Controversial Ending in Sharks vs Blues Game Three

Yeah, we are going to have to talk about this one too.
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[@Jazz-Singher]

The unfortunate thing is, there is no argument, it simply shouldn't have been a goal, the play should've been blown dead. Garry Galley said it best, "this was a fantastic game and it shouldn't have ended this way"

[@fcyggcghhfhchcychhxhchqdbd3324]

Never have I ever been so disappointed at a win

[@Christoph5782]

hiphopstar765 You can make a case that the puck touched Bouwmeester before the Sharks player played the puck. Don't know how far you'd get, but you could pretend to make a case for it

[@fcyggcghhfhchcychhxhchqdbd3324]

I’ve seen it in .25 speed, but it’s debatable.

[@taylorwoolston8856]

It was an incidental bounce, that may've also hit a Blue.

[@SMG2fanatic]

Lol get outta here @St Kr it’s called a penalty kill I don’t know if Vegas knew that. Also Vegas had 2 chances to close it out before.

[@jessenicoletta4160]

I don't want refs calling or not calling things they don't see, I want them reviewing these plays. If the rules were that it could be reviewed, neither of those calls would be as controversial.

[@tacofop600]

That's the thing, if we have to choose a lesser of two evils, then yeah, I prefer the refs not changing the call if they didn't actually see it, I can live with that more than just winging it based on circumstantial evidence. But ultimately, what the fans want is for the right call to be made, and like Marchessault said after the Vegas call, it's a fast game and clearly sometimes the refs need help. Expand replay to make more of these calls reviewable to avoid having situations like this happen what seems like every game.

[@barneyblue7355]

I agree with this but only for the playoffs

[@jessenicoletta4160]

@Masa That's not how the ruling would work though. It could be they can challenge a play and if the call stands, it is a minor penalty. Why is it that you can challenge for an offsides goal or goalie interference, but when something like a hand pass happens it can't be reviewed?

[@Kshea44ify]

The question is: How didn't you see that? It's not like it was away from the play. It WAS the play.

[@keepingitreel...8037]

@Masa - JUST GOALS and potential goals Not every call. . .

[@edgaralonzo314]

Damn I love this new column format on the reviews

[@rawzuccsauce4202]

Edgar Alonzo me too!!

[@fireforce9706]

The Hockey Guy is evolving

[@UnknownPerson-ge9yf]

It’s sexy isn’t it

[@jamespolnick]

The only thing i wish, is that the writing was a bit bigger, but i guess its for him to read not us lol.

[@MKRacerDude]

It’s great!

[@RIS3N1]

I'm a sharks fan and I can't even be happy about this win. This just makes the league look terrible and I feel for the blues

[@wilnerolivier7971]

If this keeps continuing!! The Sharkies will become the villains in the sport.

[@smithryansmith]

thanks, at least. Some of your bretheren are not so rational.

[@thomaslatimer571]

I just can’t believe it so I tune in to see the Hockey Guy Reaction

[@fireforce9706]

True lol

[@Itsloco314]

Pretty much

[@hatrickane]

The NHL needs to change the concept of "non reviewable" plays caz this is what happens. Maybe it can just be done for a quick look like you touched on Shannon, but there could be many cons in doing that idk anymore 🤣

[@jarink1]

What makes it worse is that every rink shows replays on the scoreboard. The crowd sees replays of the missed calls, the players see the missed calls and I'll bet even the officials see the missed calls. And there's nothing anyone can do about these missed calls because of the way video replay is implemented by the NHL.

[@gnolls]

@@jarink1 Since it's essentially going down the lines of everyone wants everything to be reviewable and that simply isn't possible, I'd say it would be better if we got rid of video review altogether. Except for perhaps to determine if the puck is in or not. It's basically all or nothing and for the entertainment value of a fast game not hindered by lengthy reviews, I'd choose nothing.

[@10.11.9]

@@gnolls Your point is a fair one, however, if we are going to have video review, every controversial call should be reviewed in OT and during the last three minutes (roughly) of regulation (imho).

[@vooswing]

The easy solution is let the coach review be allowed on anything, they are still limited to one (could become two) a game so it doesn’t slow the game down but on a horrible call like this there is a way to review it.

[@bull79]

@@vooswing I dont know why they just dont alter the rule 78.8; the last minute of the 3rd period and anytime in OT the NHL automatically reviews all goals that are within the coaches challenge, all they have to do is look at the goal, guaranteed the NHL looked at the goal as it happened just because they will to save time, if they just look at all goals in that rule instead of ones that are coaches challenge it would fix these issues.

[@BoyNamedSue4]

I don’t have a team in this anymore. But this is absolutely ridiculous.

[@darreollmooney6881]

BoyNamedSue4...neither do I but I'm more for the Blues and the game ending like that is pure NHL officiating BS.

[@andrewwisner7134]

Time to send those damn zebras back to the Serengeti where they belong.

[@exeter1985]

Agreed. My question is why the NFL reviews all scoring plays, MLB has review available for any and all calls, the NBA has review available for something even like a flagrant foul. The NHL alone is the only one that has non-reviewable calls. Also when every television network shows a puck that clearly crossed the goal line, we hear about how they have this 'secret view' that is only available to the NHL? If it proves that they are correct and that the officials got a call right, why wouldn't you want to show it to the World? Sorry for ranting on your comment, I couldn't help myself.

[@samuelfrick3475]

The league needs to revise the hand pass rule where it can review goals for a possible hand pass as long as there was no stoppages in between via penalty icing goalie covers puck period ends etc

[@wisewolftony]

@@darreollmooney6881 You can't really blame the officials there was only one of them in any sort of position to even be able to see that play yet his view was completely blocked off by the Blues player in front of Timo. It's the review process that is the problem as despite the fact that none of the refs had a good view at all and didn't see the hand pass its not something they can go back and look at. And even if they go and talk to HQ in Toronto they can't tell them that yea it was a hand pass.

[@cubeofbeef1972]

Welp i usually ignore people who say that a game was decided by the refs. But this is the most brutal non call I’ve ever seen in my whole life.

[@lancelowery4027]

Yes it was

[@richardeast3328]

Four people on the ice to officiate the game, you think one would kind of watch the puck, especially in O.T.

[@samuelfrick3475]

This postseason has been the most frustrating I’ve experienced. In past years, I only complained like 3-4 penalties in the playoffs. I’ve watched NHL hockey for over a decade. This postseason alone, I would argue I’ve complained at the refs on at least 6 different instances called or not called

[@wilnerolivier7971]

Was it the refs fault that the Blues missed an open net that would've picked the game?? Was it the refs fault that the Blues kept icing the puck with a minute left in the game??

[@f.n04]

It hit Bouwmeester

[@davidcorica9972]

My complaint isnt with the sharks or the refs, its with the league. How are these plays not reviewable, but offsides is? If the league wanted to adopt a 0-review policy and simply live with mistakes, we could accept that and just deal with the fallout. But clearly review is an option, and this call was easy, important, and unfortunately 100% incorrect. Its a fast game...if we have the technology to review, and the policies in place for review, why not empower the refs to get the calls right on these types of plays?

