Contested Removal - Judge deGerolami

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[@justanothersmith6012]

If this was a drinking game , taking a shot every time Alex Z lied, we’d all be dead from alcohol poisoning 🥃😵

[@orapronobis2149]

😝🙃

[@ellendickey4769]

He’s a terrible liar. He makes no sense. He thinks he’s sounding smart, but…. Such arrogance.

[@stephaniesaslut12616]

Just started the vid can't wait to c what this is all about

[@msherry5]

I just realized I'm gullible. It's been a long life & I never knew. 😳

[@awkwardlyamy3765]

Ok I'm not the only one who is smelling bull shit here.. he's a damn joke..I'm not even halfway through either.. 😂😂 So I can only imagine

[@theoneandonlypussinboots1180]

The first dad is like the obnoxious teenager trying to defy authority.

[@hhkk582]

He was so smug and a liar...

[@twerkingherkin]

​@Hh Kk he was so annoying 🙄

[@tiam.5897]

You mean, you don't believe Alex who isn't Alex and never had a CPS case but did but didn't in the way the mean old lawyers are saying? Alex truly believes birds aren't real.

[@stevec9580]

Listening to the dad testify, and act like he's smarter than the lawyers that are questioning him, is painful. He's not half as clever as he thinks he is

[@chuckbass3641]

He got his kids back, and you would do the likewise if you were in the same position. So spare me your pro-state interventionism. F - the state. They did not have enough to remove the children, and the children's own lawyer said he agreed there wasn't enough evidence and CASA said ditto. So obviously he is doing something right; despite the over-exaggeration from the agents of authoritarianism.

[@Claudia-lq3ns]

Ugh, so annoying. People who think they are smarter than everyone else usually tend to turn out poorly in court. Like to think he'll learn a lesson, but folks who think they are smarter than most are usually dumber than most.

[@tiam.5897]

Oh yeah. There will be no lessons learned here. Kinda sad...

[@zenaidaalvarado2348]

Kind of sad how anyone could defend the state like they could wrongfully and illegally remove my kids filing it in the wrong court against my rights and kids federal rights causing my kids ptsd and robbing them of the freedom of being in their own home after months of shelters smh y’all are just as pathetic as the department. Keep watching tho federal lawsuit will be on the media soon

[@sydneysovern]

He reminds me of a kid trying to lie to a teacher in school

[@LaZeeWitch]

Mr Knight looks just like he sounds and I'm here for it ❤

[@stevec9580]

Mr Knight looks like Dutch mantel, the pro wrestler back in the day. He looks like he wants to beat the guy with a horseshoe for lying to him

[@slupot]

Lying belligerently under oath about things that are easily provable sounds like a good strategy. I'm glad their lawyers approve of perjury.

[@StarryNightsAreForDreams]

It’s amazing to me how many in comments believed that guy. He was so smug.

[@zenaidaalvarado2348]

Yea like how cps WRONGFULLY REMOVED MY KIDS how they perjured the affidavit how they lied about statements they claimed from dads father who’s been dead since mr zamora was 8 🤦🏻‍♀️😂 easily provable. Pathetic really. I guess that’s why my kids were returned and the next court date was a result of the whole case being terminated bc the associate judge actually stuck to her judicial ethics and even pointed out how the department even filed in the wrong court to conduct this bs removal violating mine and my kids civil rights and federal rights .. y’all keep watching the federal lawsuit is coming soon 😂🎉❤

[@ashleydesiree4974]

If there are no real concerns, why in the world would you ever involve the state in your family? Your children only suffer. When you call cps hoping the other parent gets “in trouble” is only asking for a mess and traumatic events for the children

[@stonesatglasshouses3477]

People don’t realize that just because they take the child from the other parent doesn’t mean they will get the child. Everyone will be looked into and you will be questioned about the most ridiculous things. Just like family court, you don’t want a stranger telling you how to raise your children.

[@amybaby04]

My roommate had her kids taken away 6yrs ago (meth-head, and life of crime) she's been clean the last 2yr and theyer in the "reunite" phase. Ive NEVER does drugs, NEVER been in cuffs, never been to jail or prison (she's done all the above) and CPS wants to interview me AND my grown children! We're both in our 40. My kids have graduated school and are now adults. I'm currently looking for a new place to live! No LEVEL minded adult would let CPS NEAR THEIR KIDS. My roommate lost her shit when I told the CPS case worker I'm not letting her anywhere near my kids, grown or not. The case worker wants ME to take drug random tests! I'm a Nurse Assistant at a hospital! If I want a glass of wine after a rough day I should be able to drink it. Its not my fault the RM couldn't keep her shit straight. No state agency can tell me what I can and can't do.

