CONTAX Zeiss lenses | Why I decided to buy a set of Vintage Prime lenses for my BMPCC 6K

Here is a video about my vintage Contax Zeiss lenses and why I decided to get this set.
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In this video I go over the kit that I own, Why I decided to get the Contax Zeiss specifically, the pros and cons of vintages lenses, how do they compare to the Canon FD and wether or not I would recommended these.
Out of the all the lenses I shoot with and own these are the ones most special to me and the one that I enjoy using the most as well.
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[@OfTwoLands]

Here is a video about my vintage Contax Zeiss set . What lenses do you guys use and do you shoot with vintage ones? Cheers, Flo

[@anttiheik]

I have a set of 10 Pre-Ai Nikkor lenses from late 60’s and early 70’s that I use with both my film cameras and my BMPCC4K. I love how the single coated old glass flares compared to modern lenses or even AI-S Nikkors. They also have a really long focus throw compared to for example newer Nikkors or Canon new FD’s. The Contaxes are on my list to try though!

[@Pla2es]

Congratulations for your amazing content! In my short experience with the old Bmpcc I use Nikkor AF and AIS glass with a Viltrox Speedbooster. But I find purple fringing in the flares annoying, and I they are too cold with skin tones. Same with a Rollei Planar 50mm F1.8 and a Hasselblad 80mm f2.8 I tested, too cold with the eye's bags. I prefer Minolta Rokkor glass for colour reproduction, more neutral. This summer I was lucky, and found a bargain set of Leica R (28,35,50,90,135 and 180mm) and they do shine in skin tones creaminess! The problem is to find a 19mm to complete the set below 1000 EUR. 😌

[@anttiheik]

@@Pla2es Damn, that’s quite a setup 😧

[@Pla2es]

@@anttiheik Once in a lifetime deals. I found it 40 minutes drive from my hometown (Spain's north coast), just after seeing Matteo Berltolli's video on Leica R glass: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGPLdGtmm9uSY7s

[@anttiheik]

@@Pla2es You lucky dog. Enjoy them!

[@local130]

I love how you present these using your past work. This gives us additional BTS to those works. Thank you!

[@OfTwoLands]

Glad you do, thank you :) !!

[@Danie1C]

After watching your Letter Press doc, I wanted to message you for more info on these lenses, I was literary trying to figure out how to do that and I got a notification for this video 😆 many thanks.

[@OfTwoLands]

Haha no worries !! Hope you like the video :).

[@trevorwarner6196]

I have adapted my Contax Zeiss lenses to my two Sony bodies with readily available adapters with very satisfactory results, and out perform my Nikon glass (my opinion) I have the 28 f2.8distagon,50f1.4, planar the 60f2.8 macro planar and the 200f3.5 tele tessar, they go back to the mid '80s. A lways a pleasure to use.

[@cyphermote6857]

I've watched a few of your videos (maybe original BMPCC days) and noted a general preference for a particular colour cast (light magenta?) which I chalked down to your grading. I skimmed through one of your recent Antarctica videos to re-check and can see the grade there as well (neutralized by the cooler light a bit) . The Zeiss glass organically leans towards a warmer look so there is a possibility of compounding the warm effect.... but you appear not to have compensated. Again, preference, but your sunsets seem affected by the compounding the most... appears a bit contrived. However, love your work and dedication... and for showcasing Sydney. Keep up the good stuff ! Thanks

[@my2cents198]

My Fav channel, you need to do pro voice overs....so smooth....alway love each and every vid you put out...great content....keep it up mate.

[@OfTwoLands]

Haha thanks so much :) !!

[@GriffinConway]

Great video Flo! Thanks for sharing. The lenses look great. Been thinking of picking up a set of vintage lenses myself.

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks for watching man !! Would you go Contax or Leica or FD haha ?

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Start with Russian trinity!Functional, cheap and loaded with character ;)

[@Skopefilms]

A dream kit, thanks for these useful advice!

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks for watching :) !!

[@FotodioxInc]

Nice vid! Thanks for mentioning our adapter!

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks guys !! No worries, works really well :).

[@m.i.andersen8167]

Thanks for another great video. Look forward to the 2,8/35mm Distagon. That's my favorite 35mm. It makes such beautiful pictures. The Sonnar 135mm is pretty sharp and got the lovely Sonnar bokeh (and works perfectly with the Mutar 2 - 2x teleconverter which is often possible to buy at a favourable price -if something really long is needed :).

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks !! I think I will get the 35mm at some point too :). 135mm not too sure as I don't use the 85 as much as I thought either.

[@mazurindependentfilmmaking2713]

I use CZ rollei lenses and found rendering of tele-tessar 135 f4 is much better compared to 135 2.8 sonnar. Just feeling - f4 is more "3dish" and "deeper".

[@NashvilleAcademyRock]

Thanks so much for the video! Your work is really evocative and beautiful; I look forward to seeing more of it. May I ask if you did any other mods to your Contax primes or purchased anything else to help you shoot with them (other than the adapters)? I've bought the 35/2.8 as my first vintage lens - no plans to de-click or add follow focus yet. Thanks again.

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks a lot for the kind feedback :) !! And no, just the adapters and the filter thread for the 18mm.

[@jimjimskimmer1935]

I bought a 135,2.8 this week, tested it out yesterday. As someone who has owned the Nikon and Canon FD version. The zeiss beats them both hands down. I am looking to complete the set. CARL ZEISS FOREVER!

[@magnat7]

Dude those color on that b-roll!!! I'm loving my contax zeiss kit, and I have the same amount off money invested, but only have 3 lenses ( 35mm,50mm 85mm 1.4)

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks :) !! Which one do you use the most ?

[@magnat7]

@@OfTwoLands With my camera, crop sensor, used the 35mm more times. The 85mm is the lenses that I use less times, but I bought the lenses with FF sensor in mind, will made the switch soon.