[@keepingitreel...8037]

Especially an OT playoff goal! Personally I think all goals, or potential goals, should be automatically reviewed, and if a flaw has been detected by the NHL, play is stopped and the call on the ice has been overturned. Then show what they saw on the replay scoreboard. The NFL reviews all Touchdowns to get it right! The reason I said, 'potential goals' above, was because in a recent Bruin's game, the Carolina goaltender clearly caught the puck in his Trapper, and then rolled inside his net. The glove, with puck in it, did not, "just barely" go over the goal line. It almost touched the back of the net. That should have absolutely been counted as a Bruin's goal! Just because a goalie has caught the puck, doesn't necessarily make it a, "save." Then a puck clearly goes up into the protective netting, comes back down and ends up in the back of the Bruin's net, and IS counted as a good goal. Unbelievable! (But at least the Bruins still won. St Louis has the Blues for a legitimate reason. . . Again, every goal, or potential goal should be reviewed, even if play continues. If a discrepancy is discovered, fix it. Get it Right!

[@skreech9144]

I love the sharks but that was an awful call. Those plays need to he reviewable. A play like that does no good hockey. I love that we won but we shouldnt have on that goal.

[@JoseAguilar-cm4gc]

fax, a terrible way to win, refs robbed us of a great game

[@SiMan128]

Completely agree. I feel the sharks had more of the momentum in overtime and they would have scored first regardless. It’s just an awful feeling when you win on a bad call. Refs robbed the Sharks of a fulfilling win. The Sharks also lost quite a few games due to missed/ poor calls in the post season. It’s just of the part of the game now and more things need to be reviewable.

[@RandomGuyCDN]

NHL says they can review plays of possible goals that happened a minute before and blow the game down. Cant go to toronto to review crucial calls in playoffs games. Well played NHL.

[@smithryansmith]

@@SiMan128 They could have admitted to the hand pass, then won it fairly. they wouldnt even admit after the game, fucking pricks.

[@scottcalloway4630]

@@smithryansmith welcome to the game

[@sliverbick8044]

As a Sharks fan, that was a hand pass.

[@melasvarco4791]

Isidro Vargas sure but they didn't see it...

[@taylorwoolston8856]

It was an incidental bounce, that may've also hit a Blue.

[@jacklaker1939]

Isidro Vargas I’m also a sharks fan and I agree that was a bad call.

[@melasvarco4791]

Bobby Wilson glad your eyes work!

[@dbetzel1]

@@taylorwoolston8856 It was deflected by a hand in a way that led to an advantage for the Sharks. It's a hand pass unless a Blues player possesses the puck. They didn't.

[@topgun9666]

Shannon, you're right. I am a Vegas fan. I am really salty at the Sharks. BUT I don't blame them. And as far as the refs, HOW THE HELL DO THEY KEEP MISSING THESE. I understand they didn't see it, but how did they NOT see it. 2 refs and 2 linesmen and none of them were watching the puck? How? Seems like so many of these blown calls are the refs not paying attention to the play.

[@ThatsARapp1]

I agree, its not like they are calling a penalty, its an easy call to make just blow it dead but no

[@stupidas9466]

Dan E refs were in the right position, looking at the play, and at the last moment four different players moved into the direct line of sight of the four different officials. Terrible luck for both the officials and the blues. No malice, no incompetence. They would have disallowed the goal on review if review was allowed on the play.

[@dannyblau3850]

As a Sharks fan....it is baffling. It's where the puck was. I mean, i get there was a lot of players kind of around the play and especially someone like Boumeester isn't the easiest to see around or through, but you ARE a professional Ref in the NHL. Getting yourself in position and at least one of you should be watching the puck and what is going on around it. But just like earlier in the game, one of them should have seen the delay of game, Perron is actually the one who committed that and he was the one who scored the game tying goal when he should have been in the box. In the case of the headshot, that might have been the most startling one. They had a replay of it where Braun just flat out gets drilled in the jaw. The ref was staring at it and put his whistle away. Delay of Game and hand passes should absolutely be reviewable and i don't think that goal should have counted. I have seen the sharks over the years get some really rough calls against them including a series ender/loser that was totally baffling from the officiating stand point, so i totally get it. But like you said...you can't blame them. The players don't make the calls, they just have to react to and play through them good or bad. The sharks have had a handful of bad ones this playoff run that either went against them or went uncalled and they played through them and didn't make excuses for them. They have 2 that went in their favor. The Vegas one, even Pavelski himself came out and said he didn't think it should have been a 5, but was obviously happy it did because it cracked the window open for them slightly. But as we are reminded, This is part of professional sports. Every single one of them don't seem to get everything right and it really sucks when your team is on the short end of a call.

[@bdenver601]

Stu Pidas the goal line ref had one blue maybe partially blocking the view but looked to me like he had a pretty clear line to see a player swing his hand and a puck go from falling straight down to deflecting right into the slot should have enough to deduce that a hand pass happened. The eakin play changed it all though cause the refs don’t want backlash for using their brains too, now they are only allowed to rely on their eyes. Scoring plays need to be reviewable with a a time limit. Won’t slow the game down much, hell just use a commercial time out and soo many of these clear calls can be corrected

[@bdenver601]

Danny Blau the officiating as a whole this playoffs seems to have been pretty poor on all fronts, the sharks have just been on the good side of some major game changing calls/missed calls so its drawn much more attention.

[@hatrickane]

I love how so many people criticized Couture's contract extension last offseason saying how 8M was too much money. Look at him now...14 goals in the postseason and he ain't slowing down.

[@PRYVTgomerPYLE]

Yeah, what chaps my ass is the fact that Willy fucking Nylander is making more... To be a fucking potato in the NHL, then put 5 points up in a Swede jersey. Totally worth that 9 mil. :/ I'd take Logan Couture any day of the week!

[@darthdra133]

hatrickane 8 is a steal 😂😂😂

[@HarryRiceHockey]

8 million is still too much for him

[@darthdra133]

Harry Rice just wait till you see how much skinner is going to sign for

[@hatrickane]

@@HarryRiceHockey For a consistent playoff performer...no way. The regular season isn't everything just saying.

[@danielmulno]

I am not a Blues or a Sharks fan but I think anytime the puck ends up in the net it should be reviewed, every goal should be video checked just like football. It really does not take that much time in the NFL and shouldn't here.

[@soulflaya2271]

Daniel Mulno right?!

[@kyleklem4045]

Agreed I think the NHL is going to have to change some rules for the game, I agree all goals should be reviewable and so should any play that causes injury, the complaint I have heard about more reviews is it slows the game, but if I guy is down on the ice the game is stopped might as well take the chance to get the call right. And goals most goals won't take long to check only a few will.

[@danielmulno]

@@kyleklem4045 yeah, I understand the game getting slowed down, but I'd rather the game be 15 minutes longer and a much higher percentage of calls be right then a game be decided by a non-reviewable play that should have been overturned. Right now a standard three period hockey game with no overtime takes about 2 hours and 45 minutes, making it 3 hours for more accuracy on calls is worth it.

[@skinflutey]

But how far back in the review do you go? In the NFL it makes sense because it’s one play. In the nhl would you go all the way back to the last stoppage?

