ThisChangeIsAwful]

me seeing the intro about the bug fix is still there 3 months later...

[@ConstructedChaos]

I'm still running into various issues with DNDBeyond. It's frustrating but I know they're working on it. They probably have too many devs dedicated to their new project sigil stuff.

[@majinsole8554]

Pan flute Thriller was a nice touch. ~_~

[@ConstructedChaos]

Haha thank you! I was pretty happy with that as well 😂

[@zimattack9994]

Im still taking beast speak and beguiling influence how else amy i going to live out my dream of a evil Disney princess with an army of low int animals doing my bidding Drone lock for days?

[@ConstructedChaos]

😂😂😂

[@troydejong6206]

Quetion, with the new pact of the tome, can you add additional rituals to the book as you find scrolls?

[@ConstructedChaos]

Not as a base invocation, no. You’d need to take the book of ancient secrets as well. However, it’s worth noting that you can change the rituals and cantrips from the base pact of the tome each time you long rest.

[@troydejong6206]

@@ConstructedChaos really, I didn't see that in the 2024 PHB?

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@troydejong6206 Yep: Stitching together strands of shadow, you conjure forth a book in your hand at the end of a Short or Long Rest. This Book of Shadows (you determine its appearance) contains eldritch magic that only you can access, granting you the benefits below. The book disappears if you conjure another book with this feature or if you die. Cantrips and Rituals. When the book appears, choose three cantrips, and choose two level 1 spells that have the Ritual tag. The spells can be from any class’s spell list, and they must be spells you don’t already have prepared. While the book is on your person, you have the chosen spells prepared, and they function as Warlock spells for you. Spellcasting Focus. You can use the book as a Spellcasting Focus.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@troydejong6206 you can actually do it at the end of a short OR long rest so it’s even better than I thought.

[@Ahglock]

I kind of wonder in the long run if agonizing blast will still be taken. The damage of eldritch blast/agonizing blast is really low now compared to others.

[@ConstructedChaos]

With a class that needs to rely very heavily on cantrips for damage unless you’re building pact of the blade, I kinda feel like you need every bit of damage you can muster. So you’d conceivably take this in addition to whatever else.

[@Ahglock]

@@ConstructedChaos Sure but I think your damage will be so far below other damage dealers you will feel the need to go pact of the blade instead. I think they might have turned the warlock into a gish only class.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@Ahglock with the scaling of eldritch blast, I wonder how you came to the conclusion that pact of the blade would improve your damage output by any sizeable amount? Not saying you’re wrong but the math seems to point towards eldritch blast with agonizing blast working out better with fewer invocations compared to pact of the blade.

[@Ahglock]

@@ConstructedChaos Feats, magic weapons, weapon masteries, fighting styles all gas weapons well past eldritch blast+agonizing blast even when hex is running. a basic sword and board fighter out damages eldritch blast+agonizing+hex though not by much. But that is a defense build not a offense build. My guess is warlocks eldritch blast spam is going to be so far below martial damage warlock players wont feel like they are contributing. What makes it worse for the warlock is a evocation wizards potent cantrip keeps their cantrips very close to a warlock EB spam(without hex) but a wizard is a full caster who doesn't need to rely on their cantrip to carry them in a fight.

[@BassRacerx]

undying servitude might be a great pickup considering you can cast all your spells at maxmmum level so lvl 5 animate dead is five skelletons/zombies.

[@ConstructedChaos]

Sadly, spells that are cast for free in this way are cast at their base level so you don’t get the upcasting for it

[@BassRacerx]

@@ConstructedChaos thats ... disapointing

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@BassRacerx​​⁠haha yeahhh. No reason you can’t run it differently though if you want to!

[@BassRacerx]

@@ConstructedChaos yeah .. casting spells at max spell levels is kind of the main thing with warlock magic i would say you could. unless the invocation explicitly said "you cast x spell at y spell level" why not?

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@BassRacerx That's totally fair!

[@miguelangelus959]

Tomb of Levistus is a reaction, though. It probably protects you for an entire round and, although it can cost your concentration, it will not take any of your actions on your turn

[@ConstructedChaos]

It goes away at the end of the turn I believe. So it will take an entire turn from you as I understand.

[@almisami]

Investment of the chain master ia AMAZING if you're a small race! Ever wanted to travel on a flying goat or deer (The only 2 medium size animal companions that are quadrupeds)? Now you can!