[@zoltanbereczki3273]

Wow, Inlove the look they produce. Would love to get one for my a7s3

[@OfTwoLands]

Such good lenses !!

[@jonahkoplin124]

Solo was shot on Arri's prime DNA lenses. The super speeds were paired with the Alexa Mini for a couple of shots here and there, but they were not the main lenses used in the film.

[@OfTwoLands]

Never said they were the main lenses :).

[@SmolikDavidColor]

Since I really wanted to avoid using speedboosters on my Pocket 4K, I went with the 0.95 Voigtlanders. They are, in my opinion, the most cinematic glass you can get from this new era of lenses, on any Blackmagic camera. Currently I own the 10.5mm, 17.5mm and 42.5mm and actually have no need now to get any more. To me, this set with BMPCC4K is the best what I could have now, and in the future.

[@OfTwoLands]

I believe you for sure, I almost got the 17.5mm years ago for the OG pocket, such a beautiful lens !!

[@mazurindependentfilmmaking2713]

FF lenses are far more future proof thats why im afraid to invest m43. I think fast nikkors and minotas are quite cinematic boosted.

[@ibancorominas3446]

@@mazurindependentfilmmaking2713 Totally agree, now these days the sensors are getting bigger and bigger and yes Minoltas, Nikons and Carl Zeiss Jena are just amazing, I love the colours on the Carl Zeiss Jena, warm and saturated.

[@goonytunes4119]

Building my set of Contax Zeiss for my 4k as well. So far I have only the 50mm 1.4 but I love the look

[@OfTwoLands]

Awesome !! Have fun hunting :)

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Get the 28mm F2 as second lens, but it's rare..keep saving the money for it 😁

[@goonytunes4119]

@@LucaBono.Studio that's next on the list 👀

[@Sjdaviesfilm]

Hey! Ive just bought my 18mm f4 and cant wait to use it! What is the mm of the thread at the front? i want to add a step up ring to 77 inner thread with an 80 OD. Which one should i be searching for?

[@WillvonTagen]

It isn’t quite fair if the FDs you are comparing are the bottom line sets (24 f/2.8 and 50 f/1.8). If someone does want to go the FD Route they should definitely seek out the middle line (24/28/35 f/2.0; 50 f/1.4 etc.) as they have a much better build. However the Zeiss are outstanding-I used them on my first feature with a Red Epic-MX and loved the look. Great video! Thanks :)

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks for watching !! I agree with what you're saying, but these were the ones I had filmed with so wanted with something I knew. I do have the 50 1.4 now :).

[@LucaBono.Studio]

The problem on the Canon FD lenses is the blue...the sky is always washed out. For the rest they're lovely lenses!

[@13StopsPocketFilms]

Great coverage. Thank you.

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks for watching !! :)

[@juancarlosg.zuniga1410]

I use FD´s on m bmpcc4k and my new 24mm f2.8 is on its way home :D love the look of this lenses too! the 18mm was my favorite!

[@OfTwoLands]

They’re great for sure !! 18mm is always lovely :).

[@LucaBono.Studio]

The 24mm is a beautiful lens...but I sold it. Never sell it, you'll regret it.

[@juancarlosg.zuniga1410]

@@LucaBono.Studio omg! Sad to hear that. Well thanks for the tip, I'm still waiting for it and the hype is getting bigger and bigger!

[@LucaBono.Studio]

@@juancarlosg.zuniga1410 ahaha I can imagine! 24+50+70-200 and you'll be set!

[@juancarlosg.zuniga1410]

@@LucaBono.Studio well already have the 35-105 and the 70-210. That´s why I needed something wider! And i´m still debating between the FD 50mm or the Helios 58mm :)

[@ruff1draft]

Absolutely brilliant video

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks a lot !!

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Nice video and set of lenses! You should consider to add the 85mm F2.8 and 80-200 F4...they are beautiful!

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks !! I’m sure they are, maybe in the future :).

[@LucaBono.Studio]

@@OfTwoLands the time is the only problem of these lenses... they're getting more difficult to find at decent price 🤔

[@jbaldwinLIFE]

I purchased Fotodiox's Standard adapter (not the pro) and it didn't fit. Do I need to buy the Pro version or the K&F for it to fit? Also do you prefer one over the other? Thanks so much. Amazing video!!

[@heartshapedfilms]

After watching this I am unsure if Ziess is the way I'd want to go. I love everything except for me if like to lean more into to flare and other imperfections that come with vintage glass. The FD lenses may be an option though I think the Nikon's may be my middle ground. As they tend to be of good construction and have a good focus throw.

[@GregoryRoyar]

I have the 18/4, 21/2.8, 28/2.0, 35/1.4, 50/1.4, 85/1.4 all cinemoded. Contax Zeiss are great.

[@OfTwoLands]

Nice !! How superior is the 21 comparing to the 18 and why did you decide to keep both ?

[@GregoryRoyar]

@@OfTwoLands Its great. The 18 is nice when you need slightly wider on a super35 cam, but when adding to a FF camera that has IBIS, you start to see vignetting with an 80mm front on the lens.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Is the field of illumination that better on the 28mm F2 compared to the f2.8? I'm thinking to replace my f2.8 lens...

[@gwm-btdbattlesagar.ioandmo9988]

Love my Canon fd 50mm f 1.4 and Pentax 28mm f3.5

[@OfTwoLands]

Awesome lenses :) !!

[@rayyancr]

Hey, that's a solid vintage set you got there. I was wondering for the mod part, do you change the lens aperture during your filming ? If you do, how do you maintain the same exposure during filming? I was wondering, is it really worth to declick the aperture?

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks !! I actually don't unless I absolutely have too (documentary work). In my opinion it isn't worth is to declick but it really depends of the work you do.