[@tmtmtlsml]

How about this as a solution: give each team three challenges, but still only one timeout. If any of the challenges isn't successful, they lose their timeout AND any remaining challenges they might still have, and make ALL potential goals/penalties reviewable? That seems like a fair balance to me

[@isaiahwince4261]

That was an embarrassing win

[@Buckybuttermaker]

Isaiah Wince wins a win 🦈

[@gymrat2647]

Cheating sharks

[@JoseAguilar-cm4gc]

@@gymrat2647 you'd be stupid to think the sharks are actually cheating, refs are just terrible

[@Dom-um4wz]

Damien Garrett the sharks still got the goal to go to ot

[@wisewolftony]

@@JoseAguilar-cm4gc Honestly I would say the review process is terrible seeing how that can't review something like this. The refs to me had no view of this play only one ref was in front of the play with an actual view to see it yet his view was blocked by a Blues player between him and Timo. So the refs to me did the correct thing none of them saw it so how can they call it. To me this is all on Toronto and the fact that they deem this something that can't be reviewed as the refs would have for sure called no goal if they could actually go back and look at the play. Yet even when they went to Toronto their was no benefit as the people in Toronto for something that isn't reviewable aren't allowed to tell them yea it was a handpass so no goal instead all they can say is what did you guys see nothing well then you have to allow it.

[@zeedevel7141]

I still dont get why Toronto cant tell the refs wat happened on these controversial goals. Every goal should be confirmed by the league, like the NFL does. But only if the play results in a goal in the same zone attack. Once the puck leaves the zone its off the table. Im not even a Blues fan n i felt robbed

[@godridesponys]

that's because the NFL plays fewer games than NHL it would be very hard to be able to review multiple games at the same time during the regular season

[@aaronb6878]

@@godridesponys A reffing mistake in the regular season has significantly fewer repercussions than in the WCF

[@zeedevel7141]

Just playoffs then if they're too cheap to use more retired officials in the vid room. I dont think they appreciate how valuable even 1 goal is in Hockey, this isnt basketball.If your gonna use replay then fricken use it please

[@WinRing86]

The best sport with some of the worst procedures for enforcing the rules. It’s painful

[@jarink1]

Makes you wonder how many apologies the NHL is going to make to teams this postseason.

[@strikefirst5650]

The fact the nhl "apologized" to the kbights is a dam joke

[@bluesfan2611]

Shannon I feel like this is going to become one of your top 10 videos like the other Sharks one

[@goldnintendo1281]

Blues Fan Are you an oilers fan?

[@bluesfan2611]

GoldNintendo um no I’m a Blue fan

[@joshuafowler925]

Blues Fan really? Your name is oilers fan and Your picture looks like an oilers logo. lmao

[@Christoph5782]

I don't really understand why we have unreviewable plays. Like we've gone to far on offsides but still don't have review for this. Let's just make it to where anything that happens in the 5 seconds prior to the goal can be reviewed or something of that nature so that we can review anything that directly leads to a goal. Not an offsides from 3 minutes ago, but something like this or the Columbus goal that hit the netting. Though the issue with that time deadline would become "Did the illegal play that was missed happen at the 5 second mark or the 5.01 second mark?" which would create its own problems, but the basic idea still stands

[@Christoph5782]

Or even just let the refs look at the replay for any play if they go to a huddle as they couldn't make the call in real time

[@joshuafowler925]

Now imagine if this was the Stanley cup final.... nhl needs to get these blind zebras out of here.

[@muraahh]

what do we do if they're all blind? at this point it's not even the refs it's this joke of a league

[@Adam202]

This entire post-season is already ruined. The wrong team is in the Conference final. Vegas was robbed of their series, Colorado was robbed of their series, and now St. Louis is being robbed of their series. At this point I even feel bad for Sharks fans. Imagine being in the Conference final and knowing your team doesn't belong there.

[@chriswright5204]

Clayboi Parti Correct, what if this was a Stanley Cup deciding goal, call sucked, I can see if those refs do another game with the Blues a puck shot their way to see if they are watching this game.

[@brentmiller6414]

This comment hasn't aged very well

[@Adam202]

@@brentmiller6414 The hand pass play was much much worse. I don't think they even compare.

[@williamgray7268]

I think the blues should change their strategy. Maybe O’Reilly can just pick up the puck from the opening faceoff and carry it all the way to the sharks net and throw it in. As long as the refs are staring at their feet then it should be a good goal, right?

[@dominickrinaldi6727]

Lmao someone throwing the puck in the net IS reviewable, but i get the sentiment.

[@Itsloco314]

My...god...Im not going to talk about the obvious elephant in the room, but Jones STIFLED my blues in the 3rd my goodness

[@SiMan128]

Jones definitely found his game in the third. Started looking like Quick back in his prime.

[@daledemanchuk7920]

missing the empty net opportunities came back to haunt the blues....

[@maverick78550]

As a Blues fan, I hope that the Blues can put this behind them for game 4.

[@SMG2fanatic]

Nothing else they can do. If they even think about dwelling on it they’re as good as dead.

[@maverick78550]

SMG2fanatic that’s exactly what I fear.

[@enash8207]

I hope they put it behind them for game 6 because the sharks are Bums

[@Itsloco314]

Blues cant change it...It sucks how it ended...Keep the fire for game 4...Keep the pressure all game like the 2nd period

[@mazukakai]

They just keep playing their game and it'll even out for the Blues, because they got nothing on em 5V5

[@Navs126]

It’s so difficult being an NHL fan with these selectively blind -refs- and non reviewable plays.

[@splashnskillz37]

Oh we in the NBA have worse refs don't worry

[@stupidas9466]

EmilioLV126 not the refs fault at all, each one was in the right position but their view blocked at the last moment by another player.

[@Navs126]

Stu Pidas the missed calls went both ways

[@catherinelynnfraser2001]

I am just getting more and more pissed off.

[@Adam202]

This will forever be remembered as the Stanley Cup Playoffs that were played by the officials in stripes and not by the actual players themselves.

[@original6hockey402]

Not right that ref's, not teams decide outcome.

[@DreadX10]

Sadly, No, next season will be worse and then this one will be forgotten.

[@thanewage403]

Refs need fines for missed calls like this.

[@EVHlivesforever]

Honestly, that's a great idea!

[@brandonneff4096]

The NHL officiating has been horrendous these playoffs, cost the knights, cost the Avs, actively costing the Blues. Refs win the cup over Boston in 6.

[@underthelibertytree712]

You nailed it.

[@Rythems-]

Can hardly blame the refs for landescog being offside, get over your self

[@brandonneff4096]

@@Rythems- twitter.com/kylekeefetv/status/1126313638103584768?s=09

[@cnash9744]

Sharks have now been extremely lucky gifted calls in three crucially important games.

[@nova7747]

One*

[@ZombieFetcher]

@@nova7747 Three*

[@brittany3479]

It pisses me off

[@poejavelski148]

I agree with them getting on the right side of calls, but I wouldn't call this a crucially important game. Every game is important, but I don't consider a game that will end a 1-1 tie a crucial game.

[@zaboknowsbest13]

cnash97 the sharks were victim to many bad calls as well just not in gigantic key moments. Just how it goes sometimes.

[@pdubcentral]

Anybody else just enjoy what was an extremely action packed game, that left not a single dull moment? As a hockey fan, with my personal favourite teams all out, this series and particularly this game was insane! The kind of game where it seemed if you blinked you’d miss something. Feels like this should be the final, I hope one of these teams wins the cup, but for now I’m going to enjoy the heck out of this series that was exhilarating!!

