Control Ableton with a Game Controller!

[@ShiroCh_ID]

Producers : What Midi Controller Did You have? Kaskobi : Game Controller

[@Gilthwixt1]

I'd love to see you revisit this with an arcade stick or a hitbox. Making custom controllers is really popular in the fighting game community and while wiring and programming the LEDs on my own I realized there's nothing really stopping someone from making their own custom MIDI Fighter 64, which would be pretty handy given that they're sold out (or discontinued?). But before going to all that trouble there's really no reason you couldn't just use an already existing Hitbox to mess around and do basic drum beats with.

[@howlinnadeaux766]

man, that would pay out for one hell of a performance to see

[@deepseaminingsyndicate]

i got a victrix pro fs guile green from sf5 era and a 2023 snackbox micro - stumbled upon this video looking to see if i could turn them into mpc style controls for slices in simpler! I'll download M4L plug today to this today and see if it works!! One really interesting thing is that on most of these fighting game controllers, there is an option to change what protocol you send either with button combos or when you turn it on holding a button aka Xbox, PC Gamepad, switch, PlayStation etc. Kaskobi already set it up for different mappings specific to what controller the computer thinks is plugged in aka what controller says it is so theoretically with some slight tweaks to the M4L file you could have different mapping profiles for the same controller like maybe Xbox setting is your Simpler controller and Playstation is your Serum controller and Switch is all Midi CC macros... and then have different settings the buttons do. Also if I plugged in both my controllers and set one of them to PS5 and the other to Xbox i could maybe use both at the same time doing different things...

[@AlbertoBalsalme]

​@@deepseaminingsyndicate hey man, have you tried doing those tests with your arcade stick? I'm curious to learn of people's experiences in that direction, it opens so much doors to fly ways of making & playing music

[@matko8038]

That lightsaber though! 😍

[@xminusplus.]

this is fkn awesome broski!! Nice work!!!

[@awentator]

His Discord be like: *Playing Ableton*

[@vouztyro]

this is so much fun to play around with, really enjoyed it. congrats on making such a cool and useful plugin!

[@jeffharristv]

🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:00:00 *🎮 Introduction & Overview* - Introduction to using game controllers with Ableton, - Mention of the various types of controllers tested, - Explanation of what will be demonstrated in the video. 00:02:25 *🖥️ Setting up Game Controllers as MIDI Devices* - Details on setting up a game controller as a MIDI device in Ableton, - Using Max for Live device for connecting controllers, - Explanation of initial device setup and recognizing controllers. 00:04:50 *🎹 Using Controllers with Virtual Instruments* - Usage of game controllers as MIDI instruments, - Mapping buttons and pitch bend using the controller, - Ensuring uniformity across different types of controllers. 00:10:09 *🎮 Additional Controllers and Unique Features* - Overview of using Nintendo Switch Pro Controller and PS3 Controller, - Discussion on Bluetooth and wired connections, - Unique features like aftertouch and pressure sensitivity. 00:12:38 *⚙️ Ongoing Development and Future Plans* - Mention of additional controllers to be tested, - Current limitations and expected future updates, - General note on the broad applicability of the device. 00:14:19 *✈️ Experimenting with Other Controllers* - Demonstration with unique controllers like the flight control system, - Explanation of customizable control mappings and features, - Exploration of non-standard controllers for MIDI input. 00:15:56 *📜 Conclusion & Closing Remarks* - Summary of the demonstrated functionalities, - Encouragement for viewers to experiment with their setups, - Sign-off and future content tease. Made with HARPA AI

[@remiyashirou]

That last controller tho lmao.

[@ryaaad2]

Wow ! Can you also control ReC, play, stop.... With it ?

[@typicstorm4693]

That’s cool that you can make midi activate from controllers

[@MathewZ788]

next up: using a toaster to control an airplane.

[@user12many]

that was so funny

[@happyszzzzs2173]

This was so funny my dad cam home with the milk

[@MathewZ788]

@@happyszzzzs2173 hey he found milk, it's your lucky day pal

[@Xanaduum]

And he went out for a pack of cigarettes....​@@happyszzzzs2173

[@ffsinetik2124]

😂😂😂 funny call ! 🤜🏼

[@LuisTorres-qz5kr]

This is great! Thanks for sharing. It be really cool to enable the NES Controller For Nintendo Original 80s Console Gamepad

[@adityave]

Hi kaskobi. Big fan

[@fritsvanzanten3573]

Looks great! I haven't read all the comments, but you might serve a lot of people when this device would also work for HID/USB-footswitches, that (as far as I understand) then can only generate one MIDI-code, like CC64 and you can use it as sustain pedal, or as an on/off looper switch for guitar players. That's how I came here.

