Controversies, Sensationalism and YouTube - How the News makes money - Adeel Afzal

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Part 2 out Monday. Sorry about cutting it in parts. Editor isn’t feeling well. Pooray ka wait karta toh aaj phir kuch bhi nahee jata 🙈

[@tapasvibhardwaj]

Koi dikkat nahi h....more power to you❤

[@sherryyar5511]

in future available on editing part but always pleasure to listen you both together

[@paulhall1612]

​@@tapasvibhardwajwhat a gullible Pakistani shill

[@smwk8270]

Danishwar zaroor baniye, media or arts par lecture bhi dain or baqi logon or media par tanqeed bhi karain, sath mein aurat march ko promote bhi karain...bas itna bata dain k kamli jaisi vulgur movie mein kaam Karna Chahiye? Kamli jaisi vulgur movie ko promote Karna Chahiye? Or kamli jaisi vulgur movies Ka Pakistan ke youth ko faida hoga ya nuqsan?

[@Ainasyeda07]

Karachi Karachi hai❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@alevelbio6529]

One thing I have realised is that Shehzad’s comic timing makes this podcast so good. One liner after one liner absolute gold

[@ThePakistanExperience]

🙌🙌🙌

[@sikandarkhan3708]

I can listen to these two casually discussing everything in the world for hours 😄

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@MansourAlameri-p8e]

You need therapy my friend.

[@MuhammadAnas-jj8ik]

I am from KPK, and I had been eagerly awaiting your post about the martyred Gilaman Wazir. Now that I’ve seen it, I must say it’s wonderful to see you covering all of Pakistan. Thank you for highlighting such important stories.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@ThePakistanExperience]

We put it up on our story yesterday also

[@Mohdaguj]

​@@ThePakistanExperience Please don't because he was racist and used racist slurs against panjabis.no hate to ptm but some of their leaders are ultra racist towards panjabis

[@KhanKhan-te4pb]

​@@Mohdagujdosto ki larhai mai ek dost dosre ko qatal kia aur galiya dusre pakistani qomo ko wha ma sadqe 😂

[@MuhammadAnas-jj8ik]

​@Mohdaguj PTM leaders criticize Punjabis not due to their skin color, but because most of the Punjabis do not support the PTM's cause.

[@abz789100]

I’m not of Pakistani background but I truly enjoy your content. Through your content there is great opportunity to learn about your region (the good, bad, and ugly). I hope you continue to make this content because the reach is incredible, most importantly may it broaden our collective mindset.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@abdulraufkhawaja5917]

Glad to see Adeel Afzal on Pakistan experience back after long time.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@pandra6944]

Ghiyas, by any chance are a PPP supporter?. The wadera-ism in Sindh and oppression of the poor powerless people there is not a false propaganda.

[@Ainasyeda07]

ہماری فوج 75 سال سے وڈیرہ بنی ہوئی ہے اس پر بات کرنے کا تپڑ ہے نہیں بس سندھ کی گردن پتلی ہے دبا دو

[@KRATOS_9999]

Screw you. Youthia

[@seeker911]

See his interview with Bilawal Bhutto. He was blushing literally like Laila in front of Majnu.

[@munakhan2469]

Adeel is absolutely right about the salary structure and mode of payment, especially at TV stations. And all owners of such media owners are wealthy families.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@asharlambray6377]

Lannat on them

[@blumenbauer7820]

اللہ تعالی آپ سب لوگوں کو اپنی حفظ و امان میں رکھے آمین

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@itachiuchiha4267]

Don't you ever, ever Stop MAKING THESE VIDEOS.. im afraid for your well being mannn Pakistan really needs people like you. Im afraid voices like these are always silenced man please take good care of yourself! You're such a bold man dealing with all these people! You're true CHAMP!! 🥺❤️❤️

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@gladiator1186]

আমি অবাক হয়ে যাই, এত বুদ্ধিমান তরুণ থাকতে পাকিস্তানের এমন অবস্থা কেন হয়? এদের কেন দেশের আগে আসতে দেওয়া হয় না। অসাধারণ একটা পডকাস্ট। অভিনন্দন রইল।

[@amitk2284]

Your state name dear

[@Singh.Balwinder-s7s]

​@@amitk2284Bangladeshi gladiator 😂😂

[@talhakhaliq5195]

Shahzad you are becoming my daily soap 😂😂😂

[@ThePakistanExperience]

🤣

[@MHussain-es2qd]

Agreed with twist of truth

[@rabiakalsoom1933]

Hahahahah that is so true.