[@stunzeed3066]

​@amybaby3972 the department doesn't care. I've been witness to hundreds of cases and they will always move the goal post. More removals more services more money for the state and department. It's proven

[@bastcat8]

@@amybaby04 you realize that they wanted you to interview because you live in the home? All adults living in the home have to be interviewed. Children over the age of ten have to have background checks. One of the things they consider during the interview is your alcohol use. As in, if you tell them you have a drink after work (which is totally fine) when they do the drug test just verifies you’re telling the truth. If you don’t have any OWI’s they don’t care if you drink. Also, the reason they are now asking for a drug test could be because you’re refusing to interview. Your roommate has every right to be upset with you because you are holding up her reunification because you don’t want to be interviewed. It will literally take about 30 minutes at the most. And most of the interview will probably be about your roommate!

[@juliewood4340]

@@bastcat8 Not trying to judge but, wouldn’t that be up to her to participate in the reunification or not. The mother is responsible for getting herself in this situation. I went through this when I was a foster parent. They treated me like I was the drug addict. The only reason I continued to put up with them was because I loved the child.

[@Annie1962]

Mike Knight is an EXCELLENT attorney - always a pleasure

[@SydneyBooksMusic]

1:01:48 this is so weird! I cannot imagine being called to testify in court as a case worker and 50% of my answers starting with “I’m so sorry, I don’t have that information in front of me.” She seems utterly distracted as well as extremely unprepared.

[@ED-es2qv]

If you had a talking white walrus asking you questions, you might get confused too. That mustache should have been sworn in.

[@Just_Murray]

​​@@ED-es2qv Awwww! He makes me think of a old country papa. Or Wilfred Brimley.😅

[@kathymcgirt8944]

Actually it sounds like she wasn’t the only investigator on the case. That happens when families move from county to county…

[@hallowedbethymelancholy8299]

@@kathymcgirt8944 ^^This. I have had foster kids whose caseworker changed 3 times in a matter of a few weeks. Each one having to try to bring themselves up to date on all that's occurred.

[@liveformybabies1190]

Those parents have jumped from county to county trying to avoid CPS

[@zenaidaalvarado2348]

That’s why cps was met with in every county willingly 😂😂😂 what a joke we kept moving bc I was homeless and in shelters after my business went down bc of coronavirus.ur opinion is pathetic just like the department

[@YoshiXO]

So what

[@cherveny]

in awe of Mr knights mustache

[@hallowedbethymelancholy8299]

It's like its own character.

[@paigewilson7893]

I always like when Mr. Ortiz is involved, as he seems very good at his job.

[@zenaidaalvarado2348]

Lmfao what a joke !!😂😂 he filed in the wrong court to conduct an unethical removal violating federal laws with NO BURDEN OF PROOF .

[@paigewilson7893]

@@zenaidaalvarado2348 Whatever

[@zenaidaalvarado2348]

IT’s public records look it up the whole case was terminated bc the state made countless pathetic attempts with careless and sloppy errors perjured the affidavit, lied under oath filed in the wrong court kept the investigation open for 7months left my kids in my care every time I made contact with the department claimed I was running but never even reached out when I was at a shelter never tried to help lol it was all a power trip that had nothing to do with the kids best interest that’s why it’s never even mentioned enough about abuse or neglect just what they think of the parents. Once I got my kids back I heard from the department once and never was offered anything else as far as services but the department was so worried about my kids being in my care tho right come on what a joke

[@quackiswhack]

I’m not gonna lie, I love Attorney Mike Knight. His southern gentleman vocal tone simultaneously dripping with passive aggressiveness when appropriate. He always seems completely unbothered.

[@jordanplans4611]

There wasn’t a shred of evidence of abuse or neglect just a whole lot of speculation and she said he said. We need to stop and think of the trauma done to the children during a removal. This removing kids on no evidence than seeing a judge after the trauma is already inflicted is terrible. In some cases the department is just too quick to remove which causes the child to have problems that they will say the parents caused.

[@nakela2]

Well some of those calls came from him. It seems like he gets upset and calls these agencies and then regrets and backtrack. So it would be all his fault, not necessarily CPS.

[@LightInsights]

​@@nakela2I agree, but CPS is also at fault here

[@CaptchaNeon]

I completely agree that the department nor the courts had any reason to remove the children.

[@jeanarino732]

Good call by the judge, if the parents want to be off the radar they now have a chance to do so while still having custody of their children. I think CPS can be overzealous at times

[@lethalviolet]

I hope you saved the date for follow up! This was a good one to watch… very interesting!! Ty!

[@Lenape_Lady]

This was so frustrating. ORDER THE DANG UI IMMEDIATELY and if they pass they get the kids…if not…they relapsed and shouldn’t have access. SO SIMPLE.

[@kathyw7143]

Well if someone concerned with my kids asked for a drug test, I would be Johnny on the spot unless I knew I was dirty. That's the part that gets me.