[@pakkie27]

Damn how many breaks are the sharks gonna get. At this point, just hand the smythe and cup to joe right now

[@pakkie27]

NY Devil u don’t deserve a cup, as much as they’ve succeeded over the years, teams that beat them were just simply better tbh.

[@blake6992]

Reviewable plays has to be added especially in the playoffs. I don’t know what is going on this year but the refs are terrible. I mean they are always terrible but this is a whole new level.

[@mattmlo12]

It's been pretty much the storyline of every series... Absolutely ridiculous

[@SMG2fanatic]

I agree. Eat your heart out, nfl

[@redstar9657]

NFL reviews all touchdown in the last 2 min of the game the NHL should at least review all overtime goals.

[@laxg64]

The refs always suck in the playoffs when your team loses. I'll refer you to urinating tree.

[@Blatty26]

Red Star965 The NFL actually reviews every scoring play. At all points in the game. Every play is only reviewable in the final two minutes

[@ElectronicMoose]

If you're going to go back, go back to game 2 Sharks/Golden Knights for the GI call.

[@soad550]

Missed call in game 4 sharks vs avs on Erik Karlsson too. Would have given the sharks a 5 on 3 powerplay.

[@droppincodes]

But using your fandoms argument on the phantom 5min major, you should've killed the penalty...

[@andrewhamp2893]

I'm a bit of a Sharks fan, and there's a bitter taste in my mouth. I'd love to see Karlsson, Thornton, Burns, Couture, etc win a cup, but not like this. Sure, Vegas shouldn't have allowed four goals on a five minute major, yes Landeskog was offside, and I guess the refs didn't want to call what they didn't see tonight, but these aren't convincing victories for the Sharks. It took them seven games to beat the seventh and eighth seeds, and then only with some lucky calls. At this point, I'm cheering for the Blues. We should start a pool on what quirky call/rule will result in the Sharks' next game 7 victory... I'm gonna go with: Jones stick handles the puck past the center ice line a-la Patrick Roy... but the refs don't see it. Making it to the blue line, he then picks up the puck and throws it over Binnington, into the netting... But the refs still don't see it... The puck somehow falls into the slot, where a Blues' defenseman tries to clear it. However the puck is redirected by an oddly placed linesman into the skates of Karlsson, and into the net. Please forgive any spelling errors.

[@edwardofgreene]

Then St. Louis fans shrug and say "Yep. Just Blues things." Followed by a few weeks of crippling depression and zombie like existence.

[@Adam202]

I shouldn't be surprised that there are Sharks fans who truly believe they deserved to win this game, but I can understand why they are trying to tell themselves that. There is a huge difference between a goal that is scored on the play of a blown call, and an opportunity that is missed because of a blown call. The difference is between a goal that was actually scored, and merely an opportunity to score. Missing a call is bad, and missing a call on a play that a goal was scored on is horribly bad! If I have to spell out the difference for you any more than that then you will never get it. This entire Sharks post-season has been a complete mockery of the sport at this point, and that is exactly how it will be remembered until the end of time. I honestly feel sorry for objective Sharks fans as much as I feel sorry for the fans whose teams were robbed of games and of their series. The degree to which the NHL is failing both the teams and the fans is way too damn high. This entire post season is tainted and rotten beyond all repair.

[@Adam202]

Additionally, I just want to make it clear that I think the Sharks are a great team. They absolutely do have as much skill and talent as any of the other conference finalists. This entire situation is a sh*t show, and the Sharks organization, players, and fans deserved so much better than this. Something drastic needs to change in the way the NHL officiates games. It's time to actually used some of the great technology we have at our fingertips. This post-season didn't have to be this way.

[@BeastVisions]

After seeing that terrible missed call on the ice the nhl has to make hand passes reviewable for next year. I was bothered by that play and I'm not even a fan of either team.

[@hollytempest1327]

ALEX451 Idk if this is sarcasm, but I swear idc what anyone says, I’m convinced Bouwmeester could’ve got to that puck before or at the same time as Nyquist. NO ONE defended Karlsson in front of the net. Binnington didn’t make the save. There’s more to this play than Timo Meier’s hand, but I’m not expecting any of that to be talked about. I’m sure the Blues will win game 4, and I expected this series to go 7 anyway.

[@VeinerSnitzle]

@@hollytempest1327 If you want to look at it that way you also have to consider that Bouw and/or other players make a different play or move to different positions all based on Meier falling down and being basically out of the play. You cant cherry pick the play and say they wouldnt have reacted differently.

[@hollytempest1327]

MachmanRandy31 Oh, I’m just saying I think there was a whole lot going on here. Tbh, after all I’ve seen the Sharks go through, I’ll take the cup off a fucking kick into the net. Judge me all you want 😂😂😂

[@smithryansmith]

@@hollytempest1327 because his hand negates everything else. Why is that hard to understand? nothing in the rules talks about "if an opposing player could have gotten to the puck first". Just stop.

[@hollytempest1327]

smithryansmith “Just stop”... sorry for having a different view then you. Lmfao what do you even care what someone else thinks? 😂😂😂

[@TwistedWristerHockey]

I guess this series is now...Meier'd in controversy.

[@thehockeyson]

Oh god

[@keepingitreel...8037]

Yeah, the entire playoffs has had many, many issues this year. They used to be very rare, but now they are averaging, nearly 1 per period. Remember the days of 1 referee and 2 linesman? How did they even do it? Perhaps a few more should be added, like football. . . NHL Rule change for the 2019-20 season: On ice officials: Rule 1.234 There shall be 1 linesman on each blue line, for a total of 2. There shall be 1 referee on each goal line, for a total of 2. There shall be 1 referee at each face off dot, for a total of 9. There shall be 1 referee inside each goal, for a total of 2. Off ice officials: Rule 1.235 There shall be 1 referee in each penalty box, for a total of 2. There shall be 1 referee on the Zamboni, for a total of 1 There shall be 1 referee on a ladder, just above the glass, every 10 feet, for a total of 60. And a grand total of 78. Each official shall stay focused, and wear working body cams as well as helmet cams, and a loud whistle.

[@jacobrasmussen2389]

Maybe the NHL could reazlize that every goal scored in the playoffs needs to be reviewable.

[@DM0407]

This is the best solution. Get rid of coaches challenge and review each goal, it only takes 30 seconds.

[@jasonsteigerwald2321]

Clearly a hand pass, they missed calls on the blues as well. Game winning OT goals I feel should be reviewable. Thornton played great for the sharks.

[@RyanJ8]

Lol the game winning goal was reviewed by the war room. But the war room cant do anything about a hand pass. They look at onside , goalie interference, puck completely crossing the line.

[@markfarrell5204]

This is the last game I will watch this postseason. My team didn't even make it to the playoffs and it's not worth the frustration to watch this happen over and over again.

[@darreollmooney6881]

Mark Farrell...same hear. Avs are out and the 4 teams left aren't any of my favorites but I am hoping the Blues win...looks like that's getting harder to expect. My interest is waning here...I'm ready for October and a new fantasy team season.

[@BoyNamedSue4]

If the Sharks win the cup, it’s going to be foot in crease on overdrive. Mark my words.

[@nauseousqueasy]

foot in the crease is legal now

[@Roger-le1bv]

If they take the cup, I know I won't ever let it die when talking to sharks fans....