[@rogerexcell249]

But... with just basic find familiar you can use a giant fly... a Large flying creature which can carry 420 lb. IOTCM is redundant for this purpose...

[@ecstasycat1482]

Booming blade + Agonizing blast + repelling blast + topple mastery is some serious combo, i have a celestial warlock in my game using those with a lance.

[@ConstructedChaos]

That’s pretty awesome! Just watch out because booming blade can only be used on enemies within 5ft!

[@ecstasycat1482]

@@ConstructedChaos This and some DMs may not allow BB in 2024 but with cantrips like this, the 2024 melee warlock feels so good.

[@fallingupwards7974]

the thing on dnd beyond is a bug?? its been 4 months since this video was posted, its still doing it

[@ConstructedChaos]

It is possible that they’re walking back their earlier stated intent and they just may never implement it properly but they haven’t come out and said anything directly.

[@mappybc6097]

Improved pact weapon is completely useless because resistance and immunity to nonmagical weapons are gone from the game.

[@ConstructedChaos]

Is that confirmed now? I must’ve missed that but it does still give a +1 right?

[@mappybc6097]

@ConstructedChaos Pretty much. That's why so many class features and spells now turn physical damage into radiant, force, or some other hard to resist damage type. You still do get the +1 bonus, but that's hardly worth an invocation slot.

[@robcarlton2341]

This is a random Q what other legacy feats would count for origin spells since they seem to start rolling out background feats round strixhaven nd i would think those are an example

[@s.p.1434]

Imagine playing DnD like it's a game with zero roleplaying considerations and focusing solely on the numbers. God that sounds like a horrifically boring nightmare. Folks don't pick the imp because it has a fly speed and invisibility, pick the imp because your patron is a fiend and you like the idea of a little gremlin buddy to do evil things with.

[@ConstructedChaos]

Haha you’ll enjoy my most recent video. I made much the same point. But, as a dnd creator, it’s kinda my job to go over balance stuff with the new rules 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@nicholaspartin9221]

Would pact of the chain invocation allow the player to cast find familiar as a single Magic action (6 seconds) or take 600 magic actions (1 hour) for casting time?

[@rogerexcell249]

Its still a 1 hour long Magic action, I'm sad to inform you. If your table allows Flock of Familiars spell, its on the warlock list and 1 minute cast time. Source: Lost Laboratory of Kwalish (adventure book)

[@BlaykeStevens]

Bane and Bestow Curse both upcast really well. I think I would much rather cast them at a higher level with my Pact Magic than at their base levels for free. I always thought those Invocations were good because the spells were good, especially on a warlock. I thought it was odd that they werent on the warlocks list of spells in the first place, although, I think Bane made it onto their list in 2024. But yeah, I think Bane can upcast to like 7 targets at 5th level, and Bestow Curse at 5th level doesnt require concentration and I think its duration goes way higher. Invocation slots have always been and always will be competitive, but I don't think using an Invocation to pick up those spells is that bad of a choice.

[@shadow-faye]

If you want bane just get fey touched, you'll get a free cast and you can use it at max level and you'll get a misty step too Although yeah It is on the 2024 spell list do now this whole line of thinking I'd pointless, somehow bestow Curse isn't though

[@rogerexcell249]

Bane is indeed on the base warlock spell list now. Bestow curse still isnt and has uses... when cast at L5 it doesnt have concentration so its a stacking debuff. Edit: and unlike most debuffs there's no repeating save to remove... once you have it its there until a wizard friend remove curses it off. Not the most common thing. 8 hours of all attacks with disadvantage is effectively +5ac for the whole party. And the other option of Will save or they just dodge this turn is very effective if you know their Will save is low.

[@BlaykeStevens]

I believe you can get Bestow Curse from an older Invocation. Which may or may not it be worth an Invocation.

[@shadow-faye]

@BlaykeStevens it's not

[@BlaykeStevens]

Sign of ill omen

[@arcanerecovery2567]

does this mean the 2024 warlock can take the Beast Speech invocation from 2014?

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@arcanerecovery2567 I detailed that in the video, yep!

[@brianlaux6593]

Do I need Warcaster if I have a pact blade weapon focus? Weapon focus only means I don’t need material components that aren’t costly, correct? Playing my first Warlock ever and that has me a little confused!

