2020 Tesla Model Y First Impressions | Talking Cars with Consumer Reports

[@jjanovsky1983]

Regarding some of your issues, here is my view (I got my Model 3 4 months ago) 1. I see no reasons why controls for adjusting side mirrors staying in a menu would be a problem - you set them for your driver's profile and forget about them. I see no reason for manual controls for things I am likely to adjust rarely). 2. I am happy with the automatic setting of wipers, but for things like that, the car also has voice commands - no need for manual controls, IMO. 2. The rear-view mirror is IMO irrelevant - I have been using rear camera view instead ever since I got my Model 3 3. Key card - it is only a backup and anyone with an app on their smartphone doesn't need to deal with manually locking/unlocking their Model 3/Y (in 4 months I have only used my key card when I was showing the car to others). 4. I agree that suspension should be a bit softer 5. IMO, wind noise is not an issue (on Model 3) under 90+mph 6. IMO a HUD should be at least an option 7. I agree with your issues with blind-spot monitoring and IMO the car should have a Rear Cross Traffic Alert.

[@cinemuh]

The side cameras located above the key card tap should be used for blind spot and sentry mode.

[@fatboy19831]

The force is strong with this one.

[@kevinchung1492]

Agree your points. One thing to add is you can buy a physical key for $150. I have one just so I can give it to parking attendant without explain how to use the card.

[@grendal9800]

@Pauline Weinberger That's what I was going to comment too. Sure it's inconvenient when there are 5 to 10 reviewers all switching among themselves. That is ridiculously unlikely to happen with a car owned by a family. So for them to even bring it up shows their own absurd bias. They are supposed to act like a consumer. The same is true when commenting on the card. The card is only a backup key. Your phone is your key.

[@Jbiglin]

Agreed on all points, especially on #s 4 and especially #6. I also heard that the mirrors are not auto dimming. Is that true? For $50+K?

[@m40dot]

Controls for mirror and steering wheel? You adjust those once for your profile and it’s saved, not needing to change again. To add buttons for that is silly. And the key card is used like maybe less than 1% of the time if that, meanwhile the key via phone to get in/out, auto lock and unlock is the best experience of any car made.

[@YT-MY]

Reminds me of past blackberry users complaining when Apple removed the keyboard when they re-envisioned the mobile phone.

[@Mabeylater293]

Exactly!

[@Mrbfgray]

There still are physical controls on steering wheel, roller/wobblers and stalks plus pedals on the floor and the steering wheel itself, it's a question of degree.

[@SDav21]

That's a phone. You use a phone when sitting still or standing still. You are constantly looking at what you're pressing and tapping. Driving is different. You can't compare the use of a phone to car. But then again that's the problem with tesla fans and owners. A car is not a phone. Touch screen is fine. It's been there for years. But don't try to fix what isn't broken. Improve it.

[@Chasmodius]

We were cleaning out our storage the other day and pulled out an old Samsung with the slide-out keyboard... and messing around with it felt so nice! It really fit in the hands so well and was a joy to type on. There are pros and cons to all design decisions, but I still really like physical keyboards.

[@DanTalksss]

It is like these guys are complaining they want more buttons on their smartphone. This is ridiculous. So a fix is to add more buttons? Are people going back to blackberries? This is a not a review. What will happen when Tesla removes the steering wheel?

[@stephenj4937]

Phones are meant to be used while you are looking at them. Controls in a car are meant to be used while you are looking at the ROAD. Buttons are easier to use by touch and feel than a screen.

[@aaronbounds1336]

Just about all of the personal preferences for more buttons will fade way into the eithers when FSD is a thing. And that will be sooner than most people realize (I hope, still, since 2016 when Elon first said the details of the LA to NY FSD trip...darn that "Elon time"!).

[@officialyasir]

it's hilarious listening to you guys sometimes. The phone app is the PRIMARY key, you setup it one time and forget about it. I keep the card in my wallet as a back up. The phone stays in my pocket, i get in and drive and walk away and it locks itself, no need to mess with the card. Adjusting the mirrors and steering, how many times do you need to adjust that? I setup 2 driver profiles for myself. Done. Adjusting the vents, it's literally one tap on the fan button on the screen and adjust your vents. It's so much better on-screen because as a driver, I can even point the passenger vents on my face without having to reach across to other side of the car.

[@mitchellbarnow1709]

Almost every feature is programmable per named driver, including all of the ventilation options. It's not just some silly Driver 1, 2 or 3 buttons. Yas, thank you so much for pointing out these people's obvious shortcomings!

[@205rider8]

They are blind to the future.

[@prijicrw]

They really must like to adjust the mirrors A LOT. Seriously, who needs to constantly adjust your mirrors? The car saves all settings for multiple users and automatically adjusts depending on whose phone keys is detected. These really do sound like dinosaur complaints.

[@richardblais5232]

They really are Dinos ... when I drive the Model 3, the screen is very visible without turning my head - especially the the illustrated traffic on the left of the screen ..

[@SDav21]

I adjust the driver side mirror a lot in drive throughs or when maneuvering in tight spaces to see that rear wheel to not curb it. Maybe I'm a paranoid driver but it would be irritating using a screen. It does dip automatically in reverse though.

[@Chasmodius]

Like all automotive journalists, they tend to notice odd things that a lot of us wouldn't, by dint of testing lots of different cars in a short time, and having lots of different people in them adjusting things. But this does let them identify things that aren't "intuitive" (recognizing that a lot of that is from learned behaviors in other cars), and paging through menus to adjust the thing I can see and reach RIGHT THERE is one of those. And while it's not a huge deal on the side mirrors, that vent control is both silly and annoying. Also, the point about why not have the rear-view mirror be automated to driver profiles also makes a lot of sense to me. We switch drivers all the time in my house, and it would be nice if the car could adjust that automatically too.

[@jauffins]

Wanting to see intuitive controls in an expensive vehicle isn't unusual and isn't an attack on Elon Musk, his ego, or by association yours.

[@schnaido]

​@@SDav21 Yeah, I agree with you. You are a paranoid driver, alright.

[@griffd2004]

You guys are so old fashioned. :) I LOVE the on-screen controls for mirrors, steering wheel, and vents! These are not settings you need to adjust often UNLESS multiple people drive your car, which is why it's a beautiful thing that they are tied to your user profile and your key card and smartphone! I'd MUCH rather have the benefits of this than manual controls that I have to re-adjust every time someone drives my car! BTW, I own both a Model S and 3, and I wish my Model S had these same features.

[@thomas8421]

I agree

[@jauffins]

What I'm hearing you say, "Dave G," is that "you've spent a sh*t-ton of money on several vehicles from a brand in a very short period of time" and are therefore less likely to be partial or unbiased on the topic. Thanks for letting us all know.

[@cinemuh]

If you are interested in having all of the buttons and knobs, then it's not the Tesla experience. The a/c vents, no buttons for the mirrors and steering wheel adjustments are what makes the Tesla later model cars "a Tesla". These along with regenerative braking are unique to the Tesla experience. I would never turn off regenerative braking or go back to traditional buttons and knobs. I bought a Tesla Model Y for the Tesla driving experience. All of it. Nothing less. The uncluttered, sleek and futuristic look and feel is 2nd to none. Operating all tasks from the screen is the best idea for a 21st century driving experience. Somewhat like the SpaceX capsule. Sleek and clean.