[@cynthiagildea-dixon314]

As a child of the 80's I was raised by hippies all around who loved to blaze on their time off... the difference is yeah, at a certain age we all knew our parents smoked "doobies" but they didn't smoke it in the room with us and kept it outta our reach and they maintain good jobs and took good care of us and my mom has passed but my aunt's and uncles still blaze... I don't believe marijuana in and of itself should be a reason to take kids but in a situation like this when other mitigating circumstances and other drugs come into play then it's definitely right 💯

[@bethewalt7385]

Spoken like the true child of "hippies" which btw are only, at best, pseudo hippies as the only real hippies lived during the late 50's and 60's, I am an actual hippies era one time hippie, born in 1960, it's exhausting keeping up with how much subsequent generations don't know, are clueless about, and need to be educated on, sadly since the 90's kids level of education and intelligence has rapidly gone downhill, social media has destroyed the learning ability and level of aptitude kids possess, the dismantling of language and bastardized use of language alone is deplorable, educational standards have dropped so low it's embarrassing, the street interviews of posing simple random questions to kids are shocking, asking kids in New York city which ocean borders them, I saw one such and every kid didn't know, most answered, uhhhh the pacific? It's sad, scary and indicative of how bad society is, we are doomed, so doomed, going to hell in a handbasket with this as our future....

[@lulu5803]

​@@bethewalt7385 Do you really think those shows don't cherrypick the the most sensational answers to get a rise out of people who believe anything they see on tv? Political shows of all flavors do the same thing. Gen Z as a whole isn't dumb at all. They're scary for sure, but for all the right reasons.

[@dellahicks7231]

​@bethewalt7385 I too am a 60's baby, I chuckle when for example from the a song is covered from the 60s/70s and our 24 year old son is all excited by a song one of his favorite artists wrote! Having said that, they aren't all uneducated rubes. Our son knows more history than I know at almost 60! I've seen those videos where you face palm every time there is an answer. Don't throw in the towel bethewalt, there is some hope yet! ✌️

[@StarryNightsAreForDreams]

Mr Z has great trouble with the truth AND his temper. This mom likely will have to separate fully from this man to keep her kids and to keep them safe IMO. Service Plans and drug testing are MUSTS. I hope to see an update to this case, and there is good news for these kids, whatever that looks like.

[@zenaidaalvarado2348]

Update on the case: kids were returned IMMEDIATELY bc the state wrongfully and illegally removed kids against federal laws and then the next court date an associate judge terminated the whole MTP and pointed out the state even filed in the wrong court to get the removal order to begin with !! So now there is a lawsuit against the department employees who violated federal and civil rights !🎉❤ my kids suffer from ptsd at the hands of the state and my kids were happy and safe and my 14, 4th and 6th amendment protects my parental liberty interest so as much as anyone would like to control someone’s kids or liberty interest just for their own piece of mind or whatever it’s not enough to take someone’s kids. 🎉keep an eye out on the media for the full after story it’ll be out soon

[@StarryNightsAreForDreams]

@@zenaidaalvarado2348 @OnTropolis

[@StarryNightsAreForDreams]

@@zenaidaalvarado2348 I’m very sorry to hear your children were returned. They are in great danger around Mr Z. I really hope you get the help you need to recognize your Worth, and put your children first above men so they know their Worth also. Your kids had PTSD far before the state stepped in, IMO

[@zenaidaalvarado2348]

@@StarryNightsAreForDreams you don’t even know my kids to say they had ptsd before hand my kids are amazing and had never been in danger the state perjured the affidavit and even filed in the wrong court to make me look bad and to conduct the removal otherwise there would have been no means necessary and provable information like they tried saying mr Zamora dad voiced concern of domestic violence in front of my kids when his dad been dead since he was 8 look it up it’s public record both the death certificate and the affidavit so when they say my kids were exposed to to violence that is a dry ass lie my kids have never been in situations where they been exposed to anything like that the cops and all that bull crap came after they took my kids when the blaming went on each other as to why our kids were away and that is when the cops were involved AFTER MY kids were gone and not in my care and I left the situation and got my own place for myself and my kids so how dare u say I chose men over my kids I would never !! Y’all don’t know me or my actual story but it’s all public record look it up.. and my kids are good kids innocent kids and have been through so much at the HANDS OF THE STATE regardless of my economic suffering I’d never leave my children and put them in situations where they cried alone at night the way the state did they had no right to do that!! And we are working on getting them back to their selves and I won’t stop pushing for justice for my kids until I’m heard in federal court so say what u want idc about anyone’s ignorant opinions none of u all know the actual story or facts or will ever believe the corruption that the department has if it stared at u in the face but stay tuned

[@zenaidaalvarado2348]

Like look at u u hide behind a screen name and tell me ur sorry that my kids were returned to a mother that loves them and a home that is theirs not a strangers like ur opinion is irrelevant and ur a coward just like the department

[@kcarmymomxs2551]

Good job Judge ! I’m impressed with the family’s lawyers

[@GeneralLeia]

Wilfred Brimley, is that you?!

[@Just_Murray]

YES!! 😂 I think this every time I see him.

[@pantaleimona]

This is one I'm looking forward to seeing more of. The father, the first one interviewed, seemed evasive. Of course his wife did, as well. I'll be surprised if they are found to not be using.

[@cathycoryell2351]

Yeah, they have submitted drug tests. But Noone mentioned results. Other videos, they are always checking their files for results. Something is way off. They make it sound like they have never done any drugs. But moving 3x in less than 12 months is not stability for k8ds in school. They father said she's a good mom. But somehow, they both lost custody. He sounds totally disconnected, and did not know his own status for custody, or visitation schedule. Makes you wonder what we're missing, from previous hearings.