[@rogerexcell249]

Focus replaces *zero gold cost* M components if its the correct type of focus for your spellcasting feature. Also a focus can be held in the same hand that does S. So normally a caster would have one hand holding a focus, and the other a weapon. Pact of the blade having the weapon as a focus (regardless of casting class) means when you have your pact weapon in hand it now satisfied S and M requirements of your spells of any class with that occupied hand. Basicly allowing dual wielding/sword and board (shield and weapon) and 2 handed spellcasting. IMPORTANT! Spells with a gold cost M componet (like say... revivify needing diamonds) you still need to hold the component when casting. You'd either need to drop your shield or sword to cast the spell. Two handed weapons can be held one handed so you can just take a hand off the hilt/bow grip and hold the material in the now free hand. ALSO! Warcaster does NOT count as a foci, so while the weapon hand can be used to perform S componets, it does NOT allow for M componets of spells, so you'd still need a hand free to hold a foci/the material components from a component pouch. War caster does not in and of itself allow sword and board (two handed does work as they can take a hand off the hilt while spellcasting to grab the M at the time of casting). In short for two handed either option is fully functional... for dual wield/sword and shield, the pact weapon is superior. Thats said, most people take warcaster for the ADV on concentration and the reactive casting. Both still good features to pick up even if you take POTB. Having both is still a valid choice.

[@KroneUSMC2010]

3 months later that snippet is still there

[@jeffreyweber6526]

Does Eldritch spear+ thunderclap make the area huge

[@ConstructedChaos]

I don’t believe eldritch spear would work for thunderclap but I like the idea

[@Battleguild]

No. Thunderclap is a Range of Self spell that has a 5ft radius. Eldritch Spear specifically mentions that the spell has to have a Range of 10ft+.

[@rogerexcell249]

Yes, both true. They franticly errata-ed spell sniper feat, eldritch spear and the spell description of thunderclap and word of radiance as soon as people like me started talking about distant metamagic or spell sniper combining with an agonized, eldritch spear word of radiance with a 610' radius hitting for 4d6+5 radiant damage... specificly to stop this. There is only one AOE agonize and spearable cantrip option: Acid splash. (Requires Pact of the Tome). Its radius does not increase however, just its range.

[@zenonx1]

Tomb of levistus is great for tanking dragon breath unless it’s fire

[@neoman4426]

An interesting antisynergy interaction with Cloak of Flies I never noticed, you strict RAW have Disadvantage on things like the 5e version of Counterspell or both 5e and 5.5 Dispel Magic which have you make a check with your Spellcasting Ability. I doubt anyone would actually run it that way even if they realized that quirk because it's super odd, but that is technically what it says.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@neoman4426 it’s really just not that great of an invocation. They tried to make it flavorful for what it is but made it less attractive in the end haha.

[@amandakarr6193]

This is part of the reason I prefer paper

[@ElocNodnarb]

My understanding was that RAW, Eldritch Invocations are Class Features and as such the old ones that weren’t reprinted are NOT available on a 2024 Warlock. Just checked and the PHB support thread says, “Legacy Warlock Invocations aren’t available for the 2024 Warlock.” but Legacy applies to only the old version of reprinted options, so we should be ok to use them. I’m happy to be wrong here.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@ElocNodnarb It’s supposed to be backwards compatible. I did a lot of research before making this video. It’s a bit confusing because they’ve made so many announcements about the legacy spells and magic items on DNDbeyond but there is a post that spells out directly that base 5e invocations that HAVEN’T been reprinted are still available for the 2024 warlock. The PHB support thread you’re referencing seems to contradict this so I would assume that they mean DNDBeyond *specifically* doesn’t support it. However, it’s a huge mess so I wouldn’t be surprised if they changed their minds on this whole backwards compatible thing. If that happens, I’ll come back and edit this video to reflect that change.

[@ConstructedChaos]

For reference, this is the exact verbiage they used previously: *Will functions that consult spells (ex. Warlock invocations) be affected?* No, they will not. If you have 2014 content enabled, you will still be able to refer to 2014 versions of functions like invocations in your character sheet.

[@Klaital1]

Don't really know why anyone would want to anyways, as pretty much all the invocations that were removed are bad.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@Klaital1 not all of them. I detail at least a few in this video that didn’t make the cut for 2024 that would still be worth considering and I even forgot to mention eldritch sight-which isn’t the best but is worth thinking about

[@ElocNodnarb]

@@Klaital1 Grasp of Hadar pulls a target 10ft closer and is just the opposite of repelling blast, which they did reprint, and the combo has great synergy! Lance of Lethargy slows an enemy by 10 feet which combos really nicely with other topple and slow effects. Relentless Hex lets you teleport any distance to your hexed target as long as you can see them. Shroud of Shadow - Invisibility as a cantrip Eldritch Sight - Detect Magic as a cantrip Improved Pact Weapon - got mostly integrated with PotB but without the +1 bonus. Undying Serivitude - Speak with Dead as a cantrip. While these may not be the best options in the game, they’re hardly the worst either.