[@fritsvanzanten3573]

It didn't find my foot switch as a device (Windows did and it did work as a mouse switch).

[@dijjidog]

nice mix of content longer review and tutorial videos to earn your dough and short launchpad covers to keep your audience happy Great wor man :)

[@OfficialDragunV]

13:30 G-2 Nice notes

[@deez6102]

Kaskobi is a genius

[@prinxe9466]

The last controller is insane lmao

[@ListenAnObserve]

Flip a switch just to hit a piano note 🤣 that was awesome lol

[@mrscakehead]

good for live remix , set dj style controls , back to marker, loop section , add echo , filter sweep on main mix bus etc

[@mrscakehead]

and whilst dancing round the stage? or use a tv remote ?

[@SIDESHOW_GARY]

i feel like mod wheel and expression were missed, but pretty cool ty

[@mandyone5284]

Yeah right? And with a whole analog stick unused

[@user-xn6sx5ic7n]

wow this one looks sooo coooool I wanna have one

[@johnhemphill6122]

I know I'm a year late to this party, but is there a way you could provide a bit of documentation? I'm trying to figure out how to map and remap specific controls, and I'm having a bear of a time trying to decode the way max for live works.

[@resonantfield]

same here. I want to use my 8bitdo arcade stick primarily to trigger effects. Would be so cool to use the stick for hi/lowpass filtering, inspired by the Splatoon 2 waiting room

[@JGHFunRun]

Kaskobi: Control Ableton with a Game Controller Me, an intelectual: Mac n Cheese (by Shawn Wasabi)

[@shoumeekbose4662]

Question hi Kaskobi, great vid :) I am able to connect my redgear wireless controller through this but when i try to record, it plays and I hear it but does not get recorded ? any idea what should i do ? Thanks in advance

[@PineappleStickers]

I might be missing the option somewhere, but is there a way to re-map which notes correspond with which button on the controller?

[@Skollorus]

After launchpad projects, the gaming controller projects

[@Daxxxter99]

thanks for sharing this! did someone ever find a way of remapping the actual midi notes of each button?

[@ayorxbinishere]

Very interressing instrument 😂🔥

[@etronixtunes]

@Kaskobi do you have any plans on costumazing your Launchpad Pro MK3 like your Launchpad Pro? It would be very nice to see your Launchpad looking sexy again 😄

[@Serge1850]

I'm tried it this on Windows 10 with my control of Xbox One. the use is very limited. Could you add a mapping option for these software? I would like to mapping my Xbox controller for create modulations.

[@Thine_mother]

Here just in time because of discord

[@venus007e6]

When does the updated version of "Prepare your WINDOWS PC for Launchpad Performances" come?

[@jason6524]

never

[@venus007e6]

@@jason6524 why?

[@pest5373]

Should have the other stick as the mod wheel imo

[@ijskolibrietje]

agreed, I'm trying to change it in m4l but i'm not proficient at that at all.

[@alexey5602]

no modwheel by default? :(

[@ChunkySq]

SLightly off topic. I was wondering if it is possible to have the logitech pro joystick be used a midi controller in order to control hardware music gear such as the MPC one. I have seen many videos on using PlayStation controllers to control midi in software DAWs such as Ableton. My imagination is running wild here haha. Any ideas?

[@user12many]

i like how he has the exact same mousemat, mouse and keyboard as me lmao

[@FredBloggs919]

Hi what’s that controller bottom left that looks like a makeup case? Cheers!

[@hi-he5cx]

I can't record using this. Any suggest?