[@iramnabj2928]

Very nice podcast. Many unknown bold facts on dark journalism, TV shows, and media manipulation in Pakistan came out of this podcast .May Allah protect them. Aameen ❤

[@IrfanAli-hi6ms]

Great debate ❤ ma sha Allah ❤

[@ummeali-dy7mt]

million likes regarding speaking on us (sindhi) yes we still label by them that our culture is reflection of Hindus and we own it its our Indus civilization.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@bilalarifbassi]

Faris shafi have been spoken 11 years ago that ؛ہمارے لوگوں کو پسند ہیں قبریں، پسند ہیں خبریں؛ #farisshafi

[@ThePakistanExperience]

That man is a genius

[@shibrahrafaqat]

These are the conversations we need to have all across Pakistan 👏🏽

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@sherryyar5511]

it been always a pleasure to hear Adeel Afzal hope people get positive out of podcast .

[@footballworld2023]

As a Sindhi I think the best thing to prove people wrong that Sindhis are as smart as any other Pakistani is by forgo the 60% quota system which was introduced by Bhutto. This is the only province or ethnicity that get this which makes us looks like backward and illiterate.

[@Salem_morio]

The quota system was introduced by liaquat ali khan to favour Muhajirs. Bhutto just reserved it. It'll end when the muhajirs leave our land.

[@ahsanjamil4131]

Bravo shahzad! Even though sometimes I don’t like things you say, i still listen to you because just like am entitled to my opinions you are to yours. I don’t listen to many podcasts but whenever adeel afzal is there i make sure to listen to what he has to say. The approach you both put out is….. well its great

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@wasilkhan2514]

Adeel Afzal aur muzammil Shah ki podcast pe fast forward Karne Ka Dil hi nahin krta, very interesting.

[@kainat8394]

I want Faisal Warraich on your show

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Whenever he’s in town

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Bhai hay apna

[@shumailasarwar]

بات کو اپنے مفاد میں گھمانے کا فن تو ہمارے معاشرے میں ویسے بھی عام ہے۔ سچ کو گھمایا پھرایا جاتا ہے۔ اور حقیقت کہیں پڑی گھٹتی سسکتی رہ جاتی ہے ۔ ہر چالاک اور بے انصاف ،بے ضمیر ایساہی کرتا ہے۔

[@umeshnaidu]

CMH gives quality healthcare...run by army...no issues: but where army screwd Pakistan from 1950s is their take over of civil governance directly or indirectly....that has taken the power away from civilians ..and ruined Pakistan

[@KRATOS_9999]

You guys are saying what my heart says.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@shaahu72]

so adeek afzal was the suprise guest loved him and really appreciate this podcast

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@user-mu9gu2zu9r]

Pleased to see Adil bhai on your guest seat after such a long time..

[@محمداصغر-ث1ب]

Bring Wassay Habib & Iffi Raja in next podcast. Wasay's cricketing knowledge & Iffi Bhai Rants >>>

[@relaxingvideos7799]

Otna shoar bardahst ni huta yar

[@zahidiqbal439]

Zabardast shehzad, guest is also very rational

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@UkAla-dz9dz]

Yaar thank Allah for people like you in Pakistan. Jub bohut ganda depression hota hai and all seems lost, watching a podcast by you gives me some hope kay among all these kanjars, ik ya dou tou hai jo abhi zameer pura baichkay nai bethgai hai.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@uzairali3847]

11:42 "NIDO" Hilarious!😂😂

[@UshbaUrooj]

Liking it without even listening the whole, because I know it will be amazing.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@fatimaamin1244]

A worth watching podcast 👏👏 so much to realize what's happening in your country❤

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@fahadiftikhar9]

tou yee thy special guest 😋♥️

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Sab say special ❤️

[@sudeepkalkandha1785]

when are you calling Syed Muzammil Shah ​@@ThePakistanExperience

[@sudeepkalkandha1785]

​@@ThePakistanExperiencein my opinion he is one of best real scholars of south asia

[@HafizMamooon]

It's now that I have come to fathom business model of these news mafias. Wesy Shahzad ki video ka pop up aye to irresistible hota hai click na krna... Nd I am glad yh mny poori video sun li aj... Aur hn Shahzad Bhai, Monday ko next part ka intzar rhyga!