[@SDav21]

In this case uncluttered and "sleek" are synonyms for cost cutting measures.

[@schnaido]

@@SDav21 This dude must hate Tesla cars with a passion. So, all the stuff he said about desiring the “Tesla experience’’ and going for it just went past your comprehension just so you can make a childish extrapolation of the use of synonyms? Really? He doesn’t care what you think the reason for the features in his car are about. He just likes these features. You don’t even know the reason for anything they do at Tesla because I’m certain you where never consulted in the design. Enough with it already. Do not go near a Tesla car. Do not drive one. Do not buy one. And do not tell someone what to do with their money. I am all for a sleek car that was made from ‘’cost cutting measures”

[@donbusiek3245]

you might want to turn off regen mode on icy roads the braking effect will cause tires to lose grip

[@H1ldy]

Also, regarding the card key issue: you can set up you cell phone via the Tesla app to automatically unlock and start the car. You really do not need the key card thereafter.

[@ctuna2011]

Card key is excellent for water sports. Also you can buy a fob for 150 .

[@Chris21709]

I have lived with my Model Y and after adjusting things that need to be adjusted, there is no need for a bunch of little levers and knobs cluttering up the interior for the rest of the life of the car. Voice controls take care of almost everything. Auto wipers, auto lights, etc.

[@Curtish8892H]

The last time I had to move my rear view mirror was 6 months ago (kids playing with them). Driving my Nissan Cube, the steering wheel blocks the speedo. Why change just for the hell of changing, why do you not ask the legacy OEMs, they do it all the time(add a sport button, when all it does is hold the gear longer, can do the same by smashing the petal to the metal) Why would any business person with any common sense build something exactly the same as someone else when that person already has market dominance. Tesla has to be a trend setter not a follower to be successful, if your truck looks like an F150 you will be out of business. I watch your podcast because I want to know what you think but it can be painful on occasion.

[@cinemuh]

This is the thought. Some are stuck in the 20th. Period. Volvo will be keeping all of buttons and knobs, and adding a battery. Take your pick.

[@SDav21]

Centre mounted dials or screens are not new. Citroën and Toyota had many models with centre dials and screens only years ago. They abandoned the idea because people hated it. Tesla does it not to set trends. But for cost cutting. Having a non existent interior and one screen means conversion from left to right is simple and so is production (and even then they can't get it right). If they were setting trends and they were so dead set on having just one screen, the model s and X would also only have one. But they don't because they're more expensive. So don't kid yourself. Tesla isn't setting trends. They're cutting costs by using that one screen only layout.

[@directorjustin]

A sport setting can affect accelerator pedal mapping.

[@thomas8421]

The negatives you guys point out or all the reasons why I love the Tesla so much. I absolutely hate tons of knobs and buttons everywhere. But honestly best part is there zero maintenance other than Tires

[@bad50]

Exactly, this is the main reason I would NEVER buy a model s or x. I love the interior of model 3/y.

[@Alchete]

I'm really curious why Jake insists on physical controls for side-mirror adjustments when the mirror position is remembered per driver and you'll likely adjust them no more than five times in your entire vehicle ownership? Frankly, from a UX perspective, it's non-sensical. As such, my advice to Jake would be to design rocking chairs rather than vehicle interiors ... I mean, if given the option, of course.

[@g1981c]

agree mirrors are adjusted once so it's not an issue. but having no speedometer in front of you is. some cars half the price have a heads up display whereas here you have a luxury car without a speedometer. i don't care what you say i know the real reason for it - it's to differentiate Model Y from Model X and Model 3 from Model S. Y and 3 and deliberately crippled so people buy the more expensive X and S. every manufacturer does this of course but only Tesla fans actually try to spin this deliberate crippling as innovation.

[@JasonEDragon]

Some criticism is fair on selling a FSD feature for a lot money even though it may not be ready for years. However, one side-effect that you did not mention is that a lot of the safety features will likely improve significantly over the life of the car due to the effort being put into FSD - as these features are all software. What other vehicle can I buy where the safety features improve over time?

[@mrpratster]

Agree. These guys are experts? They nitpick on irrelevant things. Safest car in the world? And gets safer everyday I guess is not important

[@alanrickett2537]

Then don't buy it no need to stop others from having the option.

[@BrandonJoeReich]

No other cars improve over time but these three talked about those changes like they're bad things. I guess in the sense that your car may behave differently when you drive it tomorrow but Teska makes it ultra clear to you when that happens and it's for the better. How dare they change the way my car drives by improving braking, etc? :)

[@prijicrw]

NOBODY uses the damn card. That is for valet and mechanics. Having your phone in your packet when you go out for a drive is pretty standard for most people......

[@ctuna2011]

That Card is excellent for Water Sports wear it in a lanyard around your neck.

[@alainnimri9416]

We have a model 3 and a Model Y. Some of the issues you guys bring up are similar to those brought up during the Motorola flip phones when the iPhone was introduced. Some of the features where we see a lack of knobs or buttons are items that are mostly set and forget on Teslas and phones today. I am a relatively seasoned UX engineer and one the things we consider when designing a human machine interface is frequency of use relative to the prominence and positioning of user elements, buttons and functions. For example, how often does one adjust all the functions of a car like cabin temperature or auto headlight dimming? Teslas have a feature where all car settings are remembered for you -- including mirrors, A/C, driving features, breaking etc all except for audio settings. So you don't need every knob available for every setting. When was the last time you adjusted the vertical hold on your TV? I am probably 20+ years older than you guys. I do believe us old guys need to employ someone in their twenties to compliment your guys' analysis as they have different ideas than us older folks. I do trust Consumer Reports on most everything you review.

[@SDav21]

Most cars have memory settings that do that all anyway. They still have the physical controls. Doesn't make it any different.

[@usamericans6045]

The door handle is for aero (more miles of range). Service techs have told me the Model 3 handles are dead simple to repair, whereas the Model S handles are a nightmare.

[@davedujour1]

The Model 3 handles are a simple lever. The Model S had a very complicated motorized system that when it breaks is expensive.

[@TheHomeExpert5]

@@davedujour1 why are service text from Tesla having to fix the door handles in the first place? When is the last time any car had a problem with the door handle malfunctioning?

[@JeffreyKoistinen]

@@TheHomeExpert5 First, the Model S door handles are NOT hard to fix by the Tesla tec. Yes they take your door apart and replace the small motor on the inside. I know, I watched them do it on 2014 and 2017 Model S. Took them less then an hour both times. At my house. Never had a problem with my Model 3 handles and dont know anyone else who has.

[@schnaido]

@@TheHomeExpert5 seriously? Is that a legit question? Google door handle malfunctions as see for yourself.

[@rodneylwright7341]

Your comments about the beta software stopping at every city-street traffic control were perhaps correct when you recorded this. but at the time that version was sent out, Tesla announced that a subsequent version would remove that behavior. Indeed, a short time later, a new over-the-air update changed that behavior. So by the time you published this report, it was obsolete. Things improve quickly.

[@Chasmodius]

I think that's part of their point: they cannot adequately critique "beta" features because they keep changing, yet those features are being used to promote and sell the cars.