[@michaelgarsin1842]

H, thank you for this was incredibly helpful. i got myself a set and loving them! Do you use them with a matte box and nd's. Struggling to find out which ones to get to various various sizes. Thank you!

[@OfTwoLands]

No worries, thank you for watching !! I sometimes do yes, especially NDs. I've changed all my front rings to 77mm so I can use my NDs I normally use with other lenses.

[@sydostendorf5979]

How do you like the 85mm 2.8? Have you ever wished that you had the 1.4? I’m debating between the two. Do you find that the 85 Sonar and the 50 planar have a different look?

[@OKAYFILMS]

Hi, After watching your review I recently got contax zeiss 50mm f1.7 what i noticed is its filter thread is mentioned 55mm diameter on various websites. When I put a 55mm to 77mm step-up ring to use filters it doesn't fit (Small). I also tried 58mm to 77mm which is slightly bigger. Can you help me with the exact diameter of filter thread as you have installed it already? Where can I buy these steup rings you are using? Thank you

[@vladimirsoic4429]

If you didn't already get the primes I'd tell you to get CZ 35-70 3.4. Primes in one lens they say. Little slow on the aperture though but great CZ lens.

[@OfTwoLands]

Yeah I heard so many good things about that zoom !!

[@LucaBono.Studio]

How's the bokeh in the corners? Is it suffering from heavy vignetting?

[@vladimirsoic4429]

@@LucaBono.Studio I never really tested the lens for that exactly but I never noticed too heavy vignetting. I can do some test on both things and let you know.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

@@vladimirsoic4429 it will be amazing if you can do it! Thanks mate!

[@raees7413]

How much colour correction do you do in your videos? Do you just use luts or is it custom? All your videos look fantastic.

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks a lot !! All custom, I don't use LUTS. For the reviews it is pretty basic, just using FCPX and tweak curves and saturation mostly. For proper work I use both filmconvert and FCPX.

[@PALALALALALALA]

Alors monsieur... en terme de look, Contax vs Leica R vs Meike / DZO ;) ? 2ans plus tard, tu en penses quoi de tes Contax ? Merci pour ces vidéos !

[@neilpiper9889]

Lenses built by Yashica with approval of Contax. I have a Yashica fxd quartz with a 50mm f2 ml lens. £30. Ml means multilayer coated. I shoot film with this camera and lens. For digital/video I use vintage Nikon lenses and a Soviet Helios 44-2 58mm F2 with an adapter. Lovely swirly bokeh.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Naaa the coating is different...

[@jd5787]

Have you considered mamiya sekor c m645?

[@mykilldarcshyne3554]

HEllo.. I’ve recently learned about adapters for vintage lenses and ordered a few,, I’ve been told that ones with Kiev mounts are hard to find adapters for.. . I just ordered one with with contax/kiev mount due to it being so cheap I figured it was worth the risk. ..I believe I’ll need a contax/Kiev to m4/3s adapter? (I have black magic 4k).. any advice would be great thanks…there seems to be a lot of adapters available for it so I don’t know why some people say it’s hard to find or fit..

[@madebyams]

I love these lenses! x

[@OfTwoLands]

Yeah me too, they're really special :) !! xx

[@LucaBono.Studio]

The problem is that everyone love them ahahah, they're difficult to find!

[@Loftikaz]

Got my first vintage lens thanks to you, it was 25mm f2.8 mmj from Japan, I'm using an ebay adapter for now till I get to put either leitax or simmod for a stronger mount. if anyone is considering buying note there's extra import fees to pay (about 20% the cost), in case you need to return you can't have those refunded easily. On the Viltrox to EF they fit perfectly, on Metabones Ultra they cause a slight scratch to the velvet side inside, on both speedboosters I had to adjust them to get infinity focus "by rotating the inner glass". but I guess if use them on native EF camera you won't have this issue. I learned so much already in just a week, this kinda added motivation to go out and shoot in these depressing lockdown times. Thanks :)

[@teo.marinakis]

Thank you for the video! Was wondering what is the crop factor when used with the bmpcc 6k? Thanks!

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks for watching!! With the 6K it depends on the resolution and codec you shoot at, but mostly it's around x1.55 - 1.6 :)

[@nitablackwood6301]

I will own these one day. Probably the 28mm first since it's the most affordable

[@OfTwoLands]

If you only get one for a while then the 28mm is probably the best to have :).

[@aidanrogers1087]

Hello! Lovely. Are these CY mount or MMj ? any reason why?

[@guillaumedelormeraie]

I'm buying these lenses too (I have the 28-f/2.8, but I need to adapt it to EF and I have these annoying pieces of metal that can break my speedbooster so I can't really test it for now), partially because of you! Please stop making their price rise 😀

[@OfTwoLands]

Glad to hear !! Haha sorry about that :).

[@guillaumedelormeraie]

BTW since you're now in France, there is a French company that make the cine-mod, in case you're interested: www.precisious.fr/fr/ I have not worked with them yet, but it looks interesting.

[@YounusYousuf]

would like to know how do you shoot stabilized footage without gimbal using these vintage lenses on bmpcc 6k

[@OfTwoLands]

Steady hands haha !! Or tripod/gimbal when needed. Mostly handheld though :).

[@davetinoco]

STEADY ASS HANDS

[@lievencorthouts]

Hey Flo, thanks for the video's. Was looking into the Contax Zeiss or the Leica R. The Leica R is more expensive than the Contax Zeiss glass but seems to have a bit more character. Did you considered the Leica's?

[@OfTwoLands]

Hey, thanks for watching !! I did consider them but they were too pricey and harder to find. It does seem that they do have more character though.

[@lievencorthouts]

@@OfTwoLands Thanks! Probably good for documentaries. If you can be consistent, otherwise it's a bit all over the place. I filmed with a documentary with Zeiss CP2 lens. Think the Contax Zeiss will be a bit the same. The Contax Zeiss will be easier to match.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

The Leica R have strong flares while the Contax Zeiss lenses are controlling them better...it depends from the DoP what's ideal.