[@lethalviolet]

@@cathycoryell2351 I agree 💯!!

[@savage_optimist]

Any update on this one, Ontropolis?

[@lethalviolet]

@@savage_optimist I’m interested too! 😊

[@tiam.5897]

Me toooo!!!!

[@tiam.5897]

@OnTropolis: this should be titled NOPE. MY NAME IS NOT ALEX AND I WAS NEVER HERE AND ALEX ISN'T HERE NOW.😂😂😂😂

[@tiam.5897]

I guess Zenaida was never here either. These 2 deserve eachother.

[@zenaidaalvarado2348]

🫶🏼alex&zenaida

[@blooper9586]

I had a case I investigated where dad was trying to get a "one up" against mother for custody. he accused mother of abusing drugs in front of kids. she took drug test and came back negative. I requested dad to drug test and he took several weeks to test coming up with all excuses couldn't make it. after he finally took the test, he came back positive for meth. he threw a fit that it shouldn't be used against him since he was the one that made initial report. I check everyone when I investigated

[@blooper9586]

it got bad that dad showed up to mom's, violating a TPO and taking kids from safety plan guardians, with a gun. even after that, the judge allowed kids to return to dad.

[@deborahhershey3045]

@@blooper9586 No way! That Judge should be removed from the bench!!!

[@maryb6672]

I worked at CPS many yrs ago, when I fresh out of grad school. At the time, the statistics were that at a minimum, 50% of all hotline calls were made by fighting parents, individuals in custody disputes etc. That’s not to say a parent shouldn’t call on the other if it’s legitimate. But the vast majority of those 50% calls were bogus. They still had to be investigated, which diverted dwindling resources & staff from cases of actual abuse/neglect. Wonder if those #’s would go down if blatantly false reports were prosecuted? I suspect so…

[@amandacunningham3213]

Idk this man’s specific situation, but I want to say, as a recovering addict, it would be completely inappropriate, unfair, and discriminatory for a court to punish an addict for continuing their substance abuse treatment, which is LIFELONG in most cases, by attending NA/AA meetings. There are people in those rooms who have 30 years clean, and specifically in my case, my ADDICTIONS COUNSELOR at my doctors office, who had over 25 years clean, still attends daily meetings. This is irrelevant, and it’s supposed to be anonymous for reasons just like this. If you find out someone is attending NA/AA, leave their business with them. I understand the need to use it in court at times, but the line of questioning here, trying to get him to admit he’s used by asking about his attendance is inconsequential.

[@jessicahardin8571]

They do this often & I don't like it at all, the judge shouldn't even allow that to be talked about, let alone held against someone. Shows how ignorant some of these CPS workers are when it comes to addiction.

[@Just_Murray]

I think it was more about him not being honest about his addiction. People don't go to rehab for the heck of it much less multiple times. Rehabs also don't normally moonlight as vacation hot spots so for him to say he doesn't have/never had a drug problem but has had multiple stays in rehab? That is super spicious in itself. 😢

[@ogcatlady]

​@Please help me Facebook to be fair AA/NA is not rehab. I completely understand and somewhat agree with your comment but do agree with others when they state AA/NA is supposed to be anonymous and, for some, a lifelong resource.

[@NavigatorMother]

If it's a private clinic, and you're paying full health insurance here in Australia, a percentage of people with addiction issues will book themselves in for a few weeks if they're having a heavy time of it but not necessarily drinking or using. The substance use is frequently a symptom of deeper, underlying conditions, self medicating is an embedded response to a lot of mental health issues after a while. AA and other 12 step programs are meant to be anonymous. It depends on the person how much they want to get out of the programme, relates to how much work they put into the programme. But yes- if he had read the literature he could have sidestepped those questions by reiterating that anonymity is the keystone to (our) success. However, in a lot of cases members have a sobriety date and/or an AA birthday, when their first first meeting was. This is highly significant to most members, as is celebrating their 24 hours, 1 week, 1 month, 60 days, 90 days and one year and so on, if they wish. Those who start to place high significance on their milestones and birthdays seem to start to do well too. It's all about a much‐needed change of thinking(-> honesty with self). But of course it's different for everyone, everyone does their own programme. These are just my observations only.

[@---C_B---]

Ten years here and still attend a few a week, they're an integral part of life and recovery. ODAAT 🙏🏼

[@SickBoiRENegade]

Anyone else think about Caysey Anthony🤮 when u saw Zenaida on the screen? Good thing her last name isn't Fernandez Gonzalez! RIP Caylee❤

[@zenaidaalvarado2348]

Lol my kids are not in danger y’all are ridiculous with these comments if they were then they would have had means to keep my kids or case open the case has been terminated and comments like this will help with how much this had in me how embarrassing!! Casey Anthony really lmao my kids are good loved healthy happy and thriving. Y’all are making the defamation of character easier to prove

[@SickBoiRENegade]

@@zenaidaalvarado2348 I'm sorry if my comment offended you. I really am! I did not say anything at all about you or your kids. Your name just reminded me of the Casey Anthony trial. Id never heard that name anywhere else. Just FYI ...I do not support what the CPS system has become. It's government child trafficking IMO! I wish nothing but the best for you and your children!