[@zalapski9399]

Doesn’t matter. The NHL and other pro sports leagues like when these horrific calls are made. It means the NHL will be trending on twitter and get discussed on NHL. Bad calls don’t turn fans away, it makes the sport more popular.

[@zalapski9399]

Asterics won’t mean shit unfortunately

[@underthelibertytree712]

@@bbeaup 3 for sure. Make it an even 4 for next series....

[@WichitaChiefSam]

As a Blues fan, I have never been less inclined to watch hockey than I am right now. That’s saying a lot.

[@cmd31220]

How is a hand pass leading to a goal not reviewable? It's the same as any other infraction. These playoffs have been great but holy crap the officiating has been a joke

[@nabokovfan87]

Thumbs up to the second half of your comment. Play is not reviewable because it did not cause the goal. The puck did not go off a players hands into the net or deflect off a player. It was clearly shot into the net. They cannot review anything prior to a goal just because there is an issue. If the goal itself was controversial (interference, didn't cross the line, high stick, etc.) then that is reviewed.

[@cmd31220]

@@nabokovfan87 but they can review a possible offside that leads to a goal. Why is this a y different?

[@nabokovfan87]

@@cmd31220 think of it like NFL, when they review a td to make sure the player had his feet in and possession. Essentially, you don't want to reward a team if they didn't actually get in. They will verify the catch, but not check for holding and that cannot be reviewed or challenged. Now think about hockey, if you have an offsides, you have a play where the player who is offsides has an advantage that others do not. You, by the very nature of the game, shouldn't be allowed to sit in front of the goalie and just wait for the puck or skate ahead of the puck to chip a guy, any other scenarios where the play ahead of the puck dramatically impacts the defensive play. Offsides is reviewable simply because of that disadvantage and wanting to keep the game fair. The hand pass can be argued, offsides isn't subjective, it's very clear.

[@josiegradwohl106]

@@nabokovfan87 You make a good point about the nature of an offside review in the case that someone is parking in front of the goalie or has an inherent advantage over the defense, but the offside review in the SJ/COL game is where I take issue with the review process. Colorado was offside by a fraction and the player was heading off of the ice, so it can't be argued that Colorado had any advantage over the San Jose defense, yet it was overturned because it fell in line with the rules. I'm not arguing that it shouldn't have been called, but it points to how inconsistent the review process is in the current rulebook. If an offside call can be so cut and dry in the review process, I don't see why we can't expand the review process to cover goal scoring and any calls that Toronto can prove the refs got wrong with the replay. As a Blues fan I'm obviously enraged about the hand pass last night, but the refs also missed a delay of game penalty on the Blues for the puck that went out of play. Hockey is such a fast paced game that expecting the refs to see everything isn't realistic, which is why I think the replays and reviews in Toronto should be utilized more. The most important thing on these calls is that we (as fans) know that they are fair, and there has been a overwhelming number of calls this postseason that have been wrong which have had a dramatic impact on the outcome of the game and even the series.

[@nabokovfan87]

@@josiegradwohl106 Colorado had 6 on the ice

[@connormadden182]

We didn’t ask for referees to not call what they don’t see. We asked that the league review crucial plays like this one.

[@lucrativelyrics2004]

(the league didn't ask for fans' opinions..

[@darreollmooney6881]

Connor Madden...how about maybe Meier manning up knowing they scored on a hand pass? Rantanen owned up to a 'kicked in' goal that WAS re-viewable.

[@tomunderwood238]

You're right.

[@6Snaus]

Yes, it was a hand pass and the goal should've been waved off. As a Sharks fan, that's clear as day. But don't act like the Sharks weren't screwed by a few game changing calls earlier in the game. Perron's delay of game was just as obvious and wasn't called. He then scored 2 goals when he should've been in the box. Then Blais gets away with a shoulder to the head of Braun that was similar to McAvoy's hit. And even on the hand pass goal, Meier was tripped before, which partly caused the hand pass. Even if the goal is disallowed, it should've resulted in a power play. So the Sharks got a lucky break and the timing has been unreal, but they're getting just as many bad calls as the other teams.

[@rickus7843]

Don't forget Hayley taking a monster slash on the wrist with no call, then the call for tripping shortly after at the other end.

[@Nopenotatall]

You know it’s bad when sharks fans say they didn’t want to win this way. The nhl needs to get a grip on this bs

[@JustBob-sw4rf]

Inept officiating, but it was Petrangelo’s inept play on the tying goal with his two icings that put them in that position in the first place. Petrangelo’s decisions with the puck these playoffs leave a LOT to be desired in many critical situations. Not acceptable for a supposed No. 1 defenseman. I don’t care how many offensive points he earns.

[@everydaycarry1328]

I'm sorry but I'm not a fan of Pietrangelo, for $6mill per ok ....but definitely not $8 or $9 million per!! Parayko is much better imo.

[@everydaycarry1328]

Bob Crull He's not the number one defenseman anymore.

[@bobbobo3262]

As a Blues fan, I came here hoping to be calmed down even though I knew I would be told how it is (and I was - he just has a way of soothing you even when it's a loss you didn't want lol). And yeah, the missed delay of game penalty even had me scratching my head. Just gotta hope we can rebound and play a fierce game on Friday. Hopefully next year they allow refs to review these things. Can't believe they don't already.

[@passingdrill4942]

The Sharks are now 6-1 while the Blues are 0-4 in games this season where Marc Joannette has officiated. This can’t be a coincidence.

[@papaskazoo5860]

WillCraftPlays why? what are you implying?

[@TheNolimitcity]

Real tough to continue watching NHL after the way this postseason has gone. A lot of missed calls leaves a cloud over the legitimacy of the competition. NHL better improve their product if they want to be taken seriously.

[@TheHockeyGuy]

This happens every year.

[@ShadowExe007Vageta]

The Hockey Guy Yeah, I agree, and that is part of the problem

[@ShadowExe007Vageta]

In my opinion, I think any goals in OT should be reviewable

[@SightedSphinx]

Wait, why don't we want Refs to review plays they didn't see? Kinda defeats the purpose of a review right?

[@schuy7RA]

Zero reason for it to be non-reviewable

[@Nickleblanc41]

schuy7 if it the hand pass goes straight in the net without touching anyone it would be reviewable

[@flames_fan_328]

I disagree. You can easily be mad at both the Eakin play and this one. You just can’t blame the refs, but you ABSOLUTELY can blame the NHL and it’s garbage rulebook.

[@Ohhelmno]

Exactly, especially if you're just upset they got the calls wrong. I didnt care whether the refs saw it or not, it was kinda egregious that they just made up a call, but the NHL has no ability to ensure they got it right. Goals in the last few minutes or overtime should be automatically reviewable and Im honestly not sure why a handpass wouldn't be a reviewable play aside from semantics. The NHL will probably change the rule in the offseason, but hopefully we don't have an illegitimate champion at that point.

[@sethmarton4062]

Absolutely horrendous non-call. Those refs are blind. Even at full speed it was incredibly obvious. The NHL is a joke.

[@darreollmooney6881]

Seth Marton...the entire 2018-19 season and playoffs the NHL and its useless officiating has become ridiculously unbearable. It almost sucks to listen to games anymore. 4 men in stripes at least 4 eyes should have been on that puck.....wtf...idk

[@СарМемовеЛукасЧадимер]

From the T.V. it is very obvious, but on the ice, the referee's view can get blocked by the goalie, players, and net. The rule that some goals cannot be reviewed is ridiculous.

