Contradictious Review: The Worst Accuracy Ever.

[@FuLou1988]

DEZ said the dispersion probably is from very left to right of both aiming circles thats why the value is so humongous. Thats also the reason for the aim circle shape

[@atalan09]

This fits, as Skill was hitting actually quite often for 700+

[@ericweatherbee9514]

Ya, wish he would have tried some longer shots. The 703 I think he showed .44 dispersion but that tanks hits where you aim, some guns are better than it shows on paper as skill has said himself. Also heavy tank battle line seems would be decent. Although the way skill ran it the switch over 1 to 2 is quick so opportunistic encounters as well.

[@Black4Cook]

Yes that also explains why the gun handling is perfect in the 2x shot mode. The aim circle of 1.05 never gets bigger when you move or turn the turret. The real accuracy is probhably more like 0.4 -0.5 but because you have the 2 guns next to each other its calculated as 1.05

[@scottb1821]

Watching other WOT KZbinrs, Seige mode is super accurate. Just because its a different reticle design, thats not the actual dispersion. Its OP if you use the gun depression, armour and plan your 1 or 2 shots. It is still early days, but ive seen better examples of how to use this tanks mechanics.

[@BATTLESTAR42]

I don't know how Skill can say people will struggle with this. 10 degrees of depression armor and instant double fire.

[@casperschaadt1258]

because its bad

[@ac4694]

same way jgdE-100 is the strongest td on paper 💀

[@chronaxis]

He’s washed for a while now, remember when he said the KPZ 07p(e) was shit? Contradictious is objectively strong

[@sir_vikingbeard5842]

​@@casperschaadt1258bs lol

[@sir_vikingbeard5842]

​@@chronaxistoo strong even. It is just another 700-800 alpha dmg tank on tier 8 ffs. 703, Skoda t56 and BZ are all bad for the game. WG never learns

[@barbequesandwich4853]

Skill is going to lose his mind 3 marking this tank. What a weird tank.

[@MrDuckAlmighty]

i like the idea of the tank. because it allows for instant double shots and no charge time. the amount of times ive whiffed or lost an opportunity for a good shot in a douple penetrator for that reason makes me excited to try the new tank if i get it or tech tree tanks if they come later. the downsides of the mechanics if they are just awkward at first would be ok as a price to pay for instant douple penetration, but if it's too much then its sad to see an opportunity missed by WG

[@jonathanvl1160]

I'm with this, it may not be the best but it's curing one of the most annoying things about the double shot tanks, it's like the gunner is doing some goofy anime ahh ability pose before pushing the trigger.

[@arturs4024]

nah normal double penetrators are way superior to this trash, just too many debuffs in the siege mode

[@warp103]

you have a charge time it call 2sec to go in to siege mode. So either way you can not fire a double and time you want. you still have to wait either way

[@Phobosian]

6:00 look at these guys man... all their heads are saying "NEW TANK MUST KILL REEE"

[@AdamtheRed-]

Gotta punish the whales!

[@T0m03at]

Too much thinking is bad tank for baboon?

[@adambalogh7239]

Yes ive noticed that. Example Kunze.

[@zeroyuki92]

I actually might prefer this over the current double barreled tanks. I don't think it's that complicated in gameplay as long as you don't think the IRL logic too much (basically just single = normal gun for normal situation, double = twice reload, slower, less accurate but double damage). I really hate having to hold other button for double and missing my chance/missed because of it, so having to reload both shells at once is a fair price for it. Save that mode for finishing/group brawling situations and you should be fine

[@nebvbn4504]

IMO I think rating it bad instantly is stupid. Firstly, you've completely disregarded your own opinion of waiting till you've played quite a few games in it. Secondly, it does have comparable advantages when compared with renegade. Similar p/w ratio, but rene has much worse terrain resistances, which means the contra would reach it's top speed most of the time. Dumping 720 dmg should be inaccurate, otherwise we end up with another TD-like tank with a turret and armor (have we forgotten BZ's already?). And most of all, renegade's armor is horrible, it has weak hull, weak turret ring and the biggest one, a top hat that anyone can shoot. The contra has a much smaller cupola and can mostly penetrate the lower plate only. I'm not sure where it'll end up at, but I'd guess it will end up at a 3.5/5 (between average and good).