[@fatboy19831]

7:40 I understand where you guys are coming from. Now all those complaints can be handled by voice commands like " open glovebox"

[@cinemuh]

Or waiting for the traditional auto makers to add a battery to their 20th century cars. They'll be here soon. Tesla is unique and futuristic. If you cannot leave the 20th century behind, too bad.

[@205rider8]

Great point! Can’t believe they did not mention voice commands. Are they really uninformed? Especially the one is the supposed “Tesla” expert. Clearly this guys are old ICE guys and out of touch.

[@UTUBESUCK666]

@@205rider8 "are they really that uniformed". Yes, they are.

[@ChaimLoecher]

Haha, and he wants another stalk for windshield wipers ... i barely remember those things existed anymore. Its amazing how technology eliminates physical things.

[@Pimptobizmal]

@@ChaimLoecher What happens when you quckly need to clean the windsheild? you have to go into menu after menu then click to clean...

[@PhilT993]

That was a really good point made about the blind spot detection warning location not being where you should be looking. As a potential Tesla owner, that had not occurred to me before. As a former race car driver and race track driving instructor for over 30 years, one of the first principles we teach is lead with your eyes before you act. Your eyes should always be looking into the corner well before you get there, etc.

[@leeoldershaw956]

There are no "Blind Spots" in a properly adjusted Tesla. If you're on autopilot and signal a lane change the car won't do it unless it's clear.

[@rookiem3533]

@Jakub Janovský Mentions the points very nicely. 1. Voice commands are such an under reported feature for teslas. There are so many functions it can do. 2. Were the presenters complaining that the stop on traffic light feature is improving with new updates!!!! Come on. So they do not like the feature as it was initially. When new updates improve it then also they have an issue with that. Tesla adding and improving car via OTA is an amazing and unbeatable point ( as of now at least). 3.For adjusting the HVAC ( even including the airflow) voice commands work. So unlike traditional vents you do not need to move your hands from steering wheel. 4. Also mirror adjusting is done once for each profile and that is it. I also have not done adjustment ever since i saved my profile.And this car can save way more profiles than the measly 2 profiles merc and others give you. 5. Fair point about the suspension. But i guess since tesla wanted to make this sporty ( and also the heavy weight of car ) they did that. Model S and X have air suspension I believe hence they are softer. 6. Fair point about the no blind spot indicator on the rear view mirror. But the presenter missed that Model 3 st least warns audible chimes and on screen Red warning if there is a car in blind spot and car is shifting lanes. However next few updates are going to enable side repeater camera on screen when turn indicator is turned on , similar to honda systems. 7.I have used Key Card once when I wanted tocheck whether they were paired correctly. Unlike other OEM these cards do not cost hundreds. Just 35USD. A physical key fob is available for 150 USD for those who like that.

[@DCUPtoejuice]

this discussion makes it clear how far Tesla has to go and how far behind everyone else is now and will become more so as time goes on.

[@schnaido]

@John Edwards No, I haven’t seen them. Have you been in any of them yet?

[@directorjustin]

@John Edwards The efficiency of Teslas is unbeaten.

[@goldenlion3184]

Card Key: I used it once, thereafter my phone opens the car without taking it from my pocket. Lifechanger truly. Crossover. It's a crossover, guys. Door handles. Really? Why would they bother you? Kinda cool, recessed for air flow, easy to use. Air noise: Yes, I agree. Wonder why? Buttons: Your profile is saved, your wife, your 16 year old. Just choose your name from the menu and it's all automatic. Minimalist interior: yes, yes, yes. So gorgeous. You go back to an ICE and think "what is all this crap hanging off the dashboard?". Heads up display: Geezer alert. Drive the car a couple weeks and you forget that you ever had one. Your brain adjusts. Windshield wipers are on a stalk. I suggest using the car before reviewing. Aircon controls: This I actually agree, as I adjust it often. Would be nice to be able to control from the wheel (like model S) Stiff driving: Drives like my porche (which I sold), but much faster. like a rocket on rails. Most fun amazing driving experience of my life. Lane alert: Do you really depend on this in other cars? I don't. Camera might not work? Well, the rear view mirror might fall off the windshield. Self Driving: Tesla is an inch away from FSD. You are part of the beta. Yes, it changes weekly--that's what makes it so freaking exciting. Reliability: You guys are making this stuff up! I'm 4 teslas in, and all I've *ever* had to do was change the tires. Sheesh. Teslas are like iPhones were at first, they are revolutionary, different, disruptive, and so cool, so functional, so so the future. And a total blast to drive. There are some real review items you could. hit, but this just feels like a bitch session about buttons. Sounds like my dad complaining about all the new fangled stuff.

[@Jaahhhnnnn]

Tesla being "an inch" away from FSD is the most comical part of your comment. They've been an "inch" away for 10 years lol Watch the new Polestar 2 reviews for a real gorgeous interior. Tesla M3/Y just seems...empty.

[@Chris21709]

Don't rely on the screen. What happened to situational awareness. Rely on eyes, mirrors. Don't zone in straight ahead; who does that? That's dangerous. Pilots are taught to scan airspace and instruments. Don't obsess.

[@toronado455]

Good episode. I like how you focused entirely on the model Y. I think it might be nice too adopt that format for future episodes.

[@ajibawi]

I am a Fan of consumer reports and I respect all your opinions. I have been driving Gasoline vehicles my whole life and finally bought the Model Y which honestly dont regret at all. you get great technology, speed and luxury in one vehicle. yes the size is pretty much a model 3 but actually its much bigger and more useful for a family. I honestly cant think of a vehicle within this price range that can compete. prove me wrong. I just sold my Jaguar F type R which is way more expensive but it is not an everyday drive. I believe this vehicle is only for certain type of people. this is the future of driving and I believe you guys need to get use to it. when you buy a regular vehicle you are stuck with the way it is. tesla upgrades automatically and you always have new features. that is just my opinion.

[@joshuarosen465]

I have the 3. Ride and noise are valid criticisms, key card and menus aren't. The key card is for backup if your phone dies or for valets, you never use it otherwise. The phone is the key, the car detects your Bluetooth and unlocks. It just works. Controls that are on menus are also accessible by voice. You want to adjust your mirrors, turn on the wipers, change the AC or heat, just tell it by voice, your hands never need to leave the steering wheel. The blind spot detection is also fine. Your problem is that you drive five different cars in a day so you cant adapt. If you owned a Tesla you would check the screen before deciding to change lanes, it's only if the lane next to you is clear do you look over at that lane and start to make your turn.

[@nickolastiguan]

The comment section is always entertaining on a Tesla episode 😂

[@nickolastiguan]

Pauline Weinberger you just prove my point. Love your Tesla or nothing mentality mate.

[@SDav21]

@Pauline Weinberger Most cars have better safety, convenience and comfort tech. Having a large touch screen doesn't make it any more 21st century than any other car. This is the problem with you tesla nutties. It's only your way or the highway. No one else can have an opinion that's contrary to yours. Everyone else is wrong but you.

[@SDav21]

Yes. They best believe the cult is coming for them. It's crazy.

[@davedujour1]

@@SDav21 I think the NHSTA would argue with you about the safety comment.