[@dianefrench1721]

Mother is learning particular ways to avoid detection. Taking note of all the CPS Supervisor is saying.

[@stunzeed3066]

Savage was right. They are basing their whole case on history. No new drug screens and people are allowed to make mistakes and can change. Not immediately submitting to every whim of cps does not mean guilt. The workers said the kids did not provide an outcry and all appeared taken care of. Cps doesn't like when parents dont bow down period

[@orapronobis2149]

Mom, Zenada, has such a sassy look when Ms Vasquez was giving her account of events to Mr. Knight..

[@owllover813]

Just because the children looks ok doesn't mean they were mentally abused by the actions of these sorry excuses of parents!!!😢

[@kiml1604]

The minute the dad said he called the police but he doesn’t know why or why they came to me says he’s lying about everything

[@nb-user25]

I am here for the amount of shade thrown by OnTropolis in these videos.

[@lautour]

I agreed with the judge's ruling completely

[@diannetinsley3926]

Why didn't Alex call police instead of DHS?

[@traciepatterson9264]

Why take a 12 step Program if not on drugs??

[@StarryNightsAreForDreams]

Apparently because he wanted some social opportunities 🤦‍♀️

[@lulu5803]

To prevent a relapse?

[@jojobaja]

CPS is like Law Enforcement. Don't admit to anything. Good job dude!

[@OnTropolis]

Good job, dude! You'll probably lose your parental rights

[@savage_optimist]

They did not "FLEE" If she contacted them in septwmbwr and moved at Thanksgiving. Id be so angry if CPS pulled that crap on me.

[@missangela97]

if they have nothing to hide and want cps out of your life just proof them wrong by doing the concerns that was brought up. its like they forgot there is mental and emotional abuse they don't show marks on they body

[@SydneyBooksMusic]

1:08:28 Knight gives me anxiety. Seems friendly enough but he’s so sarcastic to everyone. I can’t imagine having to be questioned by the likes of him.

[@Annie1962]

he does an excellent job and yeah not a great experience to be against him

[@ldegraaf]

Yeah I didn't like how sarcastic he was with the investigators. The guy is on your side there is no reason to get sarcastic with him.

[@SydneyBooksMusic]

@@ldegraaf right! And so often in court the answers are meant to be yes/no, singular and specific. Otherwise you get “objection, non responsive.” So I mean, dang he answered Knight’s question and when Knight pressed for specifications, he answered that, too. No need to get all snarky and sarcastic. Ick! Objection, argumentative!

[@Lenape_Lady]

Really looking forward to the April 25th appearance!!!

[@Lvnshyrn07]

Alex, Alex, Alex.....don't lie! I've never seen a sober person just going to NA or AA "because there's a lot to learn." Nope. Nada. Not true.

[@Annie1962]

37:31 the smile betrays him. He's not being honest.

[@blooper9586]

I remember I submitted a case for "Motion to Participate" back in Sept 2022 and finally got it approved Dec 2022, my last week working for the state. I have no control how legal and the court takes to complete their process. I'm not legal.

[@lilybug246]

The boyfriend is a terrible liar They’ve been running from CPS for a while moving county to county.

[@kathymcgirt8944]

So did CPS come into the home, see a big ol’ dumpster fire, and had to immediately remove the children? Did you duck the worker after that and pretend you hadn’t heard from them? The testimony doesn’t make any sense - we absolutely hate removing children. It costs money, requires an insane amount of footwork, gets workers and supervisors screamed at, requires hours of sitting in court, kids scream, cry and call people names - it’s trauma to the workers on top of trauma workers are acutely aware they are causing to families. Nobody wants to go through that and they won’t unless they think kids are going to be injured when the worker leaves the home. Period.

[@centexan]

Wow. You can't believe anything Mr Zamora says without some corroborating testimony. He is either really flaky or is really parsing his words to a ridiculous point. I truly get the feeling that mom and dad are uber suspicious of letting the state anywhere near them or their children. And, I don't blame them for that.

[@Just_Murray]

Except (it seems) dad tries to use them to his advantage against mom.

[@Sirek6]

Whenever they say Bee County and Beeville it makes me think of the Bee Movie! 😂 🐝

[@blaize32]

OnTropolis, have you ever considered volunteering at your local CASA?! You would be so good!!!!

[@OnTropolis]

We don't have CASA here, sadly. I've worked as an advocate in a similar sort of role but not court specific like a CASA is. I'd love it tho!

[@YoshiXO]

No cut the bs. Casa doesn’t help anyone but the courts

[@tashyam7736]

The most incredible thing is that these people really think the judges and professionals are stupid. We know you're lying bro

[@CaliMishell]

When lawyers ask these folks when the LAST time they were contacted by CPS was and they answer so nonchalantly that I was a LONG time ago “like around September”. I’m always floored. AUGH! The last time I was contacted by CPS is NEVER and my son is 28.