[@sethmarton4062]

Lukas Faulder no I don't think so. I was able to see it at first as well as the players were. If you watch the replay real time its obvious without replay. He completely swings his arm, it's not like he just nudged it.

[@mendelsonja]

@@sethmarton4062 true, but he also took a swat at it with his stick after that. If his stick gets it next (or it hits a blues player which it was close to), the hand pass wouldn't be called. They couldn't easily see in real time with 4 players in their path if one of those happened. Awful outcome, definitely should be reviewable, but not an obvious thing for the officials to see.

[@СарМемовеЛукасЧадимер]

@@sethmarton4062 I don't know, the players were all next to the puck, so they can see what happened a bit easier than the refs. Either way I don't think that we should call the refs horrible when the NHL could easily make these calls better by allowing reviews.

[@EvilX24]

I swear if the sharks end up winning the whole thing, It'd be one of the cheesiest run of all time to a cup lol

[@canuckz]

My team didn't even make the playoffs, but the officiating this post season is unbelievable. There's so much money tossed around the league, youd' think they'd hire a couple people to make a fair rulebook. I get why some things are not reviewable (to prevent long breaks), but if a rule is broken and it is within the timeframe of the 2nd assist, it should be looked at

[@10.11.9]

My Stanley Cup Final was TB over SJ, with STL being eliminated by this round. But I've had my fill of SJ "catching breaks" in this tournament - I'll be pulling hard for the Blues in Game Four, and if they lose, I'll don the spoked 'B' for a week or two.

[@hardeepdhillon859]

Selanne93 did the Sharks catch a break when the delay of game penalty wasn’t called? Or when Meier was tripped right before the OT goal? Or the head hit on Braun? Or the Slash on Haley’s wrist? None of those seemed like breaks for the Sharks. They looked like breaks for the Blues, because they were. But hey, just forget those right?

[@connorpowell32]

@@hardeepdhillon859 selective memory for sure - refs weren't good all-night but one play is all that will be talked about

[@smithryansmith]

@@hardeepdhillon859 you can name a list of misses on both sides. None of them will sap that guilty feeling you have in the pit of your stomach. you won't enjoy any victory because none of those matter when the OT GAME-DECIDING GOAL was a HAND pass.

[@JosephHSenpaiThe9th]

Goal shouldn’t have counted but still refs were horrible through out this whole game for both sides -Sharks Fan

[@jasonsteigerwald2321]

Joseph H Senpai the 9th 100% agree with you. Missed plays against the blues and a missed call on game winning goal. -blues fan

[@ironfossil9963]

Now this is a thread I am on board with. May one of us win the cup.

[@kevinmartin2961]

Yes and one of those missed calls directly ended the game. The others didn't

[@suzukininja24]

I also agree. Hand pass. But no one outside of THG seems to have mentioned the hit to the head on Braun. Plus the obvious delay of game, which could have changed the whole flow of the 2nd period. NHL has a lot of stuff to fix with rules this summer -Sharks Fan

[@mattmlo12]

yea can't compare An overtime winner to a missed crosscheck or trip... Complete bullshit

[@LiliaSahanova]

I think, while Sharks can be happy that refs gave them that one, it will fire up the Blues. I really hope they come back to win the rest of it.

[@fcyggcghhfhchcychhxhchqdbd3324]

Tbh I hope we lose next game so we can clear this up and equalize.

[@haydenjansen2224]

@@fcyggcghhfhchcychhxhchqdbd3324 Wouldnt make a difference. No matter what happens even if we do get a cup this year its always gonna be "because of the refs" sucks but its just the way it is

[@DEU9002]

They did

[@loosecannon7957]

I'm a Sharks fan and all I'll say is to not blame the Sharks, blame the refs... We don't like winning this way either btw

[@Patriot2111fan]

Loose Cannon an eye for an eye you blatantly ignore a delay of game call and ignore a hand pass, balance as all things should be

[@darreollmooney6881]

Loose Cannon...Meier could have admitted it was a hand pass goal...it's on him.

[@smithryansmith]

It sure happens a lot to you, though.

[@bearfcker5]

Reach one of these things is not like the other *music playing*

[@fujikokun]

Tbh I feel sorry for Sharks fans at this point. Y’all are NOT gonna feel good if the Sharks win the Cup this year.

[@markanthony5678]

The Hockey Guy: so, I don’t know where to start. Me: Here we go again 😂👍

[@AnHourOfWolves]

I think what we really told the refs was "call it correctly", I'm not sure we said 'don't call it unless you see it.'

[@dominickrinaldi6727]

Oh no, the outrage was verbatum, and im qouting just the few hundred or so people i saw say/write "if you didnt see it you shouldnt call it" the intention may have been call it correctly but that wasnt the message.

[@AnHourOfWolves]

@@dominickrinaldi6727 Yeah, I agree with you completely. I feel for those refs.

[@lou1502]

But he gets a assist on a hand pass. The rule should be last 3 players to touch the puck can be reviewed that results in a goal..

[@williamgray7268]

lou I was wondering that as well. If the last player to touch the puck passed it illegally, then how can they give him an assist? It’s like they either have to acknowledge that it was passed illegally or act like I never touched it at all

[@lou1502]

Refs been bad his year in the playoffs, calling what they don't see, and what they do see giving minors for it. How many years back do you have to go for a game that had a 1 game suspension on a minor penalty.

[@q2.076]

There definitely will be some rule changes this off-season or at least should be. One thing I want to see is the change of what's challengeable. I think you should be allowed to challenge any type of "controversial call" and instead of levying a timeout if you lose the challenge it's a delay of game penalty. This can be and not limited to: a player embellishing a penalty, shooting the puck over the glass, kicking the puck into the net, hand passes resulting in goals, the puck hitting the screen bouncing back in and then a goal occuring, players scoring in the crease (I'll explain later), scoring a goal immediately after a quick whistle blows but the whistle had no affect on the play (2017 Cup Final). There should be an automatic review for "extreme penalties" to determine if the player should get ejected and/or if it's a major (just like targeting in football and flagrants in basketball). Offsides doesn't need to be challenged, they're judgement calls like icings. There should be a crease violation like in international hockey. If there's a rebound and players start digging and piling up in the paint then play is called dead and there's a faceoff at center ice. If contact occurs with the goalie while the player is standing outside of the crease then it's allowed. Goalie interference is a penalty and it occurs with dangerous contact to the goalie not nicking the goalie. Just use the IIHF crease violation rule and we will not have this problem. Either take the cross-checking penalty out of the game or call every single one you see including the taps by defensemen on forwards near the front of the net, not just the ones that send the player into the boards. Will these reviews and challenges slow down the game? No, 30 second time limit if you can't make up your mind within 30 seconds the call on the ice stands. Also, implement the syntax rule like in football: the ref has the option to say the call stands, confirmed, or reversed. Stands means the evidence wasn't sufficient, Confirmed and Reversed means it was sufficient enough to determine an absolute conclusion. This gives everyone a sense of what's going on in the refs head. It's just food for thought

[@melasvarco4791]

He explains it perfectly. Not hard to understand. yes, it's unfortunate and needs to be changed but as of right now, refs can't call it.