[@ERBanmech]

Put lance of lethargy, and repelling blast on a ray of frost cantrip, most creatures with 30ft of movement can now longer approach you without dashing.

[@rogerexcell249]

Sadly Lance is a legacy only feat, and thus unlike repelling, can't be applied to anything except Eldritch Blast. Sad days...

[@peterriverajr6899]

You should definitely take Lance of lethargy if you are a halfling warlock

[@luissilva-oh9zz]

You gain the service of a familiar, a spirit that takes an animal form you choose: Bat, Cat, Frog, Hawk, Lizard, Octopus, Owl, Rat, Raven, Spider, Weasel, or another Beast that has a Challenge Rating of 0. with new rules Familiar Spell to summon a mount for small creatures. Goat, pig, and vulture would be awesome option for mounts that could be put away,

[@rogerexcell249]

Dont forget Giant Fly. Its large, and flies (unsurprisingly) so you can use it as a flying mount at L1... (Str of 14, so can carry 420 lb)

[@moongoosemcqueen]

Never!!!! Well ok since you put it like that

[@ConstructedChaos]

Haha Fun fact, depending on which thumbnail you saw, I may agree with you!

[@moongoosemcqueen]

@@ConstructedChaos "Don't involke" blue energy ball in dragonborn's hand

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@moongoosemcqueen So that one is meant to be the invocation that gives you access to Scrying which could still be useful sometimes!

[@rogerexcell249]

Personally.. I'd skip Investment of the Chain Master. Unless you find some way of increasing their HP they rarely have enough HP to survive one hit. At most it might have 24HP with a Sphinx of Wonder and at a pathetic 13AC. Even a basic fireball's average damage of 27 will one shot it. Their damage is so low with one single attack it also doesnt matter making it's attack less resisted by changing it's type to radiant or necrotic, plus I'd never want to give up my own bonus action to let it attack at all. The resistance might make it last 2 hits... but again... it costs its reaction to do it against ONE isntance of damage which means it can't deliver touch spells any more since you'll be saving the reaction for this, and most foes will have multi attack, so they'll just attack it again the same round and finish it off. You're always better off just taking something more useful as your invocation, watching your familliar get splatted and recast it. Hell, a basic imp, sprite or quasit from the basic POTC feature has either invisibility or shapechanging to try and blend into the background and this has much better odds of keeping it intact.

[@xxTerraPrimexx]

How has the exploit been removed? (Not that I am unhappy to see it gone)

[@ConstructedChaos]

Sorcery points can now only be used with Sorcerer spell slots. Pretty simple and elegant solution I think.

[@xxTerraPrimexx]

@@ConstructedChaos awesome, but where does it say that?

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@xxTerraPrimexxunder the rules for sorcerer….

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@xxTerraPrimexxI just went to look for it and now I can’t find it haha. I swear I read it somewhere at some point!

[@xxTerraPrimexx]

@ConstructedChaos lmao (I am genuinely not trolling) but I read font of magic and it doesn't state that it has to be sorcerer only, just that you can create one slot. Is there another section? (Nice video btw)

[@miguelangelus959]

Are there really so many options for movement on a warlock that Otherworldly Leap is completely ignorable? It can be used for what amounts to 20 extra feet of movement on any turn

[@LeSelQuiTeSale]

I don't understand why you said cofeelock wasn't possible anymore. Just make your spellslots and don't sleep, what has changed?

[@ConstructedChaos]

Coffeelock actually hasn’t been possible as it first was for a while. There’s another comment thread on this video where I go into a lot of detail about it after getting a little confused but the sentiment is the same haha.

[@ConstructedChaos]

Here’s my comment and explanation from that thread: So, first and foremost, I am remembering a JC tweet that said sorcery points are only INTENDED to be used with sorcery spell slots. That makes it RAW but not RAI. Then this clarification came about a while ago: x.com/JeremyECrawford/status/938568519385456641 So, aspect of the moon doesn't remove your need for long resting, just your need for sleeping. Granted, you could still remove levels of exhaustion with enough diamond dust and a friend that can cast greater restoration on you once per day but that seems inconvenient at best and still makes aspect of the moon kinda pointless at worst. Being a rational person, I guess I just assumed they'd add that clarification for sorcery points to the new printing of the book. But maybe I shouldn't be surprised that they didn't. TLDR, Coffeelock is pretty much dead as of a while ago and Cocainelock doesn't need aspect of the moon to work anyway.