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@iftunasrin]

Im so into this as if im in this room with you guys This man is one of your top guests Learning as always Thank you so much for this ❤

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@SimranDhillon186]

Oyye aa gya Been waiting for it after your post on instagram 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@close_this_window]

I liked that you fixed the perception of PTI's "performance" in KPK, I didn't see it like that either.

[@msjaffri7099]

Salam shehzad bhai As you both mentioned that pakistan is a nation of nations thats why there is a lack of harmony among different ethnicities.India has the same demographics and yet the nationalism or patriotism they posses for their motherland is very evident. What went wrong in our history that doesn't allow us to exist in the same way as India?

[@AmeerHamza-x5y]

I nearly guessed the guest when you mentioned yesterday that guest is one of your regulars😅😂

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Easy guess tha 🤣

[@shoaibqureshi2353]

​@@ThePakistanExperience sir portal khol ke Sahil Nadim ko alien dikha do

[@AryanAdarsh-bt3gq]

ADEEK AFZAL GOOD INTECUATIAL MAN ..... APPRECIATED 😂😂😂😂

[@jhanzaib9977]

Better than any Netflix series very interesting

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@AliRaza-lg7sv]

I have always voted for pti and will probably vote for them again. That said I am a big fan of TPE because of the sensible discussions you have. I don't see pti as a great political party but I see them as slightly better than other flawed options.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@alisaifee630]

Your thumbnail gave me nightmares! Pakistan's Gandalf Orya, Hairy Portals, and the lord of misogyny Qaleel. Khair Adeel bhai nay bacha liya.. Good job boys 🙌🏽

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@hassancheema2268]

yeah and sindhi is a synonym for rich across the border, wonder what kind of people these karachi people were...

[@jawad_alv]

Two intellectuals in one frame ❣

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@MuhammadUsman054]

Waiting for a Podcast with Hamid Mir 👐

[@spawnisalive]

1:31:04 I am living in Waterloo, Canada and my first instinct when I visit and desi store in Mississauga or Milton is to speak in Urdu even though 60% of the time I receive response in English as long the business understand me I keep responding in Urdu. I didn't understand this love for language living 32 years in Karachi and had the same mindset for Sindhi even though I had lived 8 years in Tando Muhammad Khan, our family never tried to learn Sindhi or spoke Sindhi, which I believe was a mistake. We lived in a bubble and should have embraced the culture and tried to find common ground.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@anuppareek2050]

Good to see you back on the driving seat buddy. Poora dekhega mai

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@yaqootmir6761]

CMH is not good due to resources it’s MANAGED properly.provincial health care institutions are simply managed improperly and by the way Lahore has some very good hospitals besides CMH.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Military propaganda. Military men aren’t better managers, they take more resources

[@ahsenraza7447]

Shehzad you didn't explored him more , he was taking us deeply and you are twisting towards an other side only your platform is providing some actual so keep learning and keep serving. I Must Must Say you explored Adeel only 10% during the session

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@guides88]

Love you shehzad bhai.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@guides88]

@@ThePakistanExperience I'm from KASHMIR, INDIA Your podcasts are quite informative. Love you Bhai.

[@Maria-tm8jg]

Can the host please stop interrupting the guest with irrelevant comments and jokes jeez louise

[@gauravdey4163]

Are you a Pakistani

[@Bilawal-Bhutto]

Good one ❤👍

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@UzmaMushtaque]

@shehzad bhai, it is always so interesting whener adeel bhai is on the podcast. There never was media awareness and no one has ever thought to dispense it to the masses. This shouldbe on national tv, as media plays an important role in today's world. Keep up the good work and make it into a segment with adeel bhai so that we get insights about such topics. 🌟

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@fezxan]

Shahzad taking subliminal shots at TBT is insane ifykyk 😂😂

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@HomeGardening212]

Another blasting PodCast ! Shahzad I am a big fan of yours ! your style is versatile ! keep it up brother ! love u ❤❤❤

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@queenPAK]

1.30.02 At the time of naturalization the American admin.ask all new citizens that please use your own native languages in your homes so that your children can be the perfect bilinguals . Unlike our Punjabi/ muhajir mentality to speak only urdu and not the regional languages.