[@ApolloMclaren]

Please add support for controllers mapped by steam. I have a steam deck that I use steam layout to control ableton with and in midi mode i have a generic joystick control on the right stick which I want to make pitch bend. The controller doesnt show up in the found devices though :(

[@johnjohn8437]

Thanks for this man!!! A very Useful tool. thanks for the time to make it. :) john 3:16

[@petedako]

…nice work with a PS3 controller 🙏 YAY! … maybe the pressure AT is/was the 'vibroshock' feature from PS3… ideally, I'd like a Joystick that doesn't bounce back - ie stays where you put it - thinking of the X/Y macro parameters on U-HE plug-in synths

[@JacobLouis]

Feature request: Rather than two pitch bends on the Xbox controller, you could have pitch bend and mod wheel.

[@JacobLouis]

I bought an Xbox One S and tried on two different controllers but it wasn’t mapping the same and just sent a constant stream of notes. If anyone knows why let me know.

[@Il-Cane]

me too @@JacobLouis

[@chivo2808]

hi... grettings from Mexico, i hve a lot of fun, playing with a generic joystick, in the drum rack i re ordered the samples positions for simplicity and plays just fine. Then i recorded, seems to be recorded well, but there is not sounds when i playback the record part again. what i am doing wrong? Thanks for sharing---😀

[@chintimin]

How do I record a track with this? it keeps coming up blank

[@empty_headed]

any deadzone adjustment? my sticks are quite sensitive and will spam midi notes when i lightly shake my controller.

[@AudiogameOfficial]

Hey Kaskobi, great video! But my any of my controller generate continuos random signal in Live 11 I'm pretty sure this is not for dust or else, are pretty clean Have you any suggestion? I'm on Big Sure 11.4 connected via bluetooth Thanks in advance!

[@disruptINC]

im having the same problems

[@disruptINC]

any fix ?

[@noclippingfrequencies7136]

I am having this problem too with my dualshock ps3, its like 3 buttons are continuously pressed and like you i have sure its not a broken joystick or dusted!

[@Jguerra0392]

Whenever I use the Max device it just creates a jittery glitch sound and signal loop until I turn off whatever midi instrument I'm using.

[@AlbertoBalsalme]

Same thing here when I pick the right controller's name in the dropdown menu (in my case "DualSense Wireless Controller", it's a PS5 con). I have a software that allows me to use it as if it were a Xbox controller (DS4 windows), which allows me to choose that option in the plugin's menu, and doing so fixes the feedback issues. I'd recommend trying this software if you're using a PS controller (or lookout if there's anything similar for whatever gamepad you're using) and see if it helps you too. Nevertheless, it would be great if the uploader could let us know if there's a proper solution to this major bug! Also, regardless of the controller type option I select in the plugin, my analog are only sending midi notes, not pitch bend. Hope we can get some solutions to fix this as this opens doors to a lot of fun ways to play music!

[@Jguerra0392]

@@AlbertoBalsalme I'm trying to do this with a Xbox compatible Thrustmaster HOTAS controller though.

[@omargd7834]

Hey kaskobi, When BloodLust?

[@tguhfuk-gaming]

Try playing some game with that controller

[@officialhooded]

Lame

[@elfiankhuzairi23]

Giveaways launchpad pro??? Hehehe

[@lucasrichard1832]

I know that this is a shot in the dark since the video is from one year ago, but I just cant make the gamepad work... when I drag the effect instead of showing the pad it actually just shows my plugin file path and a button that says "open max windows". I dont know what to do

[@13StJimmy]

Does this only work with ableton or will it work with other DAWs as well?

[@gregmichaelsKJV]

thank you

[@hugochan550]

Do you have to use ableton live 10 suite for the project files that you can download on the website to work? I've got lite from getting the launchpad mk2 and whenever i try and open the files, it says something about lights or something. Probs a newbie question but help would be appreciated pls? Edit: Pretty sure its a plug in or something that I don't have downloaded maybe?

[@hugochan550]

@@PiLaunchpad o thx

[@beseakos]

pitch bend is not working in the pre-configured way on an xbox one controller in win11, I'm not very good with m4l devices so I have no idea how to change that, anyone else having the same issue? (also no deadzones make it really hard to use any analog inputs without making noise)

[@BibleStorm]

Same with me. The sticks and triggers send midi note on/off signals instead of CC values. Not sure how to fix it.

[@poose]

Would this work with most bluetooth devices or controllers? Like lets say I just needed 1 button to turn off an on an effect. could I just map a bluetooth button with this Max device?

