Contain Messy Waterstones With This One Simple Trick (Sharpening Tray)

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The Wood Knight

The Wood Knight

Күн бұрын

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@WoodenItBeGrand
@WoodenItBeGrand 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea Paul! Getting some extra formply when I do my table saw extension so I'll have to use the leftovers for this. Perfect!!!
@jeffhicks8428
@jeffhicks8428 Жыл бұрын
This is basically the main reason I primarily use Splash and Go stones. If you want a splash and go stone which has all the vibes of a true waterstone, I'd suggest the Naniwa Professional/Chosera stones. The only issue there is they are expensive and potentially not as super low maintenance as other SNG stones. These things are friable but in a highly controlled manner so they stay flat extremely well, and only shed grit if you really want them to. Yet they can still quickly sharpen even modern stainless and tool steels just as well as a soft waterstone. If you want something that's super premium but even easier to use with the lowest maintenance and literally no mess or fuss, I'd go for shapton glass. These are considerably cheaper than the Naniwa Pro up front but you only get 5 mm of abrasive vs anywhere from 15-30 mm depending on which version of the naniwa you get. Honestly Rob cosmans method seems like the way to go for plane tools. Use a high quality diamond plate to do the cutting, then something like a shapton glass to finish it. 1k plate and a 16k shapton glass. Easy peasy. If you used to using something messy like a Cerax, man you're in for a treat when you switch to shapton. Just know what grits you need. If you need something to really cut steel you need the 500 grit. The finish a 500 grit shapton glass leaves is more like idk, 1000+ for a cerax. The 6k cerax leaves a finish like a 2k shapton at best. Make sure you know what kind of stone you're getting. Course, sharpening or finishing. Grit ratings fall within that framework and can be very arbitrary.
@FixitFingers
@FixitFingers 3 жыл бұрын
Like it Paul, and now I have an actual workbench this will definitely be stolen once I get around to upgrading my chisels to a proper set and the honing guide :D
@TheWoodKnight
@TheWoodKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't you get a honing guide ages ago?
@FixitFingers
@FixitFingers 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWoodKnight no, I was ready to pull the trigger on a new chisel set and guide but restrained myself. In time!
@philclennell
@philclennell Жыл бұрын
Nice project, however these stations with square corners are a bugger to clean out if you like to tidy up as you go. If not, fine, let the crud accumulate. I prefer the 2 front and back stops method so there are no corners to wipe out. Just personal preference I guess.
@vixyman
@vixyman 3 жыл бұрын
Smooth into transition!
@michael.knight
@michael.knight 2 жыл бұрын
What is the diamond stone with handle that you're using? That handle looks very convenient.
@GlassonDesignStudio
@GlassonDesignStudio 3 жыл бұрын
I like that trowel. Where did you get it from?
@TheTexan83
@TheTexan83 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite middle aged aussie woodworker. 😉
@FixitFingers
@FixitFingers 3 жыл бұрын
He's actually 64... the camera is very kind 🤣
@TheWoodKnight
@TheWoodKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Jokes on you, that was Paul from approximately three lifetimes ago before 4 lockdowns. Not middle aged at all! :D
@MarkusHamm-l4l
@MarkusHamm-l4l 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, nice video. What kind of Waterstones do you use in your video and where you bought it? Thank you
@jeffhicks8428
@jeffhicks8428 Жыл бұрын
That's a 1k/6k Suehiro Cerax combo stone and the other one is an 8k King stone. These are both soft and messy soaking waterstones. I honestly don't suggest most people get either one of these. Get a 500, 2k and 16k shapton glass. Or just get a 1k diamond plate and the 16k glass. Or if you want to be fancy get a whole set of Choseras or nanohones for $800. The real point is, go with modern splash and go stones. It's just better than these old school soft friable messy inconvenient soaking waterstones. Unless you have some specific reason for it. I have full sets of both of Shapton and the Naniwa. At most you only need 3-4 stones from any line MAX. Most people need just 2. 3 will cover all bases. 