[@Watykaniak]

this tank is trash

[@nebvbn4504]

@@Watykaniak It definitely could be, but I'd wait a few weeks before saying something's shit or awesome.

[@gottwyCZ]

I like Skill a lot but his first opinion videos are often wrong and completely different from his final opinion. I doubt it will be epic tank but it could easily be average.

[@Torskel]

I see big boom, I buy

[@bohdandudnyk6343]

@@nebvbn4504 That tank is complete piece of garbage. It is not effective to play it in single gun mode, and It is impossible to play it(with comfort) in double gun mode. WG literally made this tank on purpose to make players extremely angry. If I get this tank from the boxes, I'll write to WG support so they can remove it from my account.

[@kleinstadtdulli7760]

skill hits his shots over any distance, kills light tanks with double shots, doesnt get fully trolled. has good armor and not even that slow His reaction: this is going straight to the bad category can you explain a bit more? i cant really understand

[@warp103]

As a Former CC till a few months ago. we in the CC program know that we have advantage because no one knows the tank. After a month the bottom going to fall out because everyone will know the weakness of the 20 sec and So they will yolo you after that shot and hit you for the same damage you did with a anything that has 240 to 390 alpha guns. Also you will be out of the best MM range that wg gives New tanks , Meaning you will see a shit ton more tier 10 that will pen you with out fail, So you are looking at the best you go and remember he using a mod to make it easier to judge were it most likey to go

[@highongamin]

He is right skill your title of this video should be "Fix the Game"

[@Vhipir]

Looks so weird that it's amazing. It's like a pug. So ugly that it's beautiful.

[@AdamtheRed-]

Pugs are in no way beautiful. Sorry not sorry mate.

[@ubertron_x4094]

Captain Skill missed the opportunity for a nice Uranus joke...

[@Pittsburgh-412]

They are turning this game into world of tanks console

[@Tobertus]

Console is like a tank circus right?

[@Pittsburgh-412]

Yes it's so stupid. If you think this is a arcade game then go try wot console lol. It's not realistic at all. They even got hot wheels in it. That's what wg is doing to pc now

[@funnepic2458]

looks like you can use the 'siege mode' while moving and while reloading form double so you can reverse faster

[@CommanderBladez]

24:14 most blatant ghost shell I've ever seen. been happening to myself more and more and seeing it happen more on stream as well, WG need to get this sorted out. ruins the integrity of the game if a game winning shot just doesn't register... I mean imagine if this situation were a 1v1 and skill were a one shot as well? game would be over, t-103 can just overpeek him on reload while he should be dead. millions in lootbox income but let's not fix the core issues with the game and instead make uglyass 3D styles nobody asked for!

[@hasnainrakha57]

On avg 10 out 5-6 games i have this issue imagine tank with 22sec relode?

[@ZoomGrinder]

You should realize that there is a reason the real reticle size is bigger than with the mod he is using. Server desync is an important factor that you have to account for, which is why they made it the way it is. That shot clearly went into the ground behind, so the mod was misrepresenting the actual dispersion value that was registered serverside. I'm not saying that a "ghost shell" cannot be a thing, but you simply can't take any of skill's videos as evidence. These shots are just bound to happen with that mod.

[@CommanderBladez]

@@ZoomGrinder yeah the shot clearly went into the ground behind... after passing directly through the t-103's cupola lol. even with the mod you can clearly see the tracer and shell pass right through and splash the ground behind, which is not even visible otherwise because the cupola is physically obstructing it. I understand what you're trying to say but at that distance with the server registering where the shot hit directly behind... I'm sorry but it doesn't get much more obvious than that. I've played the game for 10+ years, never use mods and maintain a recent wn8 of 3.5k+, I'm not new to the concept of ghost shells. all I'm saying is personally I've experienced an influx of occurrences lately and this only further proves it

[@RogFrog397]

Looks good to me, idk what are you talking about. Biggest difference between contra and rene is armor, rene is basiclly paper with his weak hull, turret ring and huge cupola.