[@AsBi1]

very interesting talk but truth.

[@English_5Days]

Manzoor Ahmad Pashteen On Your Podcasts ❤

[@BilalQazi-ds6ot]

1:20:00 Sindhis have a history of subservience and Ghulami of the Wadera. Atleast for the past 300 years this is has been very common for them. Subservience, loot mar, corruption.

[@BilalQazi-ds6ot]

Sindhis don't leave the country. Adeel bhai, Sindhis have big advantages in Karachi for being Sindhi. Ye nh chor k jayengay.

[@BilalQazi-ds6ot]

Also not talking about the poor Sindhi common man. They are ghulam by force and on some level by choice

[@BilalQazi-ds6ot]

Karachi shehr mai maujood 90 feesad police wale Sindhi hyn. Dekhlo Kia haal hai is shehar Ka. Jo log ada saeen Baba saeen sutho chutti karte wo log halkey main nikaljate. Baqi Quom walon ko ye sindhi tulle tang karte haun

[@BilalQazi-ds6ot]

Indus valley waley to kahin se nh Hain ye log Yaar 😂😂😂

[@queenPAK]

​@BilalQazi-ds6ot Karachi is Sindh.

[@abulhassan7235]

One of the best podcast with Adeel Afzal, very mesmerizing and inspiring to watch, be blessed

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@MuhammadRizwan-ps6et]

For the first time I listen him and yes he has some useful and critical thoughts . Otherwise I always fell like " aik drama kya kr liya ab jagah jagah beth kr philosophy jhaar rha hy" ❤

[@KhanHayal713]

lol he was famous way before he started acting

[@amnasamna]

I haven't watched the whole show, just paused here to clarify something regarding May 9th. Khadija Shah is granddaughter of Asif Junjua not Aslam baig ( correct it). About May 9th: I don't care about what kind of logical fallacies PTI supporters come up to defend it. They were all pti supporters, few of them, like in any other angry protest, went inside, burnt the building and did other damages as well( Other parties have done worst when it comes to " tor phor" for whatever reason, we agree or disagree with. By all means, it's understandable because they have been led to hate army after VONC. Planned or not, the logical and organic reaction was going to be against army. By the way, protesting outside any military establishment, installment is constitutionally allowed. As we all saw, those who burnt stuff were few not the whole support base who was out protesting.

[@thefiregaming951]

yaar shehzaad bhai peena weena bhi shuru kardi ha kya yaa neend main ho xD🙃

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@apnekokya6519]

Sir I totally respect the comedian part of you but yeh har doosri baat k beech aik ajeeb sa joke (especially with Adeel Afzal as you guys make an extremely well connected podcast) sari conversation aur uss direction se jo point aur conclusion built ho raha hota hai uski nisst maar deta hai. Plz consider this 🙏🏻

[@AhmedKamal-yd1mq]

Thanks ❤ waiting for second part 🎉

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Kal ❤️

[@salehaminto6328]

@35:00 the analysis became somewhat reductive in my opinion. The lawyers’ movement and “BAR politics” emerged in 1982/83 against Zia’s Islamization through introducing controversial قانُونِ شہادت، قصاص اور دیت، اور زنا بالجبر میں گواہی۔ A more defiant lawyers’ body was the need of that time and it hugely supported the women’s cause at that time. My two bits is that the problem does not rest with the said political area but always with the thought process of people running that area of politics.

[@muhammadawais7109]

Sindh is perhaps most rich province of Pakistan. According to some estimates it's per capita GDP is even better than Punjab. But when it doesn't reflect in HDI, Infrastructure, Health and Educatio n and someone criticize it, it is not anti- sindh bias. On the other hand I admire good qualities of Sindh. It is still the most pluralistic society of Pakistan. But don't blame it's problems on other people. Which outsider is forcing natives of province to kidnap and forced marry hindu girls? I hope one day sindh would be the most prosperous and (more) plurastic province of Pakistan.