[@schnaido]

@@SDav21 Hahaha, and why does it have to be cult? People keep making the same arguments and complaints about cars they don’t own. They really should not buy a Tesla if they don’t like a Tesla. Just get another car. No one is forcing a purchase on anyone. Let them enjoy their cars in peace. So, now when they try to educate the ignorant about their own cars, its misread as an ‘’attack’’ . I don’t think it should be seen that way, to be honest. But again, this is just my opinion. What do I know?

[@Mrbfgray]

I appreciate the perspective from car guys who aren't Tesla fanatics.

[@aviduser1961]

Like most internet reviewers these guys have not spent enough time with the 3 or Y. Those who own these cars will understand what I mean. Too bad they didn't mention single pedal driving, the incredible re-imagined HVAC system, voice commands and Sentry Mode. I used to get excited about iOS updates for the iPhone. No longer because Model 3 Updates are frequent and much more compelling. Car of the future!

[@SDav21]

Lol. Nothing you mentioned is really compelling. Every car has hvac whether it comes through vents or slits it needs to do only one thing. Cool or heat and keep out viruses and bacteria and smells.

[@andrewkaylor2416]

Did we really complain about they card (key)? No one considered that many/most owners are likely to use their smartphone as a key? Do we complain about other keys that don't stick into the ignition the same way? I don't typically watch these reviews on this channel.

[@stephenj4937]

And what happens if your phone battery dies?

[@donrobin8845]

@@stephenj4937 His point is that key card is secondary. And lots of phone charging options in the M3 and Y.

[@schnaido]

@@stephenj4937 And what happens if you lose your car keys? People just complain about everything. The model 3 has a key card, your phone app and a key fob. All to cater to your need of entry. How generous can a car company get?

[@hoffmantnt]

The majority of the issues raised in this video are not issues for someone who owns the car. How often do you adjust your mirrors or use the keycard after you have owned the car for more than a day or a week?

[@jimterry6155]

We all have to remember that most drivers of Tesla's are owners. They get comfortable with the features and options of the vehicle, and I have not hear many of the items raised here as issues. I believe many of the comments made here are the result of drivers who have driven the model Y some, but probably also drive other vehicles in their job responsibilities. I have no problem with their comments, but I don't believe they are the level of concern raised by the speakers. Most of their driving is likely in ICE cars, my only driving is in an EV

[@stevelamper4654]

AIR VENTS are Amazing! SO EASY!!!

[@cypvh74]

steve lamper impossible to safely adjust while driving.

[@AllanSustainabilityFan]

@@cypvh74 Press button oh wheel, use voice: "set temperature bla bla" and voila. Easy peasy, it also brings up the vent adjustment automatically. This is just old guys complaining about very basic technology stuff.

[@bad50]

I love the vents. Gives me infinite amount of control over the AC. These guys are a joke. 25% down vote and counting. LMAO.

[@aquatsr]

@@cypvh74 Engage cruise control, glance down, glance up, glance down, adjust, disengage CC. Cumbersome? Debatable. Impossible? Not at all. An owner would know this.

[@mart0225]

Allan Using voice is too vague and takes too long. As a result it requires more attention than blindly reaching for a knob and turning it. Yes, I’ve tried it. It’s also inconvenient when talking with passengers or listening to music or podcasts. Another problem with voice controls is they are not easily discoverable. To change the temp with physical controls takes almost no thought. To change it with voice requires knowing the commands. For families with multiple drivers and vehicles from multiple manufacturers, remembering voice commands for each and the nuances of interacting with the systems is a challenge.

[@curtisangelamay1510]

How many times do you adjust your side view mirrors? I've set them once, and have not done anything with them since.

[@Mrbfgray]

Some will change seat position on a long drive requiring mirror adj. I often momentarily aim my mirrors at a curb, this is not optional when parallel parking. (my cars aim the rt. side down in reverse if you set it that way then returns when out of reverse, granted cams and screen(s) should eliminate that necessity)

[@ericopp1]

@@Mrbfgray you can have the mirrors automatically tilt down when you shift into reverse in a Tesla

[@SDav21]

@@Mrbfgray Exactly what I do. I adjust the driver side mirror when in a narrow drive through or parking. In reverse the passenger side tilts down automatically. Imagine having to use the screen all the time.

[@Lyonel99]

Tesla is the only electric car I would consider today, because it’s the only electric car you can easily drive long distances.

[@stevenh4797]

Correction: autopilot is standard, not an option you have to pay for.

[@tipoomaster]

Technically you can phone in order for a model without it at a reduced cost, so it is an added cost.

[@iparrott]

Depends what you want. Smart cruise and autosteer in lane are standard. Full self driving, which most people refer to as autopilot, you have to pay extra for.

[@smartelectriccar]

tipoomaster no. Model Y has autopilot standard. This is not. model 3 review

[@markplott4820]

Consumer Reports - FACTS are EVERY Tesla car made since April 2019 has FULL Autopilot (now FREE) + FSD hardware in the car. Its up to the Owner if they want to Activate the FSD option. and currently Tesla is up to Full Time L4 FSD (Human Behind the Wheel). and cars with HW2.5 are able to get Full Autopilot + FSD Hardware replaced.

[@bahrahme]

Tesla is not even close to L3 with lack of hardwares missing in the car atm.

[@emiliorescigno]

Ya'll gotta install the app on your phones, throw the card in your desk and never use it.

[@RatKing59]

Until a software update breaks the app and you can’t open the car, which has happened twice. This also makes you dependent on an internet connection.

[@qlump1e]

@@RatKing59 You don't need an internet connection to open the doors. It uses bluetooth.

[@m40dot]

Sir Alexander phone doesn’t need internet access to get in or drive. And i keep my key card in wallet for backup if my phone batt dies or something.

[@cypvh74]

Just get the key fob.

[@men2dewy]

I hope your phone is totally reliable. Maybe you want to keep the card on you.

[@ptester1]

I just got a Model Y, and after driving it for a week I have to wonder what these guys are smoking. Key - yes, the card key is annoying - if you use it. The reality is you never use it. You set up your phone and then leave the key card at home. If you really want a FOB, you can purchase one separately, but the phone is incredibly convenient. My Audi has a standard key fob and I far prefer the model Y’s system. Also, consider this: If you lose a key fob to any newer car you’re stuck paying several hundred dollars for a new fob and to have the dealer program the computer to recognize it. No such issue with the Tesla. Screen - I was worried about having the screen (and speedometer) off to the side. I got used to it in less than a day and the reality is there’s no difference between looking down between my hands vs to the right of my right hand. The advantage of eliminating the regular dashboard is that the dash in front of you is lower, giving you a clearer view of the road. It’s also nice having cool air blowing straight at you from behind the steering wheel. Controls - Definitely a bit of a learning curve, but after a couple of days I found the controls to be quite intuitive, and there isn’t much you really need to use the screen for. My wife tends to have a hard time with technology and I was actually a bit worried about her but after she sat down and spent 10 minutes playing with the system she said she thought it was easy and said she wouldn’t mind getting one for herself! Mirror adjustments - totally agree with @prijicrw’s comment. The Y remembers settings for various drivers, so you have to set the mirrors once. The side mirror even angles in and down when you put it in reverse. The same is true with the steering wheel adjustments. Bottom line: these guys seem to be making mountains out of mole hills and their comments make me wonder how much they actually drove the car.