[@daddyandangels]

When the BZ was released first impressions didn't see it being as good as it turned out. I suspect Skill will look back on this vehicle and think it's far stronger than he thought in his first impression. The mechanics are different, but unlike the normal double penetrators, you have to hold and aim, this tank doesn't bloom on the move in double. You can move and instantly double. You will find it to be potentially MORE dominating than the BZ on ridge maps. I haven't played it obviously, but I can see this just being brutal in great matchups.

[@Black4Cook]

Yep most people think this tank is strong. Not as OP as BZ but strong. This tank in a platoon can delete a tier 8 in a few seconds.

[@poserbob6888]

It doesn't even make sense that the tank is slow AF when in double barrel mode... Like the Kunze Panzer siege mode doesn't make sense at all. Getting more accurate while reload is way longer. As if the Gunner is somehow disabled in siege mode.

[@cosminxxx5287]

notice "after firing" dispersion. in normal mode is x4, so circle increases 4 times after you shoot. in siege mode, hold yourself by the table or something, the dispersion after shooting is x8!? so this tank is definetly a facehugger tank. you play with this by closing the distance between you and the enemy using buildings or terrain, get in at 15-20 meters , activate siege mode knowing you will take 1-2 hits but you will smash 750+ in your enemy face. Deactivate siege and get closer. now the enemy can't hit lower plate cause if u noticed, lower plate is half the size of the upper plate. also the tank turet is higher, similar to kranvagn so if you facehuug a small enemy he will have big chances of ricochet . you have -10 gun depression so you can shoot them on the head or even in the behind area were the engine is. So definetly a very close range combat brawler tank. similar to is7 maybe.

[@thijsjansen7600]

yeah, taking one or two shots is not really worth it then. Most tier 8 tanks have 340+ alfa. That means that you will take at least 680 dmg. Not really worth trading if you are going to 720 with it being possible to bounche those shots due to the mediocre penatration

[@justinrafael227]

Cant WG just release 'normal', new tech tree line? the last one without any weird mechanic like Ho-Ri was successfull and can be strong anywhere from random battle to competitive plays. Britsh Wheeled especially concept 5 is miserable, JP 'modern' Heavies feels overwhelmed in their tier IX and X, and the entire Czech LT cost me the winrates whether I see them in my team vs the enemy team who have pure spotter lt. Only the Polish TD feels quite powerful but they niche as hell in the terms of usage too.

[@travishawks7702]

IMO they need to release lines / tanks with mechanics. Otherwise how will the new tank be any different from what's currently in the game? there are already like 800 tanks. Its hard to release a new t8 premium that is a normal tank without it being too similar to something already in the game. Purely theory, but I think that is half the reason they keep releasing "new" tanks that are old tanks with a skin. what else could they add? like the forest spirit, miel, and project ion. the other half being wanting money on sales.

[@subwulf6351]

If you remember, you can switch guns by switching to the double barrel mode and back, so I think if you take a shot you can switch to the other barrel (which has a loaded shell) in 4 seconds, 2 going into double barrel and two going out of double barrel, so you basically have a 4 second inter clip if I'm thinking right

[@might424]

I don't understand what's your thinking about this one... 10 degree depression good hull down armor half decent mobility one click double with decent accuracy Skill: nothing special to offer, bad

[@sandboy5880]

He's becoming senile.

[@Kayrol1990]

Bad tank? nah, this looks fun for me

[@arakainer]

It doesn't seem that much complicated for me. Normal gaming - single shooting. Close combat - double. You have to be aware of bad DPM. That's it

[@mardukdzieciol1712]

Can ypu short with other barrel while reloading first if shouting one by one? In theory second barrel is loaded. Why didny ypu try to switch it while loading?