[@oceansidesounddesign8770]

One of the best videos on these beautiful lenses. Well done man on the pros/cons + alternatives. Currently building a Canon nFD set. My biggest hesitation in the Zeiss is the CA. Curious why the 85/2.8 vs 85/1.4 guessing size?

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks so much !! There is a bit of CA yes, unfortunately. I wanted all lenses to have the same size so I went for the 2.8 :)

[@simo.benziane]

A question for the Algorithm. Du you use diffusion filters like a 1/8 black promist?

[@OfTwoLands]

Haha !! I don’t with these lenses, I sometimes do for projects shot on my canons or Sigmas.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

I do, the images are more organic with it...but it provides alterations to the flares

[@iamseva]

Do you have some rotation between the lens and body when using an adapter and pulling focus? How do you deal with it? Does the Leitax mount have the same rotation on the camera mount issues?

[@OfTwoLands]

The Leitax is rock solid like standard EF. With the adapters I used to have an issue with my first 18mm because the focus ring was too stiff. Now it's all good :). I get the occasional wobble but it's super minimal.

[@RiseHigh]

Hi, thanks a lot for this video, i will dig a bit in that direction. Have you been able to compare them with some Leica R lenses ? I think the Contax Zeiss are a good balance between FD and Leica R..

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks for watching !! I haven't had the chance to compare with the Leica unfortunately but I knew from the start that I couldn't really afford them anyway haha. And I agree, the Contax sit perfectly between the FD and R.

[@m.i.andersen8167]

The Leica R lens has a very smooth look which makes everything look nicer, and is very sharp, I got the 28mm Elmarit -which means F:2,8 and the 50mm and 90mm Summicron -which means F:2 -Two and Three-cam (means year). But I Use my Zeiss C/Y lenses much more. They make a more bluntly look. Especial the Planar and Distagons got a very fine 3D rendering -(called "the Zeis pop"), The Sonnars on the other hand got very fine shades, if not up-sharpned to much, which gives a pronounced plasticity -very good for faces. Both the Leica and Zeiss got beautiful rich colors. For me it looks like the Canon FDs have less contrast and a more flat look and not as clean saturated colors (I sold mine).

[@danielhanslik4112]

@@OfTwoLands Can you mount Canon FD on Canon EF mount? I thought their flange distance is too short?

[@NoahsNostalgia]

I have a set of Canon FDs and I absolutely love them! These looks great too. Did you buy them as a set or individually?

[@OfTwoLands]

Yeah I love the FDs too :) !! I bought them individually.

[@lukifrieden1269]

What Adapter do you need to for the FD‘s on the Blackmagic?

[@NoahsNostalgia]

@@lukifrieden1269 I use a metabones mft to fd. highly recommend

[@lukifrieden1269]

@@NoahsNostalgia thank you!

[@henrikblomberg4793]

Didi You mension what focusing gear rings are You using? I have several Milvus lenses for video work and I like them with Zeiss own focusing rings. Btw. have You tried the Vario-Sonnar 100-300? I cannot rest until I try it..

[@OfTwoLands]

I use cheap ring I found on ebay, they work very well. And no, I haven't tried the 100-300, I generally do not shoot a lot of content past 100 unless it is doco work and in that case I use my Canon lenses.

[@hydriusthepanda3141]

Just bought a zeiss contax 50mm f1.7 after seeing this vid.. beats out any other nifty fifty by faaar

[@OfTwoLands]

They’re incredible lenses for sure !!

[@publictt4923]

Amazing bro 👏👏👏, please can you make same super colourful bmpcc 6k videos

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks !!

[@sergioam12]

They look incredible! I'd love to find good zeiss contax but I'm afraid of ebay since most of the lenses that are available there are in Japan and I'm in Venezuela so returning them might not be an option. I own many Canon FD but I cannot use them on my BMPCC6K because of the adapter, I have a Fotodiox FD to EF adapter but I cannot focus to infinity, which adapter do you use for your FD's?

[@OfTwoLands]

They are fun lenses for sure !! Most of lenses on ebay are in Japan and most of the time you can return them as well :). I use the K&F for my FDs, not perfect but they work.

[@sergioam12]

@@OfTwoLands Thanks! I´ll see if I buy the K&F Adapter for my FD lenses. I´ll try to go for one contax lens to see how ebay works that way! Thanks bro!

[@GreenbrookMedia]

Hi, could I ask how the focus ring on the 18mm compares to your other contax lenses? I've just received my 18mm but the focus ring feels loose compared to my 28mm and 85mm. Just weighing up if I need to send it off for a repair. Many thanks

[@OfTwoLands]

My first 18mm was so stiff I had to send it back. This one is the same as my other Contax. I think it depends on lens you get. Have you tried another one ?

[@phedacbiet]

When you "mod" these, are you still able to use them for still photography or does modding it sacrifice some things?

[@OfTwoLands]

You could yes, I just don't. I don't think there is a different in using them for stills or videos :).

[@YourMovieFix]

Have you found a way to use the tilta or small rig mini matte box with these lens?

[@OfTwoLands]

Yes, I have 77mm step up rings on all of them :). The only one you can't really use a MB is the 18mm since the front rotates.

[@YourMovieFix]

@@OfTwoLands thank you!

[@EllizonTorres]

If you could only take 2 of the lenses in this kit on a shoot. Which 2 would you take and why? Thanks! Just picked up the 28mm f2.8. Loving it!