[@BlazeLycan]

I disagree on your take regarding Tomb of Levistus. Especially is highly optimized games, Warlocks struggle with their sturdiness and survivability due to the fact that Pact Magic doesn't lend itself nicely to spells like Shield, Absorb Elements, Silvery Barbs, or Counterspell. This makes Tomb of Levistus extremely good in helping a Warlock tank a massive hit that would down them, as getting 50-200 Temp HP at a cost of a reaction and a turn is great when death would cost that turn anyhow. And between it and the other subclass options that help boost sturdiness, with that invocation, you are in a really good position to when it comes to not being a defensive liability to the party.

[@rogerexcell249]

On a related sidenote I would like to suggest Defensive Duelist feat. Its a nice alternative to shield and has infinite uses. At least for Melee strikes agaisnt you ^.^

[@ElocNodnarb]

I was very disappointed that they removed the “extradimensional space”feature of Pact of the Blade that let you never become disarmed. That was always so clutch when captured!

[@ConstructedChaos]

Honestly, I'll take it if the trade off is using our weapon as a spell focus haha. In the playtest, you even got weapon mastery with it!

[@Klaital1]

You can just conjure a new weapon in your hand whenever you want so why does that matter?

[@ElocNodnarb]

@@Klaital1 that doesn’t work with a bonded magic weapon. The 2014 version made it so I could never really have my special magical weapon taken away while conscious.

[@Klaital1]

@@ElocNodnarb If you want that, just go eldritch knight.

[@ElocNodnarb]

@@Klaital1, a 3 level multiclass should not be necessary to replace a lost feature that used to come online at level 1.

[@hawk2222]

alter self at will, silent image at will, pact of tome for conjuring daggers, and at 15lvl invisibility at will... I thik I'll play dark haired character with a bit of superiority complex, who's master trickster... oh and my brother fights with hammer

[@ConstructedChaos]

Hehehe nice to meet you, Loki!

[@Golmov_the_Wretched]

Hard disagree on Pact of the Talisman being worse than the others. It's far less interesting than the others, I'll give you that. But that bonus applies to concentration checks and thats massive for a warlock with their limited spell slots. It may even save you a feat or two that you'd have otherwise used to protect your concentration. Given how feat starved most characters are that's huge.

[@ConstructedChaos]

You do have a point there about concentration checks. But I still feel like it’s the worst pact by far. Eldritch mind does more for your concentration and picking up the skilled origin feat with lessons of the first ones will probably serve you better for ability check boosts in the long run.

[@Golmov_the_Wretched]

@@ConstructedChaos whether it's the best or the worst pact is a bit build, level, and table dependent in my opinion. I'd argue that having an imp at very high levels is nowhere near as good as having one at low levels. Ditto with cantrips most of the time. I would personally never take the skilled feat. But the maths around advantage is heavily dependent on the target number. With 14 con you need to roll an 8 to make most concentration checks. PotT reduces that to (on average) 5.5. Mathematically that's a very similar probability to having advantage. Advantage gives the best return with a target roll of 11, and there it's no competition, but that isn't necessarily what is happening at the table. If we're talking about very easy or very difficult roles then advantage is considerably less useful than a straight D4 bonus. That's more likely to come up at high levels though. And PotT stacks with Eldritch Mind of course. If you really care about concentration then you can take both and possibly put off getting con proficiency via a feat. Both feats and invocations are also limited resources too, and there are many good choices for both. No character can have everything they want. Edit: I should clarify that I'd take Eldritch Mind first in the 2024 rules every time. That wasn't an option in the 2014. I would definitely consider taking PotT with a higher level invocation slot in 2024 though.

[@shawnberry760]

Season of the witch………. Or warlock!!!!

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@shawnberry760 haha just in time for Halloween!!