[@zenaidaalvarado2348]

U SOUND IGNORANT lol 😂 I FLOORDER LAUGHING AT THAT COMMENT BC ALL YOU PPL HAVE NO IDEA HOW THIS WHOLE UNORTHODOX ORDEAL TOOK PLACE THIS IS A SMALL SCENE FROM THE MIDDLE OF THIS VERY UNETHICAL REMOVAL MEETING NO BURDEN OF PROOF .. most of these comments sound ignorant and you ppl don’t know half of your rights nor do u know the story or background that this unfolded from. These are my kids that the state played with not it’s so I don’t really expect anyone to be considerate and I really don’t care for it but I will say one thing just to be completely transparent the drug use the department claims there is consist of ONE POSITIVE HAIR FOLLICLE FROM 2017 they and y’all completely categorized me as a bad mother because of choices that a vindictive co parent makes to call cps on me then regrets it later all bc of a past I have I am obligated to prove myself worthy of my kids to the state and whoever else when and where ever the co parent gets upset ! Lol yea no I played that game for years and have yet to give a positive drug test the handful of times I’ve had to be harassed from the department and am at the point to where it doesn’t even matter what I say do or prove I’m never going to be more then the ont positive HAIR FOLLICLE that I gave 6+ years ago not even my ua was dirty just a hair follicle not saying that’s okay I’m js this is what I’m being judged off of over and over again this is degrading none of the negative drug tests we’re ever mentioned I wonder why lol especially Considering this investigation was opened for 7MONTHS AND THEY BARELY DECIDED TO REMOVE THE Kids 7MONTHS LATER AFTER SEEING THE KIDS A HANDFULOF TIMES IN BETWEEN AND NEVER CONDUCTED A REMOVAL UNTIL I TOLD THEM I WOULDNT DO CLASSES BC I DID EVERYTHING THEY ASKED TO FIX THE ISSUE OF BEING HOMELESS AND JUST WANTED TO ENJOY PEACE WITH MY KIDS IN PRIVATE WE DESERVED THAT MUCH AND THE STATE ROBBED THAT FROM NY KIDS AND TOOK THEM a WEEK AFTER WE GOT A PLACE AND OUT OF SHELTERS AND CO LIVING! So YEA SEPTEMBER IS A LONG TIME TO NOT HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT REMOVAL DURING AN INVESTIGATION CONSIDERING THE STATE INITIALLY HAS 30DAYS TO CONDUCT A PROPER INVESTIGATION IS WHAT THE GUIDELINES THAT CPS IS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW THE RULES THAT OUR FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT MADE NOT ME

[@dellahicks7231]

Wouldn't your first call, if you couldn't find your children, be to the police, and not CPS?

[@julierobinson7361]

Good call, judge!

[@kathleenrust5230]

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that mom is under the influence of something during this hearing not is the constant fluttering of her eyes and her inability to keep her eyes fully open

[@2eyecon]

THANK YOU... for the research, hard work, and great content. Keep it up and you will be stuck with this viewer for a long time, (I hope), to come! 😊 P.S. IF I could afford a membership I would sign up instantly. Medical issues that caused me to require a lot of help have me feeling too guilty to do so now despite how reasonable the cost is here. So I will continue to subscribe, like, and comment as others say it helps you at least a little bit.

[@OnTropolis]

I appreciate your support 💖

[@Just_Boo]

Agree! OnTropolis is the best!

[@zenaidaalvarado2348]

​@@OnTropolis I never got a response to the email I sent about my side of facts and documents to back them up??

[@silentjustice5657]

I feel like if they're asking questions like this, they already know the answers. Keep smoking Alex.

[@piva1358]

Is this a trouple????🤔🤔🤔

[@kerryadams9100]

I was split on this one.

[@CleeTorres_]

The name Zenaida reminds of the Casey Anthony trial! That was the name she gave the cops. “Xanny the nanny” 😳

[@kathydolan5745]

Onboarding with Halliburton? Yeah, right…….

[@altaft9587]

Its still hearsay!!!!!!

[@michellewrub3624]

Jesus Ortiz can come check on my kids everyday 😅😂

[@lilybug246]

I am totally shocked by the outcome. They are getting them back and they are going to run again.

[@CaptchaNeon]

They have to prove they’re a danger to the kids and they cannot

[@kcarmymomxs2551]

Everyone is so vague

[@easttowest5984]

This judge’s decision deserves no respect or weight in a court of law. Please see the video where she puts a child with two black eyes, a scar from a belt buckle to the forehead and scars on her legs from urine saturation back in the home with the abuser. She should lose her position. She’s disgusting.

[@lindasutherland9775]

Oh so funny and so…true!!!!!

[@jaggirl]

Trouble is Mr Lawyer, your client only seems to do the drug testing when he's ready and willing.🚩 Not when CPS request one from him. Smh..