[@Damphyre]

doesn't the double feel more like bz176? 720 alpha 14 sec reload and impenetrable hull down at the same tier or lower?

[@mosconisadepto6172]

it's a critical hit. Zero damage to the bank account this year.

[@VVerevvolf]

If I were still playing, I would be really happy to get this from the lootboxes - it is a better mechanism than the normal double penetrator for me :)

[@Bretista]

Don't worry, after you guys review the tank, WG is going to bait and switch anyways. Change it right before they release it

[@Wnfiirneoznfnroajrngork]

I mean, compared to the Renegade, even disregarding the double mode, this thing actually has hull armor and doesn’t have a giant turret tumor. Also, you are using a vstab on this, even though it does nothing in doubles mode. It might well be better to use turbo vents IAU or hardening vents IAU or IAU turbo hardening or something like that.

[@Dpixtion]

With the loot box tanks I would love to see you play them with a brand new crew with brother and arms, only and bass equipment as a standard player would have….

[@kariesistansteckend2196]

On Timestamp 0:2:45 i can see a very angry Face on the Tank 🙂

[@snakeplissken1754]

And here we were all hoping for the 4th iteration of a type59 reskin. Or how about a bz176b with the Grom gun, or a 703-3 with a 130mm rotary gun.

[@berrywarmer11]

At least it has a smaller cupola and better armor overall than Renegade 🤷‍♂

[@vvav]

I think clicking once for the double shot is a nicer user experience. It's not a terrible idea at the outset. What I don't like is that they're putting another 720 alpha damage tank into tier 8. They could have tested this design with a 300x2 damage gun and given it less handicaps. Tier 8 tanks evaporate SO fast in the current WoT meta.

[@chukku2175]

WG should at least give you the opportunity to switch out of siege mode after a double-shot to reduce the reload time back to the single fire reload (plus the 2s for switching the modes).

[@stokerel]

You'll change your mind about this tank, Skill. It'll be blatantly OP as far as I can see for a while, at 703/2 and BZ levels (respectively when they were introduced).

[@faiden8213]

So if both cannons are loaded at the same time you should be able (or atleast try) to shoot one single, go siege mode, go out of sige mode, fire the other cannon. I am working with theory of him showing that it changes barrels after going out of siege mode.

[@jk844100]

The DPM of both modes is exactly the same which is interesting

[@ZafrasF]

Yeah, you are better off without siege 90% of the times.

[@jk844100]

@ I think Daki showed off this tank in a better light in the video he just put up. The fact that you can switch modes on the move and while reloading is very useful. You can fire a single then while reloading switch to the double for 1080 damage in 10 seconds.

[@travishawks7702]

regarding skill saying they add too many tanks with new mechanics - Its probably better than them adding tanks without mechanics because we have so many tanks in game already its hard to make a new t8-10 tank that does not already exist. If they were to add a new t8 medium or heavy with no mechanic, how would it be different from any of the other tanks already out there? Odds are it would be such a small difference from some other tank already in game, other than nation, that it would likely not sell well.

[@pr4y967]

I may be wrong but is it possible to shoot once and than switch to the other gun and shoot it as well. After that it should be a 19 s. reload

[@damiangebarski2315]

Even if it's a bit more complicated, i still prefer instant double shot over charged one on 703. Even if you pre-aim, pre-charge it on object, still many many things can happen during the time you must take to charge it. After all everybody can agree that using double shot on 703 is mostly a mistake and unnecessary dpm loss. If i'm not wrong, many people struggled to understand object for a while when it came out at first, so i guess people will adjust to that one quickly. 1.20 dispersion is not the actual dispersion for each gun, it's just the area combined, so it's not accurate, but it's not worse than arta probably.

[@gianos13]

from what i saw you can go siege mode shoot double go normal load on 9 sec and go siege mode again?

[@atlasdgen]

Look again, he immediately returned back to the normal load after shooting double but the gun still needed to load for double.

[@aytugdogru9726]

Do you have reticle mod in this video ?