[@SwordsmanOrion]

It's so funny that they nerfed Divine Smite into the ground and leave Eldrich smite perfectly fine.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@SwordsmanOrion it’s probably because you have to burn warlock spell slots to use it but I don’t disagree haha

[@supmarioful]

Its also only once per turn, so it didn't need to be changed. All the complaints of Divine Smite are all about how its once a turn now

[@WolfHreda]

At first, I thought your take on Pact of the Tome was bad, but it has been nerfed as far as I can tell from the legacy version. Edit: Yup, just scrolled through and they removed Book of Ancient Secrets for 2024 Warlocks. That was the best one. Bastards. 😂

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@WolfHreda well, it isn’t in the 2024 PHB but it is still technically available and I do cover it in this video! Honestly, I think pact of the tome is really good! I just don’t think it’s AS good as the other two.

[@WolfHreda]

@@ConstructedChaos Pact of the Blade is fantastic. I've never been a huge fan of Pact of the Chain, but it is solid. The problem with how Book of Ancient Secrets is set up at the moment is, _because there were no bugs or issues with the 2024 rollout,_ I can't select it on a 2024 Warlock on D&D Beyond. Just means I have to go the long way around to build my favorite Warlock concept again. Especially since he was an Undead Warlock. Edit: Ooh, hey, the Undead Warlock doesn't need Book of Ancient Secrets because the most important spell to this build is on their list: Phantom Steed. Yay.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@WolfHreda Yeah I would say they'll have it fixed up soon but they have a lot more larger issues to address with DNDBeyond functionality. It's pretty rough at the moment haha

[@WolfHreda]

@@ConstructedChaos just glad they decided not to utterly fuck our legacy content. You know, after we had to yell at them about it.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@WolfHreda I completely agree with you-although I don’t think that’s what caused a problem. It seems the design team had almost no correspondence with the DNDBeyond devs because half of their new features “can’t be implemented” in general. It’s honestly a massive problem. They aren’t talking much about it now but I’d bet we see a lot of people get rid of their subs to DNDBeyond if they don’t get it working right soon.

[@slyp4494]

Correction on fiendish vigor; its wording was changed and no longer casts as first level, it just casts without consuming a spell slot. So you cast it at whatever spell level your pact slot is, and you get the max amount of hp. This is far more useful in mid levels than it used to be and I’d recommend keeping it if you have nothing else to fill out those invocations

[@ConstructedChaos]

As I understand, when you cast a spell without consuming a spell slot, the spell is cast at its base level. How does the wording get around this? I don’t think it does but I’m always open to being corrected.

[@WolfHreda]

​@@ConstructedChaos as far as I'm aware, that's correct. The wording of the 2024 version doesn't specify you have to cast it at first level, but everything I've seen about casting without spell slots always defaults that spell to its base level.

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@WolfHreda yeah I’m pretty positive the free cast is at base level. Always has been the case.

[@shotgunridersweden]

Pact of the tome for shillelagh+pact of the blade+repelling blast. Then go 11 levels of fighter for 3 attacks and action surge. You can, assuming you hit on all attacks push an enemy 60 feet back pr turn, your gonna need more movement or preferably flight to punch them along a spikegrowth without using grappling.

[@Dualbladedscorpion7737]

Heres what i say to this.... *ELDRITCH BLAAAAAASSSST!!!!!*

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@Dualbladedscorpion7737 I NEVER EXPECTED THAT!

[@falconnm]

Using invocations that were deleted is cheesy and munchkin like. Two thumbs down

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@falconnm For reference, this is the exact verbiage WOTC used previously: *Will functions that consult spells (ex. Warlock invocations) be affected?* No, they will not. If you have 2014 content enabled, you will still be able to refer to 2014 versions of functions like invocations in your character sheet. Further, I am treating invocations as they instruct across the whole of the book: “Everything is backwards compatible unless it has been reprinted”. For example, other subclasses can be chosen even though the “Walock Subclass” feature has been reprinted. It follows that older options for Eldritch invocations should be compatible as well if not reprinted in the 2024 PHB. If this is not the case, they have done a terrible job of making that clear and I will update this video when/if they do. My intent was to at least make it easy for viewers to discern what is and what isn’t from 2024 so that they can decide for themselves depending on what their DM rules. If you don’t want to use the old invocations, then don’t. I’m simply providing them as an option since it appears to be that they are.

[@DaQQn]

Pls stop min maxing and just play a unique/your Charakter....😢

[@ConstructedChaos]

@@DaQQn The two are not mutually exclusive.

[@007ohboy]

Here's a thought, maybe you can min max AND roleplay. I know, doing 2 things at the same time is really hard for some.

[@MauricioLuigui]

​@@ConstructedChaosCan be both