[@OfTwoLands]

28mm for sure and probably 18 !! 28 for everything and 18 when 28 isn't wide enough :)

[@EllizonTorres]

@@OfTwoLands nice!! How often do you use the tighter Contax Zeiss lenses? As in the 50/85? I’m looking at them but not sure how much I would use them given I’m shooting on the P4K/P6K combo primarily

[@simo.benziane]

Another question. I see a lot of people declicking their aperture. I have Canon Fds on Sony A7iii. I never needed the aperture to be smooth. Do you find a need of decklicking it? other than changing the exposure when filming a continuous shot from dark to bright and vice versa?

[@OfTwoLands]

I actually talk about this in the video. I don't really feel the need to and I think it has its pros and cons. I kinda like to know exactly what aperture i'm on but it sure can be handy to quickly change on the go whilst recording.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Naaa you don't need to declick the canon FD...the adapter can control the blades of the lens.

[@ChrisHerath]

Beautiful lenses. Currently deciding between the 28mm 2.8 vs 2. Pretty big price difference. Have you ever wished you went with the 2 over the 2.8?

[@OfTwoLands]

They really are :). I love my 28mm 2.8 and never wished I had F2 honestly. I would rather invest in another focal length for example.

[@magiccarpetrider4594]

Depends how you use a 28. For me it’s up close, available light. F2 all day.

[@nikolaskaratzastv]

How do you avoid chromatic aberrations and what kind of nd filters are you using so you don't downgrade the quality of the glass. Thanks for the tips and the video

[@lucasvivante8988]

You can step down apperture. But a bit of chromatic aberration is totaly okay to the public eye. I've never seen anyone complaining about it, quite the contrary to be honest! I've heard from my girlfriend "oh i love when the color speels on the borders" For variable Nd, Nisi are pretty good and not too expensive.

[@sashamtg]

hello, amazing vid ! question : we are ok, it is impossible to adapt Canon FD lenses on the pocket 6K ? i know it is possible on the 4k, but i'm not sure for the 6k

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks !! I think you can with a few adapters and / or conversion kits but I’ve never used them on the 6K.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

You need to change the lens mount for EF cameras.

[@tigerareyouthere]

Are these the same lenses from the Contax G series? I only have 2 new digital lenses (from Fuji), other than that I only shoot vintage lenses on my analog cameras 🥰

[@OfTwoLands]

No, the standard Contax Zeiss :). I love Fuji lenses too.

[@paulpedersen180]

So is your adapter a speed booster? I'm trying to work out the effective focal range of the 28mm on the super 35.

[@OfTwoLands]

No, it is just a regular adapter. The crop is what you have your bmpcc set to so usually 1.5 or 1.6 :). The 28mm works out to be around 42-44mm.

[@ChuupawMIVERGA]

@@OfTwoLands What adapters are there for Contax Zeiss to BMPC 6K?

[@innstikk]

Did you try the 28mm Zeiss on the 4k or you got them after switching to 6k? Just wondering about the difference in crop factor if the 28mm would be too tight on the 4k?

[@OfTwoLands]

Only for the 6K. I have the Canon FDs for the 4K :).

[@innstikk]

@@OfTwoLands Thanks, when the weather gets better I'll experiment with my Sigma 18-35mm which focal length I use the most :-)

[@nathan-lewis]

Hey Flo! Love the content - I'm a photographer/filmmaker using the bmpcc4k (bought before the 6k was announced and have yet to switchover). I wanted to ask if there was a reason outside of cost that you went with the 2.8 lenses versus the 1.4 versions of some of these focal lengths? I have a full set of Sigma Art lenses (24-70 and 70-200 zooms and 24, 35, 50, 85 Primes), as well as a few Canon L lenses, but I'm wondering if I'm getting too caught up in the appeal of vintage lenses or if there really is a big benefit to some zeiss glass in my life. Thoughts?

[@OfTwoLands]

Hey, the main reason was the cost of course but also because the ones that I got (sometimes dubbed as the gimbal kit) are pretty much all the same size and weight which a huge advantage in some cases. Vintage lenses are great for certain projects. I only use mine for specific work or when I have the time to use them on set as well. I still use my canon and sigma zooms a lot especially for documentary work. In my opinion having vintage primes is great for commercial work, passion projects and also as investment.

[@nathan-lewis]

@@OfTwoLands Thanks so much! I just took the plunge and got my first lens! I went all out and got the Contax Zeiss 21mm 2.8 MMJ in mint condition. I know it is one of the hardest to find and I know it'll only get harder so I wanted to knock that one off my dream list first! I think I plan to follow your method to a degree of using vintage when the circumstances call for it, but have the option to use the sigma art when I need a more clean/professional and neutral look.

[@mazurindependentfilmmaking2713]

@@nathan-lewis Hello! Did you grab your set? Is it fast, are u happy with lens set compared to cleaner sigmas?

[@ekphotography]

I have several Carl Zeiss lenses, prestige Takumars too, but always seem to go to my zoom modern lenses for some reason. I know, maybe stupid, but most are paid projects and feel I may regret using the vintage lenses...🤷🏼 going to try and do some personal smaller projects to really “test” them.. I have the 25mm 2.8 Carl Zeiss.. My concern is what you mentioned about CA and as far as I know there is no plug-in for video that eliminates CA in video? For photos there is, but for video I do not know of a solution...?

[@OfTwoLands]

I completely understand, I use zoom lenses most of the time. More practical and less 'risky'. I do love owning this kit though and it feels so good to be shooting some projects on them. Always handy to have a set of primes too :).

[@ekphotography]

@@OfTwoLands yes in indeed, I always take them with me but end up “chickening” out... lol not to mention I have shakey hands and love my Canon 17-55 2.8 IS handheld...

[@LucaBono.Studio]

You can qualify the magenta of the CA in resolve and lover the saturation or change the HUE of them, it's easy to fix

[@Loftikaz]

Davinci resolve now offers CA fix in its effects

[@Adrilevy27]

Salut Flo! Je pars à la chasse pour un kit similaire et j’ai une question pour toi: est-ce facile de monter une mattbox sur ces optiques? J’ai vu que certaines zeiss vintage, le focus se fait par un système de « zoom » optique qui allonge l’objo. Merci!