[@bjs2022]

Production recording failure: "Bad sound makes good video look bad.” Only one of you three made the effort to avoid the bad room acoustics by using an external microphone. At a minimum it’s easy. Use the microphone on earphones, corded or cordless, and select that for the sound source on your video device.

[@richardouimet5091]

Rear Cross Traffic Alert is missing as well as the Blind Spot Warning system.

[@205rider8]

Has Model 3 for two years. Not an issue with the large screen and back up camera.

[@InternetDude]

My Lexus has more tech than my Tesla other than showing me the cars around me. 360 cameras, front & rear cross traffic alert, real blind spot warnings, etc.

[@xSyph]

These guys are stuck in the past thinking that they need physical buttons for everything.

[@Tjosansa]

Syphher Yeah. Painful to listen to it. Stopped the video half in it.

[@Thomas-re9ky]

They forgot to mention range, 0-60, safety, space, sentry mode, dog mode, video games, Netflix/Hulu, supercharger network, navigation system, wireless charger, voice commands, frunk space, heated seats, the Tesla App etc. Tesla could fix every little thing they complained about and they would still find 2-3 little subjective preferences they have and talk them for an entire episode and ignore everything else. Bias bias bias. They always will be. I used to like CR because they measured OBJECTIVELY but it's clear when it comes to Tesla they SUBJECTIVE.

[@ctuna2011]

There job is to be critical reviewers I don't think they were all that down on the car.

[@ElijahsAba]

That’s their job.

[@BrandonJoeReich]

Dear goodness.....hate to leave a negative comment but you guys sound like the old guys with flip phones that don't understand the value of a smart phone. You talk about door handles not being fixed like Blackberry users wondering when iPhones would be "fixed" by finally adding a physical keyboard. Also your flip phone didn't update and change how it works but the iPhone does and it's a HUGE improvement. The Tesla updating how it works is a good thing. The incremental updates allow for testing and teaching the AI Model otherwise they can't ever get to full self-driving. Really seems incredibly short-sighted. Instead of complaining about the change maybe be excited that your car improves over time rather than degrading like nearly every other vehicle.

[@stephenj4937]

The door handles are an issue for people with limited dexterity in their hands (arthritis, etc.).

[@MelM154]

Regarding being frustrated about the the functions being in the touch screen: have you tried using voice commands? It is still in development but for example I can set my temperature and direction of the fan, skip songs etc with my voice after hitting to toggle.

[@zipobob1]

3 things that bothered me about Model 3 when I test drove it: 1) No proper blind spot warning as mentioned 2) No 360 degree camera. I know there's a parking sensor when you reverse but thats kinda old school. They have all those cameras, just show me a top down & 360 view like so many other luxury cars. 3) Indicator stalk snaps back to center position immediately (like older BMWs)

[@cinemuh]

Would like to have the side panel cameras added to the sentry mode suite of cameras.

[@joshuarosen465]

They just added side view to the backup screen. Side view when changing lanes is expected shortly.

[@aquatsr]

1. There is a blind spot warning via the sensor suite. It's not visual, it's auditory, which is honestly way safer than trying to find a video feed or indicator. 2. Something like this was recently added. Another reason why OTA is great. 3. Personal preference? If this is a dealbreaker for folks they shouldn't buy the car (honestly not buying a car because you didn't like the stalk operation is extremely petty. After a few weeks you won't even remember why you didn't like it)

[@Pyedr]

12:20 'I don't think anyone's going to complain [if they gave you buttons/knobs to adjust the mirrors or steering wheel]...those don't make the car worse.' I would. As a Model 3 owner I'm very glad Tesla didn't make a pointless extra button/knob that does nothing but adjust one thing that rarely needs adjustment. It would have unambiguously made my car worse in my opinion.

[@andysccs1]

How many times a day do you actually adjust the settings once you set everything and then save your profile.

[@Chris21709]

I use the optional key fob for Model Y and it works great! The cards are for backup, nothing more.

[@ajacobso9]

Jake Fisher: The single screen is not a drawback. You don’t have to use the screen if you don’t want to. Almost all menu functions are available by voice. Just say “set fan speed to 5”, “wipers on”

[@Tazman55x]

Humans inherently dislike change. Everything is going digital. Blackberry died because it had analog controls when Apple went full digital. FSD and traffic light gets updates and changes the "driving experience" because it's learning. We, the humans, are training the program to drive itself. Know what you are driving. It's not a normal ICE car. It's a new experience.

[@ChanningChea]

Even when Apple made their main interface entirely digital, they still kept some physical buttons because it only makes sense to have those controls remain analog. The volume rocker and silent mode switch are examples. However, driving a car is not the same type of experience. Swiping through your phone to look for a feature is not as dangerous as fumbling through controls while you’re driving.

[@MikeBrokenArrow]

@@ChanningChea That's exactly why Tesla kept some of the buttons physical.

[@MikeBrokenArrow]

That's why these guys sound like dinosaurs. What I don't understand is they look young, but their thoughts are almost obsolete.

[@ltkwok]

Plus there was just a $3,000 price drop on the Model Y.... less than 6 months after it came out.

[@Carlos_TX]

For the record, price went up before the price drop. Still "more" than when it first came out.

[@roguedogx]

4:53 I can object to it not being an actual SUV all day long if I have to pay an extra $10k for what is effectively a hatchback version of an already existing car. As opposed to the difference between the civic sedan and hatchback, which I think is pretty minimal by comparison. Yes, this is not just a tesla thing (literally every automaker is doing it), but I'm not shelling out that much more money for the same car with more head room and a hatch, that probably should have have been on the model 3 in the first place. my point is some of these crossovers are just too much money for too little improvement.

[@roguedogx]

12:54 that all sounds like stuff the Mach-e will most likely do better.

[@roguedogx]

24:01 to the guy who's got a model y on order, if you can maybe cancel your order and wait and see for the Mach-e. it's the closest competitor, and it looks like it will do everything the Y will do at a similar price. If you test drive the Mach-e, and don't like it, you can always reorder your model y. for my next suggestion, I'm going to assume you want a similar price and space, but are willing to forgo the blistering performance. the Kia Niro EV is also a pretty good option. it's down on range, but some limited data I have suggest that the liquid cooled (or heated) battery is better at keeping the range "stable" meaning you'll lose less range over time and if your climate is too hot or too cold. Consumer reports if you have conflicting data, please correct me. while I can't vouch for the ride personally, I understand it's pretty smooth. if you are willing to spend more money and get something that, got a great ride, great features, lots of space, but less range than the Tesla, you could also consider the Audi E-tron. it fits your criteria, but it is way less valve for money than the tesla, and I don't know if you want to spend that kind of cash. of course you could also get a used one in the same range as the model y, if you are willing to go that route.

[@jimmelay71]

Americans love SUVs so much we just raise hatchbacks and people will pay more. The Subaru Impreza/Crosstrek is one of the more brazen examples.

[@stevendennis9417]

It’s $3K more than a comparable 3.