[@jorgeedudezrez2431]

It feel like they 100% cut the balls before being too strong 😂 learning from past mistakes good.

[@adambalogh7239]

I think this tank is gonna be 4 to 5 stars, mark my word. Theres a huge potential in this tank after mastering it. High skill ceiling, but it has everything to make a good tank.

[@ashtheswan705]

I think this tank looks very interesting. 700 alpha is a lot for tier8 heavy even if its difficult to use.

[@imb0red666]

only thing i can see double shot for is when peeking and hiding like hills and when the enemy tank has slightly more hp than 1 shell. dont know why you would take it over other double barrel guns but still only time i can see it has any use

[@Bmuelr]

Im SUPER excited for these new tanks. This one but all the loot box tanks.

[@markodespotov1455]

wg should just make all double barreled tank can shoot immedeately with both guns that way its simple and makes sense

[@stevefreeland9255]

What mod gives the kill shot replay?

[@Johnny2x4701]

what confuses me is you only have the one shell loaded when you fire single but when you switch to double the 2nd shell is just loaded. is that a possible cheese?

[@spoekles]

Solid point on too many mechanics making it overwhelming. If you vs a 'special' mechanic tank it is already a bit of a guess what the enemy can do if you haven't memorised all of them for each tank.

[@poserbob6888]

This cover mechanic literally makes no sense at all.. Siege mode, both covers open, you shoot both barrels, so both guns are loaded after entering siege mode. When single fire, the covers open and close for each gun after each shot but you have 10 sec reload somehow? Are not both guns loaded at the same time? if they fire in alternation, both guns should be loaded, you do one shot, cover closes, other cover opens, you shoot again and while this happens the first gun is already reloading.

[@Black4Cook]

You dont need v-stab if you only shoot in the 2x mode because your recticle wont get bigger.

[@adambalogh7239]

Idk why skill doesnt like skill expressive tanks, like this or Kunze. Its not complicated, its exciting, interesting. All tanks shouldnt be simple I like this challenging design way more.

[@hasnainrakha57]

24:14 it went right through t103 cupola this issue needs to be address and this issue is so much frequent this year.. skill4ltu u need to address this issue with wg

[@dirufanboy1971]

It's always the same story with this guy - a new tank comes out and he's like "I hate it with all my heart it is the worst tank in the World of Tanks......" One week later it's "I love this tank with all my heart it is the best tank in the World of Tanks......" Just wait a week. O_O

[@47-marcus95]

All they should have done was relased a double barrel medium or light line , this is to flashy and unnecessarily complicated.

[@AsusSusu-o3x]

and we already have a better ruski line of double HTs...

[@fanbooy4519]

ily skill, even i stopped playing the game, still enjoying it through your videos and urself, epic guy, all love ❤

[@Ima9ineBreak3r]

I'm so glad that the big boxes this year look like absolute doodoo. I don't need to feel pressure to buy any. Again. Like the last two years.

[@MrBoldom]

skill hiding the Armor value, :D

[@kizzzit5724]

DZT-159 Is the Review I'm looking forward too :)

[@-redacted]

I think, in theory, this mechanic can be realized on any twobarreled tank with mods, but without these restrictions🤔

[@costelserban6447]

Fix the game

[@aletir6111]

Wot didn't release this yet, you breaking nda skill? 💀

[@-__-_--_---_-]

Naah, WG is just slow I would expect the article in few minutes

[@aletir6111]

@-__-_--_---_- you were correct!

[@Terrorbrot]

All CC's uploaded these at the same time

[@umangsaraf426]

I think they probably had a discussion as to when can they release the videos latest, and then wg delayed releasing the news article due to some last minute changes or operational issues

[@davesk5523]

"AI" impossible challenge - reach epic medal "Sniper schnitzel" with this tank, but only with double 😀

[@Gil-galad12]

GB and WG made it. 1st british land cruiser in WoT :D

[@matapros69]

20:00 this is the problem, older prem tanks are so good, that now that wg is trying to release balanced prem tanks, they underperform compared to older prem tanks, please, dont compare to old absurd good tanks, lets not forget the 703 II its still busted (amazing gun, good armor, good mobility)

[@ZafrasF]

Rly dislike the siege mode, but you can simply play it as a single shot tank and just use siege mode on those very rare occasions where it might be useful. I think it will be an ok tank to use for the casual wot player because the armor is quite good.