[@stephenbowles7153]

Do any of these folks really believe the kids will have any normal life with this many people involved in their lives. With all these lawyers and et al involved it seems to me insanity is the next step forward for these kids.

[@bethewalt7385]

You do know that the children have no clue, that is they haven't and don't meet with all these involved individuals you point to, most all of this goes on behind the scenes as far as the kids are concerned, though I believe dad is a big fat liar liar pants on fire....sadly these children appear to be in danger, I hope they're well protected in the end....

[@christinelamont1311]

I know I'm late to the party, but I have serious concerns for the safety of any children under the "supervision" of the POTATO PERSON they call a C.P.S. worker (either of them)! Barely verbal, unorganized, unprofessional, I wouldn't hire either of them to water my plants! Jesus Christ! I'm actually angry!

[@Dolphinprincess12538]

I’m confused how mr Alex’s participation in AA/N.A. is a bad thing

[@OnTropolis]

This was a long while back for me.. but wasn't he denying having any substance abuse issues? Then in the next breath attending AA..for what purpose?

[@cathythoman]

so he moves from San Antonio to Harlingen 253 miles south and then moves from Harlingen to Beevile which is 170 miles north. hmmmmm

[@kcarmymomxs2551]

No reason to take these kids absolutely ridiculous after removing them again it will take a act of congress to get them back this time

[@Mandy7D7]

What? She literally gave the kids back in this hearing.... Did you watch it through? And Mom has a long history of drug abuse and endangering her children with 4 other cases in the past.

[@zenaidaalvarado2348]

@@Mandy7D7😂😂😂 your ignorant the drug history consist of one positive hair follicle in 2017 the rest of the drug test submitted were negative

[@stunzeed3066]

Now cps will be chompin at the bit waiting on them to mess up

[@moec6164]

Is there a follow up to this case?

[@jackiemarini3203]

OMG this man lies so bad . Maybe he's on drugs now .They don't just take your chrildren do they .Are there 8 kids 😮SMH poor little ones 😢💔

[@zenaidaalvarado2348]

Wtf 8 kids lol what are u watching

[@grasshopper1451]

All that moving around and the Judge didn't mention anything about scheduling service's and staying put until the service's ordered were completed to the satisfaction of CPS and the court. Hopefully, we'll see the next Court date. If this was me and someone was asking for hair and a UA screen's I'd be happy to give them anything they wanted. Unless I had something to hide.

[@reedo9002]

Whoah. That CPS worker showed up, sucking food from her teeth. Meanwhile, she's wholly unprepared with zero facts to cite and no records, notes or case files for reference. 😮

[@Claudia-lq3ns]

I'd be so mortified if I had to attend court like that.

[@GrannyV29]

Alex appears to be so untruthful.

[@kiml1604]

Wow could he lie any more

[@awkwardlyamy3765]

N.A Narcotics Anomous & A.A Alcohol Anomous are ADDICTS! Ppl addicted to Drinking & Drugs. Ppl trying to get off & stay off & live clean. It's not a fun club & it's just weird & strange for ppl do "Go hang out" if you're not trying to get help.. My opinion is that he is a liar!!

[@kellymarie923]

Do not agree with the school contact that's to much on child they get teased and bullied CPS seems to not have crap together miss lopez sounded like she was adding more information on the fly🤔

[@One_Anonymous_Voice]

Despite what you think of the dad, the mom or the situation: Mr. Knight is incredibly condescending. It's not the first time I've seen that from him.

[@AngiesCousin]

Atty Mike Knight questions like Dr. Phil.

[@amybaby04]

We will see these two again. Judge failed the children..😢

[@kimmaried.7313]

They go place to place avoiding CPS and refuse to take drug test. They makes no sense for someone that wants their kids back.

[@PrissyTxTomboy]

Ugh, Jesus Ortiz' gum chewing drove me freakin' nuts!! I think Mr. Alvarado is naive but has a good heart! Thanks for another good one, OnT!!

[@AngiesCousin]

So gross.

[@rhinawbp6138]

could you maybe put a list of who is who. I know they said at the beginning but the way it is displaying some of the people are not on the screen at the same time and this one was confusing.

[@kiml1604]

If no one said their was a problem why was CPS involved and removed the kids

[@orapronobis2149]

All the grooming that is being done in this case. From the Dad that just put on a knit cap. The CPS worker, Velez, continues to fix her hair and headband. The Mom Zenada at the beginning continued. Ms. Velez continues to play with her hair. Do these people realize they are in a court proceeding and that the convenience they have with Zoom is a privilege? OMG now the Dad removed the knit cap. Please have some respect with meetings that are using Zoom. The Judge should not have to police up this sort of behavior. Both parents seem to not also understand interacting with police officers. Mr. Knight is to clever when he gets his facts through a very clever tactic. He asks the questions knowing the answers. The recall is amazing.

[@January1530]

Any updates to this case

[@CleeTorres_]

As someone that partakes in the devils lettuce. I can confirm that both parents are high as a kite. I have never done meth though so that is beyond my preview 😂 On a serious note, these “parents” do not want their kids back. They’ve clearly shown they have chosen themselves over their kids. Gross. I think they should have been removed and should not go back at this point in time. I pray for those kids.