[@neil454]

As someone who's owned a Model 3 for over a year, I'm not sure why you guys keep bringing up "issues" that are really not. 1) Door handles - these are purposefully built to be aerodynamic. They probably add a few miles of range. After using them for a week they are dead simple to get used to. 2) Physical mirror controls - I haven't touched these settings ever since I bought the car. They are saved to my profile, so why would I want random buttons in the cabin that I'll never use? 3) Physical vents - You can't really compare Tesla's HVAC system to other cars, it's just so different in design. I feel like the long vent allows more diffuse airflow, whereas most cars have small vents which you have to keep adjusting to point at what you want. Also, without an instrument cluster, you have the benefit of airflow coming straight through the steering wheel in front of you. How would I adjust this vent in a physical manner? Would you rather reach your hand through the steering wheel while driving? 4) Key card - I see so many reviewers complain about this. This is not an issue for people who actually own the car. The keycard is a backup you keep in your wallet (don't need to carry a fob, which is amazing). 99.99% of the time, your phone's bluetooth connects automatically and you just get in, drive, get out, walk away. No unlocking or even locking necessary. This is a feature, not a bug. Hell, you can buy a normal key fob if you really want. Honestly as a long time consumer, you guys seem to think that driving a Tesla is like driving any other car, and it's simply not. I use Autopilot 99% of the time on highways, so I don't even really care that I have to adjust some things on the screen. Hell, even on inner roads that are clearly marked and straight, I'll use Autopilot briefly if I need to adjust the settings/navigation. Sure, Navigate on Autopilot doesn't work perfectly in heavy traffic scenarios, but I've used it on long road trips with light traffic and it's a godsend. The self-driving tech gets better all the time, yet you guys seem to keep moving the goal posts. The fact of the matter is you simply can't get these kinds of features on other cars.

[@TheHomeExpert5]

For the Joker who uses autopilot 99% of the time, you don't like cars. You just want a mini bus to get you from one spot to another and you have no passion for cars.

[@davedujour1]

Oh look, a bunch of old guys yet again complain about tablet interfaces. With those driver profiles one should never need to change the location of the mirrors or the steering wheel or the air vents. The complaint about the lack of a binnacle under the steering wheel is tired. Did they complain about the Mini's speed gauge in the middle of the dash too? It also sounds like they never bothered to learn the thumb wheel or voice interfaces. This car UI is far far better than more buttons that only get used a couple of times a year. Rarely used menus are less visually cluttered than rarely used buttons.

[@folie-n3t]

I don't get why Tesla people keep crawling out and complaining about CR's issues with the Tesla.

[@davedujour1]

@@folie-n3t I was genuinely interested in their review. I like CR and like hearing their opinions about products. But when this review is the same tired "where are all the buttons" uselessness then it doesn't help anyone. The interior of the Model Y is the same interior as the Model 3 that we saw how many years ago now? You either like it, or you get used to it, or you don't. That's all they needed to say. To go on about the UI of the Model Y more than that isn't a useful review.

[@chicomtl]

all the issues that were criticized are the exact issues that bother me when I drive a traditional car . Just because it was always made that way does not make it better. I hate looking for the buttons in borrowed cars. And please try this : how much really your eyes leave the road looking down to view your speed versus looking up to the right ? I see much more tilting my head sideways than almost closing my eyes looking down. My other other comments pretty much have already been said below. Drive only this car for a week, and you will see that other configurations are extremely dated.

[@SDav21]

Why change something that isn't broken? That's pointless. The one screen thing is not for ergonomics or anything else other than cost cutting. With one screen and a non existent interior that's symmetrical in layout, that means conversion to right hand drive cars are simple and then production is simple (and even then they can't get it right). If the one screen thing is so fantastic and tesla is dead set on it, the model s and X would be so too. But they're not because they're more expensive cars. Citroën and Toyota had many models years ago with centre only dials and screens. They abandoned the idea because everyone hated it.

[@Chris21709]

Tesla is training its neural net with these incremental updates, collecting data from all its cars on the road.

[@bruceperson7820]

May I suggest that you first introduce the model and options of your test vehicle. I have a performance model Y and it is very quiet. However, at low speed (20 mpg) going down a country road with potholes, it drives like an old truck. Drive it faster and it get better.

[@MrUX-cb4wn]

I think what you guys are missing is that the big center console that controls almost everything in the Model 3 and Y was not mainly designed to provide a better user experience for its owners. It was developed as one of the major ways to cut the costs of the Model 3 and Y to make them more affordable than the S and the X. You can just imagine how many physical controls they saved by putting everything into that screen. If it was a better user experience, the newer Model S and X would have adopted it.

[@andrerodriguez7603]

Fix the door handles. I love the Model 3 door handles. They really need to know the functionality of the car before testing the vehicle. The blind spot warning system on my Model 3, must be the same for the Model Y. When changing lanes and a car is in your blind spot, the car gives you a very loud audible beeping to warn you. This actually happened to me when changing lanes on a city street. I didn’t see a Mazda Miyata in my blind spot. My car started beeping at me warning me. I corrected going into the lane a split second before the driver stared honking her horn. I feel this Tesla warning system works very well. Since the Model Y is based on the Model 3 and is built better than the Model 3, so in essence you are buying a second generation Model Y. Why wait for a second generation Model Y, when that is what you will be buying today. Also if you can get a Kona that is fine. But since they have a battery shortage on these EVs you will wait quite a long time to get one. I’ve wanted to see one on the street since they started selling them over a year ago. I live in Los Angeles and I have never seen one yet. These guys are clueless about what they are doing.

[@donrobin8845]

My wife drives a M3. I had some of the same critiques on the blind spot systems when I first was allowed to drive it. I typically start at the screen and then the mirror and then physically check over my shoulder. Like others here I think you become accustom to the systems over time. I also think you guys should consider the charging possibilities while road tripping. We love the supercharger network. While groups like Electrify America are doing better, I think it is a huge barrier to entry for other models if you plan on taking it out of town. We've completed several trips between Indianapolis and Atlanta and never had a charging location full. It certainly takes longer to charge than to pump gas, but that also continues to improve over time with more V3 Superchargers coming online. You also need to learn about how to charge using the superchargers. You rarely want to put a full charge on the battery at a supercharger. It takes too long as it slows down significantly as the battery 'fills up'. That means you really need to stop more frequently than you may want to do on a road trip, but we've found it a little better to make those extra pit stops. Just my 2 cents. We are thinking about replacing our Subaru Forester with a Model Y next year. Not ready to pull the trigger until it has been out for a year or so. Thanks for the review. Some good insights here.

[@hereigoagain5050]

Jesh, is this an AARP episode?

[@jasonbodor]

So while you guys are correct that having to use the dash for adjusting the vents is a cool, but frustrating feature on the Model 3 and Model Y. I would have to completely disagree on the complaint about the steering wheel and mirror adjustment complaint. As a journalist you may be jumping in and out of cars and always having to adjust these things, but as a consumer I have not touched the steering wheel adjustment or mirrors in over a year in my car. Why have the excess buttons for something a consumer uses maybe 10 times in the years of owning their vehicle?

[@directorjustin]

I like the idea of having the air vent positions linked to driver profiles because everyone likes their air vents in different positions. This can be due to multiple factors like height, driving position, or just personal preference (some people like air hitting their face, some people don't). With the vent positions linked to driver profiles, everyone who drives the car has the vents put in the exact position they like. It's one of many small things (like seat position and mirror position), that when put together make a big difference, especially for families who share one car.