[@69zedking]

Maybe Igor made it as a meme tank. It works the opposite way than what it should and that's why the name is a joke because it's contradictory

[@thecurtan]

Thank you for showing that there is really nothing interesting in this year's packages. Too many weak or too balanced tanks. Thanks Skill

[@ctrsa6044]

Watch the QB video - this is so OP. 1000 alpha in 10 seconds when you know how to play it, which Skill unfortunately is struggling with. Seige mode = zero disperson.....

[@MemphisMG86]

okay the point i don't understand the gun loads 2 sheels but the time to use tube 1 and 2 is at the rld of one tube as if the other would not give?! i think wg urgently needs to work on this again which is stupid

[@vounsky]

@12:50 - such a wasted opportunity for Uranus joke :(

[@AdamtheRed-]

I like the muzzle cover animation. That's all, though.

[@toohhy]

It's the reticule that's confusing people, why is it even necessary?

[@joncox2572]

Why don't we ever see sheriffs anymore?

[@Kristupasas]

1. Complain when WG realeses good tanks in lootboxes. 2. Ask WG to make lootbox tanks unique, not OP. 3. WG does that. 4. WoT community - "WG IS SCAMMING YOU! This tank is weird and funky, but its not good :(((("

[@marlinismosquito]

Switching between the left and right gun could have some niche use cases like peeking around different corners and using objects to your advantage sort of like how the AT-7s gun is on one side. Looks interesting.

[@kurtaaron4110]

if the left gun is loaded, you can't switch to right gun.

[@marlinismosquito]

@@kurtaaron4110 Oh damn, that ruins my little ideas then!

[@leifang9829]

This tank is a sign that the game designer is already running out of creativity. Only thing they could do is create complexity, which may look new but it actually not.

[@azizella2778]

This is the equivalent of autoloaders and auto reloaders just with double barrel tanks and now double barrel siege mode tanks lmao

[@tommyshaw25]

Are they different calliber?

[@Vaunont]

Only new tanks in the boxes, not sure yet if that is good or bad. There are still some older tanks on my wish list.

[@michaptak4314]

so once again no tds/arty as rewards?? fkwg

[@GamingBigChief]

i dont like that you have to wait for a barrel to be fully loaded before you can shoot your 2nd shot rather than letting you shoot once the gun is prepped and loaded. there are better tanks in general and better double barreled tanks than this

[@brandonean]

I like how complex it looks

[@greyhunter5304]

Imagine the wargaming employee who created this tank thinking it was a good idea. Then hearing skill complain about it and then sweating like a pig after realising he created a whole new line of these weird tanks.😂😂😂

[@M1rRroR]

It realy neads only possibility to shot single shot after double shot just after one gun reloaded

[@Iwqrxtwuvk23547]

Should add list of camo skins to your website 😎

[@kelvinanjos]

23:49 this abismal reverse speed...

[@cotidiemorior]

Of course we can complain about this. Who needs this shit? Not me.

[@overplayed7902]

It's weaker, slower, stranger, but still a Grom xD Big dmg and dpm at closer distance :D

[@dantethecruel6071]

I can't even imagine that rage during 3 moe streams

[@VanguardDetonados]

waiting a couple of days for skill to post a video saying how he was wrong about it...

[@zman-ru3yf]

Can we only get 5 twitch tokens per day?

[@TheG4me12]

I clicked the video to enjoy Skill saying merranik

[@goranstefanovic3603]

Its worse than 703 II, am I right? You can shoot double barrel and reload 1 and shoot, with this one, you have you wait for both guns...

[@lufthansa7471]

703 is better in my opinion

[@MOTA_KRAMPUS]

Holy fuck, WG is getting really desperate...