4 is all you'd ever NEED for anything. One course stone, one sharpening stone, one finishing stone. You can throw in a transitional/deburring stone if you want. That's 4. For the naniwa for example, pick one: 400/600 + 800/1k/2k + 5k/10k and if you want, you can add the 3k as a transitional/deburring/fine sharpening stone. 600+2k+10k or 400+1k+5k or even 800+3k are all common combos people do, with that last one being a common thing folks suggest for Japanese kitchen knives. Each stone has it's own personality. The 500 + 2k + 16k shapton glass is what I'd suggest to 99% of people. Can be had under $200. Covers all bases other than straight razor finishing. If you want a razor finisher get a 12k naniwa super stone.
@darthschumy
@darthschumy 2 жыл бұрын
A good simple idea, but what I'm about to suggest instead will suck for you. I've have however, seen much more extravagant versions of what you've done on KZbin, so what I'm about to suggest will suck for them even more. The following advice was shown/suggested to me, by my dog. Yes, my pet dog! He understands the concept of making a mess at dinner time. I took his advice and bought a silicon dog bowl mat. It's non slip, has a small lip to stop water/slurry running off, doesn't get in the way when sharpening from the sides, very easy to clean, folds away compactly and won't decay/warp through absorbing moisture Being extremely cheap, it's available at pet stores, department stores, possibly $2 stores, supermarkets and of all places Carbetec. Actually any tool store that sells Tormek will probably offer it as well ("Tormek Rubber Work Mat"), although Tormek will charge you literally ten times as much and they'll forget to mention it also doubles as a dog bowl mat. Edit: there is one drawback to this advice though - your dog will end up on your bench frequently, thinking it's dinner time!
@musicbymark
@musicbymark 3 жыл бұрын
Originally from Frank Klausz, Hungarian American master cabinet maker. He uses solid wood pine w/ sliding tapered dovetails, that swell water tight. He pounds wire along bottom perimeter, planes away wood till the wire's dent is invisible. Since the wood was compressed along the perimeter, after screwing the edges of all four sides, once water hits the narrow (mostly invisible, since planed flat) line of compressed wood around the perimeter, memory in wood swells, creating a water tight "gasket".
@musicbymark
@musicbymark 3 жыл бұрын
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@maxmax4081
@maxmax4081 3 жыл бұрын
nice project, form ply is good stuff. What are you using to flatten your stones?
@TheWoodKnight
@TheWoodKnight 3 жыл бұрын
It's a 400grit atoma diamond "trowel" ("atoma diamond handle 400 grit" is the most common result from retailers, I forget where I got it now!). There is also a 140grit version, but I felt that was a little *too* coarse for my use. I've found the handle is *perfect* for what I wanted - super easy to flatten stones, and if I need to use it for some heavy grinding, I can flip it and grab it in my bench vice!
@maxmax4081
@maxmax4081 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWoodKnight thanks
@halsti99
@halsti99 3 жыл бұрын
whats the flattening thingy called? ive only ever seen other big stones, that you'd rub the whetstone on. that looks quite nice to use.
@TheWoodKnight
@TheWoodKnight 3 жыл бұрын
It's a 400grit atoma diamond "trowel" ("atoma diamond handle 400 grit" is the most common result from retailers, I forget where I got it now!). There is also a 140grit version, but I felt that was a little too coarse for my use. You can still rub the waterstones on it, but its easier to just grab the diamond stones handle and flatten that way. Much less messy too as the slurry doesn't go flying!
@halsti99
@halsti99 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWoodKnight neat. Thank you
@markscheiner3952
@markscheiner3952 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWoodKnight did you fix the handle on yourself or buy it like that. I'd think the handle would be a really nice addition.
@Pete.G
@Pete.G 3 жыл бұрын
@@markscheiner3952 they have two versions, I have the non handled one and it works well but I will admit the handle would make it even more nicerer
@TheWoodKnight
@TheWoodKnight 3 жыл бұрын
@@markscheiner3952 This particular version comes with the handle (fixed/non-removable). Atoma also have unhandled versions too, price difference wasn't massive for the handle
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