[@b0nd18t]

Fair to say it should have blind spot warning in the mirrors. I think they will improve the warning system through software on the screen at least. Asking for separate buttons for adjusting steering wheel and side mirrors (that you set maybe once during your entire ownership) was an odd thing to pick on

[@aquatsr]

@@theguruguys It already does that. Any seasoned owner would know this. These guys aren't owners though.

[@Pyedr]

@@theguruguys There is one.

[@thewolfdoctor761]

5 minutes wasted arguing about whether it is an SUV or a hatchback

[@YT-MY]

It makes you question how in-depth and impartial the vehicle reviews actually are.

[@devilfriend]

@@YT-MY No it does not.

[@neil454]

Here's what they should've said: It's shaped like a compact SUV, it has the storage space of a mid-sized SUV, and it handles like a hatchback.

[@uccn]

I was considering the Y because I am getting on in age and it is difficult for me to get into and really roll out of a sedan. Many of the comments made about so-called minor features have convinced me not to bother with this car until at least a year's improvement. For the elderly (I'm 79), minimalism is out. I need to find easy access to windshield wipers, a/c vents, etc. Having a computer display with multiply-layered screens for these simple functions is actually dangerous and time consuming. I have a Toyota Camry Hybrid and the problem I have with Toyotas is those bars on the sides of the windows. Visibility is checked. The solution of the Y is dangerous; to check your left side to see if a car is coming, you have to turn your head to the right to look at the screen. This is counter-intuitive and dangerous, to say the least. I will wait and see for another year. Guys: great analysis!

[@tbvv6729]

uccn I am in my 40s and is fine with tech but the Tesla model Y & 3 controls are too minimalist. You don’t want your eyes on the one screen to adjust controls while driving. I also owned a Toyota hybrid currently and want to go all electric. I guess I will wait a little longer.

[@uccn]

@@tbvv6729 I love technology...but this model Y does not fit me. I think I will get the RAV Prime, even though it is a Toyota with limited visibility on the sides.

[@mikewashington5628]

Take a test drive. My Model Y is four weeks old today. I never make adjustments while driving that require navigating multiple layers of screens. I found the center screen to be intuitive. All of the important driving information is featured on the left side of the screen, an easy glance in my experience. Blind spot warning works as advertised. It is not subtle. HVAC controls are at the bottom center of the main screen. Temperature, fan speed and seat heaters are easy to adjust. I am really happy with the controls compared to my Audi A3. MMI navigation cannot be safely set while in motion. I will master the voice controls on my Tesla soon. It has been great to leave the AC on in "Dog" mode while running errands. So far the other manufactures are selling vaporware due out in 2021 or 2022. They do not have battery supplies or technology to meet a reasonable level of demand for EV's.

[@ayon06]

Good reporting - though I will say that I feel 100% more relaxed and secure when the autopilot/fsd takes over on highways.

[@dohiedoh]

Model S has air suspension VS Model Y has traditional springs...why would you compare the two

[@dhincks1]

As an owner of a 3 all the "guage" comments. I Absolutely don't miss them. The only time I use the card is if I forget my phone. I appreciate the the fact the car unlocks when I open the door. I press the break pedal I've opted for utilizing the pin code to operate so I punch in the code and off I go. The places whare the Tesla leaves the traditional comparable vehicles behind. Once you get used to not going to a gas station I realized how polluted those are, not smelling raw gas fumes it's a big deal. Running the air conditioning say in dog mode without running an engine my dogs really appreciate it it's over 100° outside it's 66° in the Tesla. Once the car is set up seat,mirrors and steering wheel I save my name on tha big screen, my wife has hers saved push the icon and immediately changes. The auto assist is simply brilliant. Especially on the freeway either stop and go totally runs the vehicle slows.& accelerates as to traffic flow. On long distance runs it's fantastic!! Arriving relaxed after driving all day. San Francisco to San Diego time consuming but virtually stress free. Once you trust the car I had to learn, at first I took over often now hardly at all. And charging I've gotten used to stopping every few hours for 15 minutes. Not fully charging it just bumping it up 200+ miles added.

[@markplott4820]

Consumer Reports - the Model Y is a Compact SUV but with Sports Car Handeling. it has BEST in Class SAFETY, BEST in class Range, BEST in class Economy , BEST in class Handeling, and BEST in Class CARGO .

[@bad50]

I do love their smug attitudes. Brings so much to the video. 👍👍👍👍. Can't imagine why they have a 25% down vote. UPDATE 7/17/20: Down vote is now 31% and climbing. Good job guys.

[@AdamNguyen1]

You guys sound like the people that still uses flip phones.

[@curtisangelamay1510]

So, you're also upset because your static review of the car today, could be obsolete in a month when Tesla updates the software, over the air, without having to bring it to a dealer. Progress really sucks.

[@thewolfdoctor761]

Turning the wipers on through a menu is dangerous. Even as little as a second delay by having to use a menu or voice command can be deadly if you get hit quickly with a downpour. If nothing else, there should be a separate knob for wipers.

[@leeoldershaw956]

They are automatic and you can adjust them by a voice command.

[@srulyp1]

The guy with the green shirt is just STUCK😅

[@stevelamper4654]

Think of The Tesla Y like a smart phone vs a dial phone or a first generation cell phone. You just have to adapt to training yourself. Such as life. Change is a GOOD thing. I am surprised you guys didn't talk about "when I was a kid....!" Old ideas, does not mean better.

[@bruceperson7820]

Additional note: Less than 2 weeks into it, I got a software update. From your first comments you haven't stated what software version you tested with. Guy in green thanks for discussing the software update about going through a green light when following another car. Software changes the behavior of the car. I suggest that when you specify the model and option, you really must preface your comments about what software version you are testing with. I'm a software programmer. Software changes. This is something that reviewers need to understand especially when reviewing software driven vehicles. All software features are subject to change (I call improve - that is precisely what legacy auto makers do not yet understand - improvements between model years extend the capabilities of the vehicles). Mine has gained 11 miles of range in 2 weeks. I wonder what the future holds.

[@whattheschmidt]

Most of the things they listed as negatives are not true. It sounds like they each drove it for 2 hours and didn't set everything correctly. Wipers are automatic and work great, turn that setting on. Voice commands work for several settings. Mirrors don't need to be adjusted while driving, pointless criticism, set them to the profile for yourself and you are done. Seemed like they went out with the nice things for the first few minutes then planned on what to try to bash for 2/3 of the middle of the video. Only criticism I agreed with was the FSD - it's not FSD and years off of that, a beta system that you train if you buy it so marketed poorly. I did not go with that on my Model Y.

[@henrywinokur979]

It's not a "gas" pedal, guys...it's an "accelerator" pedal. You shouldn't be using fossil-fuel terminology as it applies to a NON-fossil-fuel vehicle! :)

[@Antenox]

The whole “tug on the stalk to keep driving forward at the stoplight” thing is a way of crowdsourcing machine learning training feedback.

[@davidm5707]

I have no interest in driving a computer. Or a cellphone.