[@OfTwoLands]

Hey !! Oui c'est facile il faut juste des step-up rings. Tous mes Contax ont un step-up 77mm comme ca je peux utiliser filtres ou Matte box. Seulement le 18mm 'tourne'. Apres c'est vrai qu'ils s'allongent un peu en focus mais avec une matte box légère comme la Tilta j'ai jamais eu de soucis. Cheers

[@Adrilevy27]

@@OfTwoLands merci Flo :) Mon banquier te déteste, après m’avoir convaincu de passer aux ND NiSi, maintenant ça 😂

[@libraproducciones]

Great video! I’m also building up my zeiss kit, and I wouldn’t like to ask you about the zeiss 18 f4. Do you use any variable nd’s? If so, of what kind? I read that you must step up this lens to 86mm... but in your video, the step up ring looks way smaller than 86mm, is that right? Any help regarding this will be much apreciated, as I’ve just broken my vnd, and I want to buy the new one future proof. Thanks!

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks !! I sometimes do use VND but usually I prefer more standard NDs. I bought a step down ring 86-77 and it works pretty well :). The VND I use is the Nisi 1.5-5 :).

[@libraproducciones]

@@OfTwoLands wow this is great news for me, thanks! I don’t want to bothered you too much but I would like to know your opinion on trading the Meike 12mm Cine Lens (Micro 4/3 mount) for theis Zeiss 18 f4 (I also have an XL Metabones Speedbooster for the Bmpcc 4K). As I think that you own (or used at least) both lenses, what do you think that they compare? Would it be a good move in your opinion?

[@libraproducciones]

Just a quick update to this thread, to make it visible for you just in case KZbin didn’t noticed you (it happens quite often to me). I would really love to hear your advise, as I give a lot of credit to your opinion, based on your great work man 🔥

[@cynl4893]

Could I use them on BMPCC 4K?

[@robertkwela8186]

Hi thanks for amazing video do you use any speed booster for bmpcc 6K with those lenses?

[@OfTwoLands]

Hi, I never do, I just use the regular adapters listed in the description :)

[@robertkwela8186]

@@OfTwoLands Hi Thanks for reply one more question if you don't mind on 18mm do you use step down ring to fit ND Filter if yes do you get any vignette I was thinking of getting 77mm NISI filter to fit all the lenses. only not sure if that would cause Vignetting on 18mm thanks BTW like your Channel some great stuff here

[@joaquinmunozserrano3624]

Hi, where di you get the follow rings for carl zeiss? thanks

[@OfTwoLands]

You mean the gearings ? Cheap ones on eBay for like $4 haha.

[@Loftikaz]

@@OfTwoLands what's the size of them please

[@ndamulelombuwe5891]

Is there any disadvantage of using adapters to convert these lenses to EF?

[@connorwagstaff2348]

Other than a bit of movement, it's no issue

[@scott_the_dreamer]

I bought the adapter on your link , but doesn't work with my speed booster for my pocket 4k. Any work arounds? It does work with my 6k

[@OfTwoLands]

No sorry, I haven't used it when Speedboosters, only with native mounts.

[@scott_the_dreamer]

@@OfTwoLands you don't use with your 4k?

[@hirobiikoma]

what is your focus ring and front adapter ring

[@OfTwoLands]

I bought both adapters and rings on Ebay :)

[@quiztasiarocks]

Hey Flo, what adapter are you using? I’m thinking of getting these with a simmod conversion.

[@OfTwoLands]

Hey, I like the Fotodiox Pro, they feel quite sturdy!

[@quiztasiarocks]

@@OfTwoLands can you focus to infinity ok?

[@Karzmusic12]

Great video man, how did you build the set up filter ring for the 18mm?

[@OfTwoLands]

Thanks man !! Just ordered an old Contax filter thread to snap on the end of the lens, and then used a step down ring (86-77 I think) in order to use regular 77mm filters. Not perfect but it does the job :).

[@Karzmusic12]

​@@OfTwoLands thank you man, I just ordered all four :-D I really like how organic they look... I will get in touch if I have any questions, if it's ok :-)

[@Karzmusic12]

@@OfTwoLands What kind of adapter do you use for the 18mm?

[@punkrachmaninoff]

Nothing beats the Pentax-M lenses for the price. The Olympus Zuiko aren't bad either.

[@OfTwoLands]

Why are the Pentax M better do you think ? The Zuiko aren’t vintage lenses though.

[@punkrachmaninoff]

@@OfTwoLands @Of Two Lands Oh, yeah the Olympus OM Zuiko series primes are definitely vintage and almost as good as their Leica equivalents. Much the same with Pentax-M; frankly Leica and Contax lovers just have too much money. I have tested over 150 lenses in the past 4 years (I resell film cameras locally)... The so-called premium brands aren't noticeably better, especially through the bottleneck of instagram. They don't justify the price when you can sell one and buy an entire set of primes from Olympus, Konica, Nikon, Canon, or Pentax. Both the Pentax-M 28/2.8 and 35/2.8 are very underrated lenses, if you shoot film the Pentax-M 40/2.8 pancake is without competition. Anyone who wants to disrespect Pentax glass obviously hasn't tried their M-Series on a mirrorless camera or film camera, nor have they tried their best glass (such as the Pentax-M 28mm 2.0 for example). The 28/2.0 is literally as good as any 28mm ever manufactured, I am lucky to have found one as they are quite rare. The Konica Minolta glass is also tremendously undervalued-- their 40/1.8 pancake almost never leaves my Fuji X-T3. Their final manual focus versions (the Konica AR series) can get excruciatingly expensive but some of them are readily available under $100 and are well worth the price. Konica made a 28mm 1.8 that sells for $1500-$2000 regularly; is it worth it? Not a chance.