[@darreollmooney6881]

Ocram Val...the point is they should have been watching the play AND THE PUCK and they would have called the hand pass...wtf?

[@WinRing86]

WHY is it not reviewable? All goals should be reviewable.

[@gocanuckurself1]

Exactly! The NHL rules make ZERO sense.

[@nabokovfan87]

Because the goal isn't the question, the goal is legitimate. What isn't reviewable is what happened prior to the goal.

[@The__Lyric]

nabokovfan87 Then why is offsides reviewable...?

[@WinRing86]

nabokovfan87 Play in the zone leading up to the goal should be reviewable. Of course they have to make some hard limit, but it would be much better than no review possible at all

[@samuelfrick3475]

My counter question is why is the NHL ruling so complicated?

[@psychodadjesse]

Was it a hand pass? Yes. Should it be reviewed? Yes but it can’t be.

[@JS-311]

And it should be reviewable

[@psychodadjesse]

j o e l m s h a n e 4 but it can’t be The refs never saw it

[@JS-311]

Psycho dad jesse yeah I know but what I’m saying is that it (the rule) should be changed

[@psychodadjesse]

j o e l m s h a n e 4 I understand that but that would mean that they would have had to suspend eikan for that hit to pavs

[@JS-311]

Psycho dad jesse no. In the 2018-2019 rulebook it states that a double minor shall be given to any player who unintentionally causes injury with a cross check, which is exactly what Eakin did. It does not mean suspension

[@herbertwidmer473]

The NHL refs are a joke. Every major European league has BETTER refs. You should not only import players you should import refs as well. The best league deserves the bestrefs.

[@doubledownace4339]

Hand pass but fair. Voicemail is full, too many missed calls.

[@isaacmartinez7557]

I love that commercial lol Pasta funny as fuck. My dad and I say that for everything now.

[@cjbautista-mendoza5917]

Hey Shannon, good point about other fans outraged just because it’s the sharks are on the receiving end of bad officiating. Most people fail to notice the tripping on bouwmeester prior to the hand pass and therein lies the reason. What others fans also don’t realize is that sharks fan have experienced these post season bad calls and missed calls at least since 05 when we started consistently making the playoffs. And year after year there was no universal outrage, no call to modify the rules. We were just told that our team were chokers and that’s just how the game goes and now I understand that good teams never let it come down to a controversial call, they produce and make bad calls a non factor. Sometimes you catch the breaks and for the sharks it took most of their franchise history

[@buffalomafia7162]

Poor St Louis..

[@TheeRustBucket]

It had to end in controversy, it's so fitting. Gritty is in with the hockey Gods and we're in chaos. P.s. Shannon, I'm so sad. I said Montreal barely missing was the worst possible scenario, but my least 2 favorite teams being the likely finalists?! I underestimated worst possible scenario. This went horribly. This is my nightmare forming. Now if St. Louis wins I'm happy, Carolina I'm whatever with, SJ I don't like at all, and Boston is awful, worst case scenario, nightmare inducing, disaster level awful Props for resisting the Dunn is done. Delay of game is the one free pass refs get usually and I've seen clear delay of games this playoffs not called. This possibly was a mistake but others seemed ignored. Why not take the freebie?!

[@seanb6691]

Forgot to mention that the player that shot the puck over the glass was the same that scored the next two goals: David Perron

[@papaskazoo5860]

Sean Cena he absolutely should have been in the box for that first goal and the game shouldn’t have even gone into OT.

[@smithryansmith]

@@papaskazoo5860 Nice that you can predict what would have happened midway through the game. Why even bother playing? We have your hypothetical scenarios to decide the game. Ass.

[@michaelkirkpatrick7483]

I was so pissed at the Sharks for blowing a 3-1 lead, that I stopped watching and left. Imagine my surprise later on. Schwartz missing the empty net turned out to be huge. No way that o/t goal should have counted. Totally nuts. I'm a sharks fan, but blues got totally shafted. We'll never know who really would have won. Sharks dodged another bullet (remember vegas game 7?) maybe they're a team of destiny this year, who knows...blues are a character team, they'll be back hard for game 4

[@dbetzel1]

As a Blues fan, all we can do is beat the snot out of them in Game 4.

[@zachwe5241]

I’m speechless and very upset about this, highway robbery that was. I am very concerned what will happen if the Sharks end up winning the cup. Personally I don’t think it’s rigged just bad calls. But if San Jose wins, fans will be calling for a witch hunt. I feel bad for the sharks because they have had some great plays and definitely worked hard to make it here. But at the end of the day, no matter what happens, this team is only here because of the refs.

[@isaiahwince4261]

I’ll admit it. That is the first call/non call that I think San Jose has gained from. That was a very unfortunate break for the Blues.

[@Tiemenator5000]

Isaiah Wince ROUND 1 GAME 7 😂 shut up now

[@ry4nx]

tf u talkin about lol..not even a fan of either team i just wanted to point out how bias you still sound

[@brendanmoore9985]

Jerome t Green sharks deserved to win that game. Shut up now😂

[@mikel957]

Jerome t Green I’d argue that the phantom call on couture in game 2 is the only reason we even had a game 7 in the first place

[@isaiahwince4261]

Jerome t Green What are you even talking about, if you watch closely you can see Eakin and Statsny teaming up to attack Pavelski.

[@dard4642]

Timo didn't bat it to Karlsson. He batted the puck down, THEN it was kicked by Bouwmeester, THEN controlled and passed by Nyquist to EK65, THEN buried past Binnington. Only Binnington protested the goal. He was the ONLY one on the ice who saw a hand pass in real time. The other Blues players -- even the ones who were battling directly for the puck -- hung their heads and skated away. They hopped on the protest AFTER they saw the replay on the jumbotron.

[@Scabaffer]

im losing my love for hockey with these playoffs, the first round was awesome with some iffy calls, but as we have gone on the refs are not calling anything and its frustrating. Im a ducks fan and I dont have any say in this but it just sucks. Of course im going to come back, but this just sucks.

[@SombraPiloto]

The Eakin call might’ve been bad but Vegas could’ve survived had they not given up 3 goals. St. Louis had no recourse with this bad call. I’d prefer the Blues win the West but if they don’t I’m all in behind San Jose in hopes that they hand Boston their asses.

[@keepingitreel...8037]

Hey Franky boy - It was actually 4 goals and, with you obviously clueless about hockey, there is no team left that can beat the Bruins! Let alone, "hand Boston their asses." Lol The only things the winner of the West will determine, is where the Bruins will play their away games, and who's team will watch the Boston Bruins hoist another Cup! Bruins are too deep. They don't rely on 1 scorer like Logan Couture or a couple of scorers like the Blues. Although Bergeron has 8 goals, Marchand and Pastrnak have 7 each, and Coyle has 6, the Bruins have 19 different goal scorers in these playoffs. Boston's defense is very good. The Power play is the best in the playoffs. The PK is good, too. And, oh yeah, there's Tuukka Rask! He just happens to lead all playoff goaltenders in every single category! In fact, he currently is even ahead of Tim Thomas's 2011, Con Smyth winning season. Bruins have a perfect mix of veteran talent and youthful speed and skill, and they have a lot of playoff experience and success. Only 2 NHL teams have been to the Stanley Cup finals 3 times in this decade. Blackhawks and Bruins. The last time St Louis was in a Cup final, Bobby Orr scored that famous OT goal to, not only win the game, and not only win the series and the Stanley Cup, but also to complete the 4 game sweep! (May 10th, 1970)

[@dominikszkoda8566]

Just Imagine a Stanley Cup Finals of Boston and San Jose

[@manofspoons5334]

I would literally start tearing up

[@darreollmooney6881]

Bleach Will Do...and if the Sharks end up playing Boston...I hope Marchand is on their asses every time he's on the ice. I'm a Ducks fan.