[@GhulamUmar-cb6dq]

السلام علیکم اپ کا تحریک لبیک کے بارے میں کیا پوائنٹ ویو ہے میں تحریک لبیک کو سپورٹ کرتا ہوں 💖💖✌🏼🚩🚩

[@alevelbio6529]

Loving the content on this channel for the past week

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@simple6138]

پنجاب میں عام لوگ سندھیوں کے بارے ایسی کوئی رائے نہیں رکھتے۔

[@sfzakaria89zakaria9]

Now dont let him go to lahore and record at least 7 podcasts. 😂 Love you adeel vai ❤

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@subhandar9062]

Great conversation ❤

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@fahadjawaid3569]

As usual amazing and lots of learning..

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@daniyalliaqat9248]

You don't allow the guest to complete any answer, the host needs to speak less

[@Jahaniyan]

Just talking about PTI and criticising PTI in last parts who are now on the receiving end. Do criticize them but now when they are the victims, atleast criticize the one who are culprits. Typical way of “intellectual” thinking😅 “Sab ke sath zulm hua, Sab ke sath zulm ho raha hai, Sab ke sath Zulm hoga lekin PTI ke sath Maqaafat e Amal ho raha hai”

[@Kamran_Laal]

On our request Adeel afzal landed from zoom to studio.Thanks sir❤

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@mutaherahmed1089]

19:16 channel black money white es tarhan krta h jo advertisement leta h usko 1 crore k bajaey books mn 5 crore dikhaeyga

[@relaxingvideos7799]

Fair rules or fair trades tu capitalism main b ni hia tu kn sa business model un ko lay k chaly ga 😂

[@dadmuhammad8665]

That’s strange he took whole hour by saying there are someone else who control media, politics etc etc and then he say why PTI goes to core commander house and why not block mall road as it happing from last 60years. That’s strange they protest their where it would create more pressure.

[@absurdist9609]

Yaar bhai apne guest ko bolne tou do, sometimes you make too many and irrelevant sarcastic interruptions which break the flow of the conversation. Usually I love your podcasts but this was hard to follow.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Fair

[@absurdist9609]

@@ThePakistanExperience Love the pod a lot in general! ❤ Keep it up, you're doing amazing work. Everyone has a bad day or night once in a while 😊

[@hunybuny6824]

Adeel afzal is really a special guest ❤

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@omermaqsood3981]

I totally agree with you on the point of minority recently I had written to you to raise issue of minorities, recently I got a chance to visit Bhawalpur fort maujh gahr the people are totally in denial they don't admit minority is present in their area and the minority Hindu present called marachay don't get equal opportunities for job and the farmers are quite open about it

[@badarabdulhannan7170]

Shahzad bhai, it was feeling like you're drunk on the episode 😂 I think you were recording at night. Well, loved the episode ❤

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@kainat8394]

We wanted a video with Faisal Warraich

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Whenever we are in the same city

[@businesstycoon7444]

​@@ThePakistanExperiencePlease make it possible 😮

[@mohitsingh-wi7iw]

Love u brother ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@daniyalawan3350]

Can you please try to link or add a popup when you refer to a different podcast/video so we can get more context🙏

[@talhakhaliq5195]

Judiciary wala portion ..... Killing it bro ..... Itni khuli duli batain kon krta hy bhai ...... Adeel bhai hamesha dil sy baat krty hn ..... ❤❤❤

[@talhakhaliq5195]

Yar Shahzad Bhai yh judiciary wala portion elahda sy to upload krna

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@hareemmubashir6046]

Adeeeeel Bhaiii back in the house!!

[@kanzaiqbal1366]

Absolutely digging the idgaf shehzad vibe❤

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@tyrant_hermit]

Sidemen among us, TPE, whiskey and smoke. Life is good.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@umayr2935]

18:15 'gourmet'

[@mahroofhussain8940]

عدیل افضل اور شہباز غیاث کی بصیرت ،ادراک اور بے باکی کو سلام

[@saleemnaqvi2200]