[@mazurindependentfilmmaking2713]

@@punkrachmaninoff Hey! I got trapped with CZ rollei lenses 25 35 85 2.8 and 50 1.8. They are great, cant say anything but i need more DOF and more affordable wide one. Now i see Minolta MDs and Nikkors AIs are much more affordable - i can get fast set instead of slow zeiss`s. Which one can you recommend to get for all around work? I want to find best set for the price, no matter mordern or vintage.

[@cj64films]

I’ve been using the SMC Takumar 50mm F1.4 and the Helios 44-2 58mm F2 been researching and looking some wider options

[@OfTwoLands]

Was so close to get both of these lenses actually haha !! That Helios has so much character.

[@cj64films]

@@OfTwoLands You definitely should still look into them. I use the Takumar more because the focus ring is way easier to use and I love the image I’m getting. The Helios has some amazing swirly bokeh. This is actually a test scene I shot with the pocket 4K and the Takumar kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2rTqX6cpKZ4rK8

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Mir 20mm and 37mm are valid options for your Helios 44-2

[@josephcornelison6511]

As Luca said, the Mir 20 20mm and the Mir-1 37mm go along really well with the Helios 44-2. Those plus the Jupiter 9 85mm make a great set.

[@cj64films]

@@josephcornelison6511 I actually just got a rare 24mm SMC Takumar 3.5 to add to my collection

[@henryisapig]

Hi, I have a question~ When you use 77mm filters on the 18mm f4, is there any vignetting?

[@OfTwoLands]

Hey, no :).

[@henryisapig]

@@OfTwoLands That's great!

[@tijmenbrouwers]

Question about the adapters. I currently own the K&F concept EF one. There is quite a bit of play when I use that adapter in combination with the Metabones Speedbooster XL. Did you ever have problems with this? And is there a noticeable difference with the Fotodiox pro one? (Especially considering the amount of play). Thanks!

[@OfTwoLands]

There is a bit of play with the K&F (although I never use a Speedbooster). And yes the Fotodiox Pro are better in my opinion. They both work but the Fotodiox is slightly above in terms of quality :).

[@joaquinmunozserrano3624]

Same problem here

[@tijmenbrouwers]

@@joaquinmunozserrano3624 do you use it in combination with a speedbooster? Most of my contax lenses don't seem to be able to reach infinity when shooting wide open with this combination...

[@joaquinmunozserrano3624]

@@tijmenbrouwers I haven't paid attention to this honestly, sorry.

[@ludekaschenbrenner8025]

@@tijmenbrouwers Adapters are a problem. The flange focal distance is 45.5mm for the Canon EF and 44mm for the Yashica-Contax bayonet. The difference is only 1.5mm and that's a problem, it's too small a distance, it's a technical problem !!! I did not find a good C / Y adapter for EF on the market and therefore I adjusted the lens. Now I can sharpen infinity.

[@PhilippeOrlando]

On Ebay now the Zeiss that you show in this video are at the same price as new Meike cine lenses, more or less 50 bucks, so I'm wondering if those Zeiss are worth it now?

[@OfTwoLands]

The Zeiss are still worth it as they also cover full frames sensors :). And they have a specific look and feel to them so it depends what you need them for I guess.

[@PhilippeOrlando]

@@OfTwoLands They cover full frames sensors, I guess just this makes them worth it. I totally forgot that "detail".

[@PhilippeOrlando]

There aren't any right now on Ebay, certainly not that 28mm, unless I'm willing to get it from Japan, which I'm not. I'd rather have it shipped from the US

[@alexpuente6581]

Is there any 85 1.4 ? 2.8 it’s fine but for a really low light

[@OfTwoLands]

Yes there is :)

[@alexpuente6581]

@@OfTwoLands yeah just looking into it lol it’s not bad $500 dollars I have tried only canon fd I think I’m going to buy 35 and 85

[@isaacbedford3644]

Does the 18mm f4 vignette when you put filters on it?

[@OfTwoLands]

It does not :).

[@isaacbedford3644]

@@OfTwoLands have you tried it on a full frame camera?

[@LucaBono.Studio]

It doesn't on full frame sensor

[@andrebanks2272]

What focus gears did you get for your set?

[@OfTwoLands]

Just realised I didn't mention it. Got them on ebay super cheap like $4 haha.

[@attilaishere_barcelona7935]

Hah! $2000 is actually a bargain for these lenses nowadays... I guess you have to be very patient. I have almost the same set but from the East... :) The Jenas are quirky little tanks. I am waiting for getting those back from servicing and I intend to make a comparison between them and brand new Zeiss Cinema glass. Old vs New, East vs West... as it is always the case haha! The winner can be easily suspected.

[@OfTwoLands]

Yeah I think I did pretty good for the price haha :). I’m curious about your comparison, I’ll keep an eye out !!

[@ludekaschenbrenner8025]

I also have CZJ glasses (Flektogon 20 / F1,8 and Flektogon 35 / F2,4) They are good glasses only if they are in good condition and centered !!! Be careful, the rear member can move. I also modified Flektogon 20mm to 9 aperture knives because their aperture is made of plastic. That's not very good, the plastic was cracked, so I changed it all. Now I have a great wide glass for Cinema. Here is a short test on BMPCC4k kzbin.info/www/bejne/joq4hpeAn7SNbbs&ab_channel=LudekAschenbrenner Here is also a sample shot CZJ Flektogon 35mm F2,4. When it's a good piece, it's very good glass. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmbMd32Bp7uWbJo&ab_channel=LudekAschenbrenner But Zeiss Contax are better, unfortunately quite expensive today .....

[@attilaishere_barcelona7935]

@@ludekaschenbrenner8025 Hey Ludek, many thanks for the vids and the advice! I guess I am lucky with my set, the lenses are fairly sharp, definitely sharper than the Comrades :) They were just a bit stiff here and there. Contax line is awesome though pretty expensive. I am not there yet for this kind of commitment. CZJ and a Lumix 12-35 keep me happy so far and I guess for a while.