[@joshuarosen465]

@@davidm5707 Then a Tesla is not for you. It is a smartphone with wheels that's why Tesla owners love them. Software controls the whole car which is why they can give you an update with new features every couple of weeks. It's also why you can get features that aren't quite baked which let's you experience them early. As they get feedback from their drivers they continually improve them, something no other auto company can do. The stop light feature is an example. Earlier this year they rolled out a preview which was visualization only, it didn't stop the car all it did was display the lights and signs. If it missed something or made a mistake you could tell them by pressing the speech recognition button and saying Bug Report and telling them what was wrong, that report along with camera footage is fed back to their machine learning systems which allowed them to further tune the system. The next step was unconditional stopping at lights, by always stopping they were making sure that no one got killed if the car got it wrong. After a month of that they moved to the next step which is going if it's following another car. After a few months of that they will be able to roll out the complete feature. The key is that they have nearly a million cars on the road which are providing them with real world data that is used to refine the system. Another example is voice commands, when I got my 3 a year ago it barely understood any commands, now almost every setting and function can be controlled by voice, just like your phone. Everything is opt in so you aren't forced to be a beta tester but most owners love getting the latest and greatest and they are happy to be part of the process of improving the system.

[@ram-ck7ti]

You can actually drive the car while looking at the touch screen. The screen shows you what's ahead of your, beside you and behind you and the lines on the road so that you can steer the car by staying between the lines. For a gamer, this approach is so similar to a video game that they are completely comfortable with it. Keep in mind that cars with the standard speedometer require that you look down (away from the road) between the steering column to see your speed or nav info or perhaps media settings. Similarly, in the Model 3/Y, you glance to the right to see if someone is in your blind spot before executing the lane change and if in AP the car will not change lanes if there is someone in your blind spot. When I hear the word RELIABILITY I think of a car that starts and runs everyday. That gets me from point A to point B reliably. That is a perfect description of my 2015 Tesla Model S 70D I do NOT think of fit and finish as something that effects reliability.

[@Arpedk]

We have had our Model 3 for 7 months now. I have selected the mirrors, steering wheel, ventilation etc... 1 time and never ever touched it since! Why would I have a button for thing I am only doing once?

[@keithwalls6316]

Agree 100% on lack of a instrument cluster. I would not buy a car without one. I also don't like the mandatory glass roof. I understand it gives a few extra inches of headroom, but a standard roof option would be nice.

[@youaskforit]

My take on why Tesla put all controls in the screen, and not add other buttons elsewhere is to control everything with software, get analytics what settings people prefer, or in case of accident, they can figure out through the saved logs and configurations, You can’t do that with analog buttons.

[@archigoel]

"Training driver to look down"...yes, that's what Tesla is doing, and IMO..that's the right approach. Tesla now shows side view mirror on central screen. With its new AP re-write, its object detection will be greatly enhanced. So in future, you have to just look at center, not right and left.

[@Lyonel99]

Try the voice commands.

[@ctuna2011]

You can buy a Fob for 150 . Those cards are very useful for water sports.

[@Scripticus]

Finally, the Tesla Prius is for sale!!

[@ronal0508]

Guys CR: I like and respect your analysis and opinion, but some of your negative comments are style, and you become annoyin insisting with fitures that not fit your preference...

[@gtiguy9629]

It’s the “beta” just a legal term Tesla users to protect itself from potential lawsuits? Also is there a law or rule that says how long an automaker can use the term “beta “for its features it makes us pay for?

[@cw1926]

Do these guys own a model Y? The a/c vents are one of my absolute fav things. Couldn’t be any simpler to use. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@rtperrett]

Why are there no raise up-ed sedans? We have low hatchbacks (budget sub compact) (compact) and high hatchbacks (budget sub compact crossovers, sub compact suvs, compact suv, mid size suv, full size suv, and somehow wagons are in this mixed somewhere. They could even make a hatchback look like a sedan, but is a hatchback for those that don’t like hatches.

[@richwhite5738]

The updates and changes with software downloads are expected as the software continues to evolve. I’m curious if CR compares the number of miles driven by Tesla drivers and number of accidents per mile verses drivers of standard cars. That may provide more quantifiable proof whether these updates are safer or more dangerous rather than personal speculation. My previous cars, BMW, Lexus an Acura unfortunately did not change in 5 years of ownership. I chose Tesla because of changes (hopefully better with new features like sentry cam, traffic light monitoring improvements etc) over time.. btw updates are optional , you have to approve the update.

[@barlobarlo303]

The driver is providing the training data to the neural network, by the driver pressing on the accelerator to go thru the green light. The network learns the conditions that are necessary to proceed safely thru the green light or yellow light. The magic is that "we" pay lots of money to provide Tesla NN training data; they in turn provide us with improvements thru updates. Brilliant! Imagine if Tesla had to generate this data themselves.

[@richardblais5232]

No we don't want to "re-clutter" the dash with buttons and gauges ... Teslas are mobility devices so let's keep 'em that way ... getting rid of all those buttons and manual gizmoes is how they kept the price down

[@shaunmwoolley]

I’m so tired of hearing people complain that there aren’t physical buttons for certain things. You are showing your age. The car is designed for the future to be autonomous. At some point there won’t be any speed reading because you’ll, well at least I will be watching a movie on Netflix while my car takes me to my destination. Regardless of FSD, motorizing the rear view mirror adds cost and it is an item that will not be needed when the car is doing the driving. And why do you need physical buttons to adjust your side mirrors or steering wheel? Once they are set... THEY ARE SET! The digital AC controls are brilliant. Being electronically controlled means they can be programmed and possibly in the future can follow the occupants in the front seats with the internal camera. What Tesla has done with this minimalist & simple design is future proof the design via over the air software updates not to mention cut costs especially keeping the interior the same between the 3 and Y. I don’t get why people don’t understand this stuff. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@michaellopez6830]

I hear what they are saying and it makes a lot of sense. I shouldnt' have to go into the menu to open the glove box. Mirrors and adjusting the steering wheel is reaching. But things you interact with a lot could use a button or slider. All those things are in the Model S. What they are missing is if tesla were to make these changes to the 3 and Y, then they would be so much more expensive. Tesla's tech, batteries, motors are ahead of everyone else. You can't offer all of these things while making the traditional interior and hitting range etc..... Look at the Mercedes SUV, it looks just like the gas version. 100%, but does it go further? is it faster? is it cheaper? You can't build these things, buy the truck load, while hitting prices, range, charging speed etc etc etc all while getting knobs, buttons, heavy quality wood and materials. It's like dude you got to give something up. You want 500 miles of range right now? then we can't put a grill and air vents lol. I'm rambling but I hope it makes sense.

[@MikeBrokenArrow]

And you shouldn't go through the menus. All we need to do is to say a voice command...

[@michaellopez6830]

@@MikeBrokenArrow True, but sometimes voice commands aren't always spot on. You also have to think of people who have speech impediments or who have thick unbelievable accents lol. A button would save their life lol. Having a customization Live tile'ish menu would be very useful during those moments. I think that would make lots of people even happier and transition even faster since it'll be like messing around with your phone. Or using your own voice you say the command and select the function, this way the car knows when you say Kinfield wipers you actually mean windshield wipers lol.

[@ElijahsAba]

Are you saying that the electrically set air vent positions are NOT stored in the user profiles?!