I would like to discuss something that Adeel Afzal said in one of your recent programs. He had said that we should understand that there is no such thing as the 'Pakistani nation' as Pakistan is a country that comprises many 'nationalities'. My submission is that there seems to be a confusion about the definition of the terms 'nation' and 'qaum' 'قوم'۔ in the prevalent narrative of intellectuals in Pakistan. Just like the word 'captain' which has multiple meanings, the term 'nation' also has at least two different meanings Urdu. One meaning is what our intellectuals subscribe to, which is the one that is the traditional meaning of the Urdu, Sindhi, or Punjabi word 'qaum'. Which is a group of people who live in a distinct geographical region, have the same mother tongue, they may belong to different religions or sects but they share the same traditions, culture, literature, music, dances and history and who identify themselves as a distinct entity compared to those who do not share these things with them. But these intellectuals either do not factor in, or deliberately do not mention the fact that the term 'qaum' has another meaning in in Urdu also. That meaning is the same as the meaning of the English term 'nation': all citizens of a state irrespective of the region within the state they belong to, mother tongue, religion, caste, creed etc. They don't need to be born in the state, or even be its traditional inhabitants, they just need to acquire citizenship of that state through legal means. The second meaning of the term 'qaum' is used in 'aqwam e mutahemida', 'اقوام متحدہ' the Urdu translation of 'United Nations'. The 'nations' that are members of 'United Nations' are Afghanistan, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh and not the Pakhtoon nation, Punjabi nation and the Bengali nation. The interesting thing is that in Urdu the term 'qaum' is used for both types of groups, but in modern English native speakers don't use the term 'nation' for a group of people coming from a particular area within a state having shared language, customs and history etc. The term used for such grouping is 'ethnicity'. However, people from India and Pakistan call allegience to such groupings as 'nationalism' or 'sub-nationalism'. This is because of the influence of Urdu/Hindi and mother tongues in which the word qaum is used for such groupings and they translate the word qaum in English as 'nation' or 'sub-nation'. Yes, traditionally the term 'nation' was used for such groupings also, but only in the case of very large single tribes, e.g. the Sioux Nation, but not for a collection comprising multiple tribes having shared language and traditions. Similarly, the term 'nationalism' is also used for feelings and activities in the context of the state, even though we use it in the context of our ethnicities. Thus, in English a 'nation' is confined within the borders of a state, but an ethnicity can transcend state boundaries. If we take a Pakhtoon who holds the Afghan nationality and a Pakhtoon who holds Pakistani nationality, then if we take the traditional meaning of the term 'qaum' used in Pakistan and India, then both belong to the Pakhtoon qaum. On the other hand, if we take the other meaning of 'qaum' i.e., citizens of a particular state, which is equally valid in Urdu, then one Pakhtoon belongs to the 'Afghan qaum' and the other to the 'Pakistani qaum'. It depends on which meaning you take, both are valid; just as a captain could mean the leader of a cricket team, the senior pilot of an ailiner, or a naval officer who is one rank senior to 'commander' and one rank junior to 'commodore'. In the light of this I would say that it is not right to insist that out of the several meanings of 'qaum' or 'nation' only the one that matches our ideology is correct. Therefore, it is OK to call the citizens of Pakistan the 'Pakistani qaum' or 'Pakistani nation' and we can say that Pakistan is a 'multi-ethnic nation', or 'polyglot nation'. I would be interested in knowing your comments on this and please pass on my message to Adeel. I am curious to know your comments about my opinion the acknowledgement and respect are a two way street. The state should 'acknowledge' the various qaums living in its territory AND the qaums should also acknowledge that they are living in a multi qaum country which has its own compulsions and shouldn't resent the state's attempt to evolve its own identity?

[@khan35078]

this crazy guy is back again What does every career have to do with failure? He's always crying that they haven't paid him, he's always crying 😹 who has not gotten along with anything in his life but today it is here 😂😂😂😂😂

[@dilshadgill2488]

Nice conversation

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@arslanahmed7530]

Dear Shehzad hats off for such excellent and brave work, Kindly comment on this in one of your podcasts " how close are we to a civil war?" And is any possibility/fear of this Country disintegrating into multiple independent entities like 1971?

[@ThePakistanExperience]

🙌

[@ThePakistanExperience]

No impending civil war

[@shahwaizbhatti7055]

Adeel you performed good in Standup Girl..

[@ThePakistanExperience]

He wrote it too

[@haseebsultan28]

Plz invite mansoor ali khan for the podcast