[@skngfrg]

probably but with latency

[@Jay-ov8oz]

hi, my switch controller is detected in the m4l plugin, but nothing is working and my LEDs on my pro controller keep flashing left to right even though it says it is connected

[@AKMC18]

I remebered you while you're playing a launchpad...

[@Bumble_V_Ghost-Gaming]

i can't even get it to start. it keeps crashing Ableton. why?

[@punishedf]

360 seens to have a different configuration, it works but the joystick doesn't control the pitch or modulation... or I'm doing something wrong.

[@Paul-nu4dj]

Is the SteamController coming?

[@BOLD_PLAYZ]

Please make a song with these

[@choishoong]

Three commercials in a row. Got it.

[@ianmaczura1521]

What version of ableton is this?

[@michaelkhanmusic]

ps5 controller via bluetooth work?

[@mastermusic5351]

idk if this vid is still relavant but im on live 12 and this might be outdated because it keeps freezing whenever I choose my xbox controller.

[@iamjamakami]

Same with 11. It recognizes my PS5 controller then hangs indefinitely, requiring a force quit.

[@wespenwald1297]

Always a bit scared when things don't get updates - updates? :D

[@sparky3690]

So wait it doesn’t work with Lite ? ☹️

[@maxxlight9914]

Any ideas why the device keeps emitting random continuous low notes signal?

[@grenadinementalo]

I have the same thing, with a guitar hero controller. Found out it was linked to the detection of movements of the controller !

[@AlbertoBalsalme]

​@@grenadinementalohave you found any way to de-activate the motion detection?

[@jjevokn]

Does this work in reaper?

[@BasicRide]

Can you make a “Bella Ciao” remix on the launch pad please!!

[@キュイ裁判]

Are you lascadelpapel fans ?

[@BasicRide]

キュイ裁判 no?

[@danielsaintmusic]

Alright sick, now play warzone with midi fighter 64

[@harry.lincoln]

for some reason I cant record into midi

[@aozy6951]

♥️

[@MrBubbles5576]

Yooo i have the same steel series rgb mouse pad

[@zardaboi2652]

We need update for ableton 11

[@eliasiturra3185]

Eres el papu de papus

[@natureboundSnow]

LIGHTSABER

[@MrBananafiend]

Why are all your videos suddenly blocked in my country? Im from Denmark and i cant see any of then other than this one

[@jayjames1165]

Nice, definitely just got a sub from me. I have this set up going already, but does anyone know of a m4l controller device that centers around parameter control/sound design rather than notes.

[@Azfc_0]

Bro do you have a discord

[@dazukodtm]

yes

[@Azfc_0]

@@dazukodtm [¤FS¤] Yo#9272

[@dnx_x1012]

😱🖤

[@Androlys_]

Please play music (melody) with game controller !!!!

[@puma-animations4676]

If you use that app and you are a pro player and you are playing a game

[@Stradlater25]

666's like is mine

[@prdobymat]

now the xbox controller covers are coming, launchpads are now useless! :D

[@aaronbones4290]

This is exactly what we all did back when we were kids Without daws 😂😂 pure imagination 😂😂

[@miniAda123]

No longer works with newer versions of ableton

[@iamjamakami]

Just tried with 11 - Really bummed about this, I wanted to try using it with my arcade stick. I reached out on their website in hopes of getting some response about an update.

[@scottishrandy7923]

try using a steam controller

[@a-molovanernestd.6816]

Play games using launchpad

[@immanex]

It seems like someone is bored of Launchpad content XD Sponsoring went down ? XD

[@Necky]

DEFINITELY, AND THAT'S SO SAD T.T

[@pondrickbyzle9445]

haha

[@aceattorney6046]

ثيمبمبينرمىكل да ладно я прикалываюсь(((

[@lifeisntagodardfilm]

Bruh Bruh Bruh Bruh Bruh Bruh Bruh Bruh Bruh Bruh Bruh Bruh Bruh Bruh

[@DrEndemic]

When you can't afford an launchpad

[@butterfly.oficial]

Xd

[@MattBonk991]

Bruh

[@Hitacium]

That lazy to see you still do a sponsor of mélodic

[@mannam3306]

Ableton becomes unresponsive after I choose my Xbox wireless controller. Any tips about how fix the problem, I’ve tried different versions but the results are the same