[@Nickleblanc41]

Bleach Will do I’ve been imagining that final since August!

[@Roger-le1bv]

Go B's at that point, I guess. I normally don't have anything against the Sharks, but this playoff year is making me really dislike them.

[@jarink1]

Just imagine a blown call like this deciding the Cup winner. And people in 1999 thought Brett Hull's skate in the crease was controversial...

[@MarcelBal15]

Controversy in the playoffs is good for the growth of this channel, but bad for teams that play San Jose

[@isaacmartinez7557]

C'mon don't single out SJ. It's happened all over the league this postseason. Including against the sharks a time or 2

[@thomash5239]

Good take on it Shannon. The refs did what they were supposed to do, if they learned from the Vegas major penalty. However it is silly that they all missed the hand pass in the first place. I get that it happened fast though, I didn't realize it was a hand pass either until the replay. I was confident that the Sharks were gonna ride the tying goal momentum to an OT victory anyway, I would have preferred to win in a less controversial manner.

[@smithryansmith]

From the AP The call was so egregious that multiple sports books in Las Vegas offered refunds, called a “Good Karma Payout,” to betters who took the Blues on Wednesday. “The combination of a clear hand pass and an unreviewable play made this a pretty easy decision,” PointsBet CEO Johnny Aitken said in a statement. “The Sharks have been the beneficiary of a few questionable calls throughout the playoffs, which probably only further incensed Blues backers.”

[@Simon-tc1mc]

Your subs are growing so fast. You're going to pass Dangle soon

[@glassbottle15]

Simon deservedly so! I’m a new fan to hockey, I’ve watched a couple of dangles vids and learnt nothing. With Shannon, I’ve watched almost every single game review video since near the end of regular season because I learn so much.

[@SleepBomber]

Who is Dangle?

[@danieldosso2455]

Shannon's great at being fairly unbiased towards almost every team in the league (except Anahiem) that's why I love watching him.

[@mjc-ym9xt]

Sleep Bomber Steve dangle, he’s got 102k subscribers

[@tomchamberlain4329]

One thing I liked toward the end of these playoffs is that there are fewer games for Shannon to cover, so he has time to go into a more detailed analysis that doesn't just involve who scored. Also fewer games to watch means he can just focus on watching the details of that game rather than just checking the stats. Shannon needs to be able to replay game footage so we can learn more!

[@cplmackinnon]

As a Sharks fan, I feel kind bad for the Blues, that was a clear missed call, but I'm sorry, I'll take that win. The Blues wanted it more and overall not a good performance by the Sharks. Also, thanks Jones.

[@wilnerolivier7971]

The same Jones who has been shit all season!! The same Jones who got exposed when the Blues keep shooting high on him.

[@cplmackinnon]

@@wilnerolivier7971 multiple key saves in the third that leads to a win

[@angeloayala2136]

I hate how good games like these are ruined by a controversial call, the refs are to blame here, but i expect the blues to hit the ground running in game 4 for sure

[@smithryansmith]

Erik Karlsson "We are not playing handball, we are playing hockey." Then call it what it was, a hand pass, you wanker.

[@gregh2948]

"I don't know where to start". The only possible way to start a recap video after an ending like that....

[@yumpinyiminy963]

God the Playoff refs have really sucked this year. The missed open goal last night by Carolina 30 seconds in would have been a nightmare as well since 1 ref told Tuuka it was Chara that tripped him and the other ref said he would have waved it off. What a cluster fart!

[@josephhale9198]

Playoff refs have always sucked.

[@Jay-fl5yr]

As for the delay of game no-call, there’s a difference between “it’s possible...” and “that was a blatant handpass that even NBC admits shouldn’t count”.

[@sjsharks76]

They were both blatant no calls

[@Occy30]

Love watching this older content!

[@MitchAkaDaBitch]

The Blues outplayed San Jose and got absolutely FLEECED by the San Jose refs. Should be reviewable, this is a damn shame

[@lgrw9883]

To be fair they missed a blatant delay of game should have been power play for San Jose, and even though that was probably a hand pass still bad defensive execution for stl leaving 2 guys open in front of the net. I would be upset if I were blues fan but let’s not act like the blues played a sound defensive game lol all the goals except for karlsson first goal was pee wee defense. Watch couture tying goal no blue is even near the net he is open for easy tip in and pavelski is wide open too for great chance but binnington made one save couldn’t get the second that’s why blues lost if they defend better in the final minute there is no ot for sharks to even win.

[@sauliusvekteris526]

Dont blame Sharks here guys. Blame referees. Im disgusted that this was so called "goal". Its play off so it should be reviewed as many times as it needs.

[@IndustryLeech]

I don't blame the Sharks, but it's impossible to pull for them unless you're a homer Sharks fan at this point. They don't deserve to be in the WCF.

[@its_my_my]

As a die-hard Sharks fan, I’m so disheartened by the reffing. Obviously, I want the win. Every team wants the win. But I’ve watched Pavelski, Jumbo, Couture, and Vlasic be the core of this incredible team for over ten years. That’s why you see Sharks fans so adamantly defend this team. They are our family. It sucks to have everyone say every win we’ve gotten is because of the refs, because it’s simply not true. It’s an evenly matched series, and it will be a hard fought run. Blues are talented. Yes, the refs suck. For every game, in every part of the season. That’s part of the game, and we have to deal. Have the Sharks got the calls in some game? Yep. But you can’t deny they are a good team and deserve to be here (again). Good game, Blues-see you (and the refs) in the next one.

[@Aforg209]

Well...actually, no the Sharks don't deserve to be there at all. Vegas should have played Colorado, not SJ.

[@brucevrodoor4781]

I knew I could count on Shannon to give an actual explanation with all the context. Unfortunate we’re here but great video.

[@chrisolson2846]

Sharks fan here, I'm tired of the choking, of the heartbreaking losses. A win is a win. I don't feel guilty watsoever about the overtime goal. Tough F-ing luck St. Louis. Hey Blues, if you're surprised by how the refs call the playoffs, maybe you should be in the playoffs more often.

[@silentnote9858]

Bruh the Blues have been in the playoffs more than the sharks

[@FishBoyBlue]

Great vid. Love how level headed you have been this entire playoffs. You still look fantastic in teal! Hope to see lots more!

[@FanvsantGaming]

Heres my opinion: Yes, it was a hand pass. No, the refs did not hand the sharks the game. There were bad calls against the sharks, too. No Delay of Game penalty, no hit to the head on Braun. It's unfortunate that it happened, yes. It's not the refs fault. Blame the league. Also Sorenson wasnt healthy scratched, he was injured.

[@fcyggcghhfhchcychhxhchqdbd3324]

I don’t think those penalty’s that weren’t called equalize a goal that should’ve been waved off, but it’s your opinion.

[@AceMatthew25414]

I hate the idea of having every goal reviewed we already have enough reviews...