[@attilaishere_barcelona7935]

@@OfTwoLands I'll send it to you when it's done. It won't happen soon though :) There aren't too many people around who can fix CZJs, I have to wait.

[@ludekaschenbrenner8025]

@@attilaishere_barcelona7935 Hi. If you have good pieces, CZJ are a great choice. I still have for the old pocket of glass CZJ Tevidon (1 "glass from the security cameras of the communist police Stasi) These are also great glasses for smaller chips. Very good set is Tevidon 10mm F2, Tevidon 16mm F1,8 and Tevidon 25mm F1,4. I put BMPCC in one pocket my shirt and three glasses in the other. And ready for shots everyday. On my channel there are examples of the work of these "eastern" glasses.I prefer to shoot with BMPCC (old small version) with a Tevidon 16mm F1.8 lens. Here is the set for this: altechnologies.cz/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/BMPCC-cmount03.jpg I modified the BMPCC to C-mount No reductions = no problems. Great for outdoor shots. I also use this set on BMPCC4k in 2.6k crop mode.

[@frankiedogturner1516]

Sydney Australia is a truly beautiful city isn't it?

[@OfTwoLands]

Really is :) !!

[@henrysaint-juste6526]

8:02 what brand did you say? "Thanks to brands like ???."

[@JetSetDiva]

Meike and Xeen, they both make cine lenses.

[@ashakangok]

Why didn't you add a macro lens to the lens set?

[@OfTwoLands]

Because I pretty much never shoot macro.

[@carletta-carletta]

I have a BMPCC 4k....Would these lenses work? Thank you in advance

[@OfTwoLands]

With a Contax to M43 adapter it should :).

[@rodrigolev1]

I also own tohse lens ,, have the 28,35 f1.4 adn f2,8, 50mm, 60 macro, 85 f1.4 and f2.8 and 135mm. I use as well of then in My contax Aria body for stills 28mm,50 f1.7 jus tlove what comes out of it

[@OfTwoLands]

Nice !! Awesome lenses :)

[@LucaBono.Studio]

That 35 f1.4 is impossible to find! Lucky you ahahah

[@rodrigolev1]

@@LucaBono.Studio In germany we still can !

[@Milan-cf1xe]

What do you think about pairing them with Canon FD lenses? I mean i can only afford one of them.

[@OfTwoLands]

I think if you get a really good FD it should be fine. It’s just that the FD tend to flare a lot more and have more of a look than the zeiss.

[@Milan-cf1xe]

@@OfTwoLands My Canon FD 24mm footage doesnt look as clean, as yours what could be the issue? I cant see any dust on the lens

[@rulansmith]

Hi is there a way I can email you to ask about these lenses, I'm a beginner photographer

[@rulansmith]

What budget friendly cameras can they be mounted on, and would you suggest the 28 mm 2.8 for portrait shots/product photos/commercial shooting? Thanks for this presentation

[@gearframes3103]

Nice lenses!

[@OfTwoLands]

They really are!!

[@BariStrikesback]

Are the 50mm and the 85mm Nikon F mounts?

[@OfTwoLands]

The 50 and 85 are CY mounts with an adapter (listed) :)

[@BariStrikesback]

@@OfTwoLands okay thanks. I ordered the 50mm and the 85mm but the website I ordered them from said they were Nikon F mounts. Are there different versions with different mounts?

[@b1rd317]

Are they any good for photography?

[@OfTwoLands]

I’d say so yes since they were built for that purpose :).

[@teilovellacott7702]

CongWats ☝🏼👏🏼✨✨

[@willis0522]

Do you still keep your pocket 4k?

[@OfTwoLands]

A friend of mine has it :).

[@Chorum28]

All my contax zeiss lenses have a yellowish tint to them, is that normal?

[@OfTwoLands]

Hmm, I’m not sure I have experience this. Which camera are you using ?

[@Chorum28]

@@OfTwoLands Im using a fujifilm x-t2 but just got an eos r. I get where you're going tho, I'll test them on my eosr it might be some settings i changed on the xt2. Thanks.

[@KratasCRAFT]

Golden tint is common with radioactive glass.

[@renzosunga646]

The BMPCC 6K has a crop factor of about 1.56x, does this bother you at all considering you can’t go exactly the focal length that you got?

[@OfTwoLands]

I have always shot on S35 sensors (C100, C200, Ursa etc) so this doesn't bother me at all :). Only recently cameras changed to FF.

[@renzosunga646]

@@OfTwoLands haha totally get you. Thank you for the reply! Love ur work 😃

[@renzosunga646]

Also, I have a set of Contax Zeiss, (28,50,85) and I use a fotodiox ef adapter, but mine wiggles on my bmpcc 4K a little bit, does your adapters do the same?

[@tijmenbrouwers]

@@renzosunga646 do you use the pro version? And do you use it in combination with a speedbooster? I’m currently using a k&f concept c/y to ef together with a Speedbooster XL 0,64. I am having problems with it having play as well as problems with reaching true infinity focus when shooting wide open (F1.4). Would love to hear what your setup is and if you also have problems reaching infinity focus.

[@renzosunga646]

​@@tijmenbrouwersI just use the normal versions of the CY to EOS mount. I actually found that the fotodiox adapter is really loose on my 85, so I ordered another brand called Haoge and that one fits like a snug, and for my 28mm, I am using a brand called Oumij: www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07WCFLW1C/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1&fpw=alm For some reason, the lens mounts are not all the same fit unfortunately. As for my lenses, I own the 50 1.7, but I don't have any problems with reaching infinity focus. It might be a problem with your actual lens maybe? My current set up is: Speedbooster 0.71x ------ to CY/EOS ----- Contax Zeiss