[@zenaidaalvarado2348]

😂😂you sound ignorant asf . I got my kids and got the case terminated and MTP thrown out🎉 I fought the state I won and I’m following through with whatever I can to hold the state accountable for overstepping my kids rights. U know nothing from this little clip u got to see what they wanted to show naive gullible ppl like u and every one else who have an opinion but no real facts these comments are just helping me with the defamation of character suit I’ll be filing to the employees that conducted this case

[@CaptchaNeon]

In what way? The kids had no bruises, marks, made cries for help, were appropriately dressed and were for the most part clean

[@CleeTorres_]

@@CaptchaNeon I pray to baby Jesus that you don’t have and never do have children. They’re addicts. Addicts can’t raise babies. The fact that you think them being “somewhat” clean is all that matters is terrifying.

[@victoriag5617]

The courts did not meet their burden. I am sick and tired of hearsay information from so many of these caseworkers. There is no proof whatsoever that parents answer caseworkers questions as they claim. The burden is on caseworkers not parents and parents do not need to drug test just because you requested. They have rights and they’ve exercised their rights. They were not arrested with drugs, they were not in a car accident with drugs, the schools did not make any concerns regarding drug use so no parents do not need to be tested just because someone somewhere and even your past can dictate get a drug test

[@maryhirsch863]

Attorney Asare was very hard to listen to🤦‍♀️

[@debraphipps1028]

I understand the dad who willing to keep all the kids because I have legal custody of my ex husband & his new girlfriend 2 babies I got them little over 6 yrs ago people ask me why I would do this once they are my kids brother and sister but I fell in love just wanted to give them a chance in life by first giving them stability which help my Ema trust me I would be here always for her I wouldn’t just leave her Noah was only 15 days old so what their birth parents do didn’t affect him with fear of being alone, but what his mother chose to do while she was pregnant, affects him daily with no prenatal care using alcohol drugs my baby boy has nonverbal, autism, sensory processing disorder, fetal alcohol syndrome, and pica but with the right therapist and therapy me learning how to do what I need to do and his special school with the best teachers he doing great this is our saying to each daily Love makes a family not blood with God a the center of our lives

[@peggybaby0894]

I’m glad she objected about the calls but she shoulda done it way sooner. I thought those were always anonymous. As much as I do feel like something isn’t completely right, I don’t think it’s fair to say they just ran and evaded. It’s being said they were there temporarily and I feel like she would have told a worker that within 2 conversations they had. Also being in limbo for over 2 months they had no idea what was going on. Moved into their apt. Got their crap together faster than the department did. I love an attorney who isn’t afraid to ask CPS the hard questions that bring out the slow behind the scenes scramble of everyone. No fault of theirs but not the parents either. If you’re talking about taking kids you should know exactly how many calls and exactly how many different reporters. I agree with the judge but colicky and nails are a little intrusive especially if they haven’t had the children. The department dropped the ball and came in too late so thank God these kids weren’t in any immediate danger. Great hearing!!!

[@CaptchaNeon]

Mr Zimora is very charming but in a complex, manipulative way. The way he speaks I expect him to be sitting in a computer chair with his feet up on the desk twirling a toothpick in his mouth 😂 It’s the most bizarre responses I’ve ever seen from an individual. I feel like Mr Zimora is the next Chris Watts

[@tylertucker6776]

Alex z. Is the biggest liar ever!!!

[@surrealheroine1846]

One of the rare instances where I think CPS has nothing and needs to back TF off!

[@jeanchavez2952]

Mike this mom went off camera for few minutes and now she looks like she is hitting The Nod . Like a heroin nod.. I hope she ok .

[@zenaidaalvarado2348]

Dumb asf 😂😂😂 u people are making the defamation of character law suit easy peasy thank you and never have I ever been on herion and I’ve given one dirty hair follicle in 2017 that’s the history they refer to look it up it’s public records that’s why my kids were returned and the MTP was terminated in the last hearing the state violated tons of my rights along with humiliating me with filling ppls heads with expectations like this !! I fought for my life every day the state robbed me of my kids so excuse me if I’m not up to par with ur standards or expectations on how I look or how drained I was mentally emotionally and physically whatever ur insinuating I was mentally tortured by the state in that time period worked 50 hrs a week to keep myself sane and alive !! thank god he saw me fit for my kids and rewarded me for every thing i worked towards and not ppls ridiculous opinions or accusations god bless ur heart lady I hope u feel better to get that ugly comment off ur chest

[@diannetinsley3926]

Attorney Richard needs to adjust his camera

[@alys4570]

I believe this was a case where CPS exaggerated, or left information out to specifically target these parents, and have their children taken away. But I also believe the parents lied and are continuing to lie to keep CPS out of their business. they probably are doing some drugs. it sucks because we are supposed to trust the state and in this case I can’t. I think the CPS worker lied like the parents did.